Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
On Monday 11 Jan 2016 20:10:53 Stroller wrote: > > On Mon, 11 January 2016, at 6:48 p.m., waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > The other problem is that HTML5 sucks up more CPU for video. My data > > > > point with an ancient underpowered Atom netbook watching a Youtube music > > video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA > > > > Flash > > = > > 1) Regular (i.e. smallest) display plays OK > > 2) Wide format display plays OK > > 3) Fullscreen audio OK, but video stutters badly > > > > HTML5 > > = > > 1) Regular (i.e. smallest) display plays OK > > 2) Wide format audio OK, but video stutters badly > > 3) Fullscreen; you don't really want to know > > That must be the codec or the resolution or something, surely? > > Or possibly the way your browser implements things. > > My understanding is that Flash™ is a compiled bytecode. So any video player > written in Flash has to go through an extra step of translation, at > runtime, for its instructions to be translated into native code. > > I believe different plugins may be written with different security > frameworks - giving a plugin permission to talk directly to the GPU has > more serious implications than the browser taking a 480x360 video stream > and drawing it in the window itself. And one of those (the latter, I > think?) will have more processing overhead, too. > > But I find it hard to believe that Flash it's generally more efficient to > run Flash programs than native ones. > > Note that the video you refer to is available in two different formats at > its best resolution - vp8 and avc1: > >$ youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA -F >… >43 webm 640x360medium , vorbis, vp8.0 >18 mp4640x360medium , mp4a.40.2, avc1.42001E > (best) $ > > Undoubtedly one of these codecs is a bit more efficient than the other. > > Stroller. I tried to play it with a default profile and the flash plugin disabled. This is the stream that right-click/stats for nerds shows: Video ID: cwqhdRs4jyA Dimensions: 640 x 480 Resolution: 480 x 360 Volume:100% Stream Host: Stream Type: https CPN: CRD2ZLDNKPRMg_WO Mime Type: video/webm; codecs="vp8.0, vorbis" DASH: no (43) BTW, there's nothing wrong with the audio. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
> On Mon, 11 January 2016, at 6:48 p.m., waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > The other problem is that HTML5 sucks up more CPU for video. My data > point with an ancient underpowered Atom netbook watching a Youtube music > video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA > > Flash > = > 1) Regular (i.e. smallest) display plays OK > 2) Wide format display plays OK > 3) Fullscreen audio OK, but video stutters badly > > HTML5 > = > 1) Regular (i.e. smallest) display plays OK > 2) Wide format audio OK, but video stutters badly > 3) Fullscreen; you don't really want to know That must be the codec or the resolution or something, surely? Or possibly the way your browser implements things. My understanding is that Flash™ is a compiled bytecode. So any video player written in Flash has to go through an extra step of translation, at runtime, for its instructions to be translated into native code. I believe different plugins may be written with different security frameworks - giving a plugin permission to talk directly to the GPU has more serious implications than the browser taking a 480x360 video stream and drawing it in the window itself. And one of those (the latter, I think?) will have more processing overhead, too. But I find it hard to believe that Flash it's generally more efficient to run Flash programs than native ones. Note that the video you refer to is available in two different formats at its best resolution - vp8 and avc1: $ youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA -F … 43 webm 640x360medium , vorbis, vp8.0 18 mp4640x360medium , mp4a.40.2, avc1.42001E (best) $ Undoubtedly one of these codecs is a bit more efficient than the other. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
> I keep getting a warning that Flash needs to be upgraded. I went to > packages.g.o and there doesn't seem to be a newer version than what I > have. What gives? I'd upgrade if there was one available but there > isn't or I can't find it one. I found a bug report on the version I > have installed so they know there is a issue but not sure what is going > on in the background. > Is there a alternative to flash? Last I read on this there are but they > have issues. Are they any better today than they was a little while back? > Also, is there a way to disable this warning? I know about it but I > can't do anything about it either. It's just a annoyance right now. > Thanks. > Dale >From news that I read online, Adobe no longer updates Flash player Linux >version beyond 11.x. Many sites now, including YouTube, and many spammers, have gone over to HTML5, though some of those also work with Flash. Under FreeBSD, I built gnash from ports, that worked with YouTube but not much else but can't be built for FreeBSD >=10. I tried swfdec, but that didn't work on anything. There is also lightspark; I am not familiar with its status. In some cases, it is possible to download a Flash video with youtube-dl or get-flash-videos. Adobe Flash remains a bitter reality on mlb.com, nfl.com, wfpl.org, AT Uverse, among others. Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Dalewrote: > Howdy, > > I keep getting a warning that Flash needs to be upgraded. I went to > packages.g.o and there doesn't seem to be a newer version than what I > have. What gives? I'd upgrade if there was one available but there > isn't or I can't find it one. I found a bug report on the version I > have installed so they know there is a issue but not sure what is going > on in the background. > > Is there a alternative to flash? Last I read on this there are but they > have issues. Are they any better today than they was a little while back? > > Also, is there a way to disable this warning? I know about it but I > can't do anything about it either. It's just a annoyance right now. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > > When it comes to playing back video content on youtube and the like, I have the HTML5 player enabled, which I am happy with. I still use adobe flash player though for websites that still rely on it, like 'imdb.com', etc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
On Sunday 10 January 2016 12:25:41 Thomas Mueller wrote: > Adobe Flash remains a bitter reality on mlb.com, nfl.com, wfpl.org, AT > Uverse, among others. ... bbc.co.uk ... -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
You can install pepperflash to chromium although it's proprietary. Google Chrome has pepper flash by default On Sun, Jan 10, 2016, 10:54 Peter Humphreywrote: > On Sunday 10 January 2016 12:25:41 Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > Adobe Flash remains a bitter reality on mlb.com, nfl.com, wfpl.org, AT > > Uverse, among others. > > ... bbc.co.uk ... > > -- > Rgds > Peter > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe flash warning and tree
On Sunday 10 Jan 2016 18:39:43 Ian Bloss wrote: > You can install pepperflash to chromium although it's proprietary. Google > Chrome has pepper flash by default For Chromium you can install: www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?
