Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Ted Roche
Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
So, there's a bit of Linux in there.

I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
and whether they provide decent spam filtering.

I've set up other clients with Google and/or Google Apps Premier
($50/year/user) accounts, and their IMAP servers provide nearly 100%
uptime and excellent spam filtering.

Providing email, spam filtering and network support is really beyond the
scope of my services - mostly software development and application
support -- so I'm hoping to find a service reliable enough to just
configure once and leave running, with the occasional rare tweak. I
don't see these folks having any need for an inhouse mail server if
reliable services are available elsewhere.

I'd welcome any recommendations and/or experiences.


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e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
This is going to start-off silly-sounding, but bear with me:

My wife called and told me, a few months back, `Wikipedia is down!'.
It took me a minute to figure out that she actually did mean that
*Wikipedia* was down--not her laptop's WiFi, not our WAP, not our
residential-grade DSL (*again*...), but Wikipedia.

Of course, part of the reason that I was so befuddled by this was that
*I* hadn't noticed. I'd consulted Wikipedia several times while it was
down. Well, I'd consulted the Wikipedia *content*--not the web-site.

When I bought my WikiReader, I had expected it to give me access
to Wikipedia when *I* was offline, but it turned out that it also
served me well when *Wikipedia* went offline. So, now I'm thinking:
what other parts of the Internet can I download and carry around
in my (offline) pocket?

I know what you're thinking, and--for many aspects of the Internet--
you're right: that's just silly. But, for some things, is *does* make sense:
e-mail, for example. Especially if I take the idea back to when *I'm*
the one offline (like when I'm on a trip to Maine, working on one of my
FOSS projects, and I realise that I need to dig something out of an
e-mail thread to get past a block).

Now, obviously I can't *send* or *receive* *new* e-mail unless I'm online,
but I can *read* and *write* e-mail while offline. So, that's what
I wanted to ask you all about (what better place to ask about e-mail
than on an e-mail list? And I guess I'll take the answer *online*,
for the time being...).

The platforms where I care about this are on my laptop (running Debian),
my desktop (idem), my server (idem), and on my FreeRunner (which is similar
enough, inside).


_What I want_:

I'd like to be able to offline have access to my entire e-mail store
from all devices--be able to search through and read messages, write
messages and queue them for sending, move messages between folders,
set/change flags on messages--and then have everything sync-up every
which way when I go online: I want messages that have been queued for
sending to be sent, I want messages that were already in the store(s)
to have changes to their flags propagated, and I want new inbound
messages to be retrieved and cached locally. Basically, I want
everything mirrored everywhere, and I don't want to have to think
about *where* something last changed.

I could just write a suite of code to implement this myself,
but maybe someone can save me the effort by pointing me to a canned
solution :)


_What I've tried_:

Right now, I read my mail with Gnus in a Screen session on my server,
talking to an IMAP server on the same host, which is also my MX and
also services all of my SMTP needs. Mail is in a Maildir tree.
Most of the flags are stored in the Maildir message status-bits
(the trailing part of the message-files' names), but some flags
are stored however the IMAP server does that.

I occasionally run Claws Mail on the FreeRunner to read mail via IMAP,
but all mail-reading/-writing is done through the Gnus/Screen session
in the sky when I'm using either my laptop or desktop; though,
if I can get a general N-way mail-sync solution in place, then I'd
like to change that--and always read and write mail locally).

The reason that Gnus is talking to a local IMAP server instead of just
using the Maildir directly is partly that Gnus' Maildir support is
basically terrible (and I should make an apology for the langauge,
at this point, by paraphrasing Michael Elkins: all mail clients suck,
but some suck less): the Gnus people invented their own method of storing
message-flags *outside* of the Maildir flagspace, and Gnus assumes
that it is the only thing reading the Maildir that cares about flags.
To be fair, Gnus had to maintain its own list of flags when using Maildir,
because it supports more flags than Maildir does (in other words,
the other part of why I'm using a local IMAP server is that
Maildir is also, in some aspects, terrible--though).

Gnus appears to still suck (though less) even going through IMAP,
because it doesn't quite have the right mapping between Gnus-internal
and IMAP flags--Gnus' `expirable' and IMAP's `Deleted' seem analogous
to me, but Gnus effectively doesn't map either flag in one space to
*anything* in the other space, so all of my `expirable' messages just
show up as `Seen' outside of Gnus, and all of my `Deleted' messages
show up as `old' inside Gnus. I have a small hack in place that does
equate `Deleted' and `expirable', but if anyone has another suggestion
for working around this, or has an explanation of how I'm mistaken,
or how VM-mode or something is better than Gnus, then I'd be appreciative.

