Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:13:53AM +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.01.2012 03:56, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, everybody. I've finally become zic and tired of messages like Tue Jan 17 02:48:28 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2012 on tty14 . Trying to read man zic, my eyes just glaze over. I just want my time to be GMT (or UTC or UCT, or whatever it's called these days). Surely I don't have to go through the palaver described in the zic manual page. Help, please! Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime Thanks, that did it. (Berlin is my guess since you hail from Nuremberg, otherwise look in /usr/share/zoneinfo if something fits better) Actually I set it to UTC. Even though I live in De, I leave my watch set to UTC and make the required conversion every time I look at it. It's not hard, begin only one or two hours different, depending on the season. Kind regards, Hinnerk -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:13:53 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. The correct Gentoo/OpenRC way to do this is echo Europe/Berlin |/etc/timezone That will copy the correct file to /etc each time you update the timezone-data package. -- Neil Bothwick When the going gets tough, upgrade. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
On Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:13:53 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. Are you sure you're not confusing that with hardlinking? Because AFAIK symlinking is the only linking that can cross filesystem borders. CMIIW Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.01.2012 13:29, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:13:53 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. Are you sure you're not confusing that with hardlinking? Because AFAIK symlinking is the only linking that can cross filesystem borders. CMIIW Rgds, Symlinking works (over filesystem borders, too, Pandu is right) and it even autoupdates localtime when (why ever) something in zoneinfo changes... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPFWyMAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcVxEH/jErMjFwb3mRBUvcty0WvOxH GQXXeTKC03WV4UdGTvNIjWO7Ssp45WQQU1TTvnTPMxn93eEwV/m2Dzvnl9+DhHTv 96eylcxKA5QNO5Sn0Ol6p0NJcG62nGbzJ/5MQzNrhBTvZcu2jJ9g77Jpyzgr0hhx nb/cEI0qwe+iyoxd0Aa34MAjJNjG7rUnFb9zw+8iFol4nt/1NT8ldQtYKZkaHlfZ zHfSkSWDx9SCDqwVrcaxMGjZVK0Lb91cfPp1HvJ350L4gyCffskYE/gtKh3m0IXV DS4JK2kVp7fDJjeWfBiVWUpDuNAs7zYiI0rTs6z6tvYyxrufUmtWux1xI2WOcGg= =HBnE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 19:41, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen h.v.bruineh...@fu-berlin.de wrote: On 17.01.2012 13:29, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:13:53 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. Are you sure you're not confusing that with hardlinking? Because AFAIK symlinking is the only linking that can cross filesystem borders. Symlinking works (over filesystem borders, too, Pandu is right) and it even autoupdates localtime when (why ever) something in zoneinfo changes... As to the why ... Just two sample cases: In 2010 (or 2009, I forgot) the USA Federal Govt redefines the changeover dates for DST. Also, at the very end of 2011, Samoa changed their timezone from UTC-11 to UTC+13 (+14 in summer) [1][2] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Date_Line#Samoan_Islands_and_Tokelau [2] http://www.webcitation.org/64jx2ob6X Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:41:48 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. Are you sure you're not confusing that with hardlinking? Because AFAIK symlinking is the only linking that can cross filesystem borders. It can... if the filesystem is mounted at the time. AFAIR this causes problem setting the timezone at boot time. Symlinking works (over filesystem borders, too, Pandu is right) and it even autoupdates localtime when (why ever) something in zoneinfo changes... The localtime files change all the time, look at how often timezone-data is updated. Everyone some bright spark comes up with another clever way of squeezing 25 hours into a day, his country's DST rules change. That's why openrc has a setting to manage this automatically for you. - -- Neil Bothwick Make like a tree and leave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8VcnMACgkQum4al0N1GQPbRQCfSP/xhZyb5pvn9RY4B/OfcsHT B5UAn1QvHsp22qTsEaOGZ43HMQDvWhsm =p+9j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.01.2012 14:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:41:48 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: Symlinking is not recommended as it breaks when /usr is on a separate filesystem. The file should be