Re: mint

2012-01-03 Thread David Rysdam
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:46:17 -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org wrote:
 On 01/02/2012 03:02 PM, David Rysdam wrote:
  I actually upgraded directly from Ubuntu 10.04 to Debian 6 with zero
  problems. That is, I kept my /home (and dotfiles) and just replaced the
  OS and had no issues other than having to install packages I want that
  weren't installed by default.
 I'm very interested in hearing about how you completed that transition, 
 because I, too, intend to go down that road.  (I've already compiled my 
 kernel from kernel.org, and -- somewhat to my surprise -- I'm able to 
 get full system functionality with a completely free kernel.)
 
 Did you just update your /etc/apt/sources.list file and do an apt-get 
 dist-upgrade or the like?

Oh sorry, I used upgrade in a more general sense, not in the sense of
some Debian/Ubuntu function. That might also work.

I moved my /home dir to a separate HD (that was a separate thing to get
more space, but also because I had One Big Partition). And did a
backup, obvs.

Then I just popped a Debian install CD and installed to the original
disk, completely wiping out Ubuntu. I originally intended to dual boot,
but resizing the partition was going to take forever and I didn't really
expect problems, so I Just Did It.
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Re: gnhlug-discuss Digest, Vol 64, Issue 1

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Freeman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:46 PM, David Ohlemacher ohlemac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I to looked at updating from Maverick and refused to stick with Ubuntu.
 Unity really is a steaming bucket.   I played with it in a virtual machine
 for 15 minutes.  It would be fine on a cell phone, but that is it.

Yeah, I've heard that the thrust of Unity is Unity between the desktop and
the tablet (or lesser).


 So looking around I moved to LMDE/xfce.   LMDE is fast and I like xfce. I
 want stable, usable and configurable, hold the eye candy.  But I have had
 several issues that broke it required fixing.    VmWare is not really
 compatible.  After installation I could no long do any apt-get updates.
 Also, USB did not work at all in VMs.  But it was fixable.   Also, every
 20-30 reboots my desktop gets screwed up and I have to delete
 ~/.Cache/session and logout/in.   When this happens, each window gets
 stacked in the upper right corner with no title bars at all and no way to
 switch apps. Only the last app started can be used. Strange.  There are a
 few other smaller issues.  One positive thing that surprised me was that
 setting up my network printer took about 3 seconds.  That was nice.

You have thought of keeping around a tar of a good state of ~.Cache/session
to restore from, rather than deleting sessions.  I would guess that it would
put icons back where you had them at snapshot time (with any new ones
piling up in the corner, if you hadn't refreshed your snapshot afterwards).
This sounds like a session termination at reboot timing problem.  You have
reported it to the maintainers, I trust.


 Even with the issues, I still like LMDE.  It's been on my laptop for 3
 months. I know how to fix it quickly.  I may switch distros, but I think
 I'll be sticking with xfce.

 For xmas, we now have two new zareason systems.  A desktop and a laptop,
 both with mint 12.   Mint 12 wont be around very long.   It's unusually
 painful to change simple things like adding to the panel or making a new
 panel. Unity will need to make some room in the bucket for Gnome3.    The
 root user is called Administrator!    Did windoze infect Linux desktops?
 It seems so.

Or is that a Mac thing?

 Zareason was great by the way.  It was me that asked for Mint 12; there were
 several choices.  I appreciate 24/7 support with someone that speaks
 American English and knows how to spell Linux.  They threw in a 850W 80+
 Gold p/s instead of the cheap 350W I was expecting.

 Anyone love KDE?  I used to in the 2.0 - 3.5 days, but 4.0 was so unusable I
 dumped it immediately.  I liked kdevelop, but it was horriblely broken in
 4.0 (spent the time to really learn vim).  I hear KDE is now much better,
 but I like dot files (rsync-able) and abhor registries.

I read a rumor (can't remember where) that KDE has gotten better again.  If
you liked it you might try a live CD of something to see if your
itches have been
scratched.  (I never liked KDE, nor CDE before it, so I'm not in a position to
test and comment.

 -d

Bill

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