Re: TiVo and VoIP (Was: Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?)

2005-12-13 Thread Travis Roy

I added their cache card to my S1 DTiVo and have no trouble with it...
someone said it requires more 'hacking' than others... I would say it
was all pretty easy.  At the same time.. I replaced the 40G with a 120G
drive.. put in the network/cache card and 512 of ram.. and installed the
web server software.  I also made a few modifications to improve
airflow...  all in all.. a nice little upgrade to keep my 4 year old
tivo running for another few years.


Well, you only have a couple more years left at the most for your 
DirecTiVo. Contract is up in 2007, no more TiVo service for DirecTV 
subscribers.


Luckally I've heard good things about the DirecTV DVR, most of the 
issues are just simple software fixes.

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Re: December MerriLUG meeting [12/15/2005]

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Roche

On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:27 PM, Ben Scott wrote:


Indeed.  I've been to my mind once or twice; it's a scary place.


Yeah, but I've been out of my mind once or twice, and that's pretty  
scary, too.


Ken: RSVP! Looking forward to the meeting.

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PAM module development question

2005-12-13 Thread Christopher Chisholm

Hi All,

I'm having an issue with a PAM-aware authentication module I've written, 
but only in x64 versions of Linux.  I will attempt to explain in detail 
our issue regarding PAM and x64 Linux distros.


Our product in Java needs to authenticate based on OS users.  To
accomplish this, we determined we would use Pluggable Authentication
Modules (PAM) to see if a username/password is valid for the OS.  To do
this we needed two parts:  some code written in C to actually invoke
PAM, set up a conversation structure, that sort of thing.  This C code
gets compiled into a shared object called libsyamlogin.so.  The other
part was a Java login function, which loads libsyamlogin.so and through
JNI is able to gain access to its functions.

Our java code is run using the Java Service Wrapper, which basically
provides an executable script and a config file to run a java program as
a system service.  At first, our login code would not work at all.  We
discovered we needed to add a line to the service wrapper executable
script:

LD_PRELOAD=path tolibpam_misc.so.0

There is one other file of note, and that's the PAM configuration file
to use.  This file goes into /etc/pam.d with other configuration files,
and defines how your application authenticates.  In the C portion of the
code, you call a ' pam_start' function, which accepts as one of its
parameters a configuration file to use.  I was unable to find any good
documentation on how this actually works, but at first I created what I
thought would be a simple working config file, which looked as follows:

start file
#%PAM-1.0
auth required pam_unix_auth.so
end file

This worked on some distros, and didn't work on others, so I switched
over to a standard one that already existed called 'system-auth', which
looks like this:

start file
#%PAM-1.0
# This file is auto-generated.
# User changes will be destroyed the next time authconfig is run.
authrequired  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_env.so
authsufficient/lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
authrequired  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_deny.so

account required  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so

passwordrequired  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 type=
passwordsufficient/lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so nullok
use_authtok md5 shadow
passwordrequired  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_deny.so

session required  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_limits.so
session required  /lib/security/$ISA/pam_unix.so
end file (this file is slightly different on some distros, different
paths and such)

That so far has worked nicely for all x86 Linux distros.  The problem
now is that this is not working at all on any x64 distros that we've
tried (RedHat, SuSE).  I believe the problem has something to do with
the LD_PRELOAD line in the service wrapper script.  Even though I know
the path to libpam_misc.so is correct, Linux says it cannot be found,
which prevents login from occurring.

Essentially I am looking for any ideas or suggestions as to how to
procede.  I've found it very hard to find any good documentation on
developing a very simple PAM aware application that simply performs a
check to see if a username/password is correct.  I also don't quite
understand why the LD_PRELOAD=libpam_misc.so line is needed when
libpam_misc.so is usually in a folder that's already part of the
system's library path.  Any ideas, suggestions, resource links, or
whatever else would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Christopher Chisholm
SyAM Software
Software Engineer

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Re: TiVo and VoIP (Was: Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?)

2005-12-13 Thread John Abreau

Travis Roy wrote:

Right, I don't really see the point of any kind of connection for a S1 
DTiVo.. It's not used for guide data, you still can't order PPV via the 
remote, and there's no HMO for S1 TiVo's of any kind.


Without the network card, I don't know how I'd be able to use the 
tivoweb server on my S1 tivo.


