Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko 
Hi,

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 11:49:41 -0700 Joseph wrote:
 I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd
 But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev which 
 conflicts with systemd.
 
 Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge systemd.  I'm not planning on 
 switching to systemd after recent experience.  So I was planning on avoiding 
 it but I don't know 
 if I can.

You can add openrc-force US flag to your make.conf. This way you will
drop systemd dependency, though you may loose some run-time
functionality of gnome.

Other alternative is to add sys-apps/systemd to package.provided,
though the effect will be the same as above.

And you may switch to some other DE/WM of course.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-08 Thread Greg Woodbury 
On 02/06/2014 01:49 PM, Joseph wrote:
 I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd
 But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev
 which conflicts with systemd.

How about using XFCE?  I think the last time I installed it it did not
force use of systemd; it also can use many GNOME tools and apps if you
really need GNOME.

I personally got tired of GNOME and its toomany/toomajor change policies
and went to KDE (just like Linus Torvalds.)  In KDE there is a slightly
different method of configuring things that may take a bit of getting
used to.

I thought there was a MATE overlay but I can't easily find it right now.

-- 
G. Wolfe Woodbury
Gentoo KDE user
redwo...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-08 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés 
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
 I personally got tired of GNOME and its toomany/toomajor change policies
 and went to KDE (just like Linus Torvalds.)

Not that it matters for anything, but Linus uses GNOME [1] (unless he
changed again since last June).

Regards.

[1] 
http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop-712083/
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés 
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd
 But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev
 which conflicts with systemd.

 Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge systemd.  I'm not planning on
 switching to systemd after recent experience.  So I was planning on avoiding
 it but I don't know if I can.

 emerge -1avq gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
 * Last emerge --sync was 45d 2h 15m 32s ago.
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2  USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev
 introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt
 -http -lzma -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr
 PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 [ebuild  N]
 sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 [uninstall]
 sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3 [blocks b ] =sys-apps/systemd-197
 (=sys-apps/systemd-197 is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3)
 [blocks b ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname (sys-auth/nss-myhostname is
 blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
 [uninstall] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1  USE=-systemd [ebuild   R
 ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1  USE=colord cups i18n policykit
 short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force) (-packagekit) {-test}
 INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is
 blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd (sys-apps/systemd is blocking
 sys-fs/udev-208, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-208-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/systemd required by
 (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
 merge)



 =sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?]

 (=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod])
 required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed)
=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
 (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-fs/udev required by @selected

You need to specify the openrc-force USE flag for
gnome-settings-daemon. Be aware that this is not really supported, you
will have reduced functionality, and somethings will probably fail.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México