copied instead. Are you sure you're not confusing that with hardlinking? Because AFAIK symlinking is the only linking that can cross filesystem borders. It can... if the filesystem is mounted at the time. AFAIR this causes problem setting the timezone at boot time. Symlinking works (over filesystem borders, too, Pandu is right) and it even autoupdates localtime when (why ever) something in zoneinfo changes... The localtime files change all the time, look at how often timezone-data is updated. Everyone some bright spark comes up with another clever way of squeezing 25 hours into a day, his country's DST rules change. That's why openrc has a setting to manage this automatically for you. I know that it happens, I just fail to understand why... ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPFXP6AAoJEJwwOFaNFkYc3XQIAMnFUGScoaV9hg5mCcMwthmj i2k3iWxPaYNCwfoC64TlW6vijf/SpRwdLZULRq0N1Yc6t8sAs8cTY8u0CzZjVMPG WL9mK2lYOyzhE41kjBjxvjfV3Tee6mgeBHXfeFqIglR9/jfEBFp3ZFF1kX++R2K3 fXFuOffEGczcXHyv6TCNYYcLU0VYqRYvrJ0NGFQHRjpXcLJffFO9FTpdeg0VJHar 8eSpFMKjy0505iggFVvdB2DMx/SdrLJ4UWlBI/O/Lxztk8VUHnZYzPhMn1W8lz9p fyGf8BTGJieQvijN4njORZ4GGEEHOX3myFPbS1nNoRWXbqzjk44Mog3GDGu9WR4= =V+Pc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:13:30 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: The localtime files change all the time, look at how often timezone-data is updated. Everyone some bright spark comes up with another clever way of squeezing 25 hours into a day, his country's DST rules change. That's why openrc has a setting to manage this automatically for you. I know that it happens, I just fail to understand why... ;) It's a government/civil service thing, you're not supposed to understand. Just be a good boy and vote for them next time :-/ - -- Neil Bothwick Windows - software package to turn a 486 into an Etch-A-Sketch! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8Veq4ACgkQum4al0N1GQMi0wCfRdHSd3KKTfmbzYHEtq4icEVg 4HgAn0rIa2VpAvt829RiBdtIO/jib7BN =cloF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
On 1/16/2012 09:56 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, everybody. I've finally become zic and tired of messages like Tue Jan 17 02:48:28 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2012 on tty14 . Trying to read man zic, my eyes just glaze over. I just want my time to be GMT (or UTC or UCT, or whatever it's called these days). Surely I don't have to go through the palaver described in the zic manual page. Help, please! I'm not sure what arch you're using, but the Installation manual has a part of the answer for you. I tend to avoid zic like I would avoid the plague, and use the Gentoo method of changing settings. For x86/amd64 systems (7.1.7): # ls /usr/share/zoneinfo (Suppose you want to use GMT) # cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT /etc/localtime You also need to edit /etc/conf.d/hwclock (if you're using baselayout-2) Specifically, you want to change the clock= line to the timezone you are going to be using. There also used to be an /etc/timezone file that would have to be edited, as well. I think they removed that file, but it has been a while since I changed my timezone. After doing all this, you'd have to source /etc/profile in your active shells, or just restart. You may get some errors about file times - especially when trying to emerge packages, and if the dates would be in the future. Not a problem if they're in the past. Chris signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ZIC, aka setting the time zone.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.01.2012 03:56, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, everybody. I've finally become zic and tired of messages like Tue Jan 17 02:48:28 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2012 on tty14 . Trying to read man zic, my eyes just glaze over. I just want my time to be GMT (or UTC or UCT, or whatever it's called these days). Surely I don't have to go through the palaver described in the zic manual page. Help, please! Should be done with: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin /etc/localtime (Berlin is my guess since you hail from Nuremberg, otherwise look in /usr/share/zoneinfo if something fits better) Kind regards, Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPFR+xAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcbPsH/iLJUSJjgWaAfMQzp1sXyI/X uCVHqToWpGSQxMyVYEL6C9/uBrBmBa0uCB+XWbuCM/6vxdifvwoKfQ2nneKQPx78 uEVUqBb0DZY0jEfJf7HMdvnGbZGLkNBnpvt237UE6615qp75mzn+Y5qMvQ17gVBo 7Tcq8SWIwQbUcxw3ksGrY9qOmf7TG7+QMexr88boR1WwXvmPkmNM/Mia/AzoJZKT sd5PCgC7H9K4PciPazFxQrLnlq4tUdfXLBj6Fb7vOJNHgGw5aS2XdCxm0d6rGPYi VT1u0yrkbTNm/RHZVW8wWEYexS/NYoRQMdyd9ze02A1GaopmejkN2QSJCk21Lt4= =l3JX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
