Re: Talk topics

2013-04-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM, kenta ke...@guster.net wrote:
 Personally I'd be interested in SIP as I have little to no exposure to
 it ...

  +1 on the above.

  I can (in theory) give talks on: DNS and BIND; Samba; Sendmail;
IPTables/netfilter/policy routing; Squid HTTP proxy/cache; OpenVPN.  I
need *lots* of advanced notice for planning purposes, so it can't be
hey, can you speak next week.  :)

  On the shell scripting note, I know lots of stuff, not sure if I
could give a talk, maybe.  But another option is Shell Tips and
Tricks where everybody just comes to share those things they know
about the shell that are handy.  Basically a Nifties Night with a
shell focus.

  (Nifties is an idea stolen from Bill McGonigle, basically a bunch
of quick talks by whoever shows up, on whatever topic they think is
nifty.)

-- Ben
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FYI

2013-04-27 Thread Ben Scott
  FYI, running badblocks -w on a 3 terabyte hard disk takes a long time.

-- Ben
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Re: FYI

2013-04-27 Thread Dan Jenkins
On 4/27/2013 1:36 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
   FYI, running badblocks -w on a 3 terabyte hard disk takes a long time.

LOL, who knew?

A few weeks ago, I did that with two 2 TB drives sequentially. (Why
sequentially? ... because I wasn't thinking.)
I headed out of town on a business trip for a week, and arrived back in
time to watch the job finish.
Thankfully it was an in-house project that no one was waiting for.

I remember it taking 48 hours to prep a 40 MB (not GB) MFM hard drive
for Novell Netware oh so many years ago.

We are so spoiled nowadays - generally just pop drives in and go.

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Re: FYI

2013-04-27 Thread Jim McGinness
Tell me about it. I've been running a ddrescue for over a month now trying to 
recover what can be recovered from a failing 1TB disk. It averages under 
200KB/s when it's not getting stuck because the disk is failing. Perhaps I'm 
doing this wrong

 -- jmcg

On Apr 27, 2013, at 13:36, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:

  FYI, running badblocks -w on a 3 terabyte hard disk takes a long time.
 
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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Michael ODonnell


Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...
 
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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Curt Howland
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On Saturday 27 April 2013, Michael ODonnell was heard to say:
 Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
 array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
 routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
 they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...

When I bought a 1TB external drive and decided to encrypt it, I wanted 
to randomize if first, dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb or whatever it 
was, USB3.

6 days later I made the mistake of playing a SpaceRip youtube video in 
full screen, and Flash locked up the box. The randomizing still 
wasn't done, but I gave up on that and encrypted the drive anyway.

Yes, TerraByte drives are, as was said to Cyrano DeBergerac, Rather 
Large.

- -- 
The Magistrate, enrobed in taxes, condemns the thief in stolen rags.

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Re: FYI

2013-04-27 Thread Dan Jenkins
On 4/27/2013 5:17 PM, mad...@li.org wrote:
 I remember it taking 48 hours to prep a 40 MB (not GB) MFM hard
 drive for Novell Netware oh so many years ago.

 We are so spoiled nowadays - generally just pop drives in and
 go.

 Now we start in with YOU HAD A 40 MB drive?   Well *I* used to have
 to store my data on paper tape, and it was snowing and uphill both
 ways!!

I used 80-column punch cards (Digital TOPS-10), 96-column punch cards
(IBM System/3) and paper tape (PDP-8/E with a Teletype Model 33 paper
tape reader and punch), back in the day.

Since it only snowed 2/3 of the year and there was only a slight hill,
one-way to the IBM server, you've got me beat. :-)

--
Dan Jenkins

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Re: FYI (large devices = looooonnngg processing times)

2013-04-27 Thread Bruce Dawson

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I remember back when the Digital TurboLaser systems came out. At the
time they were enormous, and my job was to develop testing tools for
them. Management just about fell off their chairs when I told them it
would take a *week* (running 24x7) just to create a 1 TB file with
random data (as in RND(0)) for testing. And a little under 2 weeks to
create 1 million 1K files with random data for testing.

- --Bruce

On 04/27/2013 08:06 PM, Curt Howland wrote:
 On Saturday 27 April 2013, Michael ODonnell was heard to say:
  Even on just a silly little RAID1 mirror on a multi-Tb
  array I dread seeing the various messages announcing
  routine maintenance and diagnostic operations as
  they take forever and don't come for free, resource-wise...

 When I bought a 1TB external drive and decided to encrypt it, I wanted
 to randomize if first, dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb or whatever it
 was, USB3.

 6 days later I made the mistake of playing a SpaceRip youtube video in
 full screen, and Flash locked up the box. The randomizing still
 wasn't done, but I gave up on that and encrypted the drive anyway.

 Yes, TerraByte drives are, as was said to Cyrano DeBergerac, Rather
 Large.



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Re: FYI

2013-04-27 Thread Bill Ricker
If the disk is failing, perhaps what it needs in SpinRight to recover the
iffy blocks. Not Free, not Open, but good stuff and not expensive.

(And it makes possible the Security Now! podcast.)

But even that on 1-3TB will take forever.

bill
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