Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at writes: Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org: http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files I will have to review some of my files then ;-) What I did not understand from reading that is why he (or gentoo policy) does not like 'type=forking'. Reading the systemd man files, I thought that type=forking would be the natural choice for most daemons.
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at writes: Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org: http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files I will have to review some of my files then ;-) What I did not understand from reading that is why he (or gentoo policy) does not like 'type=forking'. Reading the systemd man files, I thought that type=forking would be the natural choice for most daemons. On the contrary; with Type=simple systemd has better control on the service, since systemd itself execv() the service binary, and it can know precisely its PID and when it finishes. With Type=forking systemd has to guess what the PID is, and therefore it nees more work to know the status of the service. It does a pretty good job, but it's easier with Type=simple. Type=forking is there for old daemons that don't have a --foreground or similar option. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM. The network never came up but when I logged in and started the network.service manually it worked. Strange. The mentioned service-file was the one here (my posting with /bin/ip): http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Systemd-and-static-network-td265801.html So I googled some more and used the more complex file from arch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Configuration#Manual_connection_at_boot_using_systemd With this the VM gets connected fine now. It's even more flexible as it allows to set up multiple NICs by simply creating the corresponding config-file in /etc/conf.d
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 28.08.2013 08:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM. The network never came up but when I logged in and started the network.service manually it worked. Strange. before you ask: yes, the service was enabled correctly (double-checked, redone ...)
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files? Filing bugs for every single file? Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to acknowledge the bug. I haven't done it myself with all the units I already have, I haven't gotten the time. Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org: http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files I will have to review some of my files then ;-) Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. It looks like openrc is supporting some version of this, but not very well documented at all except they refer you to some man page as of a certain date. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On 27/08/13 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. openrc-0.11.8 already had initial tmpfiles support, but it's very buggy however ~arch has now openrc-0.12, you could say, complete tmpfiles support and it's already being used at production level packages like sys-apps/kmod's kmod-static-nodes init script so the same tmpfiles systemd uses, will work fine on openrc-0.12 too, long as tmpfiles.setup is in the boot runlevel... - Samuli
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use tmpfiles.d how can I do this? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use tmpfiles.d how can I do this? chmod 777 /var/lock? I don't understand the question. What program do you need that requires universal writing access for /var/lock? In my systems, /var/lock is either bind mounted from /run/lock, or a soft link to /run/lock, and /run/lock is root:root and 755. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use tmpfiles.d how can I do this? chmod 777 /var/lock? I don't understand the question. What program do you need that requires universal writing access for /var/lock? In my systems, /var/lock is either bind mounted from /run/lock, or a soft link to /run/lock, and /run/lock is root:root and 755. I need regular users to put files in /var/lock and it is annoying to have to change the
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for gentoo ... pls post and share! Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use tmpfiles.d how can I do this? chmod 777 /var/lock? I don't understand the question. What program do you need that requires universal writing access for /var/lock? In my systems, /var/lock is either bind mounted from /run/lock, or a soft link to /run/lock, and /run/lock is root:root and 755. I need
