Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 00:11 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

 So far no-one has approached me asking for the tarball that I prepared.
 Is there really no-one out there who's willing and capable to host this
 simple Wiki setup?

Like you :-) I'm too busy right now, although I can provide server
space. I'm not willing to host a wiki unless there are active anti-spam
measures in place (same as for blogs) but otherwise it's fine.

Liam


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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 00:11 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

 So far no-one has approached me asking for the tarball that I prepared.
 Is there really no-one out there who's willing and capable to host this
 simple Wiki setup?

 Like you :-) I'm too busy right now, although I can provide server
 space. I'm not willing to host a wiki unless there are active anti-spam
 measures in place (same as for blogs) but otherwise it's fine.
I think that wiki was not open for registration and nobody but Peter
could edit it.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread peter sikking
Alexia wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net  
 wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 00:11 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

 So far no-one has approached me asking for the tarball that I  
 prepared.
 Is there really no-one out there who's willing and capable to host  
 this
 simple Wiki setup?

 Like you :-) I'm too busy right now, although I can provide server
 space. I'm not willing to host a wiki unless there are active anti- 
 spam
 measures in place (same as for blogs) but otherwise it's fine.
 I think that wiki was not open for registration and nobody but Peter
 could edit it.


close.

There are (I think) 4 accounts up to now, 3 for UI team members and
an administrator (Sven up to now).

a new account is added (by admin) only when the admin and I agree.

but maybe Liam had more sneaky modes of spam in mind.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GSOC - Free Transform Tool

2010-03-29 Thread peter sikking
Stephen McKeague wrote:

 this of course triggers a big update of the spec. there are also some
 rough edges in the spec that need to be defined: like when the  
 frame is
 partially in view, or no edge of the frame is in view.

 On this note, could you please clarify for me where it says, Only  
 the visible part of the transform frame goes into the size  
 calculations.

with the size calculations I meant the calculation of all the  
handles for
manipulating the frame are done according to how big the transformation
frame is on-screen.

what needs sorting out is that after some manipulation the  
transformation
frame can be any kind of shape that can be made out of 4 corners  
connected
by 4 straight lines, including a twisted bow tie type of shape.

this general shape is then clipped by the viewport of the image window,
which is really a rectangle. This clipped general shape then needs to
be manipulated. I still have to investigate what is reasonable for users
to be able to do in these situations and how I can make this happen.

 Also, can you please confirm why the transformation tool would only  
 perform the calculation when the user goes and does something else.


yeah that passage is not clear. what I mean is that what is manipulated
on-screen is just a preview of the real image data: it is just a limited
amount of pixels (there are only 1 to 2 Mpix on a monitor) and it will,
using all the dirty tricks in the world, 'instantly' reflect the
transformation made by users using the handles. even while moving the  
handles.

the real transformation of the real pixels in memory is then done with
the aggregate transformation in one pass when users go and do  
something else.
this is the maximum fidelity contract with users.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] About the idea: Basic gegl based paint tool

2010-03-29 Thread Jenny
Here is my draft proposal
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARZjTPkuA386ZGRmY3JteG1fOTRoZmJ4cm1keghl=en

thanks,
Jenny


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:

 On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 21:40 +0800, Jenny wrote:
  But... it is on the idea list, names Basic gegl based paint tool.

 It's on the idea list for gimp - i.e. a gimp paint tool that's based
 directly on gegl, I would think was meant. Maybe one that lets you
 apply gegl operations to a brush-sized area as yo upaint, rather
 like brushes in Krita (a KDE drawing/painting program).

 There's a certain amount of flexibility around the GIMP projects, but
 I rather think they do actually have to involve GIMP :-)

 Liam

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[Gimp-developer] TOP

2010-03-29 Thread Larry S
Hello I am in need of a TOP viewer or file viewer to work with Gimp for a
digipad.

Any questions please ask!

Larry
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Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] About the idea: Basic gegl based paint tool

2010-03-29 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jenny jenny.ding@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is my draft proposal
 https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARZjTPkuA386ZGRmY3JteG1fOTRoZmJ4cm1keghl=en
 thanks,
 Jenny

No, that was not even in the same ballpark as the idea. Integration
with gimp was said to be optional but the project is for a paint tool
in gimp sense. Like paintbrush tool or airbrush tool using gegl as the
back end. The aim of this idea is the creation of that back end with
optional GIMP integration. That back end should support paths with
outputs and rendering of those paths either using stamping of a bitmap
or some other sort of creation of a stroke(for example the kind ink
tool in gimp uses now). Essentially an implementation of paint core in
gegl.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] About the idea: Basic gegl based paint tool

2010-03-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jenny jenny.ding@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is my draft proposal
 https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARZjTPkuA386ZGRmY3JteG1fOTRoZmJ4cm1keghl=en
 thanks,
 Jenny

 No, that was not even in the same ballpark as the idea. Integration
 with gimp was said to be optional but the project is for a paint tool
 in gimp sense. Like paintbrush tool or airbrush tool using gegl as the
 back end. The aim of this idea is the creation of that back end with
 optional GIMP integration. That back end should support paths with
 outputs and rendering of those paths either using stamping of a bitmap
 or some other sort of creation of a stroke(for example the kind ink
 tool in gimp uses now). Essentially an implementation of paint core in
 gegl.

