Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-13 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 23:08 -0400, Stephen Ryan wrote:
 What about going the other way around?  Try the GUI CD burner - you
 should be able to right-click on the .iso and select Write to
 Disc  

That was my starting point.  I glossed over that since there was no
useful error output.  The GUI seems to provide a wrapper to the
underlying command-line tools.  I went to the command line simply to get
better error messages.

And that GUI interface worked nicely in Fedora 6.

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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 9/11/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently upgraded my laptop from fedora 6 to fedora 7.  Now I've
 discovered I can no longer burn CDs or DVDs.

  In the past, I've had trouble with those auto-media-detect-and-mount
daemons trying to auto-mount a disc as I'm trying to write to it.  I
suspect you might be having the same problem, because of this in your
wodim output:

Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
busy)... retrying in 1 second.

  Since I hate those auto-thingies anyway, I just killed them off, and
renamed the binary to keep them from starting again.  (Removing the
package often isn't a good idea because the package may also provide a
library other programs link against.)

I remember the GNOME auto-thingy was called MagicDev at one time.  I
don't remember the name of the KDE auto-thingy, and I don't know if
either of those might be using a new auto-thingy by now.  (As of late,
I'm running FVWM, which doesn't start auto-thingies by default anyway,
so I don't have recent experience.)

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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 09:08 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
 On 9/11/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recently upgraded my laptop from fedora 6 to fedora 7.  Now I've
  discovered I can no longer burn CDs or DVDs.
 
   In the past, I've had trouble with those auto-media-detect-and-mount
 daemons trying to auto-mount a disc as I'm trying to write to it.  I
 suspect you might be having the same problem, because of this in your
 wodim output:
 
 Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
 busy)... retrying in 1 second.
 

That exclusivity error only shows up sometimes.  I think the retry
succeeds.  I have not gone to the lengths of renaming the magic files,
but I have unmounted the CD to see if it made a difference - which it
did not.

   Since I hate those auto-thingies anyway, I just killed them off, and
 renamed the binary to keep them from starting again.  (Removing the
 package often isn't a good idea because the package may also provide a
 library other programs link against.)
 
 I remember the GNOME auto-thingy was called MagicDev at one time.  I
 don't remember the name of the KDE auto-thingy, and I don't know if
 either of those might be using a new auto-thingy by now.  (As of late,
 I'm running FVWM, which doesn't start auto-thingies by default anyway,
 so I don't have recent experience.)
 
 -- Ben

Actually that is a good idea there.  I can switch to runlevel 3 and see
if wodim works.  That eliminates all of the GUI magic.

Thanks.

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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 9/12/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
 busy)... retrying in 1 second.
 

 That exclusivity error only shows up sometimes.  I think the retry
 succeeds.

  Right, because the auto-thingies all work by polling the device.  So
if they happen to be polling the device when wodim tries to open it,
you get the warning.  Then they close the present poll, and wodim
retries, and it works.  Then, during the middle of the write, they
poll again, and kablooie.

  At least, that's my theory.

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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Tyson Sawyer
FWIW, I've not had any problems like this w/Gnome/Ubuntu and it has
the automount thingies.  the automount stuff does annoy me from time
to time, but it doesn't cause failures when burning CDs or DVDs.

Cheers!
Ty

On 9/12/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/12/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
  busy)... retrying in 1 second.
  
 
  That exclusivity error only shows up sometimes.  I think the retry
  succeeds.

   Right, because the auto-thingies all work by polling the device.  So
 if they happen to be polling the device when wodim tries to open it,
 you get the warning.  Then they close the present poll, and wodim
 retries, and it works.  Then, during the middle of the write, they
 poll again, and kablooie.

   At least, that's my theory.

 -- Ben
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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 13:03 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
 On 9/12/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
  busy)... retrying in 1 second.
  
 
  That exclusivity error only shows up sometimes.  I think the retry
  succeeds.
 
   Right, because the auto-thingies all work by polling the device.  So
 if they happen to be polling the device when wodim tries to open it,
 you get the warning.  Then they close the present poll, and wodim
 retries, and it works.  Then, during the middle of the write, they
 poll again, and kablooie.
 
   At least, that's my theory.

Well I shutdown to single user mode.  wodim chugs along until it thinks
it has written 26 MB and then decides that things are not working.  The
CD media still appears to be blank.

I have downloaded the cdrtools from berlios.de and will see if that
makes a difference.  I just need to be careful about fouling up my
fedora 7 stuff.

