Re: Photo printers?
In a message dated: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:29:42 EST Tom Buskey said: I ended up getting a laser printer. No waiting. 99% of my printing doesn't involve color. I have an HP Laser for bw printing. I'm specifically looking for something to do color/photo-quality printing. The problem I'm trying to solve is this: We take a *lot* of pictures with the digital camera that we want to print out and place in photo-albums or give to relatives. We have been going to Wal*Mart to use that Kodak kiosk thingy. It costs $.47 per sheet. The problem is, it's an NT based system running Macromedia sw and inevitably breaks on every other sheet you print, requiring a reboot, which takes over 10 minutes. We've many times wasted 1-2 hours for pictures to print from this thing. Since it's my wife who does most of the printing, this is a *major* inconvenience for her since she also has my daughter with her. I want to have a decent photo-quality printer at home, not to save money necessarilly, but to save time and my wife's sanity (whose pain thresh-hold and patience level are *far* lower than mine :) If the Epson for $500 is of far superior quality than the HP for $200, I'll spend the extra $300. The interesting thing is that someone reminded me that Epson doesn't technically *make* printers, they re-package a Canon engine. Ironically, Cannon is not considered to play nicely with open source, yet the Epson is rated as working perfectly. At this point though, I am inclined to get the HP, since it seems to be better for a lot less $$. Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Photo printers?
Hey Paul, Third-party ink packages save you from being locked in to any vendor's ink. However there is some risk when changing ink brands that something will gum up. Printhead cleaning carts are supposed to cure this. Actually, many inkjets will plain gum up on you if you don't use them frequently. And high resolutions require extremely smooth and dense paper (like photo paper) or they'll just saturate. I don't trust any claims of borderless printing. Get a demo, or find a reviewer you *trust*: borderless printing has got to smudge or shift the paper, since the borders are how the paper is gripped and pulled through... Epson printers in my experience do not hold up under abuse. Not sure how well HP does, but I'm on my third Epson ink-jet in 6 years. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo printers? Okay, I seem to have narrowed my search for a printer down to 2: hp photosmart 7150 EPSON Stylus Photo 1280 - C393011 Now, the problem I'm having is making a decision. This should probably be a no brainer, but, I'm a *very* skeptical shopper, and paranoid! The HP is cheap, at $149 (list), whereas the Epson is expensive, at $499 (list). They both fit all my qualifications: - supported under Linux (both are reported to work perfectly at LinuxPrinting.org) - decent quality - print at least an 8x10 image (both portait/landscape) - handle color as well as b/w. - print on both normal paper as well as that photo-quality glossy stuff - be a reasonable price ($500?) However, it appears that the HP printer is really the best deal. It's resolution is much higher (4800x1200 vs. Epson's 2880x720). The HP can also handle a Duplexor, which I don't believe the Epson can (not stated either way). The main thing I see going for the Epson is: - I'm not locked into really expensive HP cartridges - It claims: 6-color (CcMmYK) Micro Piezo ink jet technology, borderless printing 4 x 6, 5 x 7, 8 x 10, 11 x 14, 13 x 19, and letter support whereas the HP only claims 4x6 and letter, but nothing about borderless. - It's fast: 4 x 6 Photo:54 secs. 8 x 10 Photo: 1 min. 50 secs. Black text memo: 9 ppm The HP claims only 10ppm, nothing about photo speed. Even if I jump up to the HP 7359, it's only a $199(list), and you get a 17ppm printer with more memory.(hmmm, I wonder if I can get a 7150 and up the memory for less than the $199) Any opionions? Thanks -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Photo printers?
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:51, Scott Prive wrote: Hey Paul, Epson printers in my experience do not hold up under abuse. Not sure how well HP does, but I'm on my third Epson ink-jet in 6 years. Just to put in my $.02, I still have an Epson LX-80 dot matrix from 1982 that has been in (pretty close to constant) use from then to now... -- Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Photo printers?
