Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
* Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. ^ Are completely sure that this is a question mark? This is enough for me to lose trust in UDF for hybrid CD/DVDs :( 1993-1997 Eric Youngdale (C) 1997-2008 Jörg Schilling ^^ Because this indicates some problems with your locale and question marks are often used if a charakter can't be displayed correctly. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpslkKvJlFid.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. ^ Are completely sure that this is a question mark? ls converts control characters into question marks unless -b is specified. -- Andrey Vul
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. ^ Are completely sure that this is a question mark? ls converts control characters into question marks unless -b is specified. ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. This is enough for me to lose trust in UDF for hybrid CD/DVDs :( mkisofs command: mkisofs -o fin2k9.iso -udf -iso-level 4 -V Finale 2009 /mnt/iso0 /mnt/iso0 is an hfs+ mountpoint from fin2k9.dmg mkisofs version: mkisofs 2.01.01a42 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1993-1997 Eric Youngdale (C) 1997-2008 JÃ?rg Schilling Use cdrtools-2.01.01a50 ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ The current version no longer enforces silly Microsoft rules on UDF in case that the image does not contain Joliet too. Note that in order to get Apple extensions, you of course need to specify the related options to mkisofs. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. ^ Are completely sure that this is a question mark? ls converts control characters into question marks unless -b is specified. ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do. Still, ls -Ab on the dmg file does not match ls -Ab on the remastered ISO. I.e.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -b /mnt/iso0/InstallFinale.app/ Contents Icon\r [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -b /mnt/iso1/InstallFinale.app/ Contents Icon_ , where /mnt/iso1 is the folowing: mkisofs -o fin2k9.iso -udf -iso-level 4 -V Finale 2009 /mnt/iso0 sudo mount fin2k9.iso /mnt/iso1 -o loop Unless there's a mkisofs option that does not convert low ASCII to _, I'm stuck to using HFS+ (since I have paths 31 characters). -- Andrey Vul
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Andrey Vul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26.09.08 04:45]: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. ^ Are completely sure that this is a question mark? ls converts control characters into question marks unless -b is specified. ls does not mark \r this way, gls may do. Still, ls -Ab on the dmg file does not match ls -Ab on the remastered ISO. Ignore what I said. However, I raise a new question: is it a) -a50 vs. -a42 b) -no-hfs that allows control chars / Apple extensions to be used in UDF? -- Andrey Vul -- Andrey Vul
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, but I still see no reason why HFS+ is required. Have you mastered OS X install CD/DVDs using AppleUDF and have them behave identically to HFS+ CD/DVDs? Did you? Why do your answers look as if you were unwilling to even give it a try? Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is supposed to show Icon?. UDF image shows Icon_ instead. This is enough for me to lose trust in UDF for hybrid CD/DVDs :( mkisofs command: mkisofs -o fin2k9.iso -udf -iso-level 4 -V Finale 2009 /mnt/iso0 /mnt/iso0 is an hfs+ mountpoint from fin2k9.dmg mkisofs version: mkisofs 2.01.01a42 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1993-1997 Eric Youngdale (C) 1997-2008 Jörg Schilling -- Andrey Vul
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a hdiutil clone for Linux? mkisofs lacks HFS+ support and my SSE3-capable computer is still compiling KDE. It will take a long while to get OSX inside VMware working. Why do you believe that you need HFS+ at all? mkisofs supports Apple MAC UDF extensions since Spring 2007. Just have a look at the man page and use the same options as you would use to create HFS but in addition add: -UDFto enable a non-anonymous UDF hybrid file system -no-hfs to turn off creating a ISO9660/HFS hybrid when UDF based Mac OS extensions are used. This uses code that was developped by the German Company Helios that is specialized on selling self created SunOS (and now also others) based file servers to turn off creating a ISO9660/HFS hybrid when UDF based Mac OS extensions are used for Apple products since more than 20 years. As Helios uses mkisofs and it's UDF MAC extensions for backups, this could be called the only known mature solution. P.S. make sure you are not using the outdated mkisofs clone from Debian. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a hdiutil clone for Linux? mkisofs lacks HFS+ support and my SSE3-capable computer is still compiling KDE. It will take a long while to get OSX inside VMware working. Why do you believe that you need HFS+ at all? Because I have paths which exceed the HFS limit and lead to truncation, in addition to symlinks. Both work incorrectly. E.g., HFS+ directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale 2009 HFS directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale I want my remastered (backup) to look exactly like the original: Joliet(or ISO9660:1999) for Windows and HFS+ for OS X. mkisofs supports Apple MAC UDF extensions since Spring 2007. UDF != HFS+ -- Andrey Vul
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you believe that you need HFS+ at all? Because I have paths which exceed the HFS limit and lead to truncation, in addition to symlinks. Both work incorrectly. E.g., HFS+ directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale 2009 HFS directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale No problem for UDF! I want my remastered (backup) to look exactly like the original: Joliet(or ISO9660:1999) for Windows and HFS+ for OS X. mkisofs supports Apple MAC UDF extensions since Spring 2007. UDF != HFS+ Correct, but I still see no reason why HFS+ is required. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you believe that you need HFS+ at all? Because I have paths which exceed the HFS limit and lead to truncation, in addition to symlinks. Both work incorrectly. E.g., HFS+ directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale 2009 HFS directory name: Garritan Instruments for Finale No problem for UDF! I want my remastered (backup) to look exactly like the original: Joliet(or ISO9660:1999) for Windows and HFS+ for OS X. mkisofs supports Apple MAC UDF extensions since Spring 2007. UDF != HFS+ Correct, but I still see no reason why HFS+ is required. Have you mastered OS X install CD/DVDs using AppleUDF and have them behave identically to HFS+ CD/DVDs? Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- Andrey Vul