On Friday 23 Oct 2015 10:24:42 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 22 October 2015 21:38:50 Marc Joliet wrote: > > Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks > > and 2 hours ago :-) . I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, > > mpv's built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still > > don't support HTML5 video. I practically never encounter any other type > > of flash content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash > > games, so they don't count.) > > Where I live, BBC Radio 3 is not receivable by direct broadcast, so I use > the iPlayer daily to listen to it on my desktop box. It won't work without > flash, so until the BBC change their ways I'm stuck with it. I did try > radiotray some time ago, but I like the text and pictures that come with > the iPlayer. > > (Sorry about all the confusing pronouns.) There are shoutcasts and all sorts of HLS, HDS alternative methods to stream to your PC, not utilising flash. There is also get_iplayer with its recording capability, which I prefer ;-) http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?
On Thursday 22 October 2015 21:38:50 Marc Joliet wrote: > Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks and > 2 hours ago :-) . I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's > built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still don't > support HTML5 video. I practically never encounter any other type of flash > content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so > they don't count.) Where I live, BBC Radio 3 is not receivable by direct broadcast, so I use the iPlayer daily to listen to it on my desktop box. It won't work without flash, so until the BBC change their ways I'm stuck with it. I did try radiotray some time ago, but I like the text and pictures that come with the iPlayer. (Sorry about all the confusing pronouns.) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?
On Thursday 22 October 2015 18:01:10 James wrote: >Hello, > >I was just reading about "lighspark" [1] and at first glance, it seems >to be a replacement for adobe flash with support for the latest >features. Lightspark can be found with:: >'eix -R lightspark' > > >You may also need to run 'eix-remote update' if you have not updated >that database of extended-availability packages.. >So anyone tried lightspark with mozilla browers (seamonkey, ff, etc)? > > > >Granted we all just wish flash would go away and be replaced by something >else that is open source. But, I need to view some flash deliverables >on a routine basis:: so this post is about better support for flash >in browsers. I am really tired of adobe-flash. > > >[1] http://lightspark.github.io/ I tried that a good while ago, but at the time I had no luck. However, that was a few years ago. Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks and 2 hours ago :-) . I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still don't support HTML5 video. I practically never encounter any other type of flash content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so they don't count.) One other interesting project in the direction of replacing adobe-flash is Mozilla's Shumway, which is, AIUI, basically a Flash interpreter written in JavaScript. With it, you wouldn't even need a browser plug-in. It is considered an experiment, though. See the following links: https://blog.mozilla.org/research/2012/11/12/introducing-the-shumway-open-swf-runtime-project/ http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2012-11-12/shumway-a-swf-interpreter-entirely-in-javascript/ http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/ https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/wiki -- Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?
On четверг, 22 октября 2015 г. 22:38:50 MSK, Marc Joliet wrote: I tried that a good while ago, but at the time I had no luck. However, that was a few years ago. Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks and 2 hours ago :-) . I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still don't support HTML5 video. I practically never encounter any other type of flash content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so they don't count.) I also tried Lightspark several times, I wouldn't consider it ready to use. As for Flash content, I ocasionally come across it: speedtest.net for example or many Japanese websites... I run Flash content in Chromium which has its own plugin for it (installed with package www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins).
