Re: Linux on Playstation 2???

2002-02-01 Thread Paul Iadonisi

  Not only that, but did you see this from 
http://www.wired.com/news/linux/0,1411,50124,00.html:

===
Some show attendees wondered whether applications and games developed on the Sony 
platform could be freely distributed online as other Linux applications often are.
 .
 .
 .
The Sony official said the distribution licensing of developed programs had not yet 
been finalized and said that the company would release full details on its PlayStation 
website within a month or so.
===

  The utter arrogance.  (I say that with a yawn, though.)  Does Sony actually
believe that they have a right to dictate to developers what distribution
licensing they must use for *their own code*?  Especially atop a GPLed
kernel and many GPLed (GNU) support tools?


On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:04:28PM -0500, Rich C wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike McKernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Greater NH Linux Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Linux on Playstation 2???
 
 
  The beta version of the PS2 Linux Kit consists of a software DVD-ROM
  (Digital Versatile Disc), a hard disk drive unit, a USB (Universal
  Serial Bus) keyboard, a USB mouse, and VGA (Video Graphics Array)
  adaptor. At first, 1,000 kits will be distributed through SCEI's
  Playstation.com web site and that number could be increased according
  to the demand, the company reported.
 
 
 Jeeze. Why don't you just buy a computer and put Linux on it? You're getting
 everything but the processor and ram here anyway... They make computer video
 cards you can hook up to the TV to get lousy quality video, if that's what
 you're looking for.
 
 I think a WAY more useful mod would be something that would turn my
 girlfriend's Gameboy Advance into a Linux-based PDA. All you really need for
 that is writable mass storage and some kind of keyboard. It's already got
 video, a pointing device, read-only storage, and sound!
 
 Rich Cloutier
 President, C*O
 SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES
 www.sysupport.com
 
 
 
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Re: Corporate arrogance (was: Linux on Playstation 2???)

2002-02-01 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote:
 I immediately vowed to refuse to purchase any Soni products eternally.

  The problem is, between Sony, Disney, and AOL/TW, they own damn near
everything.  :-(

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Linux on Playstation 2???

2002-01-31 Thread Jack Hodgson

I'm surprised there hasn't been any comment about this report here.

This linux-newbie (me) is curious what you old vets think about this.

FYI http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_717468_6995_1-3133.html

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Re: Linux on Playstation 2???

2002-01-31 Thread Derek D. Martin

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Jack Hodgson said:

 I'm surprised there hasn't been any comment about this report here.
 
 This linux-newbie (me) is curious what you old vets think about this.
 
 FYI http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_717468_6995_1-3133.html

- From what I've heard, I think Sony is asking for trouble from the FSF
and the Linux community.  I understand they intend to sell their Linux
kit for about $200 and only intend to make it available for purchase
from their site.

I personally don't own a PS2, and I certainly wouldn't buy one just
because it runs Linux.  And I definitely wouldn't pay $200 for free
software.

- -- 
Derek Martin
Senior System Administrator
Mission Critical Linux
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Re: Linux on Playstation 2???

2002-01-31 Thread Mike McKernan

 Derek == Derek D Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following on Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:18:41 -0500

  Derek - From what I've heard, I think Sony is asking for trouble
  Derek from the FSF and the Linux community.  I understand they
  Derek intend to sell their Linux kit for about $200 and only
  Derek intend to make it available for purchase from their site.

  Derek I personally don't own a PS2, and I certainly wouldn't buy
  Derek one just because it runs Linux.  And I definitely wouldn't
  Derek pay $200 for free software.

It's not clear that there's a licensing problem here.  Sony plans
to sell a hardware/software kit for ps/2.  

See http://www.idg.net/idgns/2001/05/07/SonyBowsToPressureUnveilsLinux.shtml

The beta version of the PS2 Linux Kit consists of a software DVD-ROM
(Digital Versatile Disc), a hard disk drive unit, a USB (Universal
Serial Bus) keyboard, a USB mouse, and VGA (Video Graphics Array)
adaptor. At first, 1,000 kits will be distributed through SCEI's
Playstation.com web site and that number could be increased according
to the demand, the company reported.


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Re: Linux on Playstation 2???

2002-01-31 Thread Rich C


- Original Message -
From: Mike McKernan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Linux on Playstation 2???


 The beta version of the PS2 Linux Kit consists of a software DVD-ROM
 (Digital Versatile Disc), a hard disk drive unit, a USB (Universal
 Serial Bus) keyboard, a USB mouse, and VGA (Video Graphics Array)
 adaptor. At first, 1,000 kits will be distributed through SCEI's
 Playstation.com web site and that number could be increased according
 to the demand, the company reported.


Jeeze. Why don't you just buy a computer and put Linux on it? You're getting
everything but the processor and ram here anyway... They make computer video
cards you can hook up to the TV to get lousy quality video, if that's what
you're looking for.

I think a WAY more useful mod would be something that would turn my
girlfriend's Gameboy Advance into a Linux-based PDA. All you really need for
that is writable mass storage and some kind of keyboard. It's already got
video, a pointing device, read-only storage, and sound!

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES
www.sysupport.com



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