Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 19:34 +0100, Naga wrote: On Monday 09 February 2009 19:13:32 James wrote: [...] The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going bald googling trying to find out what to do, or how to fix? [...] No sound. Kmix has a red X over it on my kde panel. There are no choices there in Kmix to select on. HOW do I set this up? udev, hal, or evdev configs? In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Works for me. In fact, I've never alsa, mixers, and sound working better than in 2.6.28... I have this card: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) which has the pci id 8086:284b -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au All men know the utility of useful things; but they do not know the utility of futility. -- Chuang-tzu
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:38 +0100, Naga wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:02:16 Sebastian Günther wrote: * Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? Guess it's only broken for certain cards then? I notice there are more options for the type of hda-intel card now, so you may need to tweak that. It took me a few goes to figure out I needed the IDT/Sigmatel sub-type for the Dell/Intel chipset. cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I wasn't recommending that we make the links for them, only provide them with the tools to do so if they want to take the gamble (or the gambol). -- Larry Wall in 199709292259.paa10...@wall.org
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:02:16 Sebastian Günther wrote: * Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? Guess it's only broken for certain cards then? /Regards Naga
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Monday 09 February 2009 19:13:32 James wrote: [...] The mobo has an Nvidia chip, the video card has a ATI video chip, both only work under the Intel HDA driver. These are compiled into the kernel, not loadable modules. I'm going bald googling trying to find out what to do, or how to fix? [...] No sound. Kmix has a red X over it on my kde panel. There are no choices there in Kmix to select on. HOW do I set this up? udev, hal, or evdev configs? In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. /Regards Naga
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
* Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? /Regards Naga Curious Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpMRFXrmY0C8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config problems
Mark Knecht wrote: On 10/12/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have done the alsa configuration before, so I am kind of at a loss as to why nothing is working. I believe that I followed the Gentoo Linux Alsa Guide to the letter, but it was confusing. I had difficulty figuring out which parts of the text applied to different ways of configuring Alsa. For example, the use of modules vs. a compiled in kernel Alsa. Also, when is the alsa-driver needed for operation? It wouldn't compile when I tried it. I am using modules. Now, alsaconf failed when I tried it. It wrote error messages to modules.d/alsa. I seem to remember the error entries had a snd-*** in them. But a manually edited modules.d/alsa and then a modules-update allowed all the needed modules to be loaded during bootup. So lsmod shows all the needed modules loaded, alsamixer is fully unmuted and the volumes turned up, yet no sound. I am certain that I have the right modules for my soundcard as revealed by pciutils. Is there any other documentation for Alsa? Man alsa or alsasound revealed nothing as well as apropos alsa. Thanks, Rob. There's a lot of documentation at the Alsa site. That said, let's look around. Please post back the output of lspci lsmod cat /proc/asound/cards Remove any /etc/asound.state file, run alsamixer again, and then run alsactl store Locate a wave file and try playing that from the command line. What happens aplay file.wav - Mark I am sorry. There was no error in my configuration. Instead the error was in how I tested the setup. I gave the command cat /dev/random /dev/dsp, haha. It should have been /dev/urandom. I just missed the u'. Still, I don't know why alsaconf didn't work. Now that I have sound working, I am loath to tweek with anything. Thanks though for the support! Sincerely, Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config problems
Good news. Write back if you need anything. Cheers, Mark On 10/13/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On 10/12/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have done the alsa configuration before, so I am kind of at a loss as to why nothing is working. I believe that I followed the Gentoo Linux Alsa Guide to the letter, but it was confusing. I had difficulty figuring out which parts of the text applied to different ways of configuring Alsa. For example, the use of modules vs. a compiled in kernel Alsa. Also, when is the alsa-driver needed for operation? It wouldn't compile when I tried it. I am using modules. Now, alsaconf failed when I tried it. It wrote error messages to modules.d/alsa. I seem to remember the error entries had a snd-*** in them. But a manually edited modules.d/alsa and then a modules-update allowed all the needed modules to be loaded during bootup. So lsmod shows all the needed modules loaded, alsamixer is fully unmuted and the volumes turned up, yet no sound. I am certain that I have the right modules for my soundcard as revealed by pciutils. Is there any other documentation for Alsa? Man alsa or alsasound revealed nothing as well as apropos alsa. Thanks, Rob. There's a lot of documentation at the Alsa site. That said, let's look around. Please post back the output of lspci lsmod cat /proc/asound/cards Remove any /etc/asound.state file, run alsamixer again, and then run alsactl store Locate a wave file and try playing that from the command line. What happens aplay file.wav - Mark I am sorry. There was no error in my configuration. Instead the error was in how I tested the setup. I gave the command cat /dev/random /dev/dsp, haha. It should have been /dev/urandom. I just missed the u'. Still, I don't know why alsaconf didn't work. Now that I have sound working, I am loath to tweek with anything. Thanks though for the support! Sincerely, Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob wrote: I am sorry. There was no error in my configuration. Instead the error was in how I tested the setup. I gave the command cat /dev/random /dev/dsp, haha. It should have been /dev/urandom. I just missed the u'. Still, I don't know why alsaconf didn't work. Now that I have sound working, I am loath to tweek with anything. Thanks though for the support! Sincerely, Rob. alsaconf never ever worked for me. I have no idea what its for, but I'm pretty sure its not for configuring sound cards... (And moving the mouse around will make /dev/random spout stuff, usually... It just needs more entropy! Though it probably won't make enough stuff for your you to actually hear something...) - -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDTsMfA7Qvptb0LKURAnTNAJ0SZwF6Yv4EK7WN1ZjyKmy0Ah2o7gCgjoP3 btqXAely4LzlHEN6eK+8ktk= =wqAr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config problems
