Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
Derek D. Martin wrote: What happened to Alt-F[1-n] to switch to the appropriately- numbered desktop? Do you mean virtual console? They still do, just as they always have, unless you're in X, just like they never did. I mean X. In 6.2 w/Enlightenment, Alt-Fn switches to the Nth virtual desktop. 'Sokey, I guess I'll either get used to C-M-Fn or else figure out how to tell Sawfish to map it. Why don't my rxvt title bars track `whoami`@`hostname`: `pwd` the way they used to do? And what happened to Shift-uparrow/downarrow for one-line scrolling? The answer to the first is that rxvt wasn't being recognised by the case statement in /etc/bashrc as an 'xterm'. Dunno if that's because of something I do or not, but editing the file fixed it. (See the PROMPT_COMMAND stuff there.) No answers yet on the second problem. I didn't realise these things were at such low revs; thanks! -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ All right everyone! Step away from the glowing hamburger! ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'Sokey, I guess I'll either get used to C-M-Fn or else figure out how to tell Sawfish to map it. Settings - Shortcuts will get you there. --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark (CetaceanNetworks.com!kclark) | Cetacean Networks, Inc. | Give me a decent UNIX Portsmouth, N.H. (USA)| and I can move the world alumni.unh.edu!kdc (PGP Key Available)| ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
ARGH!! Sawfish seems to have the look I want (reminiscent of Enlightenment on RH 6.2), but it FORGETS MY WINDOW PLACEMENT! (Yes, that is a shout; a scream, actually, of frustration.) And I said 'save setup' when I logged off.. I habitually use 6 virtual desktops with two xrvt windows in each. Rebooting and entering X, all of the frelling xrvt windows are in the first desktop. I'm going to go bang my head on the wall now.. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ All right everyone! Step away from the glowing hamburger! ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
Rodent of Unusual Size said: Sawfish seems to have the look I want (reminiscent of Enlightenment on RH 6.2), but it FORGETS MY WINDOW PLACEMENT! (Yes, that is a shout; a scream, actually, of frustration.) [In the tone and voice of John Cusack at the beer bash in _Say Anything_] YOU MUST CHILL! Sawfish will let you do that, but you must do it on a per-window basis using the history menu from the control menu of the window. I've attached a PNG so you can see what I'm talking about, since that description is so vague... Hope that helps... Now go ask your boss for some time off. =8^) -- Derek Martin Senior System Administrator Mission Critical Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] junk.png PGP signature
Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
Derek D. Martin wrote:
[In the tone and voice of John Cusack at the beer bash in _Say
Anything_] YOU MUST CHILL!
Yeargh. I need RH 7.1 for some stuff, and having the frelling
wm get in my way is not making me happy. It's supposed to make
life easier, not become an obstacle..
Sawfish will let you do that, but you must do it on a
per-window basis using the history menu from the control
menu of the window.
No go. Did that on a selection of windows after moving
them to the appropriate locations and workspaces, logged
out with 'save current setup', logged back in -- and they're
all still in the first workspace and only the most recent
one I 'saved' seems to have remembered its screen position.
This is the Sawfish that came with RH 7.1, plus any rpm -F
from the updates.redhat.com site. It says it's Sawfish 0.36.
I imagine that's so old that the answer is going to be 'upgrade',
which I intensely dislike doing for too many RH-supplied
components..
{sigh}
I have a lot to get done, and my boss doesn't have anything
to do with this.
Thanks for the [ongoing] help.
