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Re: New Internet server
On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Bill Sconce wrote: As when Bill (inevitably) says, Since this is GNHLUG, and we're about 'Free', our shining server needs to be... Debian? The first shot across the bow! Bill, there's no 'F' in GNHLUG g,dr Just as a counter-proposal, might not one of the vendors be interested in giving the group a FREE copy of their Enterprise Linux (with support and updates gratis) in exchange for a small discrete banner of thanks? Before we all start touting the clear superiority of a bunch of distros that all run the same binaries, might we not want to identify what we want to do with the box, what our parameters of security/ reliability/robustness/updatability/cutting-edge-access are, and then determine the distro (or the choice of building all from source) that best meets our needs? We could choose the Hummer first and then figure out how to get the kids to school in it, but going the other way 'round seems a bit more rational. Would you like butter with your popcorn? :) Please pass the salt, too! I love fireworks. ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Are the bylaws too sparse?
I had a couple of questions/concerns on the bylaws I haven't seen discussed. Forgive my naiveté on the matter - I have studiously avoided political structures whenever possible. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. 1. Number and composition of the Board of Directors: I'd like to ensure that each chapter feels they are represented on the board, as this is _their_ ( and our) organization. I don't want to hear Those guys in Penacook decided... from an outlying chapter. (Arguably, the email list and the IRC channel could argue they deserve representation, too!) I'd also like a couple of At-Large members who are interested in the overall organization. OTOH, I don't want to form a body to compete with the New Hampshire Legislature in size. This would imply that we might need to better define what constitutes a chapter, if each chapter gets to vote in their own member, otherwise, I'll form a Contoocook chapter and nominate myself. Hmm, no second. 2. Rotating terms: in the proposed by-laws, all BoD members are elected for a three-year term. Frankly, I'd be very grateful for any volunteer willing to work for the group that long. I would not be surprised if more than a few volunteers need to beg off due to changing circumstances of employment, family or health, so some turnover would be expected. Rotating expirations would ensure some continuity while bringing new members into the Bod, but would triple the hassle of holding an election each year vice three (and where likely only one volunteer is willing to step forward). Comments? 3. Term limits: while some folks may get too comfortable in their positions, it's far more likely we can be eternally grateful to someone willing to do one of the jobs here. I'd be opposed to term limits, but wanted a discussion in the transparent open. 4. Inclusive qualifications for membership: It's tempting to make some differentiation between non-voting attendees, associate memberships, and contributing/sustaining memberships, but we get into the landed vs. commoner bicameral solutions that have done the US so well until recently. Way too complex imo. I'd prefer money not be a differentiator within the group, so requiring some dues for voting membership is just an exclusionary poll tax by another name. Organizations work best with a dynamic tension and checks and balances. The egalitarian thing to to allow all members who wish to be members. 5. Membership exclusion: The reality is that there may be some limitations we as a group wish to place on membership, or the possibility that a member needs to be excluded for some reason. How should we define membership? 6. Finally, should we leave this to the first BoD to bring to the - org list to discuss and establish as a policy document rather than encoding this in the bylaws? Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: New Internet server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Roche wrote: | Before we all start touting the clear superiority of a bunch of | distros that all run the same binaries, might we not want to | identify what we want to do with the box, what our parameters of | security/ reliability/robustness/updatability/cutting-edge-access | are, and then determine the distro (or the choice of building all | from source) that best meets our needs? We could choose the Hummer | first and then figure out how to get the kids to school in it, | but going the other way 'round seems a bit more rational. I thoroughly agree. Let's decide on what the server needs to do, then decide on the distribution. | Would you like butter with your popcorn? :) | | Please pass the salt, too! I love fireworks. Do you like your popcorn air-popped, or kettle-popped? (Just a side-fireworks-show.) - --Bruce -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDV8uG/TBScWXa5IgRAtFYAJ4h85K5EcwgQ8ndPtWj4mgmkCUNuQCeLMiU va/Ixmw18CWc9wc4831ocgA= =+zzc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: New Internet server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Roche wrote: | On Oct 18, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Ben Scott wrote: | | Okay, so assuming everybody likes the idea, the next question is, | how do we begin setting this up? I'd like this to be as much of a | group effort as possible. Partly because I'm not familiar with some | of the software we need, partly because I'm only one person, but | mostly because it's just the Right Thing to do. Aside from the | transparency aspect (I'm sure we're all aware of where I stand on | *that*), I think it could be a great learning experience for members | of the group, myself included. I'd like to see learning available to | others. | | It sounds like a call for interest on the -announce list. I would heartily recommend a brief message to the -discuss list instead of the -announce list that points them to an appropriate top-level/project page on the twiki. | I have no objection to posting the whole discussion to the main | -discuss list, maybe with a subject flag like [Web] or something. | However, others may object to the increased traffic. I find the | constant splintering of mailing lists more annoying than increased | traffic on a list. How many -discuss, -announce, -org, -jobs lists | do we need? We maybe could use the mailman topics feature, but only after we move the mailman lists to the new server (and the latest version of mailman that really supports topics). | Also, establish a page on the wiki off of which you can branch the | various discussions, plans, configurations. | | As far as calling for volunteers to help out, I'm contemplating just | posting an announcement to -discuss to see who might be interested. | What are people's thoughts on that? | | Post an announcement to... -announce. That repeats on -discuss also | and may bring in a few subscribers only on -announce. I don't think this is something appropriate for the -announce list, but I'm easy to overrule. People interested in helping out would be on the -discuss list anyway. You may want to post a synopsis of the discussion, or put all the mail messages into one (digest style) to sum up the situation for anyone interested in volunteering. - --Bruce -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDV/nQ/TBScWXa5IgRAvcnAJ0XRfzo5ctsUiqAWu8z1G1DS5D2TgCcCtt1 /T9GwhocKCol7r7estv91oc= =Wk+j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