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.481 available; patches exploit
That version is not available after a sync a couple of hours ago. Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Adobe has released adobe-flash-11.2.202.481 for linux, and it is now available as an ebuild. Thanks to the devs for a quick turnaround with the ebuild. It is important to update, because a zero-day exploit was discovered in the 400 gigabytes of data from the Hacking Team hack. And yes, it can potentially hit linux too... http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/07/adobe-confirms-flash-vulnerability-found-via-hacking-team-leak-promises-patch-tomorrow/ -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.481 available; patches exploit
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:14 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: That version is not available after a sync a couple of hours ago. https://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-plugins/adobe-flash Try a different mirror.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.481 available; patches exploit
OK, thanks -- its here now, just a slow mirror. Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:14 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: That version is not available after a sync a couple of hours ago. https://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-plugins/adobe-flash Try a different mirror. Alternatives: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:11 I wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 09:30:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:32:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? No, I hadn't heard of it. Looks interesting - thanks Mick. There's also radiotray is you want an unobtrusive way of listening to the radio without the web 2.0 enhanced experience. Even better! I'm running it now, having found a working URL from their bookmarks file. Thank you both, gents. Postscript: There's a comprehensive list of BBC stations at [1]. If anyone's interested and wants to use it, you'll have to fix a bug first. The 45 bookmark entries in the full BBC regional group are all missing a / character just before the line end. I've attached a fixed version hereto to save you the bother. [1] http://jbbr.co.uk/jbbr/2013/02/23/radiotray-bbc-radio-bookmarks-xml/ -- Regards Peter bookmarks.xml Description: XML document
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Saturday 26 July 2014 10:46:35 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 15:26:11 I wrote: On Friday 25 July 2014 09:30:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:32:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? No, I hadn't heard of it. Looks interesting - thanks Mick. There's also radiotray is you want an unobtrusive way of listening to the radio without the web 2.0 enhanced experience. Even better! I'm running it now, having found a working URL from their bookmarks file. Thank you both, gents. Postscript: There's a comprehensive list of BBC stations at [1]. If anyone's interested and wants to use it, you'll have to fix a bug first. The 45 bookmark entries in the full BBC regional group are all missing a / character just before the line end. I've attached a fixed version hereto to save you the bother. [1] http://jbbr.co.uk/jbbr/2013/02/23/radiotray-bbc-radio-bookmarks-xml/ Postpostscript: The author's now fixed the original. I haven't checked it though. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Friday 25 July 2014 06:45:35 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 Jul 2014 10:00:00 Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? No, I hadn't heard of it. Looks interesting - thanks Mick. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:32:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? No, I hadn't heard of it. Looks interesting - thanks Mick. There's also radiotray is you want an unobtrusive way of listening to the radio without the web 2.0 enhanced experience. -- Neil Bothwick Ohnosecond: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize you've just made a big mistake signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Friday 25 July 2014 09:30:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:32:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? No, I hadn't heard of it. Looks interesting - thanks Mick. There's also radiotray is you want an unobtrusive way of listening to the radio without the web 2.0 enhanced experience. Even better! I'm running it now, having found a working URL from their bookmarks file. Thank you both, gents. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Are you using http-replicator? Its not clever enough to know that the installer has changed since the filename doesn't change, and keeps serving up the first one it downloads. If you remove the installer first from replicator's --dir, it will work.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
Are you using http-replicator? Its not clever enough to know that the installer has changed since the filename doesn't change, and keeps serving up the first one it downloads. If you remove the installer first from replicator's --dir, it will work. Dammit - I should look more closely at the thread, you figured it out 14 hours ago...
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Tuesday 22 July 2014 20:41:34 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:48, Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale Hmm, that's interesting. Caused me to look closer ... I am pulling from http-replicator which doesnt update the package if it cant see a name change (and adobe don't change the name on the package - just the directory its pulled from) so of course it fails checksum. Thanks for the hints to track this down. BillK Welcome. I wonder if http-replicator needs to check more than the name? I use it at times when I have more than one rig running and sounds like maybe it needs a new feature. Dale The saving grace is that I have only seen the behaviour with this one package so its something easily dealt with - now I know. Plus flash is dieing so I might be able to do away with it before much longer - unfortunately the OSS packages just are not as good. I've used http-replicator for distfiles since it came out in ~2004 and its always just worked. Oh well ... BillK I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). I have the same problem every time adobe-flash is updated. Last time it happened I had a conversation with the maintainer about it [1]. He said the problem was caused by Adobe's unconventional version numbering (which sounds like the same thing as Bill found), together with any caching proxy in between. That's http-replicator in my case too. Solved with wget --no-proxy. Or I suppose just deleting the tarball from the proxy's cache should do it. Forcing a re-manifest is not the thing to do, as that would just lead to reinstalling the version you have already. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509874 -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2014 10:00:00 Peter Humphrey wrote: I can't use any of the other packages because I use the BBC's radio streaming service every day, and none of them work with it (as far as I know). Have you looked at the get_iplayer script? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:05:43 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. It looks like FEATURES=digests will do what you want, but don't enable it globally. man make.conf for more info. -- Neil Bothwick Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost . Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost . Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale :-) :-) Hmm, that's interesting. Caused me to look closer ... I am pulling from http-replicator which doesnt update the package if it cant see a name change (and adobe don't change the name on the package - just the directory its pulled from) so of course it fails checksum. Thanks for the hints to track this down. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 07:31:35 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost . Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale :-) :-) Hmm, that's interesting. Caused me to look closer ... I am pulling from http-replicator which doesnt update the package if it cant see a name change (and adobe don't change the name on the package - just the directory its pulled from) so of course it fails checksum. Thanks for the hints to track this down. Sounds like you might have been running a very old version without realising? I personally would consider it a bug in http-replicator that it doesn't take the actual location or filedate into account. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost . Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale :-) :-) Hmm, that's interesting. Caused me to look closer ... I am pulling from http-replicator which doesnt update the package if it cant see a name change (and adobe don't change the name on the package - just the directory its pulled from) so of course it fails checksum. Thanks for the hints to track this down. BillK Welcome. I wonder if http-replicator needs to check more than the name? I use it at times when I have more than one rig running and sounds like maybe it needs a new feature. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe flash
On 22/07/14 19:48, Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: On 22/07/14 19:03, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 05:05:43 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: I have a couple of systems with flash that are always a pain to update because the checksums fail so you have to manually force a manifest rebuild first. As I have to update them anyway, is there a ways to override the portage checksums and say install anyway? Because this package always fails anyway, I cant see any security gain by having a manual update every-time anyway. I would be more interested in finding out why it fails? I use adobe flash myself and never experience a checksum issue with it. -- Joost . Same here. I have it installed here and don't recall ever having a digest issue. It could be that something is off somewhere. If so, I'd rethink bypassing the checks. Dale :-) :-) Hmm, that's interesting. Caused me to look closer ... I am pulling from http-replicator which doesnt update the package if it cant see a name change (and adobe don't change the name on the package - just the directory its pulled from) so of course it fails checksum. Thanks for the hints to track this down. BillK Welcome. I wonder if http-replicator needs to check more than the name? I use it at times when I have more than one rig running and sounds like maybe it needs a new feature. Dale :-) :-) The saving grace is that I have only seen the behaviour with this one package so its something easily dealt with - now I know. Plus flash is dieing so I might be able to do away with it before much longer - unfortunately the OSS packages just are not as good. I've used http-replicator for distfiles since it came out in ~2004 and its always just worked. Oh well ... BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
David Haller wrote: Hello, On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Dale wrote: `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved 11.2.202.235 crashes all the time anyway (at least on x86_64), there's a new version 11.2.202.236 out since yesterday or so that works again. HTH, -dnh I been using *.236 for a while. I think it is a mismatch between flash and something else, maybe nvidia, Seamonkey or something like that. Right now, it seems to be working fine. I've done a few upgrades so maybe whatever was not happy got updated to a happy version. Now that it is happy, I'll join in. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
Hello, On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Dale wrote: `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved 11.2.202.235 crashes all the time anyway (at least on x86_64), there's a new version 11.2.202.236 out since yesterday or so that works again. HTH, -dnh -- The speed at which a mistyped command executes is directly proportional to the amount of damage done. -- Joe Zeff
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