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for gentoo ... pls post and share! This is my mysqld.service file used in production with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=mySQL Server After=network.target Documentation=man:mysqld(8) [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ExecStop=/bin/kill -15 $MAINPID PIDFile=/var/run/mysqld/mysql.pid Restart=always CPUSchedulingPolicy=idle CPUSchedulingPriority=0 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target You can omit/ignore the CPScheduling* entries (it runs in a very old machine, and I need mysql not to hog all the CPU). Also, I use this in /etc/tmpfiles.d/mysqld.conf: D /run/mysqld 0755 mysql mysql - - I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for gentoo ... pls post and share! This is my mysqld.service file used in production with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=mySQL Server After=network.target Documentation=man:mysqld(8) [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ExecStop=/bin/kill -15 $MAINPID PIDFile=/var/run/mysqld/mysql.pid Restart=always CPUSchedulingPolicy=idle CPUSchedulingPriority=0 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target You can omit/ignore the CPScheduling* entries (it runs in a very old machine, and I need mysql not to hog all the CPU). Also, I use this in /etc/tmpfiles.d/mysqld.conf: D /run/mysqld 0755 mysql mysql - - Shouldn't it be /var/run/mysqld ... ? I had a similar service-file still fiddling to make it work, nearly there. Thanks! I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check after mysqld ... Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for gentoo ... pls post and share! This is my mysqld.service file used in production with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=mySQL Server After=network.target Documentation=man:mysqld(8) [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ExecStop=/bin/kill -15 $MAINPID PIDFile=/var/run/mysqld/mysql.pid Restart=always CPUSchedulingPolicy=idle CPUSchedulingPriority=0 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target You can omit/ignore the CPScheduling* entries (it runs in a very old machine, and I need mysql not to hog all the CPU). Also, I use this in /etc/tmpfiles.d/mysqld.conf: D /run/mysqld 0755 mysql mysql - - Shouldn't it be /var/run/mysqld ... ? It doesn't matter; as per the discussion above, /var/run should be a bind mount of /run (the default in Gentoo), or a symbolic link to /run. In either case, /var/run/mysqld *is* /run/mysqld. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check after mysqld ... up and running after a reboot, both mysqld and mythbackend (recording already)! - Now for in.tftpd (needed for PXE-booting my mythtv-frontend). https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tftpd_server shows something, no success so far ... But libvirt and my qemu-kvm-guests already work as well, fine! Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check after mysqld ... up and running after a reboot, both mysqld and mythbackend (recording already)! - Now for in.tftpd (needed for PXE-booting my mythtv-frontend). https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tftpd_server shows something, no success so far ... Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ...
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ...
For the records:
# tftpd.service
[Unit]
Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS}
StandardInput=socket
StandardOutput=inherit
StandardError=journal
# tftpd.socket
[Socket]
ListenDatagram=69
[Install]
WantedBy=sockets.target
---
Next: NFS-server ;-) (for exporting stuff to the mythfrontend)
... googling again ...
Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files?
Filing bugs for every single file?
Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ...
For the records:
# tftpd.service
[Unit]
Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS}
StandardInput=socket
StandardOutput=inherit
StandardError=journal
# tftpd.socket
[Socket]
ListenDatagram=69
[Install]
WantedBy=sockets.target
---
Next: NFS-server ;-) (for exporting stuff to the mythfrontend)
... googling again ...
Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files?
Filing bugs for every single file?
Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd
team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to
acknowledge the bug.
I haven't done it myself with all the units I already have, I haven't
gotten the time.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ...
For the records:
# tftpd.service
[Unit]
Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS}
sorry, this is not working as intended.
The syntax does not match (I thought I could read the default config-file).
For now:
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /mnt/mypxe
S
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 19:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: For now: ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /mnt/mypxe And wrong again, it needs -s as well. Sorry for the noise! ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /mnt/mypxe - For NFS I copied most out of this Wiki: http://gentoo-en.vfose.ru/wiki/Systemd#NFS for now I only use the parts for NFSv3 server ... mythfrontend starts up right now! slowly getting there ...
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files? Filing bugs for every single file? Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to acknowledge the bug. I haven't done it myself with all the units I already have, I haven't gotten the time. Yes, I understand.
