Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 12/01/2011 22:48, Stroller a écrit :
 On 12/1/2011, at 6:14pm, Jacques Montier wrote:
 ...
 after chroot, i can install every package except grub in /boot.
 I get the message : your boot partition, detected as being mounted as
 /boot, is read-only.
 Remounting it in read-write mode ...
 Then the error message : failed to create symbolic link `//boot/boot` :
 Read-only file system.
 Have you tried rebooting and chrooting in again?

 It sound like maybe (wild-ass guess) you forgot to do the `mount -t proc proc 
 /mnt/gentoo/proc  mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev` part or something 
 like this.

 Stroller.


What i did this morning :
- boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom.

I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so :
- mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo
- mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot
- mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr
- mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home
- mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
- mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
- cd /mnt/gentoo
- chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
- emerge grub

So grub-0.97-r10 is installed, but grub can't create grub directory
beause of read-only boot partition...


I tried

- export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT
- emerge grub

But no success...

--
Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale

Jacques Montier wrote:


What i did this morning :
- boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom.

I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so :
- mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo
- mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot
- mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr
- mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home
- mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
- mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
- cd /mnt/gentoo
- chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
- emerge grub

So grub-0.97-r10 is installed, but grub can't create grub directory
beause of read-only boot partition...


I tried

- export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT
- emerge grub

But no success...

--
Jacques

   


Try typing in mount with no options and see what it says.  Does it say 
it is mounted (rw) or (ro)?  Does the file system match what you 
formatted it with?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit :
 Jacques Montier wrote:

 What i did this morning :
 - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom.

 I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so :
 - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo
 - mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot
 - mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr
 - mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home
 - mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
 - mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
 - cd /mnt/gentoo
 - chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
 - emerge grub

 So grub-0.97-r10 is installed, but grub can't create grub directory
 beause of read-only boot partition...


 I tried

 - export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT
 - emerge grub

 But no success...

 -- 
 Jacques



 Try typing in mount with no options and see what it says.  Does it say
 it is mounted (rw) or (ro)?  Does the file system match what you
 formatted it with?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

It's strange.
When i mount the boot partition /dev/sda3, this one is (rw) ; i make
test directory with success.
As soon as i run emerge grub, the boot partition become (ro) and can't
create directory ; i can't make test directory anymore.
So i tried something very dirty ...
I unmounted the boot partition, so the boot directory in / is empty.
I emerge grub with success and get the grub directory i could backup.
I mount the boot partition et copy the grub directory into /boot.
I edit the grub.conf and it works ; Gentoo's booting...
It works but i don't like the process at all...
It's the first time i encount such a problem about grub.

--
Jacques






Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale

Jacques Montier wrote:

Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit :
   

Jacques Montier wrote:
 

What i did this morning :
- boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom.

I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so :
- mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo
- mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot
- mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr
- mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home
- mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
- mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
- cd /mnt/gentoo
- chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
- emerge grub

So grub-0.97-r10 is installed, but grub can't create grub directory
beause of read-only boot partition...


I tried

- export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT
- emerge grub

But no success...

--
Jacques


   

Try typing in mount with no options and see what it says.  Does it say
it is mounted (rw) or (ro)?  Does the file system match what you
formatted it with?

Dale

:-)  :-)

 

It's strange.
When i mount the boot partition /dev/sda3, this one is (rw) ; i make
test directory with success.
As soon as i run emerge grub, the boot partition become (ro) and can't
create directory ; i can't make test directory anymore.
So i tried something very dirty ...
I unmounted the boot partition, so the boot directory in / is empty.
I emerge grub with success and get the grub directory i could backup.
I mount the boot partition et copy the grub directory into /boot.
I edit the grub.conf and it works ; Gentoo's booting...
It works but i don't like the process at all...
It's the first time i encount such a problem about grub.

--
Jacques

   


I'm glad you got it working but something is not right somewhere.  I 
would try to emerge grub, install and all that again to make sure 
everything is stable.  Also, when you are booted into Gentoo, not the 
CD, type in the mount command and see if it shows it is mounted 
properly.  Sort of give things a good testing.  I would hate for this to 
come back and bite you later on.


I'm not sure if it is grub or not but something is fishy somewhere.  
Grub has been stable for a long time.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 11:36, Dale a écrit :
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit :
   
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 
 What i did this morning :
 - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom.

 I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so :
 - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo
 - mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot
 - mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr
 - mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home
 - mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
 - mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
 - cd /mnt/gentoo
 - chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
 - emerge grub

 So grub-0.97-r10 is installed, but grub can't create grub directory
 beause of read-only boot partition...


 I tried

 - export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT
 - emerge grub

 But no success...

