[Gimp-user] Text rendering

[zylstra]

>Did you make sure to use the same PPI value for the image in all
>applications?
What do those programs use for PPI?  I think Paint.net uses 96 PPI.  And how do
I change the PPI in GIMP?

>It doesn't have to be highlighted if you only change the settings for
>the whole text layer in the text tool options.
>
>This does not work if you have created at least one span of text by
>selecting it and changing its format with the on-canvas controls,
>though.
>
>We know that this can feel weird:
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631934
>
>We also know that highlighting is getting in the way:
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682764
>
>Suggestions and/or patches for overcoming both issues are welcome.
OK, I'll definitely report back if I dig in further.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

[Ofnuts]

On 05/28/17 00:34, mdn wrote:


Le 27/05/2017 23:24, Ofnuts a écrit :

On 05/27/17 17:47, mdn wrote:

Because recursive acronyms aren't funny ?
GIMP
Gnu Image Manipulator Program

GIMP Is My Photoshop

Heresy
But very nice find X)


I would have preferred GINP, as in "GINP Is Not Photoshop"
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

[mdn]

Le 27/05/2017 23:24, Ofnuts a écrit :
> On 05/27/17 17:47, mdn wrote:
>> Because recursive acronyms aren't funny ?
>> GIMP
>> Gnu Image Manipulator Program
> 
> GIMP Is My Photoshop
Heresy
But very nice find X)
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[Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[davitof]

>Am 27.05.2017 um 23:10 schrieb davitof:
>You could compare their .gimp-2.8 profile directories and find the
>differences. This directory is located in your Windows user profile
>directory.
>
>*Do not delete anything* too quickly - this will destroy all evidence
>which can help to investigate the problem.
>
>If at all, rename the .gimp-2.8 directory of the previous user
>account,
>GIMP will then create a new profile directory on the next launch.

Last episode: Gimp is now working perfectly in all users. I loaded it and closed
several times, I edited a few images, without any issue.

What did I do? I rebooted my system (because of wifi problems). So I suggest
this was really a Windows-Update-has-not-finished-but-did-not-say-so problem.

Now if you want me to do some tests, please ask. But from my point of view, this
matter is closed.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[davitof]

>My builds provide a logfile when they run. Can you send that to me?
>
>The logfile is located in your $TEMP folder and is called
>__gimpun-2.8-run.log (or similar). Your $TEMP folder is usually
>C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Temp
>
>You can contacted me at the email address on my website.
>
>Thanks,
>Partha

Thanks for your answer, Partha. I forgot to mention in my previous post that
your builds (at least the first one I tried, 2.9.5-std with full installer)
works perfectly in my new user. So it seems there is nothing wrong in your
build.

But if you are nonetheless interested in the log, I am sending it to you now. I
took a look at it, obviously there is something wrong with the fonts. Also, I
noticed references to a Z: drive, but I don't have any Z: drive.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Text rendering

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 27.05.2017 um 20:45 schrieb zylstra:

> By the way, the fact that the text must be highlighted makes sense.  I was 
> just
> coming from Image Composer, where all text in a selected box changes together.

It doesn't have to be highlighted if you only change the settings for
the whole text layer in the text tool options.

This does not work if you have created at least one span of text by
selecting it and changing its format with the on-canvas controls, though.


We know that this can feel weird:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631934

We also know that highlighting is getting in the way:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682764

Suggestions and/or patches for overcoming both issues are welcome.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 27.05.2017 um 23:10 schrieb davitof:

> New episode (will I have still newer ideas to test?):
> 
> I created a new Windows user and I installed Gimp 2.8.22. This worked 
> perfectly.
> 
> So now, how can I repair my usual user? Is there any way to find what is 
> wrong?

You could compare their .gimp-2.8 profile directories and find the
differences. This directory is located in your Windows user profile
directory.

*Do not delete anything* too quickly - this will destroy all evidence
which can help to investigate the problem.

If at all, rename the .gimp-2.8 directory of the previous user account,
GIMP will then create a new profile directory on the next launch.


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

[Ofnuts]

On 05/27/17 17:47, mdn wrote:

Because recursive acronyms aren't funny ?
GIMP
Gnu Image Manipulator Program


GIMP Is My Photoshop
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[Gimp-user] Gimp crashes on startup

[davitof]

New episode (will I have still newer ideas to test?):

I created a new Windows user and I installed Gimp 2.8.22. This worked perfectly.