On 10/12/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have done the alsa configuration before, so I am kind of at a loss as to why nothing is working. I believe that I followed the Gentoo Linux Alsa Guide to the letter, but it was confusing. I had difficulty figuring out which parts of the text applied to different ways of configuring Alsa. For example, the use of modules vs. a compiled in kernel Alsa. Also, when is the alsa-driver needed for operation? It wouldn't compile when I tried it. I am using modules. Now, alsaconf failed when I tried it. It wrote error messages to modules.d/alsa. I seem to remember the error entries had a snd-*** in them. But a manually edited modules.d/alsa and then a modules-update allowed all the needed modules to be loaded during bootup. So lsmod shows all the needed modules loaded, alsamixer is fully unmuted and the volumes turned up, yet no sound. I am certain that I have the right modules for my soundcard as revealed by pciutils. Is there any other documentation for Alsa? Man alsa or alsasound revealed nothing as well as apropos alsa. Thanks, Rob. There's a lot of documentation at the Alsa site. That said, let's look around. Please post back the output of lspci lsmod cat /proc/asound/cards Remove any /etc/asound.state file, run alsamixer again, and then run alsactl store Locate a wave file and try playing that from the command line. What happens aplay file.wav - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Tony Holly Bostick wrote: John Jolet schreef: On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote: Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are silent. I'm kinda mystified. If xmms plays, then your sound is obviously working. If KDE system sounds are not playing, there could be 3 reasons that I can think of: 1) arts (the kde sound server) is not enabled. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=Sound System; is the checkbox for 'enable sound system' checked? Is the correct sound system selected in the 'Hardware' tab? It's not much use to tell KDE to pipe aRTs through ESD if you don't have ESD running) 2) system sounds are turned off. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=System Notifications. Is the checkbox and drop-down menu to turn all sounds off perhaps enabled? Secondarily, try selecting an event that has a sound attached. Does the 'Play sound' checkbox become checked? If you test the sound using the little 'Play' button next to the filename, can you hear it? 3) KMix is set to override alsamixer settings on login, and it (KMix) is muted (KMix does not use or refer to the alsamixer settings, but rather its own. It's very annoying, and why I avoided it during my brief time using KDE). This can be fixed by running KMix and either unmuting the appropriate channels if muted, or setting KMix not to override the ALSA mixer settings on startup, or by setting KMix not to start at all at login. Hope this helps, Holly -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:48:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Yep. As long as a KDE application doesn't have an audio interface of its own, it uses arts for audio output. If arts isn't available, it will not be able to output sound. You can also configure KDE to use an external player for system sounds Control Centre - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications - Player Options -- Neil Bothwick There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't. pgptMLV5pvHCS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:48:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Yep. As long as a KDE application doesn't have an audio interface of its own, it uses arts for audio output. If arts isn't available, it will not be able to output sound. You can also configure KDE to use an external player for system sounds Control Centre - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications - Player Options This didn't work for me. Tried both aplay and alsaplayer. Neither helped. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config
I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? Thanks for the assistance. John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:04 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa config I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading through the alsa configuration. when I run alsaconf, it recognizes the card in the system (intel8x0), but after I select it, I get a dialog that says: Configuring snd-*** Do you want to modify err? Configuring [lib/liblow.c(329)]: Do you want to modify /etc/modules.d/alsa? hmm. any input is appreciated. John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
Hi, I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? you only need the alsa drivers if * you're still on 2.4 kernels * you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it. Check the following: * The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa * Mine contains something like alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss options snd device_mode=0666 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files. After this, try /etc/init.d/alsasound restart Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. Best regards good luck, ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this: Loading ALSA modules ... Loading snd-card-0 ... FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.[!!] Loading snd=seq-oss ... [OK] Loading snd-pcm-oss ... [OK] ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers [OK] Restoring mixer levels ... [OK] yes, that's an underscore in the FATAL message (and, of course, after this, alsamixer fails) Any input is greatly appreciated. John D -Original Message- From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:31 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config Hi, I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? you only need the alsa drivers if * you're still on 2.4 kernels * you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it. Check the following: * The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa * Mine contains something like alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss options snd device_mode=0666 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files. After this, try /etc/init.d/alsasound restart Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. Best regards good luck, ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this: Loading ALSA modules ... Loading snd-card-0 ... FATAL: Module snd_*** not found. [!!] Just checking the obvious: Is the module for your sound card compiled and installed? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
