Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-04-18 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
On Friday 28 March 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
 pastup() {
   if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
   iwconfig [...]
   fi
   return 0
 }

 should work.

Nice tip, thanks.
I don't understand why config_SSID and config_ETH (or iwconfig_) can't handle 
it.
Is there a bug on bugzilla for this? My search didn't give me any result.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-30 Thread Grant
   I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
   feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
  
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
  
   for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
   work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
   time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
   it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
   goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
  
   Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
   that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
  
   - Grant

  Grant,

  Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower 
 rates
  use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better
  connects over long hauls.

  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
  speed scale doing it too.

Should the adapter itself make a lot of difference when driving an
external antenna?  I think I'm going to use one of these with my
laptop and an external antenna and I may need to pick up weak signals:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315075

Does anyone know of a strong antenna that is more portable than this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110

I'm mainly concerned with how much space it will take up in carry-on luggage.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-28 Thread Florian Philipp

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 20:42 -0400, Richard Marzan wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:52 -0700, Grant wrote:
 I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 
150
  feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of 
   these:
 
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
 
  for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble 
   making it
  work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a 
   short
  time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this 
   process,
  it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but 
   when it
  goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
 
  Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I 
   do
  that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the 
   client.
 
  - Grant
   
 Grant,
   
 Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  
   The lower
rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave 
   forms
better connects over long hauls.
   
 The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and 
   whole
 heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck 
   with these
 models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
 http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain 
   antennas you
 have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty 
   high on the
 speed scale doing it too.
  
   I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter 
   on
   the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be 
   done
   on the Gentoo AP or the client?
  
   - Grant

  I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man 
   iwconfig
  will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
  Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.
  
I found this:
  
rate_wlan0=( 5.5M )
  
which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
always reported as 0 kb/s.
  
- Grant
  
  It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
  output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
  to always use this rate?
  
  - Grant
 
 The best way I found to do this is to just write your own script and run
 it at the default runlevel. write a script called wireless-up save it in
 your /root directory. Then in /etc/conf.d/local.start add the script
 name to the list: /root/wireless-up. Make sure the script is executable
 with chmod 666 /root/wireless-up. Here is what mine looks like. I laugh
 when I read this thing that I call a script. I'll be upgrading this in
 the future but for now maybe someone has a better idea and/or script.
 
 #!/bin/bash
 DATE=`date +%m_%d_%Y`
 ifconfig wlan0 up || echo wlan up failed
 iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME || echo setting essid failed
 iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed || echo setting mode to managed failed
 iwconfig wlan0 key restricted YOURKEYHERE || echo key failed
 verification
 dhclient wlan0 || echo wlan0 failed to receive dhcp request response
 # if [ $DATE -ne `date +%m_%d_%Y -r /tmp/.wireless.*
 rm /tmp/.wireless.* 
 iwconfig  /tmp/.wireless.$DATE
 exit 0
 
 
 

For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.

Something like

pastup() {
  if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
  iwconfig [...]
  fi
  return 0
}

should work.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-28 Thread Florian Philipp

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 19:02 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:

  
 
 For custom scrips, you can add a preup, failup or postup-function
 to /etc/conf.d/net, there should be examples in the file.
 
 Something like
 
 pastup() {
   if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then
   iwconfig [...]
   fi
   return 0
 }
 
 should work.

postup(), not pastup()


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-27 Thread Grant
   I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
   feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
  
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
  
   for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
   work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
   time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
   it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
   goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
  
   Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
   that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
  
   - Grant

  Grant,

  Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower 
 rates
  use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better
  connects over long hauls.

  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
  speed scale doing it too.

With careful antenna placement and use of 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 2M' I
have a nice reliable connection.  Thanks for the advice on lowering
the rate.

Does anyone think I would be better off with a 15 foot antenna
extension cable and a PCI adapter than what I have now which is a USB
adapter on the end of a 15 foot USB cable?  I know antenna cables are
lossy.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-27 Thread Richard Marzan

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 19:52 -0700, Grant wrote:
I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 
   150
 feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110

 for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making 
  it
 work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a 
  short
 time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this 
  process,
 it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but 
  when it
 goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.

 Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
 that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the 
  client.

 - Grant
  
Grant,
  
Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The 
  lower
   rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
   better connects over long hauls.
  