Dot-matrix is indestructible. I still have a 9-pin from Atari, somewhere... :-) -Original Message- From: Cole Tuininga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Photo printers? On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:51, Scott Prive wrote: Hey Paul, Epson printers in my experience do not hold up under abuse. Not sure how well HP does, but I'm on my third Epson ink-jet in 6 years. Just to put in my $.02, I still have an Epson LX-80 dot matrix from 1982 that has been in (pretty close to constant) use from then to now... -- Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Photo printers?
Okay, I seem to have narrowed my search for a printer down to 2: hp photosmart 7150 EPSON Stylus Photo 1280 - C393011 Now, the problem I'm having is making a decision. This should probably be a no brainer, but, I'm a *very* skeptical shopper, and paranoid! The HP is cheap, at $149 (list), whereas the Epson is expensive, at $499 (list). They both fit all my qualifications: - supported under Linux (both are reported to work perfectly at LinuxPrinting.org) - decent quality - print at least an 8x10 image (both portait/landscape) - handle color as well as b/w. - print on both normal paper as well as that photo-quality glossy stuff - be a reasonable price ($500?) However, it appears that the HP printer is really the best deal. It's resolution is much higher (4800x1200 vs. Epson's 2880x720). The HP can also handle a Duplexor, which I don't believe the Epson can (not stated either way). The main thing I see going for the Epson is: - I'm not locked into really expensive HP cartridges - It claims: 6-color (CcMmYK) Micro Piezo ink jet technology, borderless printing 4 x 6, 5 x 7, 8 x 10, 11 x 14, 13 x 19, and letter support whereas the HP only claims 4x6 and letter, but nothing about borderless. - It's fast: 4 x 6 Photo:54 secs. 8 x 10 Photo: 1 min. 50 secs. Black text memo: 9 ppm The HP claims only 10ppm, nothing about photo speed. Even if I jump up to the HP 7359, it's only a $199(list), and you get a 17ppm printer with more memory.(hmmm, I wonder if I can get a 7150 and up the memory for less than the $199) Any opionions? Thanks -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Photo printers?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo printers? Any opionions? Well, the context is somewhat different, but my family vowed not to purchase any more Epson printers after my father bought a nice scanner/printer combo (I forget the model) and then a year later, when he was ready to upgrade from MacOS 9 to MacOS X, the company flatly stated that they would not be releasing MacOS X-compatible drivers. Fortunately someone reverse engineered it and put one up on Version Tracker, so we can still use it. But I won't buy one. B'sides, HP makes some really great printers. Erik ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Photo printers?
On 11 Dec 2002, at 5:22pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many times have you changed printer cartridges? I use my inkjet at home so infrequently, I have to buy a new ink cartridge every time I use it, because the old one has dried out by then. ;-) IMO, all inkjet printers are, at best, cheaply made. Thus, one should buy the cheapest unit that meets your needs, and be prepared to throw it out when it inevitably breaks down. :) -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Photo printers?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Okay, I seem to have narrowed my search for a printer down to 2: hp photosmart 7150 EPSON Stylus Photo 1280 - C393011 I have an Epson Stylus 740 that I use infrequently. *every* time I turn it on it takes 5 minutes to warm up then 15-30 minutes running through the unclogging process. Then I can print. Getting a new print cartridge doesn't seem to help. If I recall the early HPs, the ink cartridges included a new printhead. If they still do that, I think the HP has an advantage. My epson will always have the same print head. I ended up getting a laser printer. No waiting. 99% of my printing doesn't involve color. -- --- Tom Buskey ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Photo printers?
Hi all, I'm about to start researching photo-quality printers so I can more conveniently print out pictures from my digital camera (going to walmart is getting to be a real pain :) Does anyone out there have any recommendations or preferences on these things? My basic requirements are that it: - be decent quality - print at least an 8x10 image (both portait/landscape) - handle color as well as b/w. - print on both normal paper as well as that photo-quality glossy stuff - be a reasonable price ($500?) Anyone know of such a thing :) Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