On Monday 11 Jun 2012 14:46:19 Dale wrote: Top posting for obvious reasons. ;-) I was thinking it could be this but this is the first time I have ever ran into this with adobe-flash. I wanted to sort of check into it before doing anything that may cause issues' such as just redoing the manifest. I did think about it tho. Now to go redo the manifest and try to get it so that sites will work again. In ways flash is good but at times, I want to kick it in the family jewels. O_O Thanks. Dale :-) :-) William Kenworthy wrote: I get this, commonly with adobe-flash and google-earth. I suspect that they change the file content or dynamically regenerate it faster than portage can track them/my local repos update. The only fix I have been able to come up with is check as far as possible where the binary came from and regenerate the manifest before emerging ... hardly secure. BillK On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 05:54 -0500, Dale wrote: Howdy, I been trying to play around with versions of adobe-flash to see which version a) works and b) doesn't crash or cause other problems. Anyway, I was using one version, the 10 version, for a bit but am having issues so I wanted to try a newer version. It seems tho, no matter what version I want to try, I get messages similar to this: 2012-06-11 05:28:53 (292 MB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved [6916648/6916648] !!! Fetched file: adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 6916648 !!! Expected: 6916435 Refetching... File renamed to '/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz._checksum_f ailure_.8RQBX4' !!! Couldn't download 'adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz'. Aborting. * Fetch failed for 'www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235', Log file: * '/var/tmp/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235/temp/build.log' * The values change but the error is the same no matter what version I try to use. What I have tried so far: syncing the tree again. deleting the files in /usr/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash/ deleting anything adobe in distfiles and in http-replicator. syncing the tree again. I still get the same error. Another thing I noticed. When I delete the adobe files in distfiles and try to emerge them, I get this on the tail end: 6750K 100% 189M=0.02s I have DSL here but to put it bluntly, it ain't nowhere near that fast. Heck, my hard drives ain't that fast. I run http-replicator but I also removed those files too so it is not coming from there. If it is not local, it can't download it that fast, where is it coming from? I only have one rig running locally, not that my network is that fast either. lol Is this just me or is anyone else having this issue? If it is just me, what else can I do to fix this? Haven't tried the latest, but it has happened here too in the past. I recall following pretty much what you've done to resolve this problem (except for the replicator thing). I seem to recall that on one occasion I had to try again the next day to get it to work, because I did not want to risk it with manifest-ing a dodgy download. I guess you could try downloading it manually directly from adobe? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
Mick wrote: Haven't tried the latest, but it has happened here too in the past. I recall following pretty much what you've done to resolve this problem (except for the replicator thing). I seem to recall that on one occasion I had to try again the next day to get it to work, because I did not want to risk it with manifest-ing a dodgy download. I guess you could try downloading it manually directly from adobe? I watched the download, it came from adobe. I wouldn't have done the manifest thing if it came from anywhere else. So far, I think the new sources are working better. It's not crashing/freezing so much. I'm not going to complain as long as it works. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
I get this, commonly with adobe-flash and google-earth. I suspect that they change the file content or dynamically regenerate it faster than portage can track them/my local repos update. The only fix I have been able to come up with is check as far as possible where the binary came from and regenerate the manifest before emerging ... hardly secure. BillK On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 05:54 -0500, Dale wrote: Howdy, I been trying to play around with versions of adobe-flash to see which version a) works and b) doesn't crash or cause other problems. Anyway, I was using one version, the 10 version, for a bit but am having issues so I wanted to try a newer version. It seems tho, no matter what version I want to try, I get messages similar to this: 2012-06-11 05:28:53 (292 MB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved [6916648/6916648] !!! Fetched file: adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 6916648 !!! Expected: 6916435 Refetching... File renamed to '/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz._checksum_failure_.8RQBX4' !!! Couldn't download 'adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz'. Aborting. * Fetch failed for 'www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235', Log file: * '/var/tmp/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235/temp/build.log' * The values change but the error is the same no matter what version I try to use. What I have tried so far: syncing the tree again. deleting the files in /usr/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash/ deleting anything adobe in distfiles and in http-replicator. syncing the tree again. I still get the same error. Another thing I noticed. When I delete the adobe files in distfiles and try to emerge them, I get this on the tail end: 6750K 100% 189M=0.02s I have DSL here but to put it bluntly, it ain't nowhere near that fast. Heck, my hard drives ain't that fast. I run http-replicator but I also removed those files too so it is not coming from there. If it is not local, it can't download it that fast, where is it coming from? I only have one rig running locally, not that my network is that fast either. lol Is this just me or is anyone else having this issue? If it is just me, what else can I do to fix this? Thanks in advance. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash and constant errors.
Top posting for obvious reasons. ;-) I was thinking it could be this but this is the first time I have ever ran into this with adobe-flash. I wanted to sort of check into it before doing anything that may cause issues' such as just redoing the manifest. I did think about it tho. Now to go redo the manifest and try to get it so that sites will work again. In ways flash is good but at times, I want to kick it in the family jewels. O_O Thanks. Dale :-) :-) William Kenworthy wrote: I get this, commonly with adobe-flash and google-earth. I suspect that they change the file content or dynamically regenerate it faster than portage can track them/my local repos update. The only fix I have been able to come up with is check as far as possible where the binary came from and regenerate the manifest before emerging ... hardly secure. BillK On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 05:54 -0500, Dale wrote: Howdy, I been trying to play around with versions of adobe-flash to see which version a) works and b) doesn't crash or cause other problems. Anyway, I was using one version, the 10 version, for a bit but am having issues so I