Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tilly, Lawrence wrote: > I have never worked with a dual-monitor setup, but several people I'm > learning this from use such a config. Especially for compositing multiple > layers (blue screen / green screen) and arranging video clips, they like > having one monitor to serve as a holding area / reference and one for active > work. Could someone recommend a good dual monitor video card with decent > support under Linux? I know this thread is a few days old, but I just got around to reading it. ;) You don't necessarily need a dual-output card to run two monitors, it just helps. I have in the past run as many as three monitors from three video cards in the same system. If you want to explore this route I'd suggest looking at the Xinerama-HOWTO from the LDP. As for dual VGA cards, I have successfully used two different ones in Linux recently. They're both currently available at Computer Geeks and pretty cheap for what you get: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=RV100-DDR http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2834PCB The first one is a "Powered by ATI" Radeon VE w/ 64MB DDR. I have one in my system at work driving two Trinitrons at 1920x1440 and 1600x1200. It's not bad, and recent versions of the XFree 4.2 ATI driver have hammered out the most annoying bugs. The biggest drawback with this card is that even though it's a single physical device, it has to be configured as two separate cards in X. For me this means running Xinerama, losing DRI, and only getting 3D on the "Primary" monitor. It may be possible to run two separate X servers and get 3D on both, but I doubt it. The other card is an NVidia GeForce2 MX w/ 32MB. I have this card at home running 1280x1024 on a pair of 19" Samsungs. As long as you use NVidia's proprietary driver you can run the TwinView feature and utilize both displays as a single device. It's actually possible to run GL apps across both monitors, or start one on one side and drag it to the other. The disadvantage to GeForce2MX based cards is that the secondary display has a pretty low bandwidth (150MHz?). IIRC you can't realistically go above 1280x1024 on the second monitor. Computer Geeks also happens to have at least two other dual monitor cards ATM. They're also Radeons, and one of them has VGA, DVI, and S-Video, two of which can be used at a time. - -- -Matt There's an old proverb that says just about whatever you want it to. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE85TDac8/WFSz+GKMRAgYBAJkB+R632I6C8OIgkrV3yxafEkUpTACeL8gw VqOX71kUzhSeWv8dcgoOhTY= =3rAq -END PGP SIGNATURE- * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
a couple of weeks ago i started using blender, from NaN..
its currently (or at least as of a couple weeks ago) not available from
their website, but i found a tarball on a debian mirror...
ive never used 3d SMAX but, from pictures, blender looks to have similar
functionality.
be sure to check out www.elysiun.com, which appears to be a blender fan
site of sorts, with tutorials and a web forum where people post their
work...
-tom
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tilly, Lawrence wrote:
> G'Day.
>
> I'm starting to get involved with video editing (including blue screen
> compositing) and some 3d modeling at a hobbyist level. I'm currently playing
> with software on my Windoze box (Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After
> Effects, 3D Studio Max) and it looks like I'm getting hooked by this money
> sink, err...hobby. I don't have a penguin-based environment up to this level
> yet and plan on some upgrades, so I figured I'd throw out a few questions
> and try to do this the Right Way from the start...
>
> Hardware:
> I have never worked with a dual-monitor setup, but several people I'm
> learning this from use such a config. Especially for compositing multiple
> layers (blue screen / green screen) and arranging video clips, they like
> having one monitor to serve as a holding area / reference and one for active
> work. Could someone recommend a good dual monitor video card with decent
> support under Linux?
>
> I currently have no method to capture video from my Hi8 camcorder or VCR /
> DVD. There are several USB-based and PCI card-based solutions in the sub
> $100 range but I'd like to see if someone is already using such an item and
> get their input. USB would be nice since I could swap it between boxes.
>
> My strongest Linux box is (don't laugh) a Celeron 350 w/ 512MB. I'm
> naturally looking at my new interest as an excuse to upgrade ("Loving wife,
> my life will just not be fulfilled trying to render 3d models at 350 MHz").
> I have to see how far I can push my ABIT board (I think it can go over 700),
> or I may go with an AMD in the range of 1+ GHz...we'll see how convincing I
> can be. If anyone is doing similar work and has some significant
> recommendations I'd like to hear them.
>
> Software:
> I like the capabilities of the above software packages I've named. However,
> some of these are friends versions that I'm trying out to see if I really
> like it before I shovel out any money (some of these things are EXPENSIVE).
> If I stick with them I'll have to try running them under a wine, etc. Does
> anyone have any experience with a Linux based version of any of these tools?
> Naturally OS is preferred. This is not just because I'm cheap (plus I have a
> partner that encourages my hobbies, but relationally to their expense), it's
> also because I love to be able to say to the people promoting $500 - $1000
> software packages "See, it doesn't have to be like that."