On Saturday August 20 2005 2:42 pm, John Dangler wrote: my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I had the same problem (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support enabled), after fixing my alsa file I couldn't track down where the call for the snd-*** was coming from. My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then rerunning alsaconf. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
John Dangler wrote: I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? [...] -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:04 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa config I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading through As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in the kernel *not* both. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml for more info. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.[!!] this means your kernel did not build this module. I wonder because it's needed on many machines with an onboard chipset. Well, there are two possibilities, enable this module in the kernel, rebuild and install the modules (attention, this will delete all nvidia or vmware modules), or try building this driver manually and copy it over to the modules directory. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in the kernel *not* both. at least it's a mess of you do both. Some people who always want the latest audio drivers don't use the kernel drivers but always use the latest alsa-driver packages, but for common desktop audio, there's no need for alsa-driver. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
My .config has - CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m John D -Original Message- From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this: Loading ALSA modules ... Loading snd-card-0 ... FATAL: Module snd_*** not found. [!!] Just checking the obvious: Is the module for your sound card compiled and installed? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config
So, is the solution to unmerge the alsa-driver ? Thanks for the response John D -Original Message- From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:32 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in the kernel *not* both. at least it's a mess of you do both. Some people who always want the latest audio drivers don't use the kernel drivers but always use the latest alsa-driver packages, but for common desktop audio, there's no need for alsa-driver. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config
As I said earlier, I think I goofed here. if I want to use the kernel compiled module, will I resolve it by unmerging the alsa-driver ? Thanks for the input. John D -Original Message- From: Nagatoro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:19 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config John Dangler wrote: I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? [...] -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:04 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa config I have alsa configured into the kernel, but I think I goofed reading through As I've understood it you either use alsa-driver *or* configure it in the kernel *not* both. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml for more info. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Joe~ (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support enabled), My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then rerunning alsaconf. if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ? wouldn't that cause the same problem to occur twice? Thanks for the input. John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:18 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help On Saturday August 20 2005 2:42 pm, John Dangler wrote: my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I had the same problem (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support enabled), after fixing my alsa file I couldn't track down where the call for the snd-*** was coming from. My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then rerunning alsaconf. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
On Saturday August 20 2005 4:27 pm, John Dangler wrote: if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ? wouldn't that cause the same problem to occur twice? Thanks for the input. My recompiled kernel didn't have alsa built-in, it was compiled as a module. Which is what alsaconf expects. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Joe~ That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m) John Dangler GenoFit 800-505-4078 (Corporate) 386-767-3730 (Direct) www.genofit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:40 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help On Saturday August 20 2005 4:27 pm, John Dangler wrote: if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ? wouldn't that cause the same problem to occur twice? Thanks for the input. My recompiled kernel didn't have alsa built-in, it was compiled as a module. Which is what alsaconf expects. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote: Joe~ That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m) Just peeked at my config, looks like alsa also has to be modular, as well. # Advanced Linux Sound Architecture # CONFIG_SND=m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Yep. That's what mine has as well. I did try modprobe intel8x0 and got this: FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found I appreciate your assistance. This is the last thing to get the basic system running... :) Since both the driver and the kernel compile can't cooperate when both are on the system, I was wondering if unmerging the alsa-driver, re-compile the kernel with the existing sound modules, and then re-running alsaconf wouldn't fix this (?) John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:22 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote: Joe~ That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m) Just peeked at my config, looks like alsa also has to be modular, as well. # Advanced Linux Sound Architecture # CONFIG_SND=m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:59:46 -0400 My .config has - CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m and lsmod shows it as loaded, right? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 16:59 -0400, John Dangler wrote: My .config has - CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m John D but does the modules exist? search under /lib/modules`uname-r` or zgrep /proc/config.gz -Original Message- From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this: Loading ALSA modules ... Loading snd-card-0 ... FATAL: Module snd_*** not found. [!!] Just checking the obvious: Is the module for your sound card compiled and installed? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
