Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. found this: https://twitter.com/schmichael/status/262982638653022208
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. found this: https://twitter.com/schmichael/status/262982638653022208 Thanks for sharing it; I had no idea that was available. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. found this: https://twitter.com/schmichael/status/262982638653022208 For the sake of mailing list archives, that's: Aha! mouse-button-modifier changed from Alt to Super in Gnome 3.6 (at least on Ubuntu 12.10). That took forever to figure out. - Michael Schurter @schmichael -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
Am 28.12.2012 01:23, schrieb Randolph Maaßen: Maybe interesting to read: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ I think we had this before in the list Thanks for that pointer ... interesting read. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: greets ... today (at least in my timezone ;-) ) I saw gnome-3.6-related ebuilds coming up on my ~amd64 box ... I ran a backup (yes, experience ...) and emerged stuff ... so far it runs OK. There are changes and new features and I am still exploring stuff. The general question: is it a bug or a feature? ;-) for example Alt-leftclick doesn't allow me to move windows right now. bug? No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. What I'd like to discuss: how to start over for a given user? For example, I want to get rid of old stuff from gnome-1.x/2.x or so (I think of my ~-directory, not the overall system). Or even bigger, does it make sense to drop stuff from all those dot-directories in ~ from time to time (e.g. at bigger GUI-upgrades) and only keep some important ones? For example I would keep core stuff like .gnupg .ssh .bashrc .thunderbird (in my case) ... but I am sure there is loads of stuff to get rid of. Maybe most of it doesn't make a difference (hdd-space is cheap anyways) and isn't even read anymore by recent versions of software. But maybe some files/dirs should get dumped and forgotten. Do you gentoo-users have any opinions on this? Does it make any sense to re-create my main user(-dir)? I started over with a clean $HOME, and I moved back the non-GNOME stuff (.ssh, .gnupg, .bash*, etc). But maybe it was overkill. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. I *liked* the old way ... is there any explanation why removing this improves things? How is it supposed to work now? Sorry, I could browse docs, sure ... I started over with a clean $HOME, and I moved back the non-GNOME stuff (.ssh, .gnupg, .bash*, etc). But maybe it was overkill. Thanks for sharing. I will maybe try that tomorrow (late here). usermod -l ... ? ;-) S
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
2012/12/28 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at Am 28.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: No, it works that way. You could changed in previous versions with the /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier key in gconftool-2, but now it's gone. I don't know if anyone is working on bring it back. I *liked* the old way ... is there any explanation why removing this improves things? How is it supposed to work now? Sorry, I could browse docs, sure ... I can't tell you how the window move works now. The old way of configuring was removed and won't be included in the new 3.X branch anymore, Somehow the GNOME people don't like that the user can configure his/her GNOME experience. They want that every GNOME 3 looks and feels the same. Maybe interesting to read: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ I think we had this before in the list I started over with a clean $HOME, and I moved back the non-GNOME stuff (.ssh, .gnupg, .bash*, etc). But maybe it was overkill. Thanks for sharing. I will maybe try that tomorrow (late here). usermod -l ... ? ;-) S -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Randolph Maaßen
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
Re 50DCE1AD.9060400@xunil.at50DCE1AD.9060400@xunil.atCADPrc829HM4216VAaPb3HSq4mcUT52JDpzfxAEpuT6W4ZFe_Ng@mail.gmail.com50dcc1bb.4080...@xunil.at, Randolph Maaßen said: Maybe interesting to read: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ I think we had this before in the list Thank goodness for XFCE. I ditched Gnome at 3.0. Well, I was using XFCE even before that but still had gnome installed for other users of my system. Now, everyone uses XFCE. That's my own BOFH attitude right now. :) -- Keith -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3.6 ... and related thoughts
Am 28.12.2012 01:02, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I *liked* the old way ... is there any explanation why removing this improves things? How is it supposed to work now? That's the sane question to ask, unfortunately you won't get a real answer from the GNOME developers themselves. They are still happy for mistreating the desktop as a tablet and to continue alienating their loyal user base with that shitty piece of crap they call GNOME 3.X, praising themselves still that every remove of a beloved feature is a mile stone in terms of usability and not facing the reality. Also knowing better than the user himself what bells and whistles he needs to configure his computer and not has also a long tradition in GNOME. It is really no wonder, that quite some major distributions ditched GNOME 3.X vanilla either for their own homegrown stuff or MATE/Cinnamon. So it is really no wonder either, that GNOME 3.X ruined it for a large part of their former user base and they switched to other desktop environments.