>
> REMEMBER: This is for personal satisfaction only. I do not intend to
> generate any revenue from this, only share with family / friends / fellow
> hobbyists. I know the more money I throw at it the better things would be.
> However, if something is going to run a slower than a professional would
> find acceptable that's ok with me as long as it actually works. My goal is
> to have fun and grow into the hobby over time. I'm willing to take these
> things in steps (Capture, CPU, dual monitor, etc) as needed.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Lawrence
>
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Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:14, Scott C. Mellott wrote: > I've used Broadcast 2000 but it has recently been removed from public > access. Actually, it was removed from the creators website about a year ago. It is, however, still available here: http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ C-Ya, Kenny -- "Tact is just *not* saying true stuff" -- Cordelia Chase Kenneth E. Lussier Sr. Systems Administrator Zuken, USA PGP KeyID CB254DD0 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB254DD0 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
Here's a few things to check out relative to Linux video editing:
http://ronald.bitfreak.net/
http://www.nmt.edu/~kscott/video/
I believe these sites will attempt to show you the way in terms of
supported hardware and available software supported under Linux.
I've used Broadcast 2000 but it has recently been removed from public
access.
One company I've done business with is Linux Media Arts. They use a
modified version of Broadcast 2000 and AJA video boards. Its likely out
of your price range, though. http://www.linuxmediaarts.com/ and
http://www.aja.com
Another noteworthy company is DVS. They manufacture some incredibly
flexible digital video boards (both capture and output) for standard
(NTSC and PAL) and HDTV. My company recently selected DVS's HDStation
OEM to use in a new product that we sell to the broadcast television
market (the system is running Linux!). DVS has a really nice Linux SDK
and driver set for this board. The problem is this board $4K quantity
one. http://www.digitalvideosystems.com/
See ya,
Scott
Tilly, Lawrence wrote:
> G'Day.
>
> I'm starting to get involved with video editing (including blue screen
> compositing) and some 3d modeling at a hobbyist level. I'm currently playing
> with software on my Windoze box (Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After
> Effects, 3D Studio Max) and it looks like I'm getting hooked by this money
> sink, err...hobby. I don't have a penguin-based environment up to this level
> yet and plan on some upgrades, so I figured I'd throw out a few questions
> and try to do this the Right Way from the start...
>
> Hardware:
> I have never worked with a dual-monitor setup, but several people I'm
> learning this from use such a config. Especially for compositing multiple
> layers (blue screen / green screen) and arranging video clips, they like
> having one monitor to serve as a holding area / reference and one for active
> work. Could someone recommend a good dual monitor video card with decent
> support under Linux?
>
> I currently have no method to capture video from my Hi8 camcorder or VCR /
> DVD. There are several USB-based and PCI card-based solutions in the sub
> $100 range but I'd like to see if someone is already using such an item and
> get their input. USB would be nice since I could swap it between boxes.
>
> My strongest Linux box is (don't laugh) a Celeron 350 w/ 512MB. I'm
> naturally looking at my new interest as an excuse to upgrade ("Loving wife,
> my life will just not be fulfilled trying to render 3d models at 350 MHz").
> I have to see how far I can push my ABIT board (I think it can go over 700),
> or I may go with an AMD in the range of 1+ GHz...we'll see how convincing I
> can be. If anyone is doing similar work and has some significant
> recommendations I'd like to hear them.
>
> Software:
> I like the capabilities of the above software packages I've named. However,
> some of these are friends versions that I'm trying out to see if I really
> like it before I shovel out any money (some of these things are EXPENSIVE).
> If I stick with them I'll have to try running them under a wine, etc. Does
> anyone have any experience with a Linux based version of any of these tools?
> Naturally OS is preferred. This is not just because I'm cheap (plus I have a
> partner that encourages my hobbies, but relationally to their expense), it's
> also because I love to be able to say to the people promoting $500 - $1000
> software packages "See, it doesn't have to be like that."
>
> REMEMBER: This is for personal satisfaction only. I do not intend to
> generate any revenue from this, only share with family / friends / fellow
> hobbyists. I know the more money I throw at it the better things would be.