wanted to try a newer version. It seems tho, no matter what version I want to try, I get messages similar to this: 2012-06-11 05:28:53 (292 MB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz' saved [6916648/6916648] !!! Fetched file: adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 6916648 !!! Expected: 6916435 Refetching... File renamed to '/usr/portage/distfiles/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz._checksum_failure_.8RQBX4' !!! Couldn't download 'adobe-flash-11.2.202.235.i386.tar.gz'. Aborting. * Fetch failed for 'www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235', Log file: * '/var/tmp/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.235/temp/build.log' * The values change but the error is the same no matter what version I try to use. What I have tried so far: syncing the tree again. deleting the files in /usr/portage/www-plugins/adobe-flash/ deleting anything adobe in distfiles and in http-replicator. syncing the tree again. I still get the same error. Another thing I noticed. When I delete the adobe files in distfiles and try to emerge them, I get this on the tail end: 6750K 100% 189M=0.02s I have DSL here but to put it bluntly, it ain't nowhere near that fast. Heck, my hard drives ain't that fast. I run http-replicator but I also removed those files too so it is not coming from there. If it is not local, it can't download it that fast, where is it coming from? I only have one rig running locally, not that my network is that fast either. lol Is this just me or is anyone else having this issue? If it is just me, what else can I do to fix this? Thanks in advance. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. I thought I'd report back that while Flash continues to crash on this machine only even with updates to both Firefox adobe-flash, I tried Google Chrome this morning and it works perfectly. I appears the root cause of this problem would be Firefox, not Flash or nvidia-drivers, and I once again have a solution for watching Flash-based media, at least for the short term. My thinking at this point is that Google is going to drive a solution that keeps YouTube users happy. I doubt long-term they'll let Adobe, a much smaller company, control their future... :-) Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
Doesn't Google bundle a version of flash with their browser? Or is that something that's coming in the future? I had flash crashing a lot on my machine, and just disabled hardware acceleration in the settings to fix it. Alecks Gates, sent from Android on an HTC G2 On May 6, 2012 10:28 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. I thought I'd report back that while Flash continues to crash on this machine only even with updates to both Firefox adobe-flash, I tried Google Chrome this morning and it works perfectly. I appears the root cause of this problem would be Firefox, not Flash or nvidia-drivers, and I once again have a solution for watching Flash-based media, at least for the short term. My thinking at this point is that Google is going to drive a solution that keeps YouTube users happy. I doubt long-term they'll let Adobe, a much smaller company, control their future... :-) Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
SNIP I thought I'd report back that while Flash continues to crash on this machine only even with updates to both Firefox adobe-flash, I tried Google Chrome this morning and it works perfectly. I appears the root cause of this problem would be Firefox, not Flash or nvidia-drivers, and I once again have a solution for watching Flash-based media, at least for the short term. My thinking at this point is that Google is going to drive a solution that keeps YouTube users happy. I doubt long-term they'll let Adobe, a much smaller company, control their future... :-) Cheers, Mark On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't Google bundle a version of flash with their browser? Or is that something that's coming in the future? I had flash crashing a lot on my machine, and just disabled hardware acceleration in the settings to fix it. Alecks Gates, sent from Android on an HTC G2 Maybe that's why it works. Who knows? ;-) Anyway, the 'disable HW acceleration' recommendation didn't work on my machine because the crash was in the Mozilla Flash plugin container and Flash never came up. It was just a Sad Mac face and a box that said Flash crashed so I never had the opportunity to turn it off. Even with the recommendations folks here made about turning it off in the config file it still never worked for me. I've come to think of this as a Firefox crash that only happens when starting Flash, and not actually a Flash crash. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 01:22:21PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote Do you have a really old Intel CPU, or an AMD before the K8 version? Old Intels and and pre-K8 AMDs don't support SSE2, which is used in the latest Flash binaries. Using instructions that don't exist on your CPU == crash city. There's a thread about this in the Gentoo dev forum. For the gory details, see... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/252481?do=post_view_threaded -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:19 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: And why adobe stops the linux-support? They are backing away from Flash in general across all platforms. Android and Linux are first announced. Most of the thousands of workers recently laid-off at Adobe are from the Flash area, from what I've been told. Heavy rumors that Microsoft is stopping future investment into Silverlight as well. It seems HTML5 is the future, which will be good for us in the long term.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [12-04-28 04:56]: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [12-04-28 00:20]: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. I did not find any tag in that file, which allows to disable hardeware acceleration. Or did I miss one? EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0 maybe it's not in the default file... mine has been changed a lot :) it was mentioned in the flash player release notes. You can also right-click on a non-crashing clash object and change the settings using GUI, disabling the acceleration is in there, too. This does not work for me. The Clash player still starts with hardware accel enabled and give me that nice LSD-colored impressions... ;( Is there any other way to prevent the need of clicking this dialog? And why adobe stops the linux-support? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1.