 
 -- Ben
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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Frank DiPrete
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 09:08 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
 On 9/11/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recently upgraded my laptop from fedora 6 to fedora 7.  Now I've
  discovered I can no longer burn CDs or DVDs.
 
   In the past, I've had trouble with those auto-media-detect-and-mount
 daemons trying to auto-mount a disc as I'm trying to write to it.  I
 suspect you might be having the same problem, because of this in your
 wodim output:
 
 Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
 busy)... retrying in 1 second.
 
   Since I hate those auto-thingies anyway, I just killed them off, and
 renamed the binary to keep them from starting again.  (Removing the
 package often isn't a good idea because the package may also provide a
 library other programs link against.)
 
 I remember the GNOME auto-thingy was called MagicDev at one time.  I
 don't remember the name of the KDE auto-thingy, and I don't know if
 either of those might be using a new auto-thingy by now.  (As of late,
 I'm running FVWM, which doesn't start auto-thingies by default anyway,
 so I don't have recent experience.)
 
 -- Ben


gnome has a setting to turn off auto mountng media on insert.

System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media.
The default is checked/on.
After removing the options the behavior stops.

-- Another hater of auto thingies ;)



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Re: fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-12 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:23 -0400, Lloyd Kvam wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 13:03 -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
  On 9/12/07, Lloyd Kvam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource
   busy)... retrying in 1 second.
   
  
   That exclusivity error only shows up sometimes.  I think the retry
   succeeds.
  
Right, because the auto-thingies all work by polling the device.  So
  if they happen to be polling the device when wodim tries to open it,
  you get the warning.  Then they close the present poll, and wodim
  retries, and it works.  Then, during the middle of the write, they
  poll again, and kablooie.
  
At least, that's my theory.
 
 Well I shutdown to single user mode.  wodim chugs along until it thinks
 it has written 26 MB and then decides that things are not working.  The
 CD media still appears to be blank.
 
 I have downloaded the cdrtools from berlios.de and will see if that
 makes a difference.  I just need to be careful about fouling up my
 fedora 7 stuff.

What about going the other way around?  Try the GUI CD burner - you
should be able to right-click on the .iso and select Write to
Disc  
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fedora 7 on laptop no longer burns CDs or DVDs

2007-09-11 Thread Lloyd Kvam
I recently upgraded my laptop from fedora 6 to fedora 7.  Now I've
discovered I can no longer burn CDs or DVDs.  I have an old CD-R burner,
so this is not critical yet, but I will need to get this figured out.
The drive is identified below in the wodim output, but is a fairly
typical IDE combo drive.  As I recall, it was /dev/hdb with fedora 6.
Now with fedora 7 the drives get scsi style names.

Besides the output from wodim (a typical run is pasted below) there are
also syslog messages like:

Sep 11 00:09:35 laptop kernel: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I 
recognize!

which seems like a media problem, but happens for all of the media that
I've tried.  

My assumption is that the laptop cut some corner with the drive setup so
that there are errors which got ignored or went undetected in fedora 6.
Booting the fedora live CD into RAM made no difference so it should not
be some peculiarity of my software configuration.  Booting from Knoppix
ties up the drive so that I can't burn.

I'll be trying to boot from USB with an alternative distro (Knoppix?
PuppyOS?) to prove the hardware works, but thought it would be worth
soliciting advice.

(Google has not helped as entirely too many people have burn problems.)


(I ran this as root just in case that mattered)

wodim dev=/dev/scd0 driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed -dao  -immed 
OpenCD-07.09.iso 
Error trying to open /dev/scd0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... 
retrying in 1 second.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'TOSHIBA '
Identification : 'CD/DVDW SDR6572M'
Revision   : 'TU04'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 128952
Speed set to 706 KB/s
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed   4.0 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write i   0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   26 of  450 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  95%] |318 1000ms|   
4.0x.Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 35 A5 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 72 0B 00 00 00 00 00 0E 09 0C 00 00 00 02 00 00
Sense Key: 0x0 No Additional Sense, Segment 11
Sense Code: 0x00 Qual 0x02 (end-of-partition/medium detected) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 205.840s timeout 200s

write track data: error after 28125184 bytes
wodim: A write error occured.
wodim: Please properly read the error message above.
Writing  time:  296.935s
Average write speed  10.4x.
Min drive buffer fill was 95%
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.002s
wodim: fifo had 507 puts and 444 gets.
wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 221 times full, min fill was 87%.

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