> However, if something is going to run a slower than a professional would
> find acceptable that's ok with me as long as it actually works. My goal is
> to have fun and grow into the hobby over time. I'm willing to take these
> things in steps (Capture, CPU, dual monitor, etc) as needed.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Lawrence
>
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Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
"Tilly, Lawrence" said: >G'Day. > >Hardware: >I have never worked with a dual-monitor setup, but several people I'm >learning this from use such a config. Especially for compositing multiple >layers (blue screen / green screen) and arranging video clips, they like >having one monitor to serve as a holding area / reference and one for active >work. Could someone recommend a good dual monitor video card with decent >support under Linux? I had a dual 21" monitor setup on a Sun. You just installed 2 cards & modified a config file. It was very nice. I had gnome sawfish on one monitor on one and fvwm2 on the other. Both with 6 virtual workspaces. Yes, I used them all. For PCs, Matrox makes a number of supported cards (G450, G550..) Look at Xfree86.org. From what I've heard, the Matroxen do well on 2d stuff, but not on 3d. I'm interested in what you find out. My next desktop will be a dual monitor PC running Linux. > -- --- Tom Buskey * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
RE: Request: Video editing recommendations
Considering the other thread getting attention right now, I was very tempted to reply with: "Paul, would you please provide a more detailed summary of that article" Luckily I will not give in to my more base instincts... :-) -L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:43 AM To: Tilly, Lawrence Cc: Gnhlug (E-mail) Subject: Re: Request: Video editing recommendations In a message dated: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:38:01 EDT "Tilly, Lawrence" said: >G'Day. > >I'm starting to get involved with video editing (including blue screen >compositing) and some 3d modeling at a hobbyist level. I'm currently playing >with software on my Windoze box (Adobe Premier, Adobe I have no knowledge on this subject whatsoever, but Linux Journal ran an entire issue a couple months back devoted to this topic. I think they reviewed several NLE (Non-linear editing) tools as well. You might find a lot of useful info either at the LJ site or in that issue of the magazine. -- Seeya, Paul * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Request: Video editing recommendations
In a message dated: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:38:01 EDT "Tilly, Lawrence" said: >G'Day. > >I'm starting to get involved with video editing (including blue screen >compositing) and some 3d modeling at a hobbyist level. I'm currently playing >with software on my Windoze box (Adobe Premier, Adobe I have no knowledge on this subject whatsoever, but Linux Journal ran an entire issue a couple months back devoted to this topic. I think they reviewed several NLE (Non-linear editing) tools as well. You might find a lot of useful info either at the LJ site or in that issue of the magazine. -- Seeya, Paul * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Request: Video editing recommendations
G'Day.
I'm starting to get involved with video editing (including blue screen
compositing) and some 3d modeling at a hobbyist level. I'm currently playing
with software on my Windoze box (Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After
Effects, 3D Studio Max) and it looks like I'm getting hooked by this money
sink, err...hobby. I don't have a penguin-based environment up to this level
yet and plan on some upgrades, so I figured I'd throw out a few questions
and try to do this the Right Way from the start...
Hardware:
I have never worked with a dual-monitor setup, but several people I'm
learning this from use such a config. Especially for compositing multiple
layers (blue screen / green screen) and arranging video clips, they like
having one monitor to serve as a holding area / reference and one for active
work. Could someone recommend a good dual monitor video card with decent
support under Linux?
I currently have no method to capture video from my Hi8 camcorder or VCR /
DVD. There are several USB-based and PCI card-based solutions in the sub
$100 range but I'd like to see if someone is already using such an item and
get their input. USB would be nice since I could swap it between boxes.
My strongest Linux box is (don't laugh) a Celeron 350 w/ 512MB. I'm
naturally looking at my new interest as an excuse to upgrade ("Loving wife,
my life will just not be fulfilled trying to render 3d models at 350 MHz").
I have to see how far I can push my ABIT board (I think it can go over 700),
or I may go with an AMD in the range of 1+ GHz...we'll see how convincing I
can be. If anyone is doing similar work and has some significant
recommendations I'd like to hear them.
Software:
I like the capabilities of the above software packages I've named. However,
some of these are friends versions that I'm trying out to see if I really
like it before I shovel out any money (some of these things are EXPENSIVE).
If I stick with them I'll have to try running them under a wine, etc. Does
anyone have any experience with a Linux based version of any of these tools?
Naturally OS is preferred. This is not just because I'm cheap (plus I have a
partner that encourages my hobbies, but relationally to their expense), it's
also because I love to be able to say to the people promoting $500 - $1000
software packages "See, it doesn't have to be like that."
REMEMBER: This is for personal satisfaction only. I do not intend to
generate any revenue from this, only share with family / friends / fellow
hobbyists. I know the more money I throw at it the better things would be.
However, if something is going to run a slower than a professional would
find acceptable that's ok with me as long as it actually works. My goal is
to have fun and grow into the hobby over time. I'm willing to take these
things in steps (Capture, CPU, dual monitor, etc) as needed.
Thanks in advance...
Lawrence
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