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. Generically, I've been trying to disable HW Accel but it hasn't fixed the problem I'm seeing. I've tried EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0 along with AVHardwareDisable = 1 and OverrideGPUValidation=0 or OverrideGPUValidation=1 which I don't think have anything to do with this, but I tried it anyway. No luck with those. Flash still crashes and I see this in dmesg: [25443.454436] plugin-containe[5665]: segfault at 0 ip 7f2a356441c5 sp 7fff04e606e0 error 4 in libmozalloc.so[7f2a35643000+2000] [25446.424259] plugin-containe[7029]: segfault at 0 ip 7f4690ef21c5 sp 7fff788f1390 error 4 in libmozalloc.so[7f4690ef1000+2000] Most all of the references I find on the web have you turn off acceleration using a click box in Flash, but my Flash crashes so I have no GUI at all. With respect to 11.1, I suspect that's what I was running earlier but it's no longer in portage on any of my systems and I'm not finding it in any overlay. Thanks, I'll keep trying. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) Try toggling the vdpau use flag and recompiling any impacted packages. That might fix things. There really isn't a perfect cure here, adobe has essentially abandoned the linux user base which is hitting nvidia users first for some reason (except for minimal support for chromium). If all you care about is videos and youtube, you can probably add yourself to the html5 beta test at youtube and switch to a different flash engine like lightspark/gnash for everything else. -- Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com https://www.twitter.com/deploylinux 1-805-857-9144
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. Generically, I've been trying to disable HW Accel but it hasn't fixed the problem I'm seeing. I've tried EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0 along with AVHardwareDisable = 1 and OverrideGPUValidation=0 or OverrideGPUValidation=1 which I don't think have anything to do with this, but I tried it anyway. No luck with those. Flash still crashes and I see this in dmesg: [25443.454436] plugin-containe[5665]: segfault at 0 ip 7f2a356441c5 sp 7fff04e606e0 error 4 in libmozalloc.so[7f2a35643000+2000] [25446.424259] plugin-containe[7029]: segfault at 0 ip 7f4690ef21c5 sp 7fff788f1390 error 4 in libmozalloc.so[7f4690ef1000+2000] Most all of the references I find on the web have you turn off acceleration using a click box in Flash, but my Flash crashes so I have no GUI at all. With respect to 11.1, I suspect that's what I was running earlier but it's no longer in portage on any of my systems and I'm not finding it in any overlay. Thanks, I'll keep trying. 11.2 actually still crashes randomly for me, too, even with disabling the HW acceleration (Bank of America's one-time-use credit card generator for example does not work anymore...) I was thinking mostly of video playback problems (the blue tinted video, etc) but forgot about the other crashing I experienced... You can get old ebuilds from the portage CVS interface and drop them into a local overlay. http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/?hideattic=0 From what I read, there will be no further releases of flash for linux, except for the chrome-embedded version, so we may just be stuck with this broken version, to use chrome, or forced to downgrade to an insecure version (I'm sure this one is insecure, too, they just haven't found it yet...)
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks, I'll keep trying. Cheers, Mark I was diggin around to see if I could help in some small way but found something weird here. I have the 11.1 version installed. It's not in the tree tho. Since I have it installed, could I send you the ebuild and you put it in a overlay and install 11.1? If you want me to do that, let me know what you need and maybe where it is. Aren't they in /var somewhere? It's been a while so I'm not sure if this is even doable. Let me know if you want to try this. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [12-04-28 00:20]: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. I did not find any tag in that file, which allows to disable hardeware acceleration. Or did I miss one? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 + nvidia crashing
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [12-04-28 00:20]: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember reading about anyone else with this problem. Hopefully I haven't missed the right thread. I run stable Gentoo + a few ~amd64 packages. My video adapter is an NVidia 463 GTX. Since the update to adobe-flash-11.2.202.228 a few weeks ago all Flash apps crash the plugin within Firefox. I posted a bug report here and got shot down for reasons I don't understand. (I understand what he said and why he said it, but I didn't understand them just giving up without feedback back to Adobe, etc.) I'm wondering if anyone else has suffered through this to find a solution. The nouveau suggestion isn't where I want to go with my machines and I'm just not finding any solutions on the web yet. Anyway, there was at the time a newer (IIRC) or possibly slightly older (IIDRC) Flash ebuild but it's been removed from portage. That one worked for me. There is a newer version (11.2.202.233) listed on the Adobe Flash site but I haven't found info on what it corrects. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Flash 11.2 added some new kind of hardware acceleration which apparently doesn't work properly for whatever reason. Disable HW acceleration in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and cross your fingers... or downgrade to 11.1. I did not find any tag in that file, which allows to disable hardeware acceleration. Or did I miss one? EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0 maybe it's not in the default file... mine has been changed a lot :) it was mentioned in the flash player release notes. You can also right-click on a non-crashing clash object and change the settings using GUI, disabling the acceleration is in there, too.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
