CentraLUG report - meeting of July 3rd
A light turnout (three of us!), but a highly productive evening. As promised we cross-reviewed the magazines the attendees use the most. There was no formal poll, but from memory: o Linux Format (expensive, but more than one of us has installed a product for the first evaluation from the CD or DVD included with the magazine). It appears, BTW, that it may be MORE expensive to subscribe than to pick up one copy at a time at Borders. o Linux Journal (especially popular: the Beachead column, by a well-known local! His initials are md...) o Linux Magazine o Info World, for John Udell's columns -- and for a price at the other end of the scale From magazines the discussion ranged into other forms of collaborative communication. I'm now up with an RSS reader!! (We did several test installs, with Ted tutoring us through. Thanks, Ted.) The new and/or temporary venue, the Hopkinton Public Library, is SUPERB. A giant room, high-speed Internet, a pull-down screen, great views. It's a little farther than NHTI (for anyone coming from the south -- or quite a bit farther for anyone coming from the east) so no one is declaring it to be a new permanent place, but it's a great place. -Bill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
OT: email service - gmail
I'm finally fed up with adelphia email service. They have enough space but limit the inbox to 1000 messages even though there is still 90% free space available. Does anyone have an available gmail invitations or would recommend yahoo or hotmail email? thanks, -pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
sending a gmail invite your way. gmail is great, it's my favorite of every one i've tried -chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finally fed up with adelphia email service. They have enough space but limit the inbox to 1000 messages even though there is still 90% free space available. Does anyone have an available gmail invitations or would recommend yahoo or hotmail email? thanks, -pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 07:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finally fed up with adelphia email service. They have enough space but limit the inbox to 1000 messages even though there is still 90% free space available. Does anyone have an available gmail invitations or would recommend yahoo or hotmail email? Somebody else has already sent you an invite, so I won't duplicate that. My own experience is that yahoo is horrible - lots of false positives on spam, communication problems with their SMTP servers, etc. I have no experience with hotmail. That said, considering that gmail keeps archives of all messages, I'd put some thought into how comfortable you are with having somebody else keep a copy of your email. Personally, I only ever use my gmail account for public mailing lists I'm on. Just my $.02. -- Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
Thanks to all the gmail invites... -pete Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 07:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finally fed up with adelphia email service. They have enough space but limit the inbox to 1000 messages even though there is still 90% free space available. Does anyone have an available gmail invitations or would recommend yahoo or hotmail email? Somebody else has already sent you an invite, so I won't duplicate that. My own experience is that yahoo is horrible - lots of false positives on spam, communication problems with their SMTP servers, etc. I have no experience with hotmail. That said, considering that gmail keeps archives of all messages, I'd put some thought into how comfortable you are with having somebody else keep a copy of your email. Personally, I only ever use my gmail account for public mailing lists I'm on. Just my $.02. -- Cole Tuininga [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
That said, considering that gmail keeps archives of all messages, I'd put some thought into how comfortable you are with having somebody else keep a copy of your email. Personally, I only ever use my gmail account for public mailing lists I'm on. And who's to say that any email on any server isn't archived for who knows how long... Unless you have total control of both the incoming and outgoing mail server, and all points in transit (either directly or by the use of encryption) anybody technically could have a copy of any email sent through their system. Going by Google's track record I'd trust them far more than most ISPs I've used. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
but google's motto is don't be evil. they wouldn't read my e-mail, right? haha i do wonder if one day I'll do a google search and see one of my e-mails show up. -chris Cole Tuininga wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 07:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finally fed up with adelphia email service. They have enough space but limit the inbox to 1000 messages even though there is still 90% free space available. Does anyone have an available gmail invitations or would recommend yahoo or hotmail email? Somebody else has already sent you an invite, so I won't duplicate that. My own experience is that yahoo is horrible - lots of false positives on spam, communication problems with their SMTP servers, etc. I have no experience with hotmail. That said, considering that gmail keeps archives of all messages, I'd put some thought into how comfortable you are with having somebody else keep a copy of your email. Personally, I only ever use my gmail account for public mailing lists I'm on. Just my $.02. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
On 7/6/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And who's to say that any email on any server isn't archived for who knows how long... Indeed. It's a fair bet it is. Google isn't the only operator that performs backups of their systems. And besides, the NSA keeps a copy of everything for you, too. ;-) The old rule still applies: Never put anything in email you wouldn't put on a postcard. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - August 3rd
