Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C

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Subject: Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)


> On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)
> >
> > Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?
> >
> > According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :)
>
> That's integer math.  IIRC the actual clock speed is 166.66
>
> -Mark
>

Actually, the true clock speed of most motherboards is not exactly what
the specs say anyway. In fact, this is how some motherboard
manufacturers get higher benchmark figures--by overclocking the system
slightly. So your 1000 MHz PIII might be running at 1003 MHz in one
motherboard and 1001.5 MHz in another motherboard, and 998.5 MHz in
still a third motherboard.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES
www.sysupport.com



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Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C

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> In a message dated: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:49:44 -
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> >Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)
> 
> Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?
> 
> According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :)
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No, marketing types don't use decimal points :)

Rich Cloutier
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Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)
> 
> Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?
> 
> According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :)

Oh, well, if it's only 332 and *NOT* 333 as advertised, then I don't
want it ;-)


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Kenneth E. Lussier
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Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Mark Komarinski

On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)
> 
> Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?
> 
> According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :)

That's integer math.  IIRC the actual clock speed is 166.66

-Mark


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Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread pll

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In a message dated: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:49:44 -
"Rich C" said:

>Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)

Are they using Intel floating point precision to compute that?

According my math, 166 * 2 = 332 :)
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Seeya,
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Re: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-23 Thread Rich C


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From: "Benjamin Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)


>   Are we sufficiently confused yet?  :-)
>
BAH! It's easy!

Just remember that DDR333 is double the actual clock speed (166MHz)
because it's "Double" Data Rate memory, and that it's equivalent
"PC" number is 8 times that, or PC2700 (more or less.)

Rich Cloutier
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Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott

On 21 Apr 2002, at 12:15pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
> One of the problems is that there seem to be many different levels of DDR
> (ranging from PC1600 to PC3200).

  Heh.  Well, PC66, PC100, and PC133 all refer to the clock speed of the bus
driving the memory.  66 MHz, 100 MHz, and 133 MHz.  After that, sanity
departs.

  You see, along came RAMBUS, which uses a much higher clock (600 MHz or 800
MHz), but with a much narrower data bus (8-bit, I think).  So RAMBUS could
advertise PC800 RAM, which fooled stupid people into think that PC800 was
eight times better than PC100.

  So the SDRAM camp decided to come up with a designation that measured the
"memory bandwidth", resulting in designations like PC1600, which fooled
stupid people into thinking that PC1600 was twice as better as PC800 RAMBUS.

  (Smart people like you and me just go, "WTF is with all these numbers?!?")

  For the record, PC400 and PC800 are RAMBUS RAM (RDRAM), which is evil.  
PC1600 is DDR with an actual clock of 100 MHz and an effective clock of 200
MHz.  PC2100 is DDR with an actual clock of 133 MHz and an effective clock
of 266 MHz.  I am not sure on the DDR300 and DDR333 stuff, other than to say
that I have heard rumor that some of it is just overclocked DDR266.

  Are we sufficiently confused yet?  :-)

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