Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
Paul Lussier wrote: > > In a message dated: 18 Mar 2002 17:39:20 EST > "Kenneth E. Lussier" said: > > >In order to use Yahoo's smtp, you need to be a member of "Yahoo > >Deliveries", which I believe is free. > > Errr, what's Yahoo! Deliveries? "Yahoo! Deliveries" is basically an opt-in spam service. If you sign up for it, you give them permission to share your address with "carefully selected partners" (read: We sell your e-mail address to anyone willing to pay us for it) so they can "share special offers only available to members" (read: so they can bombard you with more junk mail than anyone could ever handle). > > The URL with the instructions is: > >http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-04.html. > > Now that I look at this site, I remember trying these directions from > within Evolution's client, and they didn't work, basically because > Evolution doesn't support whatever kind of authenticated smtp that > Yahoo inisist upon. It may not be the authentication method that is the problem, since it appears to be a standard username/password scheme. It may be that you aren't a Yahoo Delivers member, and that is the database that they authenticate against. C-Ya, Kenny -- --- Kenneth E. Lussier Geek by nature, Linux by choice PGP KeyID C0D2BA57 Public key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC0D2BA57 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
In a message dated: 18 Mar 2002 17:39:20 EST "Kenneth E. Lussier" said: >In order to use Yahoo's smtp, you need to be a member of "Yahoo >Deliveries", which I believe is free. Errr, what's Yahoo! Deliveries? > The URL with the instructions is: >http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-04.html. Now that I look at this site, I remember trying these directions from within Evolution's client, and they didn't work, basically because Evolution doesn't support whatever kind of authenticated smtp that Yahoo inisist upon. -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
In order to use Yahoo's smtp, you need to be a member of "Yahoo Deliveries", which I believe is free. The URL with the instructions is: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-04.html. C-Ya, Kenny On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 17:26, Paul Lussier wrote: > In a message dated: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:21:35 EST > "Tom Buskey" said: > > >Does Yahoo have POP? Anyone know of a free, long term, POPable, web > >enabled email site? > > Ayup! I've been using yahoo for a while now. And, supposedly, you > can relay off their servers for outgoing too, provided you enable > some authentication mechanism. However, I haven't figured out how to > do that yet, and it's none of the auth methods provided with > Evolution, and it's not smtp+auth either. > > But yahoo.com does do POP3 mail accessible with fetchmail! > -- > > Seeya, > Paul > > It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, >but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. > >If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! > > > > * > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. > * -- "In conclusion, please be wary where authority reigns" -- Warrior Soul Kenneth E. Lussier Sr. Systems Administrator Zuken, USA PGP KeyID CB254DD0 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB254DD0 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:21:35 EST "Tom Buskey" said: >Does Yahoo have POP? Anyone know of a free, long term, POPable, web >enabled email site? Ayup! I've been using yahoo for a while now. And, supposedly, you can relay off their servers for outgoing too, provided you enable some authentication mechanism. However, I haven't figured out how to do that yet, and it's none of the auth methods provided with Evolution, and it's not smtp+auth either. But yahoo.com does do POP3 mail accessible with fetchmail! -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
Michael Costolo said: >Fortunately I try to avoid using ISP email accounts. I've changed ISPs too ma >ny >times and know how hard it is to get everyone to update their address books th >at I >just give out my Yahoo! address making life simpler. > >-Mike- I've been using netaddress.net/usa.net for a number of years now. But they're starting to charge for accounts. I like it because I can use fetchmail with it & it's easy to put out there. Does Yahoo have POP? Anyone know of a free, long term, POPable, web enabled email site? -- --- Tom Buskey * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
This is very true indeed. AT&T had to transition a great deal of accounts and there are plenty of us who got left behind. Repeated emails to tech support, lots of time spent on hold with customer support got me a lot of "your account will be transitioned soon" responses, but no email account @attbi.com (not even yet). They're supposedly working on it now, but only because someone technically inclined saw a newsgroup post of mine and emailed me directly. Fortunately I try to avoid using ISP email accounts. I've changed ISPs too many times and know how hard it is to get everyone to update their address books that I just give out my Yahoo! address making life simpler. -Mike- --- David Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > > > I've been pestering Mr. Gelinas about this privately > > for some time and no, we cannot simply substitute > > attbi.com for mediaone.net because a 1:1 mapping was > > not possible due to duplicates in the two domains. > > > > Any AT&T customer who hasn't taken responsibility for > > effecting the necessary changes by now despite the > > months-long barrage of email, phone and postal notices > > from AT&T has effectively elected to be unsubscribed. > > Maybe, but I would use the "elected" word VERY carefully > here... I know of a few users who are still on the very > edge of even knowing how to turn their system on. > > I had to help a family change over last week when they > became totally confused by the crap AT&T wrote (both the > instructions and software). They eventually downloaded > the "conversion software", but it didn't work as > advertised so it was a double whammy for them. I'll bet > there are more than a few customers out there who had no > clue as to what AT&T told them to do and never figured > out what to do (and those that finally did figure out > the instructions may have run into complications due to > the software's "assumption" that M$ was the only supplier > of browser/email tools to be ported/supported). > > Oh yes, before suggesting they should have called tech > support, they did, and eventually gave up - then my phone > rang... > > In other words, another SNAFU (complements of AT&T)! > > dlr > > > > > * > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. > > * > > -- > Windows - the world's MOST EXPENSIVE virus. > Be sure to immunize your PC with Linux - today! > > * > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. > * __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > I've been pestering Mr. Gelinas about this privately > for some time and no, we cannot simply substitute > attbi.com for mediaone.net because a 1:1 mapping was > not possible due to duplicates in the two domains. > > Any AT&T customer who hasn't taken responsibility for > effecting the necessary changes by now despite the > months-long barrage of email, phone and postal notices > from AT&T has effectively elected to be unsubscribed. Maybe, but I would use the "elected" word VERY carefully here... I know of a few users who are still on the very edge of even knowing how to turn their system on. I had to help a family change over last week when they became totally confused by the crap AT&T wrote (both the instructions and software). They eventually downloaded the "conversion software", but it didn't work as advertised so it was a double whammy for them. I'll bet there are more than a few customers out there who had no clue as to what AT&T told them to do and never figured out what to do (and those that finally did figure out the instructions may have run into complications due to the software's "assumption" that M$ was the only supplier of browser/email tools to be ported/supported). Oh yes, before suggesting they should have called tech support, they did, and eventually gave up - then my phone rang... In other words, another SNAFU (complements of AT&T)! dlr > > * > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. > * -- Windows - the world's MOST EXPENSIVE virus. Be sure to immunize your PC with Linux - today! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:10:11AM -0800, Karl J. Runge wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Mark, > > > > It appears that AT&T has finally done away with the 'mediaone.net' > > domain, and now, e-mails to the GNHLUG list are bouncing to any > > '@mediaone.net' address. > > Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. > This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. Actually that's not true. Someone else has my e-mail address now, and I need to call the bastards to get it straightened out. - -- Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8liBJdjdlQoHP510RAvtHAJ9CkSpUFB/3crJ41lJ0YjQN73MMWwCgr+ph r+RBTeHzaaNDs739WBo7Cd4= =6h/s -END PGP SIGNATURE- * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
I've been pestering Mr. Gelinas about this privately for some time and no, we cannot simply substitute attbi.com for mediaone.net because a 1:1 mapping was not possible due to duplicates in the two domains. Any AT&T customer who hasn't taken responsibility for effecting the necessary changes by now despite the months-long barrage of email, phone and postal notices from AT&T has effectively elected to be unsubscribed. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
No, this is a bad idea since many former mediaone.net users had to change their user ids. In the case of those who changed user ids, by doing a change, you will be sending gnhlug email to someone (probably a former @home user) else. On 18 Mar 2002 at 8:10, Karl J. Runge wrote: > > Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. > This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. -- Jerry Feldman Portfolio Partner Engineering 508-467-4315 http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/linux/ Compaq Computer Corp. 200 Forest Street MRO1-3/F1 Marlboro, Ma. 01752 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Bayard Coolidge USG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Karl J. Runge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > >>> Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. > >>> This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. > > NO!! There was NOT necessarily a 1:1 change made - there were some > username conflicts whereby the former mediaone.net customers had to > acquire new usernames in the attbi.com namespace. OK, OK, sorry for the 90% solution. (The unix way, btw!) * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
"Karl J. Runge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. >>> This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. NO!! There was NOT necessarily a 1:1 change made - there were some username conflicts whereby the former mediaone.net customers had to acquire new usernames in the attbi.com namespace. Those who were so affected should have, by now, realize that they are no longer seeing traffic from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and if they care to re-subscribe can do so from their new addresses and notify our list-owner of the needed changes. Bayard * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:18:06 EST mike ledoux said: >On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:10:11AM -0800, Karl J. Runge wrote: >> > It appears that AT&T has finally done away with the 'mediaone.net' >> > domain, and now, e-mails to the GNHLUG list are bouncing to any >> > '@mediaone.net' address. >> >> Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. >> This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. > >No, it isn't. Many former MediaOne subscribers had their accounts >renamed to avoid collisions with existing attbi.com accounts. Which is why I said: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, "pll" == [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: pll> If they really want to be on this list, they'll have to pll> re-sub with their new address, since it's not necessarilly pll> just a domain change. In many cases their username has pll> changed as well. :) -- Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://www.gnhlug.org/lug_cal/month.php * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Mark, > > It appears that AT&T has finally done away with the 'mediaone.net' > domain, and now, e-mails to the GNHLUG list are bouncing to any > '@mediaone.net' address. Could also do a s/mediaone.net/attbi.com/ in the list file. This is the change that AT&T Broadband Internet (attbi) did. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Please remove all 'mediaone.net' addresses
Mark, It appears that AT&T has finally done away with the 'mediaone.net' domain, and now, e-mails to the GNHLUG list are bouncing to any '@mediaone.net' address. Can you please remove these addresses from both the 'gnhlug' and 'gnhlug-announce' lists. Anyone with one of these addresses is no longer receiving the mail anyway, likely unable to unsubscribe themselves in any case. If they really want to be on this list, they'll have to re-sub with their new address, since it's not necessarilly just a domain change. In many cases their username has changed as well. Thanks! -- Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://www.gnhlug.org/lug_cal/month.php * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug-announce' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
