Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:
  http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection
  Use the Watch Instantly box in the lower left to limit to diskless
  content.

 FYI, the above only works if you are not logged in to a Netflix account.
 If you are logged in, it redirects to WiHome page.
 Choosing SciFi category, for example, shows 17 titles when not logged in.
 Logging in to Netflix, shows 167 titles under that genre.

  Ah.  I specifically logged out to get that link, but didn't drill
down to make sure it had the same number of titles.  I confirm similar
behavior here.  Crud.

  Playing around, http://www.netflix.com/AllGenresList will get you
all the titles, but won't filter for diskless content.  Rather dumb of
them -- especially since they expose that info via a publicly
documented web API (that's how InstantWatcher.com works).

-- Ben

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Re: APT/dpkg system within a system (was: Ubuntu... downgrade?)

2011-01-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Randy Edwards redwa...@golgotha.net wrote:
   Be warned that it would appear APT does not pass it's root directory
   setting on to dpkg.

   Please make sure you file a bug against that with Debian's reportbug
 command/package or via the Debian.org web site
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting. That should be addressed, doubly so
 with a release close to going stable.

  I am pretty sure I would be told the Debian equivalent of This
behavior is by design.

-- Ben

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Re: APT/dpkg system within a system

2011-01-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
 Depending on how many packages you pulled in from sid, you may
 actually be able to just downgrade them by specifying, e.g.:

    apt-get install $pkgname/lenny

  Well, it installed a few hundred packages (which I was expecting),
including things like libc and Perl, and now all sorts of stuff is
broken, so I'm not even gonna bother trying.  I'm actually somewhat
surprised the system is still usable at all.

-- Ben

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-27 Thread Derek Atkins
Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com writes:

 On 1/26/2011 11:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
 Benjamin Scottdragonh...@gmail.com  writes:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mark E. Mallettm...@mv.mv.com  wrote:
 And interested in any other comments, of course, which is why I'm not
 replying off-list ..
I canceled cable TV and watch all my TV via Netflix and Hulu now.  I
 save $60+/month and have fewer commercials (none on Netflix).
 Is all your TV actually available on Netflix and Hulu?  A friend of mine
 was showing me HuluPlus on his home TV, but when I look online I can't
 easily see a list of shows avaiable, without signing up for a one-week
 trial account.  I kinda wish they would publish the lists of shows
 available before I subscribe to see if I want to subscribe.

 All I know is that SNL is available.

 TV = http://www.hulu.com/browse/tv
 Movies = http://www.hulu.com/browse/movies
 choose View as List in either case

Okay, so it looks like NBC, ABC, and FOX are available, but CBS and AMC
(for Mad Men) is not.

-derek
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rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Debian Linux (embedded), I'm in runlevel 2, and I'm seeing this when I run
ps aux:

root   496  0.0  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
/etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
/etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start

S40init_xuarts is a script of mine that I just put in /etc/init.d/ and
linked from rc2.d.

Why is it running twice?  I've gone through the first page of possibilities
from a google search, I'm hoping one of you can point out my obvious silly
mistake, since I'm blanking.

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Re: rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Kyle Smith
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote:

 Debian Linux (embedded), I'm in runlevel 2, and I'm seeing this when I run
 ps aux:

 root   496  0.0  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start

 S40init_xuarts is a script of mine that I just put in /etc/init.d/ and
 linked from rc2.d.

 Why is it running twice?  I've gone through the first page of possibilities
 from a google search, I'm hoping one of you can point out my obvious silly
 mistake,

since I'm blanking.


Is 496 the parent of 498, or are they two distinct copies?  If so, it's
probably because it starts with #!/bin/sh.

Typically your S* scripts should exec and background whatever service you're
trying to start, not stay running once the system is loaded.  Otherwise ps
aux would be full of S* scripts.  You might want to look at
start-stop-daemon in Debian.

- Kyle



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Re: rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Two distinct copies; when I run it from the command line, it backgrounds the
services I'm trying to start, and works quite well.  I do know that if one
runs the script twice in parallel (e.g. start a second copy before the first
finishes) that they both hang and never finish.  (There are also two
identical copies of one of the commands in the script in the process table,
hung and waiting).  Everything the script runs is run as a daemon.  (They do
need to be started in order, though hardware init for 8 UARTS
implemented in an FPGA.)

--DTVZ

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Kyle Smith askr...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Drew Van Zandt 
 drew.vanza...@gmail.comwrote:

 Debian Linux (embedded), I'm in runlevel 2, and I'm seeing this when I run
 ps aux:

 root   496  0.0  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start

 S40init_xuarts is a script of mine that I just put in /etc/init.d/ and
 linked from rc2.d.

 Why is it running twice?  I've gone through the first page of
 possibilities from a google search, I'm hoping one of you can point out my
 obvious silly mistake,

 since I'm blanking.


 Is 496 the parent of 498, or are they two distinct copies?  If so, it's
 probably because it starts with #!/bin/sh.

 Typically your S* scripts should exec and background whatever service
 you're trying to start, not stay running once the system is loaded.
  Otherwise ps aux would be full of S* scripts.  You might want to look at
 start-stop-daemon in Debian.