--
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Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodent of Unusual Size said: This is the Sawfish that came with RH 7.1, plus any rpm -F from the updates.redhat.com site. It says it's Sawfish 0.36. I imagine that's so old that the answer is going to be 'upgrade', which I intensely dislike doing for too many RH-supplied components.. Ugh. Yeah, probably. If that didn't do it for you, you'll probably need the version that's in Ximian. I'm pretty sure it worked in that one. The only thing that I found DIDN'T work was that if you tried to make a window sticky and have it remember the sticky attributes, when you restarted your session, the WM would TELL you it was sticky (i.e. the button would be checked), but it sure wouldn't stick... Hmph. I have a lot to get done, and my boss doesn't have anything to do with this. Maybe not, but it seems to me you need a week on a sunny beach, regardless! Thanks for the [ongoing] help. NP. - -- Derek Martin Senior System Administrator Mission Critical Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7vgZWdjdlQoHP510RAvhZAJ4qobPEH4z53d2gxXLce7n9xDXahgCfc+S4 20+38zxJaVhR1mAUx9WD/dY= =M4uF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Windowing changes from RH 6.2 to 7.1
On 5 Oct, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: I mean X. In 6.2 w/Enlightenment, Alt-Fn switches to the Nth virtual desktop. 'Sokey, I guess I'll either get used to C-M-Fn or else figure out how to tell Sawfish to map it. Just to clarify - C-M-Fn will get you to the text console, not to the Nth virtual desktop (you may have discovered this already). I haven't used Sawfish, so I have no idea what they might use for default keys for that (WindowMaker uses Alt-n for the Nth desktop, but I always switch it back to Alt-Fn, FWIW). -- Stephen RyanDebian GNU/Linux Technology Coordinator Center for Educational Outcomes at Dartmouth College ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Samba Printing.
First, sort of an apology. I ask for a fair amount of help and I really appreciate those that answer. My job does NOT require that I have any hands on Linux skills, although I'm very well versed on how and where to use Linux and how to build clusters. I try to learn Linux because I want to, somewhat as a hobby. Despite a room full of books and the Linux Documentation Project it can be a very daunting task. I know that I should first read the How-to's, etc. I do. Unfortunately this often leads to greater confusion, not less. I've a fairly simple task ahead. I'm trying to retire my old NT box. However it still has a printer attached. My network is one W2K box, one WinME box and about 5 Win98SE boxes. The Linux box is a server and I've never worried about printing from it. I'd like to attach a Lexmark Laser Printer up to the server. If I read the Howto's they talk about the print$ share for printer drivers. However, I find nothing in any of the sample SMB.CONF files, nor anything comprehensible in the files included with Samba. Could someone outline the basic steps needed to attach and share a printer to my Linux Samba server (which is up and running), starting right after I connect the parallel cable? By the way, if the correct answer is to install something like SWAT or some other Samba tool that's fine. Thanks, GGK ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
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Re: Samba Printing.
In a message dated: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 15:24:18 EDT Greg Kettmann said: First, sort of an apology. I ask for a fair amount of help and I really appreciate those that answer. Well, we appreciate the appreciation. Additionally, we also expect that as you learn this stuff, that you will also help us answer these types of questions when they pop back up in the future. Pay it forward, as the movie title indicated :) My job does NOT require that I have any hands on Linux skills, although I'm very well versed on how and where to use Linux and how to build clusters. Neither do the jobs 98% of the Linux using population :) I try to learn Linux because I want to, somewhat as a hobby. Hmm, hobby, no, this is a chore, a hobby is kite flying or something :) Despite a room full of books and the Linux Documentation Project it can be a very daunting task. Absolutely, especially when you consider a lot of the docs there are out of date, written by people who had little more knowledge of the subject than you, and in many cases, speak english as a second or third language! That being said, it still remains the best source of information in many, many cases! I know that I should first read the How-to's, etc. I do. Unfortunately this often leads to greater confusion, not less. Well, a good foundation in Unix is a big help when learning Linux. Also, being well versed in system administration also helps immensely, since you are in fact a system administrator for your home systems (unless you have the spare cash to pay someone to do this for you at home. If you do, please let me know, I'll gladly be your personal sysadmin for the right price :) Short of already being a sysadmin or having a strong foundation in all things Unix, the best 2 things you can do are read and do. Those are the only ways you'll actually learn and retain all this stuff. Sometimes you need to read