Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Jeff Kinz
Anybody here been getting bugged by comcast to change their DNS 
settings to accept dynamic DNS server assigmment from Comcast?

They seem pretty insistent about it.  Emails of course, but snail mail
and a phone call?  

Anybody know whats going on?


(I stopped using Comcast DNS a while back, waiting for two minuts to get
a DNS request back seemed a bit long.)

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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread fj1200
Yes, they have sent me several emails and snail mail, I haven't done anything 
about it yet though..


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From: Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Anybody here been getting bugged by comcast to change their DNS 
 settings to accept dynamic DNS server assigmment from Comcast?
 
 They seem pretty insistent about it.  Emails of course, but snail mail
 and a phone call?  
 
 Anybody know whats going on?
 
 
 (I stopped using Comcast DNS a while back, waiting for two minuts to get
 a DNS request back seemed a bit long.)
 
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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody here been getting bugged by comcast to change their DNS
 settings to accept dynamic DNS server assigmment from Comcast?

  From what I've been able to gather via Google Groups for Comcast
DNS dynamic, this is a notification that Comcast is taking some of
their older full-service resolvers (DNS servers) offline.  If you've
manually configured your client resolver (network settings) to use
those servers, you will need to manually update your configuration as
well.  The typical customer who uses DHCP to configure their resolver
would never notice.

  Since you state you're not using Comcast's resolvers at all, you
shouldn't notice, either.

  Unless Comcast is planning on blocking UDP port 53.  I've
encountered ISPs who do that.  Never could figure out why.

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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 02:20:28PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
 On 4/3/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anybody here been getting bugged by comcast to change their DNS
  settings to accept dynamic DNS server assigmment from Comcast?
 
   From what I've been able to gather via Google Groups for Comcast
 DNS dynamic, this is a notification that Comcast is taking some of
 their older full-service resolvers (DNS servers) offline.  If you've
 manually configured your client resolver (network settings) to use
 those servers, you will need to manually update your configuration as
 well.  The typical customer who uses DHCP to configure their resolver
 would never notice.
 
   Since you state you're not using Comcast's resolvers at all, you
 shouldn't notice, either.
 
   Unless Comcast is planning on blocking UDP port 53.  I've
 encountered ISPs who do that.  Never could figure out why.
 

Up on dslreports forums some people are claiming that other ISP
complained to Comcast that C. customers where dragging down the other
ISP DNS severs since so many were using them.  They speculated that 
would be a reason to block or redirect some DNS traffic.

 -- Ben
 
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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 14:35 -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote:
 Up on dslreports forums some people are claiming that other ISP
 complained to Comcast that C. customers where dragging down the other
 ISP DNS severs since so many were using them.  They speculated that 
 would be a reason to block or redirect some DNS traffic.

Am I misunderstanding?  Other providers are upset because folks outside
their network are using their DNS servers?  If this is such a problem,
it begs the question, Why don't they just filter out requests that
don't come from their own customers?

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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Tom Buskey
On 4/3/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless Comcast is planning on blocking UDP port 53.I'veencountered ISPs who do that.Never could figure out why.I've worked places where corporate does that. You can't nslookup 
www.blockedbyproxy.com and use the IP in your browser instead of the name. It makes it easier to filter most users.I don't think it's very effective as there are ways around it, but if it stops a big chunk it may be worthwhile to corporate.
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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Up on dslreports forums some people are claiming that other ISP
 complained to Comcast that C. customers where dragging down the other
 ISP DNS severs since so many were using them.

  Ummm

http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/queries.html#allow-query

  My experience with the dslreports forums is that they can be useful
to get one started looking for something, but ultimately distribute
more misinformation than your average Iraqi information minister...

 They speculated that would be a reason to block or
 redirect some DNS traffic.

  The only reason I can think of to block UDP 53 would be some kind of
widespread DDoS attack against the root or GTLD servers, and even
then, that would likely be a temporary measure.  (The root's briefly
blocked ping for a little due to that reason.)

-- Ben

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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've worked places where corporate does that.

  Well, sure.  Corporate environments are an entirely different
animal.  Where I work, we don't allow any direct IP connection to the
outside world.  You have to go through a proxy server that requires
user authentication.  But we're talking home ISPs here.  They're not
protecting corporate assets.  In theory, they should have *some*
reason for blocking something.  :)

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Re: Comcast, dynamic DNS service

2006-04-03 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 03:37:58PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
 On 4/3/06, Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Up on dslreports forums some people are claiming that other ISP
  complained to Comcast that C. customers where dragging down the other
  ISP DNS severs since so many were using them.
 
   Ummm
 
 http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/queries.html#allow-query
 
   My experience with the dslreports forums is that they can be useful
 to get one started looking for something, but ultimately distribute
 more misinformation than your average Iraqi information minister...


That sounds like an accurate assessment. :-)

 
  They speculated that would be a reason to block or
  redirect some DNS traffic.
 
   The only reason I can think of to block UDP 53 would be some kind of
 widespread DDoS attack against the root or GTLD servers, and even
 then, that would likely be a temporary measure.  (The root's briefly
 blocked ping for a little due to that reason.)
 
 -- Ben
 
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