 - Kyle

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Re: rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.com writes:

 Debian Linux (embedded), I'm in runlevel 2, and I'm seeing this when I run ps
 aux:
 
 root       496  0.0  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0    S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh /etc/
 rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 root       498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0    S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh /etc/
 rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 
 S40init_xuarts is a script of mine that I just put in /etc/init.d/ and linked
 from rc2.d.
 
 Why is it running twice?

Can you do this again, but with ps faux instead--to capture the
process-hierarchy?

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Re: rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I've never used the ps f view (yes, I know...how odd); handy.

root   470  1.1  2.4   2992  1516 ttyS0Ss+  00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
/etc/init.d/rc 2
root   496  0.1  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00  \_ /bin/sh
/etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00  \_
/bin/sh /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
root   500  0.1  0.9   1676   576 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00  \_
sed s/ttyname=//

root   502  0.0  0.4   1712   308 ?Ss   00:00   0:00
/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=115200 --mode=7e1 -p 1
root   503  0.0  0.3   1720   244 ?Ss   00:00   0:00
/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=115200 --mode=7e1 -p 1

Note the -d daemonizes xuartctl in the script below:
ts7500:/etc/init.d# more init_xuarts.sh
#!/bin/sh
# Server for all first.
xuartctl -d
# Barcode
ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=115200 --mode=7e1 -p 1 21
|sed s/ttyname=//` /dev/barcode
# Copleys
ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=9600 --mode=8n1 -p 2 21 |sed
s/ttyname=//` /dev/copley
# Watlows
ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=38400 --mode=8n1 -p 5 21 |sed
s/ttyname=//` /dev/watlow


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.comwrote:

 Drew Van Zandt drew.vanza...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Debian Linux (embedded), I'm in runlevel 2, and I'm seeing this when I
 run ps
  aux:
 
  root   496  0.0  1.9   2808  1232 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/
  rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
  root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00 /bin/sh
 /etc/
  rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 
  S40init_xuarts is a script of mine that I just put in /etc/init.d/ and
 linked
  from rc2.d.
 
  Why is it running twice?

 Can you do this again, but with ps faux instead--to capture the
 process-hierarchy?

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Re: rc script running twice ???

2011-01-27 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Drew Van Zandt writes:

 /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 root   498  0.0  0.8   2808   504 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00  \_
 /bin/sh /etc/rc2.d/S40init_xuarts start
 root   500  0.1  0.9   1676   576 ttyS0S+   00:00   0:00  \_
 sed s/ttyname=//

.

 # Barcode
 ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=115200 --mode=7e1 -p 1 21
 |sed s/ttyname=//` /dev/barcode
 # Copleys
 ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=9600 --mode=8n1 -p 2 21 |sed
 s/ttyname=//` /dev/copley
 # Watlows
 ln -s -f `/usr/local/bin/xuartctl -d --speed=38400 --mode=8n1 -p 5 21 |sed
 s/ttyname=//` /dev/watlow


I think that your multiple S40init_xuarts entries in the process table
are a result of the subshells that you are running via `backticks`.

This is the behavior of the shell.

Furthermore, since you are apparently seeing something hang here, I'll
bet that one of your invocations of /usr/local/bin/xuartctl is hanging
somehow.  If it wasn't hanging, then you'd have a very difficult time
seeing this in the process table.

Regards,

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Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap

2011-01-27 Thread Chris Linstid
I pretty heavily use Netflix instant watch and my higher months barely break
200GB, but I think most of that is downloading media from alternative
sources rather than Netflix itself because the ligher months where I'm not
doing much alternative downloading (but my Netflix watching is about the
same), I'm at or below the mid 100GB range.  Granted, I'm watching 90% SD
content using the Wii, but that's still 480p and that's just great for most
TV shows.  Probably averaging around 1-2 hours per day.

 - Chris


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com wrote:
  Just keep in mind Comcast's 250 GB cap, which we ran up against in
  November. Nearly got shut down until we bought another internet-only
  line (and modem) and divided our traffic between the two. Unfortunately,
  even with a 2nd line we still don't have enough bandwidth to do
  everything we want.

   I've never come anywhere near the cap myself.  I've gotten up to 30
 - 40 GB in a busy month, that's it.

  I suspect 500 GB/month is more than Comcast is really geared to sell.

  How much bandwidth does Netflix/Hulu/... consume? Just to get useful
  data, how much is, say, a typical Mythbuster's show and a 90 minute
 movie?

   I haven't seen official figures, but if it's anything like Tivo, a
 little less than 1 GB/hour for standard definition, and anywhere from
 2 to 8 GB/hour for higher definition.  With smart compression, it
 can vary quite a bit by nature of the program -- the more motion, the
 more bandwidth needed.

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Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Charron
  My response to any company which doesn't want to do business with me
 is to give them what they want.

  I don't need TV to survive.

  I don't need internet to survive either.  :-D  But we digress.

  Their lack of ability to stream live baseball games lies with the
problems with broadcast TV exclusivity contracts.

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