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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 06:31:34PM -0500, mike ledoux wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 04:42:40PM -0500, Jeff Macdonald wrote:
  On 12/12/05, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -- Ben Caveat Emptor Scott
  
  Oh, if you own a TiVo Series 1, do your homework before dumping your
  landline
 
 Roughly $70 solves the problem forever, just plug the TiVo into your
 home network:
 
   http://www.9thtee.com/turbonet.htm
 
 I did this before ditching my landline 3+ years back, figuring it'd
 pay for itself in 2 months.  I'm glad I did.

Unless you spent a lot of time and money upgrading your S1 Tivo, you can
get a S2 with 40 hr for $50.  You can add a USB Wired or Wireless
Ethernet off eBay for not much more.

Tivo2Go is really nice too.  Along with the HME apps like Galleon.

Now if only I could get it to find my SlimServer...

-Mark


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Re: Running Fedora Core under a virtual machine

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:41:18PM -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote:
 I want to test out the FC5 test 1 without trashing my existing
 installation, which leads me to using a virual machine of some sort.
 I'm currently running FC4.
 
 I know of the following:
 
 VMWare 4: Can't find virtual disk

I got somewhere with this.  Turns out VMWare can emulate an IDE or SCSI
disk, but defaults to a SCSI disk.  You can get VMWare images that have
an IDE disk, then just wipe the contents.  Unfortunately, I got to the
same point as qemu (stuck trying to calculate dependencies at install
time).  Alas.

Thanks for all the suggestions though.

-Mark


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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Tyson Sawyer

Mark Komarinski wrote:

Tivo2Go is really nice too.  Along with the HME apps like Galleon.


Anyone get that to work with Linux?  ...its the only OS in our house.

Cheers!
Ty

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Re: PAM module development question

2005-12-13 Thread Thomas Charron
 Configuration documentation can be found at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.htmlapplication developers (using PAM) can be found at 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam_appl.html

 These include example sources to reference, etc.

 For your PARTICULAR issue, reference these URLS, same problems:

http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/pam-list/2001-09/.html
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/pam-list/2001-09/0001.html
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/pam-list/2001-09/0002.html
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/pam-list/2001-09/0004.html

 Thomas
On 12/13/05, Christopher Chisholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,I'm having an issue with a PAM-aware authentication module I've written,but only in x64 versions of Linux.I will attempt to explain in detail
our issue regarding PAM and x64 Linux distros.


Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 12:08:54PM -0500, mike ledoux wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 10:47:15AM -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 06:31:34PM -0500, mike ledoux wrote:
   Roughly $70 solves the problem forever, just plug the TiVo into your
   home network:
   
 http://www.9thtee.com/turbonet.htm
  
  Unless you spent a lot of time and money upgrading your S1 Tivo, you can
  get a S2 with 40 hr for $50.  You can add a USB Wired or Wireless
  Ethernet off eBay for not much more.
 
 The lifetime subscription doesn't transfer to a new TiVo, so that
 $50 S2 is really $349, for something like 150 hours less capacity
 than what I have now.  Some of the new features are nice, sure, but
 not that nice.
 
 Most likely, my replacement for this TiVo will be a nice MythTV box
 with a couple of HD tuners, but I probably won't bother until SD
 broadcasts become unavailable.

Well, like I said, Unless you spent a lot of time and money upgrading
your S1 Tivo  You obviously did that.  Keep the S1 :)

-Mark


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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Tyson Sawyer wrote:
 Mark Komarinski wrote:
 Tivo2Go is really nice too.  Along with the HME apps like Galleon.
 
 Anyone get that to work with Linux?  ...its the only OS in our house.

Yes.  More recent versions are a lot better to get running even on
Debian.  I had to take the wired Ethernet off my Tivo so I can use my
SliMP3 and cut the tivo over to wireless.  There's some sort of problem
with wireless on Tivo where it can't see HME apps, so I can't get any of
it working right now.

That being said, Galleon lets you send recorded programs to the remote
server, then download it later if you want to watch it again, all from
the Tivo.  Saves space on the Tivo drive without having to crack the
hood and upgrade it.

-Mark


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DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS

2005-12-13 Thread Star
Well, in the run up to the apparently much anticipated disucussion this week on DNS/BIND and all things namey related, I pose this question:Does anyone know of or have access to any studies or numbers comparing the performance of BIND 9 vs. Windows 200x DNS servers?
I'm looking for real study type stuff. I've been in those trenches too, and I know what my gut tells me, but I need to present something with real backable bite to them.My company is primarily a windows shop. We tend to see 10s of thousands of hits per hour to the name servers on the average day, round the clock (international product). Due to some snafu's recently regarding the name servers, and only having 2-ish people that are comfortable working with BIND (and sadly, none in the group responsible for it), Some of the Powers are questioning the sense of moving to a Windows DNS on our edged name severs. I'm trying to pitch the idea of keeping the edges as BIND/RH and using them as slaves with Windows masters being setup for the Ease of mgt they're looking for. Googling for such things is becoming a full time job ;)
Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions!~Star


Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Lussier
mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Most likely, my replacement for this TiVo will be a nice MythTV box
 with a couple of HD tuners, but I probably won't bother until SD
 broadcasts become unavailable.