I've tried Thunderbird, and it doesn't look like a viable option--
partly because I can't stand the lousy built-in text-editor
(though I guess there are extensions that'll kluge-in support
for spawning an external editor), and because it doesn't have
any functionality for cleaning-up the broken formatting in some
of the messages that I 

Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread mark
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ted Roche tedro...@tedroche.com wrote:

 Providing email, spam filtering and network support is really beyond the
 scope of my services - mostly software development and application
 support -- so I'm hoping to find a service reliable enough to just
 configure once and leave running, with the occasional rare tweak. I
 don't see these folks having any need for an inhouse mail server if
 reliable services are available elsewhere.

 I'd welcome any recommendations and/or experiences.



Take a look at the Qmail Rocks implementation of
qmail/IMAP/ClamAV/SpamAssassin combo for doing corporate email severs:

http://www.qmailrocks.org/

I've set this up once in a business environment using the horde
application frame work as the mail interface on the server:

http://www.horde.org/

The setup is very involved, but the end-results are quite slick.

mark
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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:14:59AM -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 _What I want_:
 
 I'd like to be able to offline have access to my entire e-mail store
 from all devices--be able to search through and read messages, write
 messages and queue them for sending, move messages between folders,
 set/change flags on messages--and then have everything sync-up every
 which way when I go online: I want messages that have been queued for
 sending to be sent, I want messages that were already in the store(s)
 to have changes to their flags propagated, and I want new inbound
 messages to be retrieved and cached locally. Basically, I want
 everything mirrored everywhere, and I don't want to have to think
 about *where* something last changed.

This is what OfflineIMAP was written for:

http://wiki.github.com/jgoerzen/offlineimap/

Here's an old Linux Journal article by the author talking about why he
wrote and walking through some initial set up:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7232

Have fun.  :-)

-ben

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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Dana Nowell
In keeping with what appears to be list etiquette I have chosen to
partially ignore your subject line and provide an alternative solution
to your issue. :)

I have not used email through my Comcast business connection (have
Comcast + DSL for redundant connectivity at work).  Instead I chose to
use Postini (owned and run by Google) to filter spam, viruses, and
provide uptime.  They are NOT a free service but they are very cheap and
VERY GOOD.  It is simple to use and simple to setup.

Via the Postini web interface I had to: add email addresses and aliases,
setup my internal/receiving host server address, and specify some
options like level of spam filtering, whether to accept or reject email
to unlisted addresses, etc. After the intiial setup, adding an email
address or deleting one takes about 1 minute via a web interface.  To
learn the interface, understand the options (it's google, it can take a
bit), figure out all the actual addresses and aliases in use as opposed
to just configured, and setup 25+ email addresses with an additional 40
aliases took about a day.  Most of that was spent on items 2 and 3.  My
rambling point being: if you understand email options, it ain't rocket
science to setup.

At my internal site I had to setup postfix, web based email, and change
my MX records to point to Postini.  I also recommend you set the
firewall to only allow external mail access from the Postini servers
(after a delay to let the TTL for the old MX records die).

Net result, EXCELLENT spam filtering and stats (over the last hour 95%
of all my email never came down the pipe, currently all spam, no
viruses), virus scans by multiple anti-virus, virtually 100% uptime
(I've been down for maint before, they buffer several gigs of
deliverable email) and ZERO complaints (OK, I too have a user or two
that complains about EVERY spam message, that doesn't count).  Cost is
$12 per year per actual email address (not aliases, which are free).  I
think they have a more hosted version for about $25/year which MAY (or
may not) be closer to what you want, I haven't used it.  Pricing link
for various service options/levels is:

http://www.google.com/postini/compare.html

They provide an email summary to each user about quarantined emails and
the individual users can release their own quarantined messages if you
like.  They support user level white/black lists (again individual users
can manage them via the web interface).

I no longer have to update email anti-virus or spam lists, or deal with
users white/black lists, or deal with spooling during down time, ...  I
get to keep internal email with internal email security, scripted
backups, retention policies, etc.

The is a very low/no maintenance way to get web based filtering and
spooling but local email (no hacking of web email or social engineering
of web passwords, local backups and retention).

It gets you Google's uptime and spooling etc. that you mentioned, with
some local control.  Obviously the level of local control you may
want/need is likely one of the deciding factors in your case.

I think you can get a demo from them.  If not, let me know and I'll be
happy to show you the web interface if you are in the Nashua area.


