Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 04.10.2013 00:32, schrieb Walter Dnes:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote
>> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
>>
>> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
>   Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under
> uclibc?  My first gues would be stuff like Schlockwave/Trash and Nvidia
> binary blobs... i.e. any binary file that has been complied against
> glibc, which we do not have the sources to re-compile.  Other than that,
> it might be fun to build a "Gentoo lite" based on uclibc and busybox.
>


https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hardened_uClibc
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hardened_uClibc/Lilblue



Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote
> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> 
> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html

  Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under
uclibc?  My first gues would be stuff like Schlockwave/Trash and Nvidia
binary blobs... i.e. any binary file that has been complied against
glibc, which we do not have the sources to re-compile.  Other than that,
it might be fun to build a "Gentoo lite" based on uclibc and busybox.

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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:39:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> 
> I chuckle at what s6's author wrote about systemd:
>
> http://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan-not-1.html
>

Yes, I saw that too.

I don't know anything about D-Bus, so I can't comment specifically about
it, but I tend to agree quite a bit with this guy's ideas about the init
system. process 1 should be kept simple, and in systemd, this is
definitely not the case.

William



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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 3, 2013 9:26 PM, "William Hubbs"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> > > >
> > > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
> > >
> > > Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
> > > members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.
> > >
> > > I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
> > > the tree [1].
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744
> >
> > Found that bug report earlier and CCed myself. Will track the progress,
maybe
> > use it on a test box I plan to build soon.
>
> That bug report is now closed, and skalibs, execline and s6 are now in
> the tree. If you emerge s6 you get all of them since s6 depends on them.
>
> For everyone else who is following this thread: The web page originally
> referred to is just discussing what his server is running. The more
> interesting page is his software page:
>
> http://www.skarnet.org/software/
>
> William
>

I chuckle at what s6's author wrote about systemd:

http://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan-not-1.html

Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> > > 
> > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
> > 
> > Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
> > members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.
> > 
> > I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
> > the tree [1].
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744
> 
> Found that bug report earlier and CCed myself. Will track the progress, maybe
> use it on a test box I plan to build soon.

That bug report is now closed, and skalibs, execline and s6 are now in
the tree. If you emerge s6 you get all of them since s6 depends on them.

For everyone else who is following this thread: The web page originally
referred to is just discussing what his server is running. The more
interesting page is his software page:

http://www.skarnet.org/software/

William



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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> > 
> > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
> 
> Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
> members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.
> 
> I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
> the tree [1].
> 
> William
> 
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744

Found that bug report earlier and CCed myself. Will track the progress, maybe
use it on a test box I plan to build soon.
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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
> 
> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html

Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.

I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
the tree [1].

William

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744



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