Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Neil Walker

Mark Knecht wrote:

That surprises me Neil. It seems more 'automatic' than a nuts  bolt
guy such as you might choose.
  


Well, it seems to do a pretty good job and, with 14 machines with a mix 
of Intel and AMD processors, it makes maintenance a lot more 
straightforward.  In the past, I spent a lot of time fiddling around 
with processor/compiler flags only to find that most have little to no 
noticeable effect in the real world. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Abraham Gyorgy
Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true.
(sorry for my bad english :)

2008/5/3, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Mark Knecht wrote:

  Would I be making a reasonably good setting using this in make.conf?
 
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
  CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
 
 

 That's what I would be using on my single, dual and quad cores if I
 weren't using -march=native. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

  That surprises me Neil. It seems more 'automatic' than a nuts  bolt
  guy such as you might choose.
 
 

  Well, it seems to do a pretty good job and, with 14 machines with a mix of
 Intel and AMD processors, it makes maintenance a lot more straightforward.
 In the past, I spent a lot of time fiddling around with processor/compiler
 flags only to find that most have little to no noticeable effect in the real
 world. ;)

  Be lucky,

  Neil

Hey, I ain't pickin' on ya! Makes perfect sense, especially with so
many machines. I was just surprised.

Thanks for the info,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Neil Walker

Abraham Gyorgy wrote:

Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true.


Yes, as long as you are using a recent version of gcc which has support 
for it. I think it came in with gcc 4.2.



(sorry for my bad english :)


Your English seems fine to me - better than some native English speakers 
I know. ;)



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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:12:03 +0100
Neil Walker wrote:

 Abraham Gyorgy wrote:
  Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true.
 
 Yes, as long as you are using a recent version of gcc which has
 support for it. I think it came in with gcc 4.2.

4.2 seems right.  4.1.2 is the newest version that is _not_
experimental for x86 and/or amd64.  4.1.2 doesn't support
march=native.  So the choice seems to be go experimental or wait :-
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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 3. Mai 2008, David Relson wrote:
 On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:12:03 +0100

 Neil Walker wrote:
  Abraham Gyorgy wrote:
   Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true.
 
  Yes, as long as you are using a recent version of gcc which has
  support for it. I think it came in with gcc 4.2.

 4.2 seems right.  4.1.2 is the newest version that is _not_
 experimental for x86 and/or amd64.  4.1.2 doesn't support
 march=native.  So the choice seems to be go experimental or wait :-

what is the problem? native or k8, what is the difference? Oh wait, if you 
don't use native you have a bit more control.
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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 03 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  4.2 seems right.  4.1.2 is the newest version that is _not_
  experimental for x86 and/or amd64.  4.1.2 doesn't support
  march=native.  So the choice seems to be go experimental or wait
  :-

 what is the problem? native or k8, what is the difference? Oh wait,
 if you don't use native you have a bit more control.

Makes sense to me. native tells gcc to just figure it out and use what 
the majority of users would use anyway. The remaining 2% get to figure 
it out themselves :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-03 Thread Abraham Gyorgy
Thanks. Unfortunately I'm not using 4.2, but 4.1
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-devel/gcc
4.2 is in testing for amd64.

2008/5/3, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Abraham Gyorgy wrote:

  Omg, we really can use march=native ?? That would be great if true.
 

 Yes, as long as you are using a recent version of gcc which has support
 for it. I think it came in with gcc 4.2.

  (sorry for my bad english :)
 

 Your English seems fine to me - better than some native English speakers I
 know. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-02 Thread Neil Walker

Mark Knecht wrote:

Would I be making a reasonably good setting using this in make.conf?

CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
  


That's what I would be using on my single, dual and quad cores if I 
weren't using -march=native. ;)



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Re: [gentoo-user] march=k8 for AthlonX2?

2008-05-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

  Would I be making a reasonably good setting using this in make.conf?
 
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
  CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe
 
 

  That's what I would be using on my single, dual and quad cores if I weren't
 using -march=native. ;)


That surprises me Neil. It seems more 'automatic' than a nuts  bolt
guy such as you might choose.

Thanks,
Mark
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