So now, how can I repair my usual user? Is there any way to find what is wrong?

Of course, I can always jump to my new user each time I want to use Gimp, but
this is going to be very annoying.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Text rendering

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 27.05.2017 um 20:40 schrieb zylstra:
>> Am 27.05.2017 um 04:13 schrieb zylstra:
>> Did you use the same unit and the same value for the font size?

> I thought I used 30 pt font for all examples, but I just tried GIMP again see
> that the font is 99 pixels high - much bigger that the other ones.  I must 
> have
> set the value first then changed the unit, which changes the value again.  
> This,
> combined with the fact that the text must be highlighted to change it, made it
> difficult to determine what size I was creating.  But the size is still much
> different than the other programs, only much larger now.

Did you make sure to use the same PPI value for the image in all
applications?


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[Gimp-user] Text rendering

[zylstra]

>Am 27.05.2017 um 04:13 schrieb zylstra:
>Did you use the same unit and the same value for the font size?
I thought I used 30 pt font for all examples, but I just tried GIMP again see
that the font is 99 pixels high - much bigger that the other ones.  I must have
set the value first then changed the unit, which changes the value again.  This,
combined with the fact that the text must be highlighted to change it, made it
difficult to determine what size I was creating.  But the size is still much
different than the other programs, only much larger now.
>If you have e.g. used pixels in GIMP, and point in the other
>applications, then the results may vary.
>
>Modern Points are defined as 1/72th of an inch, and thus depend on the
>image's ppi value - in GIMP 2.8, the PPI value is 72 ppi by default,
>so
>it can be hard to notice a difference because one 1px equals 1 pt for
>this value  (we're changing it to 300 PPI for 2.10, btw).
Good info.  Thanks.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8.22 is wacky

[Nate Owens]

Exactly why I reverted to 2.6 - seems that the later revisions have bugs
(or worse)?

*Nate Owens*
www.nateowens.com
nateowen...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 12:02 AM, Carol Spears 
wrote:

> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Nate Owens 
> wrote:
> >
> > My problem regarding the difference between 2.8 and 2.6  was referenced
> in
> > the original message regarding the inability to select the move tool in
> 2.8
> > (which resulted in selection of the path tool instead of the move tool) I
> > think that I adequately stated that that inability, present in 2.8
> > functions as it should in 2.6
> >
> It used to be that when a guide is grabbed from the rulers, the tool
> would change from whatever to the move tool.
>
> That no longer happens.  I filed this bug report:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765023
>
> I miss the old behavior very much.  I am undoing many unintentional
> paint strokes now.
>
> I console myself thinking that the developers have been pestered to
> this unreasonable end by some nefarious and wrong thinking people.
>
> carol
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Text rendering

[Michael Schumacher]

Am 27.05.2017 um 04:13 schrieb zylstra:

> Hi, as you can see from my attached graphic comparing text rendering, GIMP
> renders text significantly smaller than other programs, including Paint.net,
> Image Composer, and MS Word.  (Oddly GIMP calls the font Impact Condensed,
> whereas all the other programs call it Impact.  However, I compared renderings
> with Courier New and got the same results.)
>  Why is this?  Can this be fixed?

Did you use the same unit and the same value for the font size?

> Attachments:
> * 
> http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/592/original/text_rendering_comparison.png

If you have e.g. used pixels in GIMP, and point in the other
applications, then the results may vary.

Modern Points are defined as 1/72th of an inch, and thus depend on the
image's ppi value - in GIMP 2.8, the PPI value is 72 ppi by default, so
it can be hard to notice a difference because one 1px equals 1 pt for
this value  (we're changing it to 300 PPI for 2.10, btw).


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[Gimp-user] Text rendering

[zylstra]

Hi, as you can see from my attached graphic comparing text rendering, GIMP
renders text significantly smaller than other programs, including Paint.net,
Image Composer, and MS Word.  (Oddly GIMP calls the font Impact Condensed,
whereas all the other programs call it Impact.  However, I compared renderings
with Courier New and got the same results.)
 Why is this?  Can this be fixed?

Attachments:
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/592/original/text_rendering_comparison.png

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