WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt


I want to set up a dial-up PPP server using linux. I've
done this many times before and have set of config files
for mgetty and ppp that work. I'm having some trouble with
with a new install using a winmodem (I've always used real
hardware based modems in the past).

I've got a PC with a Winmodem installed in it. It uses
a PCTEL chipset and I've been able to find a linux driver
for it. I can talk to the modem just fine with minicom and
mgetty seems to handle it as well. ie. It answers incoming
calls, hangs up and restarts fine, the modem even seems to
be connecting.

The problem occurs when pppd is started (via mgetty's AUTO_PPP
feature). It starts, then complains about an LCP timeout. Attached
is an excerpt from the server's /var/log/messages file.

When I attach a hardware modem to the server's ttyS0 and make the
appropriate adjustments the configuration files (ttyS0 in place
of ttyS15 which is what the winmodem shows up as) it works fine.

I'm wondering if there is some peculiarity with the winmodem
that can be ameliorated with one of the pppd daemon's options.

Anyone?

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Jul  9 09:45:12 linux kernel: assign pctel_interrupt 
Jul  9 09:45:41 linux pppd[13179]: pppd 2.3.11 started by a_ppp, uid 0
Jul  9 09:45:41 linux pppd[13179]: Using interface ppp0
Jul  9 09:45:41 linux pppd[13179]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS15
Jul  9 09:46:11 linux pppd[13179]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
Jul  9 09:46:11 linux pppd[13179]: Connection terminated.
Jul  9 09:46:11 linux pppd[13179]: Exit.



Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Kurth Bemis

At 01:48 PM 7/9/2001, you wrote:

plug

I get the USR 2977 (hardware based pci fax/modem) and the USR 2976 
(hardware based fax modem with voice) for $56.00 and $60.00 (the 2976 is in 
a bit of a shortage at the moment.  I can also get the USR 5686 (external 
modem) for $99.00 in retail box.

/plug

No modem is like a USR

~kurth

Bayard Coolidge USG said:
 
 Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  You can then do something appropriate with the Winmodem,
  such as launching it into the Sun.
 
 Ummm, you might damage the Sun if you did that, but since they're
 a competitor, I certainly won't care. If you merely _install_ it
 in the Sun, then I suspect all you'll do is load the power supply
 a little as I doubt it will work any better there than on your Intel-
 based system.

Depends - it may add enough load to help heat your house :)
 
 Seriously, go down to Best Buy or other computer store, get a REAL
 modem, preferably PCI, and be done with it. I don't remember the
 exact model number now (mine's at home; I'm at work), but USR is
 selling (i.e., actively producing lots of, and marketing them) a
 real modem that states on the box that it will work under Windows NT
 and Linux. That's the one you want. You'll be a lot happier in the
 long run, particularly since the modem will be able to do a lot of
 things on its own without having to bog down your system the way
 the WinModems do.

I bought their external box (love the lights - quickest debugging tool
there is), but the internal card at Best Buy was $79, and stated it worked
with Windows NT, Mac, and Linux (i.e. it's a real modem, not a card that
uses your CPU as a wave synthesizer).

jeff

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Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Jerry Kubeck

I was at Best Buy last weekend to buy a 56K USR modem internal or 
external and all they had in USR's were Winmodems, GRRR and 
they had a special on 15 GIG Maxor hard drives, for $79  but were out 
of them tooo.

We here at ASI highly recommend USR modems (not USR or any other Winmodems)

Jerry


At 01:48 PM 7/9/2001, you wrote:

plug

I get the USR 2977 (hardware based pci fax/modem) and the USR 2976 
(hardware based fax modem with voice) for $56.00 and $60.00 (the 
2976 is in a bit of a shortage at the moment.  I can also get the 
USR 5686 (external modem) for $99.00 in retail box.

/plug

No modem is like a USR

~kurth

Bayard Coolidge USG said:

Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  You can then do something appropriate with the Winmodem,
  such as launching it into the Sun.

Ummm, you might damage the Sun if you did that, but since they're
a competitor, I certainly won't care. If you merely _install_ it
in the Sun, then I suspect all you'll do is load the power supply
a little as I doubt it will work any better there than on your Intel-
based system.

Depends - it may add enough load to help heat your house :)

Seriously, go down to Best Buy or other computer store, get a REAL
modem, preferably PCI, and be done with it. I don't remember the
exact model number now (mine's at home; I'm at work), but USR is
selling (i.e., actively producing lots of, and marketing them) a
real modem that states on the box that it will work under Windows NT
and Linux. That's the one you want. You'll be a lot happier in the
long run, particularly since the modem will be able to do a lot of
things on its own without having to bog down your system the way
the WinModems do.

I bought their external box (love the lights - quickest debugging tool
there is), but the internal card at Best Buy was $79, and stated it worked
with Windows NT, Mac, and Linux (i.e. it's a real modem, not a card that
uses your CPU as a wave synthesizer).

jeff

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Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Jerry Kubeck wrote:
 We here at ASI highly recommend USR modems (not USR or any other
 Winmodems)

  I've got a Zoom external at home and am quite happy with it.  It has *two*
colors of blinkenlights on the front -- high tech!  ;)  I've also used a lot
of generic no name external modems, and they have all worked fine as well.
Generally speaking, external modems have the fewest compatibility concerns.

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Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt

All,

Thanks to everyone for your various input and discussion
regarding my winmodem dilemma. Actually, it wasn't a major
problem as I do have a 'real' hardware modem that works quite
well and can use that if the winmodem doesn't work out.

I did want to experience the winmodem myself and test the
often read assertion that winmodems are garbage and whether
that is really true. Doing things the hard way helps me to
better appreciate the easy way.

It would seem that at this time linux interoperablity issues
for hardware based modems are much more stable and less
troublesome so for now I'll stick with the hardware modem
(a trusty USR) and keep my mind open for software based modems
in the future.

The concept of a software based modem becomes more intersting
if we take it a logical extreme. If all the components were
based entrirely in software, we wouldn't need computer hardware
at all. Now if all that software were open-source, we would have
infinite computing resources for free.

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Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote:
 If all the components were based entrirely in software, we wouldn't need
 computer hardware at all.

  Umm... right.  backs away slowly, looking for an exit

  ;-)

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Re: WinModem Linux Dial-up PPP server

2001-07-09 Thread John Feole

I have a Zoom 56k as well and have used it with no probs with Linux...

JFeole


Kurth Bemis wrote:

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Jerry Kubeck wrote:

We here at ASI highly recommend USR modems (not USR or any other
Winmodems)


  I've got a Zoom external at home and am quite happy with it.  It has *two*
colors of blinkenlights on the front -- high tech!  ;)  I've also used a lot
of generic no name external modems, and they have all worked fine as well.
Generally speaking, external modems have the fewest compatibility concerns.





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