On 2010-08-30 10:31, Ted Roche wrote:
 Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
 have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
 So, there's a bit of Linux in there.
 
 I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
 non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
 been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
 and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
 domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
 part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
 with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
 are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
 and whether they provide decent spam filtering.
 
 I've set up other clients with Google and/or Google Apps Premier
 ($50/year/user) accounts, and their IMAP servers provide nearly 100%
 uptime and excellent spam filtering.
 
 Providing email, spam filtering and network support is really beyond the
 scope of my services - mostly software development and application
 support -- so I'm hoping to find a service reliable enough to just
 configure once and leave running, with the occasional rare tweak. I
 don't see these folks having any need for an inhouse mail server if
 reliable services are available elsewhere.
 
 I'd welcome any recommendations and/or experiences.
 
 
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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Ben Eisenbraun b...@klatsch.org writes:

 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:14:59AM -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
  _What I want_:
  
  I'd like to be able to offline have access to my entire e-mail store
  from all devices--be able to search through and read messages, write
  messages and queue them for sending, move messages between folders,
  set/change flags on messages--and then have everything sync-up every
  which way when I go online: I want messages that have been queued for
  sending to be sent, I want messages that were already in the store(s)
  to have changes to their flags propagated, and I want new inbound
  messages to be retrieved and cached locally. Basically, I want
  everything mirrored everywhere, and I don't want to have to think
  about *where* something last changed.
 
 This is what OfflineIMAP was written for:
 
 http://wiki.github.com/jgoerzen/offlineimap/
 
 Here's an old Linux Journal article by the author talking about why he
 wrote and walking through some initial set up:
 
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7232
 
 Have fun.  :-)

Thanks, Ben--any thoughts on the `sync topology' question, since
I've got 4+ machines where I want the mail-store kept in sync?

If I can sync between machines on the same LAN segment when possible,
and synch the laptop or handheld to the server in the sky when I'm
off-lan, and then sync the laptop and the handheld to each other,
and so forth..., then it seems like that'd be a win in terms of
sync-speed (it's much faster to sync my laptop directly to my desktop
the 100T than it is to sync either with the server in the sky,
especially if I have to sync one with the sky-server and then
the other with the one...; and it's *much* faster to sync the FreeRunner
with anything local than over the GPRS link). But I know that
tools that are just designed to sync pairwise can be utterly
confused/broken by complex sync-topologies (so when I sync my files
with Unison, for example, I normally just use a star topology--
and an eager one at that).

Also, is it reasonable to start/stop offlineimap in my ifup/ifdown scripts,
to have it keep a `running sync' while I'm online?

How come systems don't do this by default? ;)

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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Bruce Dawson
 On 08/30/2010 11:14 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 I could just write a suite of code to implement this myself,
 but maybe someone can save me the effort by pointing me to a canned
 solution :)

A many-to-many sync is extremely resource intensive. And the optimizations
for doing it with fewer resources are mathematically difficult. I'd like to
test it if you think you've come up with code to do it! (I've done this
in the
past with sync'ing databases, and gave up on all but the one-to-many
scenario.)

I'm not satisfied there are any (commercial or otherwise) products that
do the generalized many-to-many sync correctly. (Including tracking
deleted and attribute records.)
 It really seems like IMAP is the only thing available that's
 at all like a `portable, ubiquitous mail-handling API'..., so
 maybe what I want is to just use OfflineIMAP in IMAP-to-IMAP mode?
 If so, what sync-*topology* should I be using? Do I have to
 use a star topology, where everything syncs with each other
 through a central node? Or can should the IMAP UUID support
 be sufficient for me to do an N-way distributed sync with
 data flowing every which way?

I would recommend using a master node that all the satellites sync to.
I believe
an N-Way distributed sync will eventually end up in a mess that you
won't be able
to unravel (other than just declaring one the winner and dup'ing that to
all the other
potential master nodes). I say this given the unreliability of network
connections,
software releases, humans, and the world in general (e.g. practical
experience).

--Bruce
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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
Hi Joshua,

 Thanks, Ben

Ha!  My brain totally skipped the last paragraph of your first email
in which you mention OfflineIMAP as a possibility and wonder about the
topology question.  Sorry.  That wasn't very helpful.

 --any thoughts on the `sync topology' question, since
 I've got 4+ machines where I want the mail-store kept in sync?

My set up was much simpler, since I was just syncing between a laptop and
a single IMAP server.  I suspect what you want to do is not a well-trod
path, and that you'll end up having to do some experimentation to figure
out what will work best.

