[Geoserver-users] meta tiling doesn't preserve position of labels
Hi all,
I'm trying to set labels for my layers. I have point layer with about 3000
points and this layer is only for showing labels. In SLD I set AnchorPointX
and Y to 0.5 and 0.5 so center of label should be exactly above the point.
And this work if I serve this labels as single tile. But from some reasons I
don't want to use single tile. So I define tiled: true in my OpenLayers. But
in some cases label center is not exactly above point but displaced little
bit. It is shown on images (it is only one example, this shift could be to
any direction on any pixels). Code I used is here:
new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS(
admin_obec_centroid_label_type,
http://192.168.1.98:8080/geoserver/zk/wms;,
{ layers: 'zk:admin_obec_centroid_label_type',
srs: 'EPSG:3857',
format: 'image/png',
tiled: true,
tilesOrigin : map.maxExtent.left + ',' +
map.maxExtent.bottom,
transparent: 'true'
},
{singleTile: false,
yx : {'EPSG:3857' : false}})
Is anything I forget to define or is it normal behavior and could't be
changed?
Thanks,
Dan
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http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/file/n4988536/tiled.png
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Re: [Geoserver-users] meta tiling doesn't preserve position of labels
Ok, I thought that i enabled metatiling with define tiled: true in my code. Is it need to allow something in GeoServer page GeoWebCache Settings? I have tried rise up Default meta-tiling factors but it didn't help :( Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/meta-tiling-doesn-t-preserve-position-of-labels-tp4988536p4988591.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
I'm not sure, that problem will be in javscript and css because it happend even in layer preview in GeoServer. It is true, that is only in one zoom level, but too :( Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/geoserver-doesn-t-show-untiled-postgis-layer-tp4640787p4988128.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
Hi, still no progress. I tried to change projection of layers back to 4326, I tried to use whole postgis tables instead of SQL views in Geoserver but nothing changed. Everytime, my label layer didn't shown in Chrome, really slow in Firefox and normally in IE. I tried to increase java memory, tried to reprogram my application but nothing. Can you gice me some tip what I should try? In fact I don't know if this problem is with GeoServer or OpenLayers or where :( Thanks Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/geoserver-doesn-t-show-untiled-postgis-layer-tp4640787p4987900.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
I did it. I tried to start fresh, but problem is still the same. What is most
confusing for me is why chrome open this single tile in new tab if I copy
its address. I'm not sure, what I should looking at. Here is the code I
used.
function init()
{
OpenLayers.ProxyHost = proxy.php?url=;
map = new OpenLayers.Map('mapa',{
controls: [
new
OpenLayers.Control.Navigation({dragPanOptions: {enableKinetic:
true}, mouseWheelOptions: {interval: 100}}),
new OpenLayers.Control.PanPanel({slideFactor:
250}),
new OpenLayers.Control.ZoomPanel(),
new OpenLayers.Control.ScaleLine()
],projection: new OpenLayers.Projection(EPSG:3857),
displayProjection: new
OpenLayers.Projection(EPSG:4326),
maxExtent: new OpenLayers.Bounds(-20037508.34,
-20037508.34, 20037508.34,
20037508.34),
units: m});
podkladLayers = new Array(
new OpenLayers.Layer.OSM(mc_P_osm,
http://snape/MapQuest/${z}/${x}/${y}.png;, {transitionEffect: 'resize',
buffer:1}));
map.addLayer(podkladLayers[0]);
vrstvaPsc = new Array(
new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS(
psc_zona_6,
http://192.168.1.92:8080/geoserver/zk/wms;,
{ layers: 'zk:psc_zona_6',
srs: 'EPSG:3857',
env: 'opacita: 0.5',
format: 'image/png',
tilesOrigin : map.maxExtent.left + ',' +
map.maxExtent.bottom,
transparent: 'true'
},
{singleTile: false,
yx : {'EPSG:3857' : false}
}),
new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS(
psc_zona_6_l,
http://192.168.1.92:8080/geoserver/zk/wms;,
{ layers: 'zk:psc_zona_6_l',
srs: 'EPSG:3857',
format: 'image/png',
tilesOrigin : map.maxExtent.left + ',' +
map.maxExtent.bottom,
transparent: 'true'
},
{singleTile: true,
yx : {'EPSG:3857' : false}})
);
map.addLayer(vrstvaPsc[0]);
map.addLayer(vrstvaPsc[1]);
zoomToExt(12.089081, 48.55116, 18.858719, 51.055207, true);
}
Dan
P.S. This layer has about 2600 points(lables), but I think it is ok because
I'm using layer with the same count of polygons.