 -- 
 Jacques



 Try typing in mount with no options and see what it says.  Does it say
 it is mounted (rw) or (ro)?  Does the file system match what you
 formatted it with?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

  
 It's strange.
 When i mount the boot partition /dev/sda3, this one is (rw) ; i make
 test directory with success.
 As soon as i run emerge grub, the boot partition become (ro) and can't
 create directory ; i can't make test directory anymore.
 So i tried something very dirty ...
 I unmounted the boot partition, so the boot directory in / is empty.
 I emerge grub with success and get the grub directory i could backup.
 I mount the boot partition et copy the grub directory into /boot.
 I edit the grub.conf and it works ; Gentoo's booting...
 It works but i don't like the process at all...
 It's the first time i encount such a problem about grub.

 -- 
 Jacques



 I'm glad you got it working but something is not right somewhere.  I
 would try to emerge grub, install and all that again to make sure
 everything is stable.  Also, when you are booted into Gentoo, not the
 CD, type in the mount command and see if it shows it is mounted
 properly.  Sort of give things a good testing.  I would hate for this
 to come back and bite you later on.

 I'm not sure if it is grub or not but something is fishy somewhere. 
 Grub has been stable for a long time.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
mounted and now it works !
I don't understand...


Jacques





Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale

Jacques Montier wrote:


I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
mounted and now it works !
I don't understand...


Jacques

   


I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD you booted?  I recently 
booted systemrescue CD and it worked fine but I didn't try to install 
grub.  I think I used Knoppix for my install.  About any of those should 
work tho.


The only thing I can think of is some difference in the file system 
utilities, kernel the CD uses or something like that.  Maybe someone 
will come along with more ideas.  Whatever it is, we do need to figure 
it out.  If it is some sort of bug, it needs to be fixed.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote:
 Jacques Montier wrote:
  I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
  mounted and now it works !
  I don't understand...
  
  
  Jacques
 
 I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD you booted?  I recently
 booted systemrescue CD and it worked fine but I didn't try to install
 grub.  I think I used Knoppix for my install.  About any of those should
 work tho.
 
 The only thing I can think of is some difference in the file system
 utilities, kernel the CD uses or something like that.  Maybe someone
 will come along with more ideas.  Whatever it is, we do need to figure
 it out.  If it is some sort of bug, it needs to be fixed.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)

Dale, 

You might be on to something here. :)

Jacques, which CD did you boot from? And where did you get the ISO from?

I tend to use the ISO-images from gentoo.org and haven't noticed this issue 
myself before.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit :
 On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote:
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
 mounted and now it works !
 I don't understand...


 Jacques
 I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD you booted?  I recently
 booted systemrescue CD and it worked fine but I didn't try to install
 grub.  I think I used Knoppix for my install.  About any of those should
 work tho.

 The only thing I can think of is some difference in the file system
 utilities, kernel the CD uses or something like that.  Maybe someone
 will come along with more ideas.  Whatever it is, we do need to figure
 it out.  If it is some sort of bug, it needs to be fixed.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 Dale, 

 You might be on to something here. :)

 Jacques, which CD did you boot from? And where did you get the ISO from?

 I tend to use the ISO-images from gentoo.org and haven't noticed this issue 
 myself before.

 --
 Joost

I booted from sysrescueCD and i didn't use any iso but stage3*.tar.bz2
and latest portage*.tar.bz2 from French Gentoo mirror.
Then i follwed the Gentoo manual as usual.


--
Jacques





Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Mick
On 13 January 2011 16:17, Jacques Montier
jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote:
 Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit :
 On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote:
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
 mounted and now it works !
 I don't understand...

For next time you want to chroot:

First mount /dev/sdaX /mnt gentoo and then mount /proc and /dev just
like the manual says.

After that mount all the other partitions.

You would not have a problem with /boot.

This is because /proc contains info on environment variables and
devices mounted, hardware configuration, etc Without it the kernel
functionality is not complete and errors will show up sooner or later.
 Ditto with /dev.
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 17:41, Mick a écrit :
 On 13 January 2011 16:17, Jacques Montier
 jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote:
 Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit :
 On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote:
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition
 mounted and now it works !
 I don't understand...
 For next time you want to chroot:

 First mount /dev/sdaX /mnt gentoo and then mount /proc and /dev just
 like the manual says.

 After that mount all the other partitions.

 You would not have a problem with /boot.

 This is because /proc contains info on environment variables and
 devices mounted, hardware configuration, etc Without it the kernel
 functionality is not complete and errors will show up sooner or later.
  Ditto with /dev.
Ok, now i understand YES !
Thank you very much to all of you !
After complete installation (i just got X working), i backup and then i
try as you said.

Cheers,

--
Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-12 Thread Stroller

On 12/1/2011, at 6:14pm, Jacques Montier wrote:
 ...
 after chroot, i can install every package except grub in /boot.
 I get the message : your boot partition, detected as being mounted as
 /boot, is read-only.
 Remounting it in read-write mode ...
 Then the error message : failed to create symbolic link `//boot/boot` :
 Read-only file system.

Have you tried rebooting and chrooting in again?

It sound like maybe (wild-ass guess) you forgot to do the `mount -t proc proc 
/mnt/gentoo/proc  mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev` part or something like 
this.

Stroller.