Do you mean HD in that last sentence?  

I'm toying with this idea too.  I've read a lot of postive reviews
lately on MythTV, and would certainly prefer a system I have complete
control over to something which I don't, and something which is so
limited.

Can the HD cards only receive HD broadcasts, or can the deal with NTSC
as well?
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Seeya,
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 03:22:02PM -0500, Paul Lussier wrote:
 mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Most likely, my replacement for this TiVo will be a nice MythTV box
  with a couple of HD tuners, but I probably won't bother until SD
  broadcasts become unavailable.
 
 Do you mean HD in that last sentence?  

Isn't there an intermediate format known as SD which is a digital 
broadcast that has the same resolution as an analog broadcast?
 
 I'm toying with this idea too.  I've read a lot of postive reviews
 lately on MythTV, and would certainly prefer a system I have complete
 control over to something which I don't, and something which is so
 limited.
 
 Can the HD cards only receive HD broadcasts, or can the deal with NTSC
 as well?
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread fj1200

 -- Original message --
From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Most likely, my replacement for this TiVo will be a nice MythTV box
  with a couple of HD tuners, but I probably won't bother until SD
  broadcasts become unavailable.
 
 Do you mean HD in that last sentence?  
 
 I'm toying with this idea too.  I've read a lot of postive reviews
 lately on MythTV, and would certainly prefer a system I have complete
 control over to something which I don't, and something which is so
 limited.
 
 Can the HD cards only receive HD broadcasts, or can the deal with NTSC
 as well?
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
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I recently looked into creating a MythTV box for HD, but unfortunately, there 
are no cable-ready receiver cards, so all you can do is receive and record OTA 
(over the air) HD broadcasts, so if you wanted to record say a Discovery HD 
program, you are SOL.  When WinTV or Hauppage etc come out with an HD card that 
can receive HD  cable programs, then that is when I will be dumping Comcast's 
DVR box and make my own PVR.


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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Travis Roy




I recently looked into creating a MythTV box for HD, 

 but unfortunately, there are no cable-ready receiver cards,
 so all you can do is receive and record OTA (over the air)
 HD broadcasts, so if you wanted to record say a Discovery
 HD program, you are SOL.  When WinTV or Hauppage etc come
 out with an HD card that can receive HD  cable programs,
 then that is when I will be dumping Comcast's DVR box and
 make my own PVR.

MythTV has support for recording from, and controlling cable boxes, via 
Firewire, including HD.


This is of course hit or miss depending on the cable company, firware on 
the box, and if they even know they're allowing it or not.

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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Neil Schelly
 I recently looked into creating a MythTV box for HD, but unfortunately,
there are no cable-ready receiver cards, so all you can do is receive
and record OTA (over the air) HD broadcasts, so if you wanted to record
say a Discovery HD program, you are SOL.  When WinTV or Hauppage etc
come out with an HD card that can receive HD  cable programs, then that
is when I will be dumping Comcast's DVR box and make my own PVR.

Why wouldn't this work?
http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html

Does that only tune OTA broadcasts?
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Travis Roy

Why wouldn't this work?
http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html

Does that only tune OTA broadcasts?


Correct, that is only OTA broadcasts.

The problem is that HD on any cable or sat system is scrambled, so you 
would need to descramble the channel in order to record it. You can't do 
that with the cards out on the market.

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Re: TiVo and VoIP (Was: Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?)

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/13/05, John Abreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without the network card, I don't know how I'd be able to use thetivoweb server on my S1 tivo.Sometimes I wish I could do this with my S2 TiVoTravis Roy wrote: Right, I don't really see the point of any kind of connection for a S1
 DTiVo.. It's not used for guide data, you still can't order PPV via the remote, and there's no HMO for S1 TiVo's of any kind.But I really like HMO on the 2 S2 TiVos I have to transfer programs between 'em (and a PC for archiving). Gallon (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/galleon/) lets me do much of what I'd want to do on the TiVo at the expense of an old PC.-- A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures.
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread fj1200

 -- Original message --
From: Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
  I recently looked into creating a MythTV box for HD, 
snip
   make my own PVR.
 
