Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:43:23 +, alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe the earlier splash images were only distributed in GIF format, but then they moved to PPM after Burn All GIFs? Just a guess. The splash images have always been PPMs. You can retrieve all of them (at least since 1.00) from CVS by requesting specific versions of the splash file. Kelly
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
Adrian Likins wrote: snipped... the baloon, the rocket, or the new one are my faves for 1.2. I really like the newest one. Nice work. Adrian The magical quality of 1.4 is hard to beat. It reminds me of Bilbo Baggins: "The road goes ever onward..." The latest is very good too, but the bristles are pointing the wrong way (they would point *into* the ink blot as the brush pushes to the left). I guess this bothers my boring and literal mind. GRO
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, "Garry R. Osgood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest is very good too, but the bristles are pointing the wrong way (they would point *into* the ink blot as the brush pushes to the left). I guess this bothers my boring and literal mind. Good catch! Actually, it is even more than that: the whole brush should be pointing in the opposite direction (unless the artist is starting to paint a second line on top of the first one). When you are painting, the brush is usually pointing in the opposite direction of the existing stroke, which is not very convenient for the image layout. I would certainly vote for the lastest splash screen if it could be fixed. Some suggestions for Tigert (because I am not much of an artist so I cannot do that myself): - Move the existing ink line a bit higher (or lower) and start a second one where the tip of the brush is. - Or do things differently: instead of a simple line, draw a large circle in dark red ink around the GIMP letters. The advantage of a circle is that the brush comes back where it started, but with the correct orientation. - Add some perspective on the background. - The tip of the brush should be soaked with ink. Just my .02 Euro... -Raphael
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Adrian Likins wrote: the baloon, the rocket, or the new one are my faves for 1.2. I really like the newest one. Nice work. Adrian I gotta say, the newest one is definitely my favorite so far. The baloon was nice, but this one looks really polished, and professional, but fun at the same time. It is a logo that says "we can take on photoshop, just click and see" ;-) The Tao is like a glob pattern: It is masked but always present. used but never used up. I don't know who built to it. It is like the extern void: It came before the first kernel. filled with infinite possibilities. [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
the baloon, the rocket, or the new one are my faves for 1.2. I really like the newest one. Nice work. Adrian I gotta say, the newest one is definitely my favorite so far. The baloon was nice, but this one looks really polished, and professional, but fun at the same time. It is a logo that says "we can take on photoshop, just click and see" ;-) Glyph, I have to say that my sentiments are just the opposite of yours. Although the latest splash (with the brush) is nice and traditional looking, I find it has little identity and little character. On the other hand I feel that the balloon splash captures the mood and the spirit of the GIMP. I don't know how to express it exactly, but to me the balloon says that the GIMP is out of this world, it follows the alternate path, it allows you to dream not only of what is...but of what may never be. The brush is just a brush. Best regards, Carey Bunks
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:45:50 -0800 (PST), Arcterex [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I personally like both the balloon and brush image. Maybe both can fit in somewhere? I understand I'm just a lurker here and have no real clout, but maybe one can be the splash (I'm thinking balloon) and the brush one could be modified for the About image? We could be really evil and have multiple splash images, randomly selected at startup. :) Kelly
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Carey Bunks wrote: Glyph, I have to say that my sentiments are just the opposite of yours. Although the latest splash (with the brush) is nice and traditional looking, I find it has little identity and little character. On the other hand I feel that the balloon splash captures the mood and the spirit of the GIMP. I don't know how to express it exactly, but to me the balloon says that the GIMP is out of this world, it follows the alternate path, it allows you to dream not only of what is...but of what may never be. The brush is just a brush. Well, that's very poetically phrased. Whichever way we go, let's not compromise. The brush hanging out of the balloon would ruin the whole thing... Personally, I think that GIMP has many faces, the 'go beyond' aspect definitely being one of them which the baloon captures, but the brush also embodies a certain professionalism and dedication to quality. GIMP and GTK really brought free UNIX up to par with commercial operating systems. It is the 'killer app' -- Linux's visicalc. It also allows for production of really *good* pictures. The random-splash-screen idea is a good one, perhaps with a few more of the interim splashes. Let's not include 'Oh, the humanity!' though, okay? :-) The Tao is like a glob pattern: It is masked but always present. used but never used up. I don't know who built to it. It is like the extern void: It came before the first kernel. filled with infinite possibilities. [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Don, 13 Jan 2000 wrote the famous Carey Bunks: Don't you think, though, that it would be good if the GIMP had an identity? I think the marketing types call it something like "branding"...an image that when folks see it they say, "oh yeah, that's the GIMP". If the splash is always changing, I think it will just lead to identity confusion. For this reason, I'd prefer the brush over the random-splash-screen idea. But I still prefer the balloon over the brush ;-) Me too! But what did you think about the ballon picture (with it's poetic message of breaking the bounds and leaving the world behind) being painted by the brush (to include the statement that gimp beats them all ;-))? Hey, I am no artist -- and will never be :-( But I am a bit of a conceptionist :-))) Carey is right with the branding! Photoshop is known by it's eye, corel draw by it's balloon (so maybe the balloon isn't very well suited for the gimp), Illustrator by the venus and so on. So I think we have to start thinking about one concept that illustrates the power of the gimp. Let's make a brain-storm and start a hurricane of ideas! And then our well beloved artists can bring this ideas and concepts to life! Just my 0.02 euro ;-) Uwe -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~koloska/ ---- right now the web page is in german only but this will change as time goes by ;-)
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
