Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-27 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer
For now that will not affect any user, only the manufacturer.  And
yes, they could put ext2 on a digital camera.  Maybe this patent will
prompt them to do just that.

sincerely,
  Joshua

On 1/26/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote:
  Yeah, use ext2 for all of that:
 
  http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm
  http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
  http://www.fs-driver.org/
 
  All of those are supposed to worik, and I am trying them out now.

 Ok, but what do we do with digital cameras? Do you know how to put an
 ext2 driver on a digital camera? :(

 m.

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-26 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer
Yeah, use ext2 for all of that:

http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
http://www.fs-driver.org/

All of those are supposed to worik, and I am trying them out now.

good luck,
  joshua


On 1/23/06, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Personally I use ext3 for everything except windows partitions. I have 3
  NTFS-partitions, and one FAT32 partition. The freeware read/write
  ext2-driver for Windows doesn't work with Windows 2003, so I have to use
  FAT32. Especially because captive-ntfs aren't working for me.

 Seeing as we are all talking nonsense anyway - does anyone have an
 opinion on the fact that m$ just got a fat patent validated by a US court?
 Chrs
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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-26 Thread b.n.

Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote:

Yeah, use ext2 for all of that:

http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
http://www.fs-driver.org/

All of those are supposed to worik, and I am trying them out now.


Ok, but what do we do with digital cameras? Do you know how to put an 
ext2 driver on a digital camera? :(


m.

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-23 Thread Antoine


Personally I use ext3 for everything except windows partitions. I have 3 
NTFS-partitions, and one FAT32 partition. The freeware read/write 
ext2-driver for Windows doesn't work with Windows 2003, so I have to use 
FAT32. Especially because captive-ntfs aren't working for me.


Seeing as we are all talking nonsense anyway - does anyone have an 
opinion on the fact that m$ just got a fat patent validated by a US court?

Chrs
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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-23 Thread John Jolet


On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Antoine wrote:



Personally I use ext3 for everything except windows partitions. I  
have 3 NTFS-partitions, and one FAT32 partition. The freeware read/ 
write ext2-driver for Windows doesn't work with Windows 2003, so I  
have to use FAT32. Especially because captive-ntfs aren't working  
for me.


Seeing as we are all talking nonsense anyway - does anyone have an  
opinion on the fact that m$ just got a fat patent validated by a US  
court?

Chrs


isn't it cool how you can patent something you stole?

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread b.n.

Michael Sullivan wrote:

What's a meta-flamewar???


A flamewar about flamewars.
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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A flamewar about flamewars.

Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
filesystems, so that must be the best! :P

-Richard

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 11:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A flamewar about flamewars.
 
 Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
 filesystems, so that must be the best! :P
 
 -Richard
 

I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot.  I get confused about all the
others.

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 21 January 2006 20:07, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A flamewar about flamewars.

 Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
 filesystems, so that must be the best! :P

I forgot that one. Shame on me!

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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:07:21 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

What about the one about top-posting

 Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
 filesystems, so that must be the best! :P

vs. bottom-posting? ;-)


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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild

Michael Sullivan wrote:

On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 11:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:



I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot.  I get confused about all the
others.



I don't grok that.

*cough*FAT12*cough* is all you need :p (and 640KB of ram is enough for 
everybody).


Personally I use ext3 for everything except windows partitions. I have 3 
NTFS-partitions, and one FAT32 partition. The freeware read/write 
ext2-driver for Windows doesn't work with Windows 2003, so I have to use 
FAT32. Especially because captive-ntfs aren't working for me.


Kristian Poul Herkild.
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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread b.n.

Michael Sullivan wrote:

I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot.  I get confused about all the
others.


I have ext2 for /boot and reiserfs for everything else. But reiserfs 
fragmentation is going to make me pretty angry...


m.


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Re: Completely and totally OT - Re: [gentoo-user] Have you seen my flamesuit? (Was: How many people use KDE?)

2006-01-21 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Sullivan wrote: I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot.I get confused about all the others.I have ext2 for /boot and reiserfs for everything else. But reiserfsfragmentation is going to make me pretty angry...
m.XFS is the best. It is supported, it is reasonably fast, it has a
defragmenter, it has repair tools that are not only supported, but
known to work It has ways to optimize for extremely large
filesystems, and, though it won't win speed records in some areas, it
holds it's own. 

I have been using it since 2000. I even use it for boot, but there is no reason for that. This year I began running most of my fs's in sync mode, except for highly active data shares. This has actually had very little impact at all. When I run upgrades, I remount async, but I have found that sync mode does not cause horrible slowness, and frankly kicks ass. I even run my desktops in sync mode. 
I have used ext2 tons, ext3 enough to dislike it, reiserfs and jfs. I have tested most all of them on production servers. Last year we re building a new database server with JFS. It is a dual opteron, and at length we ran into a few problems where we got no real errors, but JFS would spit out something random and remount the fs readonly. Memtest, this that the other - none of it worked. We ended up using XFS.
So, since we are on the topic of flame wars... and there is this random FS post, theres my two cents.Thanks, Joshua