The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and 
  whole
heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with 
  these
models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain 
  antennas you
have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high 
  on the
speed scale doing it too.
 
  I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
  the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
  on the Gentoo AP or the client?
 
  - Grant
   
 I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man 
  iwconfig
 will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
 Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.
 
   I found this:
 
   rate_wlan0=( 5.5M )
 
   which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
   any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
   wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
   way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
   always reported as 0 kb/s.
 
   - Grant
 
 It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
 output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
 to always use this rate?
 
 - Grant

The best way I found to do this is to just write your own script and run
it at the default runlevel. write a script called wireless-up save it in
your /root directory. Then in /etc/conf.d/local.start add the script
name to the list: /root/wireless-up. Make sure the script is executable
with chmod 666 /root/wireless-up. Here is what mine looks like. I laugh
when I read this thing that I call a script. I'll be upgrading this in
the future but for now maybe someone has a better idea and/or script.

#!/bin/bash
DATE=`date +%m_%d_%Y`
ifconfig wlan0 up || echo wlan up failed
iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME || echo setting essid failed
iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed || echo setting mode to managed failed
iwconfig wlan0 key restricted YOURKEYHERE || echo key failed
verification
dhclient wlan0 || echo wlan0 failed to receive dhcp request response
# if [ $DATE -ne `date +%m_%d_%Y -r /tmp/.wireless.*
rm /tmp/.wireless.* 
iwconfig  /tmp/.wireless.$DATE
exit 0



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 04:53:24 pm Grant wrote:
 I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
 feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110

 for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
 work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
 time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
 it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
 goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.

 Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
 that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.

 - Grant

Grant,

Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower rates 
use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better 
connects over long hauls. 

The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole 
heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these 
models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at: 
http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you 
have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the 
speed scale doing it too.


Cheers.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
  feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:

  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110

  for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
  work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
  time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
  it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
  goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.

  Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
  that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.

  - Grant

It might but it didn't for me. I eventually bought 4 of these LinkSys
Wireless Access Point units and placed them in strategic locations to
get around the problems I was having.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124012

They have worked very well for me but occasionally I have folks in my
neighborhood getting attached to my network and I have to forcibly
drive them off. I run these in their 'bridging' mode and don't use any
Linux wireless. All my Gentoo machines use wired networks talking to
these boxes or the router directly.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Grant
   I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
   feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
  
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
  
   for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
   work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
   time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
   it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
   goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
  
   Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
   that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
  
   - Grant

  Grant,

  Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower 
 rates
  use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better
  connects over long hauls.

  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
  speed scale doing it too.

I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
on the Gentoo AP or the client?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:21:50 pm Grant wrote:
I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
   
for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
   
Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
   
- Grant
 
   Grant,
 
   Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower
  rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
  better connects over long hauls.
 
   The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
   heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
   models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
   http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
   have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
   speed scale doing it too.

 I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
 the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
 on the Gentoo AP or the client?

 - Grant

I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man iwconfig 
will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the 
Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.

Cheers.







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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Grant
  I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
  feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
 
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
 
  for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
  work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
  time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
  it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
  goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
 
  Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
  that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
 
  - Grant
   
 Grant,
   
 Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The lower
rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
better connects over long hauls.
   
 The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
 heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
 models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
 http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
 have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
 speed scale doing it too.
  
   I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
   the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
   on the Gentoo AP or the client?
  
   - Grant

  I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man iwconfig
  will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
  Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.

I found this:

rate_wlan0=( 5.5M )

which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
always reported as 0 kb/s.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

2008-03-26 Thread Grant
   I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
   
for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this 
 process,
it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when 
 it
goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
   
Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the 
 client.
   
- Grant
 
   Grant,
 
   Yes, lowering the rate to a slower speed will help greatly.  The 
 lower
  rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
  better connects over long hauls.
 
   The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
   heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with 
 these
   models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
   http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas 
 you
   have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on 
 the
   speed scale doing it too.

 I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
 the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
 on the Gentoo AP or the client?

 - Grant
  
I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man 
 iwconfig
will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.

  I found this:

  rate_wlan0=( 5.5M )

  which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
  any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
  wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
  way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
  always reported as 0 kb/s.

  - Grant

It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
to always use this rate?

- Grant
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