Re: 911 calls from unsubscribed devices

2013-09-10 Thread Dana Nowell
Well first you get an old phone and a roll of duct tape ...

On 9/10/2013 1:02 PM, Michael ODonnell wrote:
 
 My understanding is that mobile phone service providers
 are required to transmit/relay all 911 calls regardless of
 whether the originating device is registered/subscribed to the
 provider in question.  If so, what kind of (preferably minimal
 and unobtrusive) HW/SW would a generic laptop (running Linux,
 of course) have to be equipped with to exploit that requirement
 to have a basic 911 Panic Button capability?
 
 I assume that, ideally, a 911 operator would like to
 have a conversation with the caller to better assess the
 nature/urgency of the emergency, but I also assume that's not
 strictly necessary as long as location info is included in the
 transmission, as obtained either via GPS or tower-triangulation.
 
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911 calls from unsubscribed devices

2013-09-10 Thread Michael ODonnell

My understanding is that mobile phone service providers
are required to transmit/relay all 911 calls regardless of
whether the originating device is registered/subscribed to the
provider in question.  If so, what kind of (preferably minimal
and unobtrusive) HW/SW would a generic laptop (running Linux,
of course) have to be equipped with to exploit that requirement
to have a basic 911 Panic Button capability?

I assume that, ideally, a 911 operator would like to
have a conversation with the caller to better assess the
nature/urgency of the emergency, but I also assume that's not
strictly necessary as long as location info is included in the
transmission, as obtained either via GPS or tower-triangulation.

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Re: 911 calls from unsubscribed devices

2013-09-10 Thread Dan Jenkins
On 9/10/2013 3:09 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:02  PM, Michael ODonnell
  michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote:
  I assume that, ideally, a 911 operator would like to have a
  conversation with the caller to better assess the nature/urgency of
  the emergency, but I also assume that's not strictly necessary as
  long as location info is included in the transmission, as obtained
  either via GPS or tower-triangulation.
 
  That may be illegal.
 
  I don't know one way or the other, but there are rules against abuse
  of 911, and deliberately attaching a terminal without voice
  capability might qualify as abuse.
 
  I'm not even sure auto-dialers with recorded messages are legal.
 
  Might be fine, too.  I dunno.  I'd check, if I were you.
 
  -- Ben

My knowledge is a bit dated, but I believe the general principals still 
hold.

Automated calls to 911 are generally legal, however, they are frowned 
upon. (This may vary by jurisdiction.)
You should (must, in some jurisdictions) contact the police before any 
call is placed and let them know about the device.
An automated call that is placed, without an actual police emergency, 
can incur significant fines, as it is treated as a false 911 call.
Repeated false alarms can be grounds for arrest.

A phone call without any voice on the line is considered a high priority 
by the 911 staff, and dispatched urgently.
The idea is that no voice means the person cannot talk, which could be 
either a medical emergency or a hostage situation.
You would not want cause the reasonable ire of the police for such a call.

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Re: 911 calls from unsubscribed devices

2013-09-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Michael ODonnell
michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote:
 I assume that, ideally, a 911 operator would like to
 have a conversation with the caller to better assess the
 nature/urgency of the emergency, but I also assume that's not
 strictly necessary as long as location info is included in the
 transmission, as obtained either via GPS or tower-triangulation.

  That may be illegal.

  I don't know one way or the other, but there are rules against abuse
of 911, and deliberately attaching a terminal without voice capability
might qualify as abuse.

  I'm not even sure auto-dialers with recorded messages are legal.

  Might be fine, too.  I dunno.  I'd check, if I were you.

-- Ben
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