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Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
Really funny thing. This problem is only in Chrome. IE display tile correct and in fact, fast, but Chrome display nothing, Firefox display tile too, but it takes really long time. So now I am little bit confused... Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/geoserver-doesn-t-show-untiled-postgis-layer-tp4640787p4982392.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
Hi, now I have similar problem with this. For some reasons I have labels as single tile. But this single tile is not displayed in my map in some scales. So I tried to open this image in new window and there is everything ok. I think that changing Max Rendering Memory is no way because it doesn't help. I supose that it caused by number of labels, but I am not sure. For full information I should tell, that this started after I change serving labels as SQL view and I start to use different system (before 4326, now 3857). Do you have any idea where could be a problem? Thanks a lot Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/geoserver-doesn-t-show-untiled-postgis-layer-tp4640787p4981073.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] only 30 srs in list
Hi all, from unknown reason I have only 30 srs in list of them when I want to add layer. So if I want to set epsg: 3857 and I write it directly it writes that declared srs must be set. I think that this causes other problems I have now. Do you anyone know, where could be a problem? I did not change anything in geoserver source files. Thanks Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/only-30-srs-in-list-tp4980772.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] need write many rules because of scaleDenominator in sld
Hi all, I have small question about writing sld. I need to implement MaxScaleDenominator but only for changing of font-size. But I have to write long rule for styling my labels. So if I want to use scaleDenominator I have to write this rule whole again and again and again and again... only with one change, change of font-size. Example is here: Rule Namelabel_1/Name MaxScaleDenominator250/MaxScaleDenominator TextSymbolizer Label ogc:PropertyNameNAZ_KRAJ/ogc:PropertyName /Label CssParameter name=font-familyVerdana/CssParameter CssParameter name=font-size18/CssParameter CssParameter name=font-stylenormal/CssParameter CssParameter name=font-weightbold/CssParameter LabelPlacement PointPlacement AnchorPoint AnchorPointX0.5/AnchorPointX AnchorPointY0.5/AnchorPointY /AnchorPoint /PointPlacement /LabelPlacement Halo Radius1/Radius FillCssParameter name=fill#ff/CssParameter/Fill /Halo Fill CssParameter name=fill#003300/CssParameter /Fill /TextSymbolizer /Rule Rule Namelabel_2/Name MaxScaleDenominator100/MaxScaleDenominator TextSymbolizer ... Is any way how to make sld shorter? Something like write five rules for changing font-size depend on scale and one rule for the rest of style? Do you have any tips for that? Thanks a lot for your help ;) Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/need-write-many-rules-because-of-scaleDenominator-in-sld-tp4978460.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] need write many rules because of scaleDenominator in sld
Thanks for suggestion, but for labels it does not exactly what I need but it is good to know for sizing other stuffs. Let suppose, that I need to change another thing as color, font-family or if I will use some filter for making choropleth map where only thing I need to change is fill color. But always only one or two things in rule. Is it some easy way to do this? Sorry for my questions, I'm trying to make my work easier :) Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/need-write-many-rules-because-of-scaleDenominator-in-sld-tp4978460p4978483.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] missing geometry after create sql view
ok, so problem was in postgis, reinstall of postgis solved it. I should try it earlier. Sure, I don't know why, but I deleted table the_geom, so, as in a lot of cases, problem was between chair and PC :) Thanks all for help, I really appreciate this Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/missing-geometry-after-create-sql-view-tp4660559p4663312.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] missing geometry after create sql view
Hi all, I'm trying to create sql view from two postgis tables where first has geometry and second has not, but final layer has no geometry and no srid. I don't know, if I make mistake during create postgis table from shp, because I leave srid as -1. But this table looks normal in geoserver and it has epsg 4326. I'm using this select: select * from geometry, nogeometry where geometry.postcode=nogeometry.postcode Database are qite new from me, so maybe I'm making some mistake. Thanks for help, Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/missing-geometry-after-create-sql-view-tp4660559p4660559.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] missing geometry after create sql view
I have tried create another view, only from one table and after this: select * from table and refreshing attributes I have not column geog in list which is in the source. So I'm confused now, should I define something in select? Thanks, Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/missing-geometry-after-create-sql-view-tp4660559p4660731.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] missing geometry after create sql view
Ok, so if I understand well. If I use during transform shp to postgis load into geography column it will generate this problem? But problem is, that without this I can't create database, it writes that Failed in pgui_exec(): ERROR: relation geometry_columns does not exist. But I suppose, that this isn't question in geoserver forum, but postgis isn't it? :) Thanks Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/missing-geometry-after-create-sql-view-tp4660559p4660903.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] missing geometry after create sql view
Yeah, but into geometry column I can't import because of error I wrote before and it's mystery for me, why :( Thanks for link, I'll write it ;) Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/missing-geometry-after-create-sql-view-tp4660559p4661004.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] combine shp and sql
