Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:24 on Sunday 31 October 2010, Mick did 
opine thusly:

 I dual boot with MSWindows and therefore have set up my /etc/conf.d/clock
 to:
 
 CLOCK=local
 TIMEZONE=Europe/London
 CLOCK_OPTS=
 CLOCK_SYSTOHC=no
 SRM=no
 ARC=no
 
 I noticed this morning that the clock was still showing summer time (I
 rarely boot into MSWindows).
 
 I had to boot into MSWindows to check what happens there and the clock was
 showing the new winter time.  After that the Linux clock was also showing
 the updated winter time.
 
 Does this mean that twice a year when the clock changes I need to boot into
 MSWindows first to allow the time change to take place, or is there a Linux
 side fix for my dual boot set up?

gut feel tells me windows is broken.

All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight savings 
switches at the END of today not at the beginning


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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 October 2010 09:34:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight
 savings switches at the END of today not at the beginning

That's not true in the UK: the switch is done at 02:00 on the Sunday. My 
Gentoo and Ubuntu boxes have switched to GMT correctly this morning, and 
so has the radio-synchronised clock on the kitchen wall.

I think Mick does have a problem in his Gentoo setup.

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Rgds
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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 October 2010 10:05:15 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Sunday 31 October 2010 09:34:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight
  savings switches at the END of today not at the beginning
 
 That's not true in the UK: the switch is done at 02:00 on the Sunday. My
 Gentoo and Ubuntu boxes have switched to GMT correctly this morning, and
 so has the radio-synchronised clock on the kitchen wall.
 
 I think Mick does have a problem in his Gentoo setup.

 :-(

Thanks Peter, do you dual boot with MSWindows?

I've noticed this problem on two different boxen, both of them dual boot with 
MSWindows.  A Gentoo only box of mine switched over to winter time correctly - 
so it must be my dual boot set up that is causing this problem.
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Sunday 31 October 2010 12:32:59, Mick a écrit :
 On Sunday 31 October 2010 10:05:15 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 31 October 2010 09:34:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight
   savings switches at the END of today not at the beginning
  
  That's not true in the UK: the switch is done at 02:00 on the Sunday. My
  Gentoo and Ubuntu boxes have switched to GMT correctly this morning, and
  so has the radio-synchronised clock on the kitchen wall.
  
  I think Mick does have a problem in his Gentoo setup.
  
  :-(
 
 Thanks Peter, do you dual boot with MSWindows?
 
 I've noticed this problem on two different boxen, both of them dual boot
 with MSWindows.  A Gentoo only box of mine switched over to winter time
 correctly - so it must be my dual boot set up that is causing this
 problem.

Same thing in France where changing time is at 03:00 = 02:00 on sunday 
morning !

And I am on dual boot too !

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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 October 2010 11:32:59 Mick wrote:

 I've noticed this problem on two different boxen, both of them dual
 boot with MSWindows.  A Gentoo only box of mine switched over to
 winter time correctly - so it must be my dual boot set up that is
 causing this problem.

I have a dual-booting laptop; I'll try that this afternoon. Otherwise 
Windows isn't given house-room here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Jacob Todd
Why don't you just use openntpd ( or whatever it's called)?


Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Sunday 31 October 2010 17:35:56, Jacob Todd a écrit :
 Why don't you just use openntpd ( or whatever it's called)?

ntp service (such as openntpd or regular ntp itself) doesn't lookup at the 
time printed on the desktop ! They work in utc time, furnishing a stable base 
of time. It's the os' job to convert it in local time (and winter/summer 
time).

For example, a openntpd launched in a chinese computer (and we know certainly 
that chinese computers have really different times than ours !) would have the 
hour of London (because it work in timestamp, which is a way to print utc) !

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Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen

2010-10-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:05 on Sunday 31 October 2010, Peter 
Humphrey did opine thusly:

 On Sunday 31 October 2010 09:34:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  All my calendars (electronic and dead-tree) tell me that daylight
  savings switches at the END of today not at the beginning
 
 That's not true in the UK: the switch is done at 02:00 on the Sunday. My
 Gentoo and Ubuntu boxes have switched to GMT correctly this morning, and
 so has the radio-synchronised clock on the kitchen wall.
 
 I think Mick does have a problem in his Gentoo setup.

Ok, well that explains that then. I'm not in the UK or anywhere near Europe 
either.


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