I use strace to trace syscalls of `/opt/Adobe/flash-player/libflashplayer.so` and found many errors like this: {{{ madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0 --- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) --- }}} Any ideas? Thanks in advance :) On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 01 April 2011 22:35:39 Einux wrote: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow in my laptop after I updated world(or maybe I reconfigured kernel options) several days ago. I've made a lot of modifications, so I'm not sure exactly which action leads to the malfunction of adobe-flash. adobe flash is just slow with composite. And its performance differs greatly between minor versions. -- Best Regards, Einux
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:56:56PM +0800, Einux wrote: Here's my lspci result: {{{ 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port (rev 07) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300M GS] (rev a1) 02:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller 02:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller 02:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) }}} I've only specified VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia in my make.conf. The problem appeared about 5 days ago, and I have been changing my configurations all the time. And I issued emerge -avuDN world every time after I made some changes:) [note: I replied back to the list (which appears to be misconfigured today, reply sends to the original sender instead of the list as normal).] Have you rebuilt your nvidia card's x11 drivers? -- caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
On Friday 01 April 2011 22:35:39 Einux wrote: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow in my laptop after I updated world(or maybe I reconfigured kernel options) several days ago. I've made a lot of modifications, so I'm not sure exactly which action leads to the malfunction of adobe-flash. adobe flash is just slow with composite. And its performance differs greatly between minor versions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash (10.1.53.64) Not Working
On Sunday 27 June 2010, dhk wrote: Adobe Flash use to work on my amd64 box, but after the last upgrade it stopped working. When I visit sites that use it I'm told that Adobe Flash is not installed or to download the plugin. In my /etc/make.conf I had to change ACCEPT_LICENSE to ACCEPT_LICENSE=AdobeFlash-10.1 and in /etc/portage/package.keywords I removed www-plugins/adobe-flash ~amd64 since it wasn't needed anymore. The following is what's installed. # emerge --search @www-plugins/adobe-flash Searching... [ Results for search key : www-plugins/adobe-flash ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * www-plugins/adobe-flash Latest version available: 10.1.53.64 Latest version installed: 10.1.53.64 Size of files: 4,643 kB Homepage: http://www.adobe.com/ Description: Adobe Flash Player License: AdobeFlash-10.1 Read the fine installation notes, which should have been printed after you emerged it: Adobe has released 10.1 in only a 32-bit version and upgrading is required to close a major security vulnerability: http://bugs.gentoo.org/322855 Furthermore, there are stability problems when running 10.1 in a 64-bit browser with nspluginwrapper. The current recommended configuration is to use a 32-bit browser such as www-client/firefox-bin: http://bugs.gentoo.org/324365
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash (10.1.53.64) Not Working
On Sunday 27 June 2010 16:00:04 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2010, dhk wrote: Adobe Flash use to work on my amd64 box, but after the last upgrade it stopped working. When I visit sites that use it I'm told that Adobe Flash is not installed or to download the plugin. In my /etc/make.conf I had to change ACCEPT_LICENSE to ACCEPT_LICENSE=AdobeFlash-10.1 and in /etc/portage/package.keywords I removed www-plugins/adobe-flash ~amd64 since it wasn't needed anymore. The following is what's installed. # emerge --search @www-plugins/adobe-flash Searching... [ Results for search key : www-plugins/adobe-flash ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * www-plugins/adobe-flash Latest version available: 10.1.53.64 Latest version installed: 10.1.53.64 Size of files: 4,643 kB Homepage: http://www.adobe.com/ Description: Adobe Flash Player License: AdobeFlash-10.1 Read the fine installation notes, which should have been printed after you emerged it: Adobe has released 10.1 in only a 32-bit version and upgrading is required to close a major security vulnerability: http://bugs.gentoo.org/322855 Furthermore, there are stability problems when running 10.1 in a 64-bit browser with nspluginwrapper. The current recommended configuration is to use a 32-bit browser such as www-client/firefox-bin: http://bugs.gentoo.org/324365 Or just reinstall nsplugginwrapper and restart your FF. That's what I did (search this list for thread titled: www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.53.64 won't play in FF Konqueror). HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash (10.1.53.64) Not Working
On 06/27/2010 12:03 PM, Mick wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2010 16:00:04 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2010, dhk wrote: Adobe Flash use to work on my amd64 box, but after the last upgrade it stopped working. When I visit sites that use it I'm told that Adobe Flash is not installed or to download the plugin. In my /etc/make.conf I had to change ACCEPT_LICENSE to ACCEPT_LICENSE=AdobeFlash-10.1 and in /etc/portage/package.keywords I removed www-plugins/adobe-flash ~amd64 since it wasn't needed anymore. The following is what's installed. # emerge --search @www-plugins/adobe-flash Searching... [ Results for search key : www-plugins/adobe-flash ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * www-plugins/adobe-flash Latest version available: 10.1.53.64 Latest version installed: 10.1.53.64 Size of files: 4,643 kB Homepage: http://www.adobe.com/ Description: Adobe Flash Player License: AdobeFlash-10.1 Read the fine installation notes, which should have been printed after you emerged it: Adobe has released 10.1 in only a 32-bit version and upgrading is required to close a major security vulnerability: http://bugs.gentoo.org/322855 Furthermore, there are stability problems when running 10.1 in a 64-bit browser with nspluginwrapper. The current recommended configuration is to use a 32-bit browser such as www-client/firefox-bin: http://bugs.gentoo.org/324365 Or just reinstall nsplugginwrapper and restart your FF. That's what I did (search this list for thread titled: www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.53.64 won't play in FF Konqueror). HTH. That worked. Thanks, --dhk