Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't want that. A library shared between many apps will have much more development and maintenance than a library only used by a single app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by other projects. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 04:58 AM, Owen wrote: if you built babl and gegl from scratch, no problems, but sounds like you might be using Ubuntu or fedora. So look in you package manager for things like gegl-dev and babl-dev If he is trying to build git master then the packages provided by his distro will not work since he basically needs git master of babl and GEGL too. If you built babl and gegl in some non standard directory, you need to tell the system where to find them, hence; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig There is method to deal with building for non-standard prefixes that is superior to manually managing the environment variables, and this method is config.site. Put this in the file /home/user/dev/share/config.site: # for development: export CFLAGS=-g -O0 export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This file will then be sourced by configure whenever it is invoked with the prefix /home/user/dev, so assuming you have all build dependencies, all you have to do to build babl, GEGL and GIMP is to clone all the repos from git://git.gnome.org/project and then do ./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/user/dev make make install in all of them, in that order. Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make and all dependencies will be processed properly with the right env vars set. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make That should of course be make make install / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 11:39 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make That should of course be make make install / Martin I should also mention that to run your fresh build of GIMP you don't need to setup any env vars at all since libtool have setup the rpaths in the binaries, so just doing /home/user/dev/bin/gimp-2.7 without messing with environment variables will launch GIMP 2.7. / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
Greg S. wrote: Greg S. wrote: Hi, i have already installed babl and gegl but still no good when using ./configure This is driving me nuts. What about the Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. part? If you need help to understand this one you should say so, otherwise people will assume that you are actually doing what it suggests. HTH, Michael Yes I need all the help I can get. Please advise me how to do this. PKG_CONFIG_PATH what am I to do to make this work. Please explain to me like I am a 5 year old. You don't say what you are using as an OS, but what you are missing in my mind, are the development files for gegl and babl if you built babl and gegl from scratch, no problems, but sounds like you might be using Ubuntu or fedora. So look in you package manager for things like gegl-dev and babl-dev If you built babl and gegl in some non standard directory, you need to tell the system where to find them, hence; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig hth I am using Centos 5.3 This sort of thing comes up continually when installing from tarball. (1) Is the library/package complained of on your system or not? (2) If it is, have you got the development package? - you'll need it. Check with your package manager or look for files on your system (typically in /usr) named name of package-devel: without it you can't proceed with compilation. If you haven't, get the development package from somewhere (installation disk, upgrading resource, or Googling for the tarball if necessary. (3) If you have, where are the libraries for that package installed? commonly /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, but may be /usr/lib64 or more outlandish places - Find File or equivalent is your friend. (4) use echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH to see where compilation is going to be looking for external programs - assuming you haven't resolved the problem already by this stage, the libaries you need will be in none of those places. (5) Use Find File for folders named pkgconfig or files ending in .pc(no quotes). You'll find quite a number. You should be able to recognise the relevant .pc file for your package amongst the names in the list. Note which folder it's in, e.g. /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.5.2/lib/pkgconfig (to quote a genuine outlandish example) (6) Then use the export PKG_CONFIG_PATH before configuring, i.e. export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/Trolltech/Qt-4.5.2/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH (This adds the new path to existing ones. Note: as a general rule *don't* use export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig or you'll completely replace the existing path for this session. You may need the existing path for other progs in the compilation). /configure make (then as root) make install HTH Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Are There Gimp Beginner Level Tutorials?
I'm a beginner and need to learn the basics. If there are tutorials where can I find them? LNF **Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove0001) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Are There Gimp Beginner Level Tutorials?
I'm a beginner and need to learn the basics. If there are tutorials where can I find them? If your interest is photography have a look at http://meetthegimp.org/ Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] babl
On 07/19/2009 11:39 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then after git pull --rebase you don't need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do make That should of course be make make install / Martin I should also mention that to run your fresh build of GIMP you don't need to setup any env vars at all since libtool have setup the rpaths in the binaries, so just doing /home/user/dev/bin/gimp-2.7 without messing with environment variables will launch GIMP 2.7. / Martin Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards greg -- Greg S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com -- Greg S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] -- Greg S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote: On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] You need to specify the project, try cd ~/source git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote: On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] You need to specify the project, try cd ~/source git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp / Martin I put babl, gegl gimp inside the square brackets it is now cloning repos. regards greg -- Greg S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote: On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] You need to specify the project, try cd ~/source git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp / Martin I put babl, gegl gimp inside the square brackets it is now cloning repos. regards greg I have all the repos from git for babl, gegl gimp. I have run ./configure and still configure can't find babl. What do I do next. This is driving me nuts. /Greg -- Greg S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote: On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many times. Please advise regards Exactly what commands do you use? / Martin These are the commands to set up git from the git site. git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey git config --global user.email rup...@example.com Plus below also from git site. To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell: git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project] You need to specify the project, try cd ~/source git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp / Martin I put babl, gegl gimp inside the square brackets it is now cloning repos. regards greg I have all the repos from git for babl, gegl gimp. I have run ./configure and still configure can't find babl. What do I do next. This is driving me nuts. /Greg Hi, I will bow out of this for the moment and thank Martin for his build instructions which I will try out. You might want to look at this, http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-04-23/gimp-master-for-ubuntu-9-04.html It *really* is that simple -- Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On 07/20/2009 02:05 AM, Greg S. wrote: I have all the repos from git for babl, gegl gimp. I have run ./configure and still configure can't find babl. What do I do next. This is driving me nuts. /Greg You are supposed to use ./autogen.sh, not ./configure. Calm down adn read my instructions again: http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2009-July/015313.html / Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