Thus spoke Carey Bunks Don't you think, though, that it would be good if the GIMP had an identity? I think the marketing types call it something like "branding"...an image that when folks see it they say, "oh yeah, that's the GIMP". If the splash is always changing, I think it will just lead to identity confusion. For this reason, I'd prefer the brush over the random-splash-screen idea. Branding for the Gimp actually comes from Wilbur. Photoshops splash screen, for example, isn't what they use for branding. But it is used to imply sophistication. Wilbur is simple, easy to identify and not used anywhere else. It fits well as an identity mark. -- Michael J. Hammel | The Graphics Muse | Kinky is using a feather, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Perverted is using the whole chicken. http://www.graphics-muse.com
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
Thus spoke Tom Rathborne Right now I think Wilber only shows up in the "Tip of the day" box. I think he should be on the splash screen, on the about page, and perhaps even in the help files. If the help files will be based on GUM, which I imagine is a very structured document, maybe we could have special Wilber icons wherever there is a "warning" or "note" or "tip". Wilbur probably belongs on the help pages and tips dialog. The only other place I think it might find a home is the Toolbox, perhaps as a background image somehow. But adding extra space just for the logo in every window is a bit wasteful. And over using it can be just as damaging as not using it enough. Hey, we could even have a Wilber "agent" like the M$ Word Paperclip. Bite your tongue! :-) Please shoot me now. I'll get the bullets. -- Michael J. Hammel | The Graphics Muse | Kinky is using a feather, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Perverted is using the whole chicken. http://www.graphics-muse.com
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 01:13:31AM +0100, Uwe Koloska wrote: Carey is right with the branding! Photoshop is known by it's eye, corel draw by it's balloon (so maybe the balloon isn't very well suited for the gimp), Illustrator by the venus and so on. Corel's balloon is just boring. It's got no magic or fairytale feeling. ;) Tig -- .---( t i g e r t @ g i m p . o r g )---. | some stuff at http://tigert.gimp.org/ | `---'
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 01:15:54PM +0100, Raphael Quinet wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, "Garry R. Osgood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest is very good too, but the bristles are pointing the wrong way (they would point *into* the ink blot as the brush pushes to the left). I guess this bothers my boring and literal mind. Good catch! Actually, it is even more than that: the whole brush should be pointing in the opposite direction (unless the artist is starting to paint a second line on top of the first one). When you are painting, the brush is usually pointing in the opposite direction of the existing stroke, which is not very convenient for the image layout. Yeah. The logic was: The brush painted the line, and then moved to the place it is in the picture. It's more a matter of composition. If the bristles pointed to right, it would just look weird. All in all that pic was done very fast, just because Marc Lehmann was asking someone to replace his "new year" splash. The image is layered though so I was thinking of making this into the "About" image - now: what should be in the about image? "GIMP - Virtual Crayons" or something? I strongly vote for something humoristic, if we take this thing too seriously it'll be bad. One of the best things in Gimp is you have weird plugins. Like IFS-compose. Or GimpMill - havent tried it yet since I had some trouble getting it to work with CVS gimp: --- 8 ($:~/.gimp-1.1/plug-ins)- ./gimpmill.py Traceback (innermost last): File "./gimpmill.py", line 4, in ? from gimpfu import * File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/gimpfu.py", line 48, in ? import gimp ImportError: /usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/gimpmodule.so: undefined symbol: gimp_image_find_parasite 8 --- Any clue? Is gimp-python not working with cvs gimp? (GimpMill is a plugin that saves your image as a Sawmill theme once you follow certain rules on creating the image - pretty cool :) I would certainly vote for the lastest splash screen if it could be fixed. Some suggestions for Tigert (because I am not much of an artist so I cannot do that myself): - Move the existing ink line a bit higher (or lower) and start a second one where the tip of the brush is. - Or do things differently: instead of a simple line, draw a large circle in dark red ink around the GIMP letters. The advantage of a circle is that the brush comes back where it started, but with the correct orientation. - Add some perspective on the background. :) Thanks for the tips. I'll see what happens for the About pic. - The tip of the brush should be soaked with ink. I tried that a bit but it looked weird. Tig -- .---( t i g e r t @ g i m p . o r g )---. | some stuff at http://tigert.gimp.org/ | `---'
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Sunday, 9 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 05:08:26PM +0100, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that means quality loss (original where 256 colors only?), and I am looking Yes, quality loss in many cases... for the PPM, not derivatives. In the files dir I saw a message saying that You can get the ppm files by checking out the relevant cvs revision of that file (tigert's page even mentions the revision numbers) I vote for releasing gimp 1.2 with Tigert's 1.4 "floating balloon" splash screen. Austin
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:24:09PM +, Austin Donnelly wrote: On Sunday, 9 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 05:08:26PM +0100, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that means quality loss (original where 256 colors only?), and I am looking Yes, quality loss in many cases... for the PPM, not derivatives. In the files dir I saw a message saying that You can get the ppm files by checking out the relevant cvs revision of that file (tigert's page even mentions the revision numbers) I vote for releasing gimp 1.2 with Tigert's 1.4 "floating balloon" splash screen. I was thinking of that too. People seem to like that one. Thanks for the vote :) Tuomas -- .---( t i g e r t @ g i m p . o r g )---. | some stuff at http://tigert.gimp.org/ | `---'
Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 03:15:55PM -0800, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:24:09PM +, Austin Donnelly wrote: On Sunday, 9 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 05:08:26PM +0100, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that means quality loss (original where 256 colors only?), and I am looking Yes, quality loss in many cases... for the PPM, not derivatives. In the files dir I saw a message saying that You can get the ppm files by checking out the relevant cvs revision of that file (tigert's page even mentions the revision numbers) I vote for releasing gimp 1.2 with Tigert's 1.4 "floating balloon" splash screen. I was thinking of that too. People seem to like that one. the baloon, the rocket, or the new one are my faves for 1.2. I really like the newest one. Nice work. Adrian