*** Dartmouth-Lake Sunapee Linux Users Group http://www.dlslug.org/ *** The next regular monthly meeting of the DLSLUG will be held: Thursday, August 3rd, 7-9PM at: Dartmouth College, Carson Hall, Room TBA All are welcome, free of charge. Agenda 7:00 Sign-in, networking 7:15 Introductory remarks 7:20 Taking Open Source, Enterprise-Class applications off the desktop and into the Field Presented by Thomas Hall Technical Account Manager, Wind River System There are many compelling reasons to adopt Open Source applications for the desktop; one asks... Why stop there? Well, turns out there are significant technical hurdles to overcome minimal resources - successfully scaling powerful Open Source applications like Apache and MySQL into a handheld device requires Linux development and testing tools well beyond printf. However, while the groundswell of interest in the Linux OS has resulted in highly stable, mature kernels, this interest has not yet translated into commercial-quality Public Domain development tools. While it is comforting to have a ubiquitous technology like GDB available, one wants to further draw on best-in-class tools and paradigms that have been developed in the commercial software development space. Wind River Systems will present on this topic and demonstrate the Eclipse-based Workbench IDE and Platform for Consumer Device, Linux Edition. As time permits, several commercially available products will be demonstrated running Wind River Linux. 8:30 Roundtable Exchange - where the attendees can make announcements or ask a linux question of the group. Please see the website for links to directions. If any area companies are interested in sponsoring refreshments, please let me know. Please RSVP so we can give a theoretical refreshment sponsor a headcount. - MAILING LISTS There are two primary mailman lists set up for DLSLUG, an Announce list and a Discuss list. Please sign up for the Announce list (moderated, low-volume) to stay apprised of the group's activities and the Discuss list (unmoderated) for group discussion. Links to the mailing lists are on the webpage. Please pass this announcement along to anyone else who may be interested. - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-announce mailing list gnhlug-announce@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-announce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
On Jul 6, 2006, at 13:43, Ben Scott wrote: Indeed. It's a fair bet it is. Google isn't the only operator that performs backups of their systems. And besides, the NSA keeps a copy of everything for you, too. ;-) So next time I lose a mail disk I should file a FOIA request with the NSA? :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Stupid ebay/amazon question
On Jun 30, 2006, at 18:52, Ben Scott wrote: Well, since you bring it up, Firefox's Extensions are very similar to ActiveX in this regard. Both will auto-download programs to your computer. One difference worth noting is there aren't websites (statistically, at least) that require a Firefox Extension to be downloaded and installed to view the content of the website. Rue the day that Firefox lets you run a new Extension without restarting the browser... -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: QMail help
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:33:08PM -0400, Tom Faska wrote: If you have not seen it yet go to http://www.qmail.org/ for information on QMail. Another very useful site is http://www.lifewithqmail.org/. I switched from QMail to Postfix several years ago but may still remember enough to help if you get stuck. There's also a qmail newsgroup (alt.comp.mail.qmail) that is reasonably good, and of course a qmail mailing list if you want to expose yourself to it :) We use qmail predominantly here; I may also be able to help if needed. Although I've hacked on it so much (including replacing the qmail-smtpd portion with one written from scratch) I may no longer have the right perspective. mm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: OT: email service - gmail
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 02:42:09PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 13:43, Ben Scott wrote: Indeed. It's a fair bet it is. Google isn't the only operator that performs backups of their systems. And besides, the NSA keeps a copy of everything for you, too. ;-) So next time I lose a mail disk I should file a FOIA request with the NSA? :) -Bill Hmm, We know you're joking, but... -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. Speech Recognition Technology was used to create this e-mail ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [LXP] Linux Pipeline - 07.05.2006 - SCO Smack-Down]]
---BeginMessage--- When the US brought antitrust suit against IBM, IBM had more antitrust lawyers than the justice department had lawyers of any kind. :-| (This is a real, genuine fact!) :-| I have a strict rule. I let IBM's lawyers worry about their domain, and I worry about everything else. ;-) If I could buy futures on this case I'd mortgage the farm. Alas, I don't own a farm. ;-) worrylessLee ;-) Bruce Dawson wrote: LDR wrote: Subject: [LXP] Linux Pipeline - 07.05.2006 - SCO Smack-Down From: Linux Pipeline Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:12:11 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... What's bothersome is the remaining 112 claims from SCO that were not stricken. If just one of them pans out, then SCO can legitimately say "Ah Ha - told you so". Unfortunately, a lot of those claims are subject to legal interpretation, which could easily surprise the community. --Bruce ---End Message---
Gasp. Am I getting old and stupid?
I've looked everywhere. What happened to gasp, the gnu assembler macro processor? Did they stop making it? It used to be in its own rpm and then the latest thing I found on the web is that it used to be part of binutils. Gone. Anyone know where my gasp went? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Gasp. Am I getting old and stupid?
Gasp is considered 'obsolete'. The bintuils-gasp is the only remnant of it, for applications that require it.On 7/6/06, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've looked everywhere. What happened to gasp, the gnu assembler macro processor? Did they stop making it? It used to be in its own rpm and thenthe latest thing I found on the web is that it used to be part ofbinutils. Gone. Anyone know where my gasp went?--Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have.0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net___gnhlug-discuss mailing listgnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Gasp. Am I getting old and stupid?
Gasp is considered 'obsolete'. The bintuils-gasp is the only remnant of it, for applications that require it. Ok, I'll ask the obvoius follow-up question -- obsoleted by what? What do use instead if we want to code Assembler with a F/LOSS tool-chain? -- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Gasp. Am I getting old and stupid?
On Thursday, Jul 6th 2006 at 22:22 -0400, quoth Thomas Charron: = Gasp is considered 'obsolete'. The bintuils-gasp is the only remnant of =it, for applications that require it. It just doesn't make any sense. I know that with the advent of pipelining, writing assembler is less and less sensible. But I have4 a guy here who is writing something, it makes sense for what he's doing and he needs macro capabilities. :-( = =On 7/6/06, Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = = I've looked everywhere. What happened to gasp, the gnu assembler macro = processor? Did they stop making it? It used to be in its own rpm and then = the latest thing I found on the web is that it used to be part of = binutils. Gone. Anyone know where my gasp went? -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
