Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This was working just fine:
 
 kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
 
 Now
 kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
 fail with
 
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol:
  resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 
 
 Is there any fix already?


Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will have to wait 
for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.

There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info. Search 
for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly marked)



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This was working just fine:
 
 kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
 
 Now
 kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
 fail with
 
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol:
  resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 
 
 Is there any fix already?
 
 
 Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will have to 
 wait 
 for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.
 
 There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info. Search 
 for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly marked)
 

Thanks for pointing this out to me.
There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well,
it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5

(I for myself stepped back to the radeonhd driver for my ATI card
which works with xorg-server-1.7.1)

Helmut.


-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:12:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This was working just fine:
 
 kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
 
 Now
 kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
 fail with
 
 (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol:
  resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 
 
 Is there any fix already?
 
 
 Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will have
to
 wait 
 for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.
 
 There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info.
 Search 
 for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly marked)

There's a thread in the forum as well. Searching for fglrx it's the first
one right now, though it's titled towards nvidia. But just look inside.
there are instructions on how to revert back. However, the following rule
always holds true if you are using fglrx (and to some extent, the nvidia
driver): before updating your system, check if there's any important update
for X, and if so, please, always triple check in the forum and the web that
the new X release is supported by your drivers.

At least for fglrx, this is almost never true so the regular procedure is
to mask the packages that are about to be updated, and check again when a
new ati-drivers revision is in place.
-- 
Jesús Guerrero



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 28 Oct, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
 There's a thread in the forum as well. Searching for fglrx it's the first
 one right now, though it's titled towards nvidia. But just look inside.
 there are instructions on how to revert back. However, the following rule
 always holds true if you are using fglrx (and to some extent, the nvidia
 driver): before updating your system, check if there's any important update
 for X, and if so, please, always triple check in the forum and the web that
 the new X release is supported by your drivers.
 
 At least for fglrx, this is almost never true so the regular procedure is
 to mask the packages that are about to be updated, and check again when a
 new ati-drivers revision is in place.

The 9.10 release of ati-drivers is quite recent and appered after
xorg-server-1.7.0 so I had some hope.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This was working just fine:
 
  kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
 
  Now
  kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
  fail with
 
  (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
  dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol:
   resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 
 
  Is there any fix already?
 
  Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will have to
  wait for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.
 
  There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info.
  Search for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly marked)
 
 Thanks for pointing this out to me.
 There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well,
 it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5

not that easy ... now there's an understatement :-)

The nvidia drivers sensibly block the latest xorg-server.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Thanks for pointing this out to me.
  There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well,
  it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5  
 
 not that easy ... now there's an understatement :-)

But doable, as I spent some time discovering yesterday.
x11-drivers/xf86-video-psb is also affected

 The nvidia drivers sensibly block the latest xorg-server.

At least my desktop kept working.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it
considered a hostage situation?


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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This was working just fine:
 
  kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
 
  Now
  kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
  fail with
 
  (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
  dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined
  symbol:
   resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
 
 
  Is there any fix already?
 
  Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will
have
  to
  wait for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.
 
  There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info.
  Search for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly
marked)
 
 Thanks for pointing this out to me.
 There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well,
 it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5
 
 not that easy ... now there's an understatement :-)

Well, it's truly not for the newbie, but it's not complicated either.
After all, you are using ~arch, so.

 The nvidia drivers sensibly block the latest xorg-server.

That's what blockers are for: they prevent incompatible packages from
being installed together, right? So you can choose what action of course
you want to follow. At least your system keeps working instead of throwing
you to a text console and greeting you with an undefined symbol message.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:59:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:45:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  On 28 Oct, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   On Wednesday 28 October 2009 12:05:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
   Hi,
  
   This was working just fine:
  
   kernel 2.6.31-r3  + xorg-server-1.6.5 + ati-drivers-9.10
  
   Now
   kernel 2.6.31-r4  + xorg-server-1.7.1 + ati-drivers-9.10
   fail with
  
   (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
   dlopen: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined
   symbol:
resVgaShared (EE) Failed to load
/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
  
  
   Is there any fix already?
  
   Apparently not. The conflict lies in the ati drivers and you will
 
 have
 
   to
   wait for ATI to support xorg-1.7 before upgrading.
  
   There's a bug  on b.g.o. which I read last night that has more info.
   Search for xorg-server, it's near the end of the list (clearly
 
 marked)
 
  Thanks for pointing this out to me.
  There should be a warning, since, as many others found out, as well,
  it's not that easier to step back to xorg-server-1.6.5
 
  not that easy ... now there's an understatement :-)
 
 Well, it's truly not for the newbie, but it's not complicated either.
 After all, you are using ~arch, so.

for me it was true horror because libxtst refused to build. I downgraded all 
the headers, and it failed and failed and failed.

Until I remembered that I have packages for everything usepkg can make 
life so much easier.



Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-9.10 don't cooperate with xorg-server-7.1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 28 Oct, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
  There's a thread in the forum as well. Searching for fglrx it's the first
  one right now, though it's titled towards nvidia. But just look inside.
  there are instructions on how to revert back. However, the following rule
  always holds true if you are using fglrx (and to some extent, the nvidia
  driver): before updating your system, check if there's any important
  update for X, and if so, please, always triple check in the forum and the
  web that the new X release is supported by your drivers.
 
  At least for fglrx, this is almost never true so the regular procedure is
  to mask the packages that are about to be updated, and check again when a
  new ati-drivers revision is in place.
 
 The 9.10 release of ati-drivers is quite recent and appered after
 xorg-server-1.7.0 so I had some hope.
 
 Helmut.
 

there is a three month dev cycle and they only work with released software. So 
January is a fair guess. Maybe February. Unluckily Ubuntu is not using this X 
version or they would have been a bit quicker ;)