[Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds

2011-02-02 Thread Jeremy Nell
I've asked this before, with no answers.  My aim, as a happy Gimp user, 
is not to slate the software, but to improve it.  I am not a developer, 
but rather a digital artist who uses Gimp extensively.

Working on large canvases, I see that Gimp slows down, where rendering 
is concerned.  For example, if I have a complex artwork and I want to 
hide certain layers, then a simple click on the eye icon in the layer 
takes a lot longer than it should.  As much as developers hate 
comparisons, this simple task is generally quicker in Photoshop.

Another obvious problem is that, again, on a large canvas (A4 and up, 
300DPI), the brushes - when increased in scale - lag behind the mouse / 
stylus.  This indicates to me that Gimp's rendering engine could be 
quicker.  Again, I've compared the exact same task in Photoshop (CS3) 
and it is considerably quicker (even with less RAM) allocated to it.

Speaking of which, I am using an i7 PC with 3 gigs of RAM allocated to 
Gimp alone, so I'm not sure how to make Gimp's response time any quicker.

Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker?  And what tips can 
anyone give?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds

2011-02-02 Thread peter kostov
On 02/02/2011 03:32 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote:
 I've asked this before, with no answers.  My aim, as a happy Gimp user,
 is not to slate the software, but to improve it.  I am not a developer,
 but rather a digital artist who uses Gimp extensively.

 Working on large canvases, I see that Gimp slows down, where rendering
 is concerned.  For example, if I have a complex artwork and I want to
 hide certain layers, then a simple click on the eye icon in the layer
 takes a lot longer than it should.  As much as developers hate
 comparisons, this simple task is generally quicker in Photoshop.

 Another obvious problem is that, again, on a large canvas (A4 and up,
 300DPI), the brushes - when increased in scale - lag behind the mouse /
 stylus.  This indicates to me that Gimp's rendering engine could be
 quicker.  Again, I've compared the exact same task in Photoshop (CS3)
 and it is considerably quicker (even with less RAM) allocated to it.

 Speaking of which, I am using an i7 PC with 3 gigs of RAM allocated to
 Gimp alone, so I'm not sure how to make Gimp's response time any quicker.

 Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker?  And what tips can
 anyone give?

Same here,

I would like some advice on this too :)

Regards,
Petar
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds

2011-02-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 02/02/2011 02:32 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote:
 Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker?

I'm afraid not; the next release of GIMP, GIMP 2.8, will not be quicker 
in this regard.

The release after that, GIMP 3.0, will focus on running on GTK 3.0 and 
bringing high bit depths into the picture.

3.2 will focus on non-destructiveness

Maybe in 3.4 we'll have time to solve this in a proper way.

  / Martin


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[Gimp-user] opening binary flat files

2011-02-02 Thread mintakax
Hi,
phorg...@yahoo.com (2011-02-01 at 1834.43 -0800):
 On 02/01/2011 01:24 PM, GSR - FR wrote:
  ... elision by patrick ...
  Ooops, right... yet another reminder of why I hate interfaces that
  hide and forget you opened the |. I just noticed the selector now,
  different than the filtering one.
 If the data has an extension of .data on the file name is it 
 automatically detected?

The hidden list shows no extension(s) for raw and .data files are
not shown when the other selector is set to All images, so I
doubt. You will probably have to open the dialog, change the filter to
show all files as well as pick RAW from the other list, then select
the file. Yes, it sounds repetitive and the forced format option seems
to be always closed and forgotten (tried it with PNGs). I also tried
drag and drop with random file named foo.data, it caused an error.

GSR

Thanks for all the replies !  When I pick All Files and then activate the 
Select File Type, the drop down list does not contain a RAW.. the list is 
alphabetical and PostScript document is followed by Scalable Graphic IRIS image 
?
The GIMP we have installed is 2.2.33  is this an old rev ?
And to answer a previous question, the results of the file command for these 
files I am trying to open is: data



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[Gimp-user] opening binary flat files

2011-02-02 Thread mintakax
Hi,
phorg...@yahoo.com (2011-02-01 at 1834.43 -0800):
 On 02/01/2011 01:24 PM, GSR - FR wrote:
  ... elision by patrick ...
  Ooops, right... yet another reminder of why I hate interfaces that
  hide and forget you opened the |. I just noticed the selector now,
  different than the filtering one.
 If the data has an extension of .data on the file name is it 
 automatically detected?

The hidden list shows no extension(s) for raw and .data files are
not shown when the other selector is set to All images, so I
doubt. You will probably have to open the dialog, change the filter to
show all files as well as pick RAW from the other list, then select
the file. Yes, it sounds repetitive and the forced format option seems
to be always closed and forgotten (tried it with PNGs). I also tried
drag and drop with random file named foo.data, it caused an error.

GSR

Thanks for all the replies !  When I pick All Files and then activate the 
Select File Type, the drop down list does not contain a RAW.. the list is 
alphabetical and PostScript document is followed by Scalable Graphic IRIS 
image ?
The GIMP we have installed is 2.2.33  is this an old rev ?
And to answer a previous question, the results of the file command for these 
files I am trying to open is: data


Sorry mistype-- the rev is 2.2.13

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds

2011-02-02 Thread Jeremy Nell
This is good to hear.  Rendering speed is important, especially if Gimp 
wants to be a viable competitor to the mainstream counterparts, where 
man-sized canvasses are concerned.



On 03/02/2011 03:18, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 02/02/2011 02:32 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote:

Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker?

I'm afraid not; the next release of GIMP, GIMP 2.8, will not be quicker
in this regard.

The release after that, GIMP 3.0, will focus on running on GTK 3.0 and
bringing high bit depths into the picture.

3.2 will focus on non-destructiveness

Maybe in 3.4 we'll have time to solve this in a proper way.


Actually, this may well be solved for GIMP 3.0 - as it will them most
depend on GEGL improvements.
Pippin has detailed the improvements that could be done on GEGL with
regards to speed rendering in a document he posted on Tuesday (I don't
remember if it was to this list):
mostly improvements that would allow the image viewport to be real
time rendered, while the real rendering would happen in background.

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[Gimp-user] Error no disk

2011-02-02 Thread friesenlyle
Ya, why do I have to always click continue on the no disk dialog every time I 
save or open an image in gimp. Also when using plug ins. Is it because my hard 
disk is labeled H and not C??? Help its annoying.

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