 MythTV has support for recording from, and controlling cable boxes, via 
 Firewire, including HD.
 
 This is of course hit or miss depending on the cable company, firware on 
 the box, and if they even know they're allowing it or not.
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I hadn't seen that info anywhere   I will have to investigate further.
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Dec 13, 2005, at 16:51, Travis Roy wrote:

The problem is that HD on any cable or sat system is scrambled, so you 
would need to descramble the channel in order to record it. You can't 
do that with the cards out on the market.


I took a look once at doing this for my Dish Network service (the Dish 
DVR is crummy...).  Dish uses a DVB-S with a DVB-CA-compliant 
Nagravision 2 smartcard cypher (all standards - good start).


The Linux V4L project has code to understand DVB-S signals and support 
for PCI DVB-S cards with a slot to offload to a DVB-CA processor like 
Nagravision.  In theory, I just buy all these parts, connect the coax, 
slide in my smartcard, and ... well, see what I get.


All the parts are available (often from Europe where DVB is more 
prevalant) but it was a experiment with a small chance of instant 
success as there was some indication from the lists that the DVB-CA 
code was bitrotted.  If I were in the business of selling MythDVR's 
this would be a no-brainer to invest $500 in parts and a week hacking 
V4L code to open up a new customer base.


The relentless criminal prosecution and legal harassment of hobbyists 
who buy satellite smartcard gear also makes this unattractive.There 
are some people who make a living selling systems which defeat the DRM 
on satellite signals, which is illegal, but at least DirectTV subpoenas 
entire customer lists from vendors and start sending the goons instead 
of adhering to some standard of evidence of illegal activity.  Grand, 
ain't it?


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DTV, SD, ED, HD, NTSC, ATSC, TMA (was: Voip teleophony)

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/13/05, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Isn't there an intermediate format known as SD which is a digital
 broadcast that has the same resolution as an analog broadcast?

  The TV broadcast system the US has been using for decades is NTSC,
which is a fairly ancient, analog standard.  We are in the process of
switching to DTV (digital television), as defined by ATSC.  Currently,
both analog and digital signals are broadcast.  NTSC is supposedly
being phased out, and is scheduled to be terminated Real Soon Now. 
The actual deadline keeps getting pushed back.  Exactly when it will
happen in reality is still unclear, but it appears generally accepted
that it will eventually happen, and within a few years.

  Once the analog NTSC broadcasts cease, you will need a digital tuner
to receive US TV broadcasts.  Newer TVs generally have a digital tuner
built-in.  Alternatively, many cable and satellite services already
require a set-top box, which generally includes all you need.  If
you want to receive OTA (over the air) DTV broadcasts with an older
TV, you will have to buy an external tuner.

  The digital format enables a number of things, including
compression, non-video data, metadata, and new audio and video
formats.  The last is the important one for most people.  With NTSC,
you only have a single option for picture format.  ATSC defines a
whole slew of picture formats, which are grouped into SD, ED, and HD
-- Standard, Enhanced, and High Definition, in order of increasing
quality.

  Digital does not automatically mean HD.  Indeed, as far as the TV 
signal distribution companies are concerned, one of the benefits of
ATSC is that they compress their existing programming at a ratio of
about 6:1, freeing up valuable bandwidth which can then be sold at a
tidy profit.

mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Most likely, my replacement for this TiVo will be a nice MythTV box
 with a couple of HD tuners, but I probably won't bother until SD
 broadcasts become unavailable.

On 12/13/05, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you mean HD in that last sentence?

  I suspect Mike either means (1) when OTA analog broadcasts cease,
thus requiring an external digital tuner for an analog-only TiVo or
(2) when enough programming has transitioned to ED/HD that upgrading
from an SD-only TiVo becomes worth it.

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Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/13/05, Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My company is primarily a windows shop.

  Keep in mind that forcing nix down the throats of doze people rarely
turns out well, and sometimes harms the reputation of nix.  And as far
as performance goes, cost of administration almost always far exceeds
any nominal performance gain.  You may be on the wrong track.

  Of course, Windows != MS-DNS.  BIND is available for doze, as are
third-party DNS servers.  And there are non-BIND servers available for
nix, and there are pretty GUI front-ends for BIND.

  Is the real issue managing BIND, or is the real issue that everybody
there hates nix, and BIND management is just the latest excuse to get
rid of nix?

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Re: TiVo and VoIP (Was: Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?)

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/13/05, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/13/05, John Abreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Without the network card, I don't know how I'd be able to use the
  tivoweb server on my S1 tivo.