Thinking more it seems like some combination of technology and policy
should get you pretty close to what you want.  Some local IMAP servers +
OfflineIMAP + shell scripts + when I go to the woods, I will only sync the
Freerunner against the IMAP server on the laptop, and I will sync the
laptop IMAP to the hosted IMAP first thing when I return.

Since I'm being unhelpful, I will also suggest that while you can probably
design a set up to meet your requirements, maybe that time would be better
spent on other things.

There's a continuum of email-connectedness that goes like this:

Don No email Knuth   Email, all the time, everywhere
   |---|

And I personally am finding that I'm happier if I live nearer the Knuth end
of things.  But I'm a cantankerous middle-aged man.  YMMV.

 Also, is it reasonable to start/stop offlineimap in my ifup/ifdown
 scripts, to have it keep a `running sync' while I'm online?

Yes, that's basically what I did.  Launchd in my case, since I was running
this on a Macbook.

-ben

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calvin
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Fwd: [boston.rb] Re: MongoDB Conference in Boston on Sept 20

2010-08-30 Thread Ted Roche
Someone had mentioned at ManchLUG that MongoDB was coming up but was a
for pay conference. It appears to be, but a very reasonable price,
if you are interested in Mongo.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Meghan Gill meg...@10gen.com
Date: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Subject: [boston.rb] Re: MongoDB Conference in Boston on Sept 20
To: Boston Ruby Group boston-rubygr...@googlegroups.com


Hi everyone,

Wanted to send a friendly reminder that early bird pricing for Mongo
Boston ends today.

Register for only $20 at http://www.10gen.com/conferences/mongoboston2010

Hope to see some of you there!

Cheers,
Meghan

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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Dan Coutu
 On 8/30/10 10:31 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
 Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
 have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
 So, there's a bit of Linux in there.

 I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
 non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
 been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
 and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
 domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
 part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
 with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
 are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
 and whether they provide decent spam filtering.

 I've set up other clients with Google and/or Google Apps Premier
 ($50/year/user) accounts, and their IMAP servers provide nearly 100%
 uptime and excellent spam filtering.

 Providing email, spam filtering and network support is really beyond the
 scope of my services - mostly software development and application
 support -- so I'm hoping to find a service reliable enough to just
 configure once and leave running, with the occasional rare tweak. I
 don't see these folks having any need for an inhouse mail server if
 reliable services are available elsewhere.

 I'd welcome any recommendations and/or experiences.
I no longer bother with trying to setup email services for the clients
to whom I provide web hosting services. It is just too tedious and time
consuming to try to keep up with all of the latest and greatest steps
necessary to hold off the spammers. So I setup my clients with Google
Apps standard unless they specifically need the Google Apps Premier
level of service. It saves me a lot of headaches and makes the clients
happy too.

Dan
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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Joseph Smith
On 08/30/2010 10:31 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
 Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
 have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
 So, there's a bit of Linux in there.

 I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
 non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
 been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
 and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
 domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
 part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
 with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
 are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
 and whether they provide decent spam filtering.

 I've set up other clients with Google and/or Google Apps Premier
 ($50/year/user) accounts, and their IMAP servers provide nearly 100%
 uptime and excellent spam filtering.

 Providing email, spam filtering and network support is really beyond the
 scope of my services - mostly software development and application
 support -- so I'm hoping to find a service reliable enough to just
 configure once and leave running, with the occasional rare tweak. I
 don't see these folks having any need for an inhouse mail server if
 reliable services are available elsewhere.

 I'd welcome any recommendations and/or experiences.


Have you checked out ClarkConnect (http://www.clarkconnect.com) I used 
it for years before I decided to out source and I loved it.

-- 
Thanks,
Joseph Smith
Set-Top-Linux
www.settoplinux.org
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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Dan Jenkins
  On 8/30/2010 2:08 PM, Bruce Dawson wrote:
   On 08/30/2010 11:14 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 I could just write a suite of code to implement this myself,
 but maybe someone can save me the effort by pointing me to a canned
 solution :)
 A many-to-many sync is extremely resource intensive. And the optimizations
 for doing it with fewer resources are mathematically difficult. I'd like to
 test it if you think you've come up with code to do it! (I've done this
 in the
 past with sync'ing databases, and gave up on all but the one-to-many
 scenario.)