Note that there already is code in GEGL that could serve as a starting
point/inspiration that does stroking of paths using bitmaps/potato
stamps with a procedurally generated brush, as well as a minimal
experiment testing it. Since performance of GEGL based things in GIMP
is going to be hampered by the lack of native use of GeglBuffers it
probably makes sense to also be able to experiment with such new
infrastructure outside GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Replace the GimpSizeEntry widget

2010-03-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/27/2010 08:31 PM, Jake Zhang wrote:
 Hi Martin,
 I have send an email to Gimp developer list. I am not sure if the email
 has gone through. I am sending it to you (mentor of this project) and
 the list again...
 Thank you.
 Jake.

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Jake Zhang jake.zhang@gmail.com
 mailto:jake.zhang@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,


 I am interested in the Replace the GimpSizeEntry widget project
 for Gimp in GSoC 2010. I found this project is relevant to my
 experiences and suitable for me. I look forward to having more
 details about specs.

 With a quick search for GimpSizeEntry, I found and read its docs:

 http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/libgimpwidgets/GimpSizeEntry.html

 When creating a new image, there are some fields to set the size,
 resolution, and units for the image, and printing. Am I looking at
 the correct point? If so, it is an important element, because almost
 every user will use it.

 If getting this project, I can make some simple and intuitive design
 for the UI and interaction, and possibly clean and refactor some
 relevant source code. I invite your input and advice.

 I have strong skills and work experiences in software development,
 mostly in graphics area. I have developed graphics editors in C,
 C++, Java and Python (for image processing and manipulation). One of
 the programs has been used by hundreds of customers every year. I am
 familiar the work to deal with dimensions, DPI, the ratio between
 pixels displayed and physical sizes of the object or image.

 I have experiences in C, GTK+, GObject, and Git.
 Regards,
 Jake.




Hi

The current GimpSizeEntry widget has a few outstanding problems
* The code is a giant mess
* This makes it very hard, close to impossible, to add feature like 
preserve aspect ratio between numbers in two GimpSizeEntry:s while 
typing in one of them, updated live
* It takes up a lot of space, and is generally clumsy, a GimpSizeEntry 
inherits from GtkTable but it should rather inherit from GtkEntry
* The combobox used to choose unit is awkward to use, would be better to 
have that handled inside the GtkEntry, simply 40 px or 9 in

  / Martin



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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 12:42 +0200, peter sikking wrote:
 Alexia wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net  
  wrote:
  On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 00:11 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
 
  So far no-one has approached me asking for the tarball that I  
  prepared.
  Is there really no-one out there who's willing and capable to host  
  this
  simple Wiki setup?
 
  Like you :-) I'm too busy right now, although I can provide server
  space. I'm not willing to host a wiki unless there are active anti- 
  spam measures in place (same as for blogs) but otherwise it's fine.

As pointed out, spam shouldn't be a problem since the Wiki has a closed
(and small) group of users and is not publicly editable.

I'd prefer to have the Wiki hosted by someone who has been sticking
around the GIMP project for a while. Someone who we all know as
thrust-worthy. Please pick one of the volunteers and let me know who
should receive the URL of the backup.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread peter sikking
Sven wrote:

 As pointed out, spam shouldn't be a problem since the Wiki has a  
 closed
 (and small) group of users and is not publicly editable.

 I'd prefer to have the Wiki hosted by someone who has been sticking
 around the GIMP project for a while. Someone who we all know as
 thrust-worthy. Please pick one of the volunteers and let me know who
 should receive the URL of the backup.


I would be happy if Liam could host it.
he seems to have the most direct control over his server.

I do find it important that the DNS is also updated then.
there is loads of linkage to gui.gimp.org and deep into
the wiki: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22gui.gimp.org%22

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Re: [Gimp-developer] TOP

2010-03-29 Thread Seth Burgess
Have you tried a pass through top2svg, then importing the SVG?

http://freshmeat.net/projects/top2svg/

Seth

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry S koolar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello I am in need of a TOP viewer or file viewer to work with Gimp for a
 digipad.

 Any questions please ask!

 Larry

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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 12:42 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

 a new account is added (by admin) only when the admin and I agree.
 
 but maybe Liam had more sneaky modes of spam in mind.
No, that would be fine.

Someone ran a blog on my system that allowed open comments, and
quickly got up to over 40,000 spam comments on each posting...

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Re: [Gimp-developer] wiki down...

2010-03-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 21:53 +0200, peter sikking wrote:

 I would be happy if Liam could host it.
 he seems to have the most direct control over his server.

I can try to install mediawiki this week (don't expect a problem,
the server is running centos linux  it's packaged) and then I'll
ask Sven for the backups.

I'm a bit flat-out-busy this week, but sometimes that's the best
time to get things done!

Liam

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