 Sometimes I wish I could do this with my S2 TiVo

  I got a question on this.  I've seen claims that Series 2 TiVo's
cannot be hacked to modify/add software.  I've also seen claims that
they can, if you use a PC to gain access to the hard disks first and
insert a suitable back door.  Anyone have any trustworthy information
on the subject?  Most everything I find with Google is either *years*
out-of-date, incoherent, or both.

-- Ben
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Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?

2005-12-13 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On 12/13/05, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tivo2Go is really nice too.  Along with the HME apps like Galleon.

 Now if only I could get it to find my SlimServer...


ditto

I'm working on a side project at home - I call it TiVoCast. The
general idea is to marry Buffalo's LinkServer or the newer Gigabit
models with a Galleon style system but use Perl instead of Java. In
other words, have a stand alone device that can archive show's from
your TiVo or use bittorrent to pull stuff off the net and transcode as
needed.

If anyone wants to help, let me know.

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Jeff Macdonald
Ayer, MA
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Re: TiVo and VoIP (Was: Re: Voip teleophony - Anyone know Packet-8 or others?)

2005-12-13 Thread Travis Roy



  I got a question on this.  I've seen claims that Series 2 TiVo's
cannot be hacked to modify/add software.  I've also seen claims that
they can, if you use a PC to gain access to the hard disks first and
insert a suitable back door.  Anyone have any trustworthy information
on the subject?  Most everything I find with Google is either *years*
out-of-date, incoherent, or both.


I know for a fact you can with a S2 DirecTiVo, but you also have to 
disable the daily call.


I've heard it's harder (or impossible?) with SA TiVos due to the fact 
that the daily call can detect a change. I've heard that there's some 
kind of kernel swapping thing you can do to get around this, but I have 
no first hand experience.


But as far as the S2 DirecTiVo's, again, it's very do-able. It's a great 
option for those wanting to add HMO to their DirecTiVos, something 
DirecTV doesn't offer.

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Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS

2005-12-13 Thread Star
 Is the real issue managing BIND, or is the real issue that
 everybody
 there hates nix, and BIND management is just the latest
 excuse to get
 rid of nix?Currently, it's some of each. There is
definately a fear of using something that's not understood. It's
not so much a matter of trying to force it down their throats as, it's
already in place, it's solid, ~and~ it works. The problem stems
from management in that we have to move this out to our Builds Team
for adding and removing CNAMEs etc, as there are litterally scores of
such changes a day. The guys in the Systems Group (those
responsible for the management of these machines overall) simply can't
keep up with the level of requests coming forward. Management is
of the opinion that We know windows, therefore we'll go that route
and it's hard to argue. There's lots of expertice in house for
dealing with Windows machine and such moving forward.

The discussion today, ran to the idea my group (meaning me and one
other guy) proposed to use Windows boxes in the core (non-public) as
masters for the zones and have the edge (public) servers setup as slave
bind boxes to the core servers. No capital outlay for that one,
just keep the bind boxes as they are and change them to be
slaves. Our build-monkeys get to have a cute MS style interface
to screw up instead (okay, okay, it's not ~quite~ that bad) and don't
have to deal with VI (don't get me going on the webmin
conversation). We don't add domains often enough for it to be a
major concern, and their addition can remain with the Systems
group. It's got it's merits, but MGT is looking for numbers to
see if that kind of paradigm shift (direct quote) is necessary.

Sadly, offloading this to a provider is just not an option as we have
to have 24x7 absolute accountability (a.k.a. someone to skin) when
things break. Not to mention, we'll need, literally, instant
responsiveness to changes and the ability to deal with the number of
requests we do.


Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS

2005-12-13 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
If you've already got BIND servers that work and you're just looking for a way 
to administer it with a pretty interface, rather than editing BIND 
configuration files, check out ProBIND.  I recently set that up at a Windows 
show that already had BIND/Linux servers that most of the staff hated to 
touch and avoided at all cost.  It doesn't get much easier than a pretty web 
gui.
-N
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Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS

2005-12-13 Thread Bill McGonigle

On Dec 13, 2005, at 18:26, Star wrote:


don't get me going on the webmin
conversation


Well, now you've piqued my interest - webmin sounds tailor-made for the 
problem at hand - you could land them in a screen that would only let 
them configure Bind.


There's also this windows GUI version of Bind:
  http://www.metainfo.com/index.cfm/page/metadns_screenshots

for folks who find web pages hard and confusing. (haven't used it 
myself)


Also, think about delegating a subdomain to the windows server.

-Bill

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