 I'm not satisfied there are any (commercial or otherwise) products that
 do the generalized many-to-many sync correctly. (Including tracking
 deleted and attribute records.)
 It really seems like IMAP is the only thing available that's
 at all like a `portable, ubiquitous mail-handling API'..., so
 maybe what I want is to just use OfflineIMAP in IMAP-to-IMAP mode?
 If so, what sync-*topology* should I be using? Do I have to
 use a star topology, where everything syncs with each other
 through a central node? Or can should the IMAP UUID support
 be sufficient for me to do an N-way distributed sync with
 data flowing every which way?
 I would recommend using a master node that all the satellites sync to.
 I believe
 an N-Way distributed sync will eventually end up in a mess that you
 won't be able
 to unravel (other than just declaring one the winner and dup'ing that to
 all the other
 potential master nodes). I say this given the unreliability of network
 connections,
 software releases, humans, and the world in general (e.g. practical
 experience).
I've used imapsync with a master node method for something like this. 
It worked well. We did not do any expunges while using it though, so I 
don't know how well that would work. As it maintained deleted flags, I 
would think it would be fine. I did not use offlineimap, because it was 
a server-to-server project in my case.

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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Dan Jenkins
  On 8/30/2010 10:31 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
 Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
 have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
 So, there's a bit of Linux in there.

 I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
 non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
 been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
 and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
 domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
 part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
 with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
 are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
 and whether they provide decent spam filtering.
I've had excellent up-time with Comcast Business Internet. Their spam 
filtering in their residential service has been adequate for those 
clients who use it. I have not yet used their business email service, 
however, I do plan to in the next few weeks. As Comcast provides an 
eXchange server for business class there are some benefits to this 
client, as they all use Outlook and want a shared calendar. And I just 
don't have the time to implement an alternative for them. I'll let you 
know the results of using Comcast Business email service after I have 
some experience with it.

I have another client who converted to Comcast Business Internet today. 
I plan to use Comcast's email server as a pre-filter for spam filtration 
and as backup email server to feed their in-house Postfix/CourierImap 
setup. I'll let you know how that works too.

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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Steven C. Peterson




On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Dan Jenkins wrote:

  On 8/30/2010 10:31 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
 Slightly off-topic, although I got my foot stuck in this door since I
 have installed and maintain a LAMP server and apps at this client site.
 So, there's a bit of Linux in there.
 
 I have a client running a small business with my LAMP server as his only
 non-desktop machine, and Comcast Business for internet provider. He's
 been using a patchwork of email services over the years (they use AOL
 and Yahoo! email addresses and a former web design firm provides their
 domain's POP server.) They are entitled to Comcast Business email as
 part of their internet package. I wondered if folks here had experience
 with setting up other clients with Comcast. In particular, my concerns
 are reliability (losing email during business hours means lost business)
 and whether they provide decent spam filtering.
 I've had excellent up-time with Comcast Business Internet. Their spam 
 filtering in their residential service has been adequate for those 
 clients who use it. I have not yet used their business email service, 
 however, I do plan to in the next few weeks. As Comcast provides an 
 eXchange server for business class there are some benefits to this 
 client, as they all use Outlook and want a shared calendar. And I just 
 don't have the time to implement an alternative for them. I'll let you 
 know the results of using Comcast Business email service after I have 
 some experience with it.
 
 I have another client who converted to Comcast Business Internet today. 
 I plan to use Comcast's email server as a pre-filter for spam filtration 
 and as backup email server to feed their in-house Postfix/CourierImap 
 setup. I'll let you know how that works too.
 
 

To the best of my knowledge both the residential and commercial email is run by 
zimbra, with the exchange emulation turned on for the commercial accounts.

this is based on marketing by zimbra, and the look and feel of the setup page 
we have on one of our Comcast commercial lines.
 
-- 

Steven C. Peterson
Mainstream Technology Group
s...@mainstream.net
Office: (603)966-4607 x 2409
Cell/SMS: (347)329-3605
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Re: Recommendations for/against Comcast Business as an email provider

2010-08-30 Thread Dan Jenkins
  On 8/30/2010 10:51 PM, Steven C. Peterson wrote:
 To the best of my knowledge both the residential and commercial email 
 is run by zimbra, with the exchange emulation turned on for the 
 commercial accounts.
 this is based on marketing by zimbra, and the look and feel of the setup page 
 we have on one of our Comcast commercial lines.
Excellent to know that. I've been meaning to learn more about Zimbra for 
awhile.

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Re: e-mail sync options?

2010-08-30 Thread Jeffry Smith
I've been using fetchmail with the -k option (keep on server) for years.

jeff
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