many, many times :) I've found that in many cases the best course of action is to find documentation distributed with the software you're dealing with. In most cases, these docs are better than what you'll find at the LDP. Also, for generic Unix things like printing, modem connection, etc. I HIGHLY recommend The UNIX System Admistrator Handbook by Evi Nemeth, et. al. This is perhaps the single most useful book I've ever read, and 99% of it applies to Linux as well as commercial variants of Unix. With this one book, you can figure out how to do almost anything at the system level (i.e. not 3rd party add-on sw config e.g. samba). I've a fairly simple task ahead. I'm trying to retire my old NT box. However it still has a printer attached. My network is one W2K box, one WinME box and about 5 Win98SE boxes. The Linux box is a server and I've never worried about printing from it. I'd like to attach a Lexmark Laser Printer up to the server. If I read the Howto's they talk about the print$ share for printer drivers. However, I find nothing in any of the sample SMB.CONF files, nor anything comprehensible in the files included with Samba. Could someone outline the basic steps needed to attach and share a printer to my Linux Samba server (which is up and running), starting right after I connect the parallel cable? Okay, this is fairly straighforward: 1. Set up said printer on Linux and get printing working here first. Once you do this, everything else will Just Work(tm) :) 2. Set up a printer share under samba server 3. Restart samba 4. Set up Windows clients Let's tackle #1 first. This is going to be fairly straightforward for either RH or Debian since the methods are the same. If you have something else like SuSE or Mandrake, I can only say see your distribution specific documentation! :) For either RH or Debian, make sure that printtool is installed. For RH, install the printtool and all associated rpms. For Debian, apt-get install printtool As root, run printtool, configure printer appropriately[1] You should probably get a window with an empty list of printer queues unless you already have a /etc/printcap file with entries in it. The following actions are based on printtool 4.5-3 on Debian, if you have a RH7.x system, you should be able to extrapolate the approptiate mouse clicks. Select add (a new window will pop up) Select Local printer and hit okay - a new window will pop up - The defaults should be fine, change them if you wish and understand what you're doing. Click on the 'Select' button - yet another window will pop up - find the closest description of your printer - If you have RH6.x and an HP LaserJet, we've found that the Generic Postscript filter works best if you don't find a Type that matches exactly. - Select any other options you are
Re: Samba Printing.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Also, for generic Unix things like printing, modem connection, etc. I HIGHLY recommend The UNIX System Admistrator Handbook by Evi Nemeth, et. al. This is perhaps the single most useful book I've ever read, and 99% of it applies to Linux as well as commercial variants of Unix. With this one book, you can figure out how to do almost anything at the system level (i.e. not 3rd party add-on sw config e.g. samba). Oh, c'mon: you left out the single coolest thing about the book. According to its Foreward, The initial draft of the first edition of this book was called 'UNIX System Administration Made Difficult', which seemed appropriate: the '... Made Simple' style of books always seemed to gloss over so many details that they actually made the job harder. Also, unless I'm mistaken (which I'm certain could never happen), I believe the newest edition has a section or two which are Linux-specific; might be very helpful to see what they have to say. So, in summary, I concur with Paul: a definite two thumbs up on The UNIX System Admistrator Handbook. -Ken ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Samba Printing.
In a message dated: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:14:32 PDT Ken Ambrose said: Also, unless I'm mistaken (which I'm certain could never happen), I believe the newest edition has a section or two which are Linux-specific; might be very helpful to see what they have to say. Yes it does, and not only that, they are working on a Linux specific version, titled appropriately enough, The Linux System Administrator Handbook. I'm not sure when it's due out, it's being edited and proof-read. ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
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With all the questions about CD Recording, and the suggestion of this as a meeting topic at the last SLUG meeting, we have a topic. The meeting will cover some of the options for writing CDR and CDRW disks under Linux. Programs that will be covered include: mkisofs cdrecord xcdroast gcombust cdrdao Bring your knowledge and/or questions and we'll try to get to two together. SLUG meetings are held in Morse Hall rm 301 the second monday of every month. Directions can be found at http://www.slug.org. -- Robert E. Anderson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programmer phone: (603) 862-3489 UNH Research Computing Centerfax: (603) 862-1761 -- ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug-announce ** ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