Hi all, I'm trying to combine shp (where I have geometry of some districts) with MySQL database (where I have attributes), both saved on GeoServer as Layer. In both stores is column ID with the same data. Is possible to connect this two type of format? I try to explain. I want create choropleth map of administrative district. These district I have stored as shp, only geometry and ID. Next I have MySQL database with column ID, population, ..., and this data I want to use for color. I know, that I can use PostGis and store all of this data in one database, but from some reasons I don't want to. I thought about SQL views, but it seems to be bad idea. I have really few experiencis with databases, so maybe I have stupid question, so sorry for that ] Thanks a lot Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/combine-shp-and-sql-tp4657037p4657037.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
Hi, thanks for your advice, problem was really in wms-max rendering memory. I changed it from default 65536kb to 10kb and it's ok. Is any way, how to find optimal max rendering memory for my layer? Thanks once more Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/geoserver-doesn-t-show-untiled-postgis-layer-tp4640787p4643682.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] other charts than pie SLD
Hi, I'm trying to generate charts on geoserver via chart extension here http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/06/01/geoserver-chart-extension/ http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/06/01/geoserver-chart-extension/ but I can't find, how change pie chart to bar, column and so on. I tried to change cht=p in code to cht=b, cht=c but nothing. Can you help me? Do you know any page with documentation to this extension, I can't find anything :( Thanks a lot Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/other-charts-than-pie-SLD-tp4640505p4640505.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] other charts than pie SLD
Thanks Andrea, I'm bad in searching sometimes so I visited google chart documentation , but didn't your second link. There is all written, thanks ;) -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/other-charts-than-pie-SLD-tp4640505p4640566.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
[Geoserver-users] geoserver doesn't show untiled postgis layer
Hi all,
funny thing. If I have web broswer as full window my postgis layer doesn't
show. But after resizing broswer window and make it smaller, everything is
ok. Is any restriction in resolution of untiled postgis layer? Or is problem
anywhere in geoserver, postgis or openlayers?
For loading layer I'm using this code:
pscAvonWMS = new OpenLayers.Layer.WMS(
zony, http://localhost:8080/geoserver/zk/wms;,
{
layers: 'zk:pscAvonDB',
styles: '',
srs: 'EPSG:4326',
format: 'image/png',
tilesOrigin : map.maxExtent.left + ',' +
map.maxExtent.bottom,
transparent: 'true'
},
{singleTile: true,
yx : {'EPSG:4326' : false}}
);
And if I use shapefile instead of postgis, everythink is ok. Do you have any
idea where is problem?
Thanks a lot
Dan
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Re: [Geoserver-users] using geoserver
Hi, thanks for your answer. So I undertand licence well :). And I don´t want to change any code in Geoserver and so on, I'm not so good :)). Everytime I made some interactive map, I did it for my fun, not for money, and this time it is first time, what I should thinking about money, about client, about licence, so it is little bit confusing for me. So thanks for advice ;). I would like to disscus with my boss, how to contribute to Geoserver+openlayers+postgis, because I don´t want to use something what someone made, only for free, without contribute. But it is my war now :). One thing I don't understant left. How I should say clients, that I'm using Geoserver? Should I use somewhere text written at the end of this page: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/License http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/License ? In my licence? Or is it possible to place in my map logo and link to GeoServer? Maybe if you know any links, where this is use right? Anyway, thanks for your help Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/using-geoserver-tp4561811p4569321.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] using geoserver
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[Geoserver-users] using geoserver
Hi all, I have one question about GeoServer licence. It should be stupid question. My employer want to know, if we can make an interactive map using GeoServer, OL, PostGis. So yes we can, but what exactly we have to do? For exampe: We will create interactive map using GS, OL, PG. This map will be on our server and user will can display this map only if they pay to us. Or we will create interactive map and this map I want to sell my customer (so I will install GeoServer, PostGis on his server and so on). Is it possible? Is it legal under GeoServer or PostGis licence? Where I should write, that I used GeoServer for creating this map? My oppinion is, that we can, but GeoServer, PostGis, OpenLayers are free, so our pay will be only for creating interactive map, for data that we use (ours data), but not for using GS, PG, OL. Is it right oppinnion? I tried to understand GeoServer licence written in here: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/License http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/License but for me it is something like to try understand singing of whales :) Thanks a lot and sorry for question like this Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/using-geoserver-tp4561811p4561811.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
Re: [Geoserver-users] using geoserver
Hi, thank, but my question is more about licence of GeoServer and PostGis. I can make an intetractive map, but question is, if is possible to sell this map to someone ;) Thanks Dan -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/using-geoserver-tp4561811p4561983.html Sent from the GeoServer - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Geoserver-users mailing list Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users