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? services and sockets for: in.tftpd libvirtd mythbackend mysqld nfs server vixie-cron While mythtv isn't really mainstream there are other daemons in this list that really *should* be supported with USE=systemd, I assume (sure, mythtv should get its file as well ...). For sure this migration wasn't really *necessary* for me but kind of an exercise and if I find the time and motivation to file all the bugs other gentoo-users might benefit in the future. I am gonna test-drive this setup now by watching TV on my PXE-booted mythfrontend ;-) Greets, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? services and sockets for: in.tftpd libvirtd mythbackend mysqld nfs server vixie-cron While mythtv isn't really mainstream there are other daemons in this list that really *should* be supported with USE=systemd, I assume (sure, mythtv should get its file as well ...). No; the unit files should be installed by default by their respective packages. No systemd USE flag, the same way there is no need for an openrc USE flag to install init scripts in /etc/init.d For sure this migration wasn't really *necessary* for me but kind of an exercise and if I find the time and motivation to file all the bugs other gentoo-users might benefit in the future. Thanks for doing that. I am gonna test-drive this setup now by watching TV on my PXE-booted mythfrontend ;-) Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? And rsyncd: https://github.com/vonSchlotzkow/systemd-gentoo-units/blob/master/sys-apps/systemd-units/files/services-server/rsyncd.service S
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 20:15, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: While mythtv isn't really mainstream there are other daemons in this list that really *should* be supported with USE=systemd, I assume (sure, mythtv should get its file as well ...). No; the unit files should be installed by default by their respective packages. No systemd USE flag, the same way there is no need for an openrc USE flag to install init scripts in /etc/init.d Yes, ok ... I will leave that to the devs then :-) For sure this migration wasn't really *necessary* for me but kind of an exercise and if I find the time and motivation to file all the bugs other gentoo-users might benefit in the future. Thanks for doing that. It was a pleasure so far ;-) Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? I quickly browsed bugs.gentoo.org ... libvirtd: I was wrong! The ebuild brings service-files. No bugs filed yet for these: in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync mysqld has a related bug already: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466084
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. OK, thanks again. I have one question which this brings up -- and this applies to openrc as well -- I never have let it migrate /var/run to /run and /var/lock likewise because I have directories in those which are owned by various users, etc. and the packages themselves almost never create such -- is putting things in /etc/tmpfiles.d the correct way to fix this? tmpfiles.d is from systemd: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html However, I think OpenRC developers were thinking about supporting it. I don't know if that actually happened. With systemd in Gentoo, /var/run is bind mounted from /run, and it's a tmpfs dir, so everything there goes away after a reboot. The config files in tmpfiles.d allows the creation (and automatic removal) of directories and files there. I don't know if it's the correct way to fix anything; but it works. Can I use the d action to change the permissions of an existing directory and if not, how can I do this? I don't think so. The contents of /run (and /var/run before it) are, by definition, used only at run time. They are not intended to be preserved, and they actually should be cleaned from time to time (hence the age field in tmpfiles.d). Therefore tmpfiles.d only deals with creation (and cleaning up) of files/directories, not updating them, since they should not be even present when the system boots up. The files in /etc/tmpfiles.d are used by the systemd-tmpfiles-* units, and (AFAIU) they only create files/directories at boot time, and then only clean afterwards. My /run directory is really empty. When my systems boot up, systemd mounts a tmpfs on it: # mount | grep on /run tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,mode=755) Then the var-run.mount unit binds mount /run into /var/run. So no file/directory there is actually written into any physical disk ever. But I need to change the permissions of /var/lock to 777, if I can't use tmpfiles.d how can I do this? chmod 777 /var/lock? I don't understand the question. What
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for gentoo ... pls post and share! This is my mysqld.service file used in production with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=mySQL Server After=network.target Documentation=man:mysqld(8) [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ExecStop=/bin/kill -15 $MAINPID PIDFile=/var/run/mysqld/mysql.pid Restart=always CPUSchedulingPolicy=idle CPUSchedulingPriority=0 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target You can omit/ignore the CPScheduling* entries (it runs in a very old machine, and I need mysql not to hog all the CPU). Also, I use this in /etc/tmpfiles.d/mysqld.conf: D /run/mysqld 0755 mysql mysql - - I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. Thanks for that, I will need thatas well. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ...
For the records:
# tftpd.service
[Unit]
Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon
[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS}
sorry, this is not working as intended.
The syntax does not match (I thought I could read the default config-file).
For now:
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /mnt/mypxe
Omit the braces.
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici
cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 20:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: No bugs filed yet for these: in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync Filed some related bugs now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482712 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482714 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482716 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482718 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482720 We'll see ... Greets, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Am 27.08.2013 22:52, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
Omit the braces.
thanks ... doesn't work here anyway ... because $INTFTPD_OPTS also
includes ${INTFTPD_PATH} from within /etc/conf.d/in.tftpd (which can't
be resolved this way).
What works:
EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -R 4096:32767 -s $INTFTPD_PATH
but ... still not satisfying. I think there might be a separate
conf.d-file or something.
Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. OK, thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