So, is the solution to unmerge the alsa-driver ? if you have the needed drivers compiled in the kernel, then yes, unmergin alsa driver will reduce the confusion, nothing else :) . Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Yep. That's what mine has as well. I did try modprobe intel8x0 and got this: FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found note that *all* ALSA modules are prefixed by snd_. The correct command reads as modprobe snd_intel8x0. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Mike~ As a matter of fact, no. all the other snd_ modules show, but not intel8x0 Thanks for the assistance. This is beginning to give me a slight headache... John D -Original Message- From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:44 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:59:46 -0400 My .config has - CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m and lsmod shows it as loaded, right? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
Nick~ I found an instance of the module here - /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko Curiously enough, there is also this file located here - /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko lspci shows the multimedia controller as Intel AC'97 ... Thanks for the assistance. I'd like to get this resolved... John D -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:51 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 16:59 -0400, John Dangler wrote: My .config has - CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m John D but does the modules exist? search under /lib/modules`uname-r` or zgrep /proc/config.gz -Original Message- From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:42:05 -0400 my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf) alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: I changed it to alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this: Loading ALSA modules ... Loading snd-card-0 ... FATAL: Module snd_*** not found. [!!] Just checking the obvious: Is the module for your sound card compiled and installed? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko Curiously enough, there is also this file located here - /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko just a guess: The intel should be AC 97 compliant, but it is well known that standards are there to be beaten. Maybe the intel chip doesn't conform enough to AC 97 so it git its own module... Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
On Saturday August 20 2005 6:13 pm, John Dangler wrote: Mike~ As a matter of fact, no. all the other snd_ modules show, but not intel8x0 Thanks for the assistance. This is beginning to give me a slight headache... You will still need alsa-drivers if you have built snd_intel8x0 as a module. You just need to get the module installed, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :) I would try running make make modules_install from your kernel sources directory. Then try modprobe snd_intel8x0 again. If that turns up ok, run alsaconf again and you should be all set. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
From:: John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:17:36 -0400 Nick~ I found an instance of the module here - /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko Curiously enough, there is also this file located here - /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko lspci shows the multimedia controller as Intel AC'97 ... It seems that intel8x0 is your driver: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intelcard=.chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820module=intel8x0 Remove the module (which does not appear to have been installed, or loaded) reconfigure your kernel and built it in (not as a module), reboot and see what dmesg gives you. If you follow carefully the alsa guide you 'should' get there. -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote: Hi, I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason. do I need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ? you only need the alsa drivers if * you're still on 2.4 kernels * you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it. Check the following: * The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa * Mine contains something like alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss options snd device_mode=0666 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files. After this, try /etc/init.d/alsasound restart Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. Best regards good luck, ce I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are silent. I'm kinda mystified. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
John Jolet schreef: On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote: Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master is open and PCM is unmuted and open. I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are silent. I'm kinda mystified. If xmms plays, then your sound is obviously working. If KDE system sounds are not playing, there could be 3 reasons that I can think of: 1) arts (the kde sound server) is not enabled. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=Sound System; is the checkbox for 'enable sound system' checked? Is the correct sound system selected in the 'Hardware' tab? It's not much use to tell KDE to pipe aRTs through ESD if you don't have ESD running) 2) system sounds are turned off. You can check this in kcontrol=Sound and Multimedia=System Notifications. Is the checkbox and drop-down menu to turn all sounds off perhaps enabled? Secondarily, try selecting an event that has a sound attached. Does the 'Play sound' checkbox become checked? If you test the sound using the little 'Play' button next to the filename, can you hear it? 3) KMix is set to override alsamixer settings on login, and it (KMix) is muted (KMix does not use or refer to the alsamixer settings, but rather its own. It's very annoying, and why I avoided it during my brief time using KDE). This can be fixed by running KMix and either unmuting the appropriate channels if muted, or setting KMix not to override the ALSA mixer settings on startup, or by setting KMix not to start at all at login. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
