Re: Encrypted repositories

2012-09-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt

  Well, everybody can access the objects, but they're encrypted,
  so you need the repo key (which, of course isn't contained in
  the repo itself ;-p) to decrypt them.
 
 So, in short, blobs are not encrypted with the hash of their
 contents as encryption keys at all.

No, the blobs are encrypted with their content hash as key, and the
encrypted blob will be stored with it's content hash as object id.

  For the usecases I have in mind (backups, filesharing, etc) this
  wouldn't hurt so much, if the objects are compressed before
  encryption.
 
 For that kind of usage pattern, you are better off looking at
 encrypted tarballs or zip archives.

No, that doesn't give us anything like history, incremental
synchronization, etc, etc.

What I finnaly wanna has is a usual git, just with encryption,
but I can live with loosing differential compression.


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Re: Encrypted repositories

2012-09-07 Thread David Aguilar
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz wrote:

  Well, everybody can access the objects, but they're encrypted,
  so you need the repo key (which, of course isn't contained in
  the repo itself ;-p) to decrypt them.

 So, in short, blobs are not encrypted with the hash of their
 contents as encryption keys at all.

 No, the blobs are encrypted with their content hash as key, and the
 encrypted blob will be stored with it's content hash as object id.

  For the usecases I have in mind (backups, filesharing, etc) this
  wouldn't hurt so much, if the objects are compressed before
  encryption.

 For that kind of usage pattern, you are better off looking at
 encrypted tarballs or zip archives.

 No, that doesn't give us anything like history, incremental
 synchronization, etc, etc.

 What I finnaly wanna has is a usual git, just with encryption,
 but I can live with loosing differential compression.

Something like this?

https://gist.github.com/873637

I've never tried it myself, who knows if it works, but google found it
when I searched for git clean smudge filter encryption.

I hope that helps,
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Re: Encrypted repositories

2012-09-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi,

 Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz writes:
 
  * blobs are encrypted with their (original) content hash as
encryption keys
 
 What does this even mean?
 
 Is it expected that anybody who has access to the repository can
 learn names of objects (e.g. by running ls .git/objects/??/)? If
 so, from whom are you protecting your repository?

Well, everybody can access the objects, but they're encrypted,
so you need the repo key (which, of course isn't contained in
the repo itself ;-p) to decrypt them.

The whole tree will still be consistent even without encryption
support (so, gc etc shouldn't break), but to actually _use_ the
repo (eg. checkout or adding new commits), you'll need the
encryption support and the repo key (well, committing should
theoretically even work with diffrent repo key, even this doesn't
make much sense ;-)).

 How does this encryption interact with delta compression employed
 in pack generation?

Probably not at all ;-o
For the usecases I have in mind (backups, filesharing, etc) this
wouldn't hurt so much, if the objects are compressed before encryption.


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Re: Encrypted repositories

2012-09-06 Thread Junio C Hamano
Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz writes:

 Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz writes:
 
  * blobs are encrypted with their (original) content hash as
encryption keys
 
 What does this even mean?
 
 Is it expected that anybody who has access to the repository can
 learn names of objects (e.g. by running ls .git/objects/??/)? If
 so, from whom are you protecting your repository?

 Well, everybody can access the objects, but they're encrypted,
 so you need the repo key (which, of course isn't contained in
 the repo itself ;-p) to decrypt them.

So, in short, blobs are not encrypted with the hash of their
contents as encryption keys at all.

 How does this encryption interact with delta compression employed
 in pack generation?

 Probably not at all ;-o

 For the usecases I have in mind (backups, filesharing, etc) this
 wouldn't hurt so much, if the objects are compressed before encryption.

For that kind of usage pattern, you are better off looking at
encrypted tarballs or zip archives.

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Re: Encrypted repositories

2012-09-05 Thread Junio C Hamano
Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz writes:

 * blobs are encrypted with their (original) content hash as
   encryption keys

What does this even mean?

Is it expected that anybody who has access to the repository can
learn names of objects (e.g. by running ls .git/objects/??/)? If
so, from whom are you protecting your repository?

How does this encryption interact with delta compression employed in
pack generation?
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