Re: Revamping gnome-help style

2021-07-19 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

On 2021-07-19 15:48, Shaun McCance wrote:

On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 23:25 +0200, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:

But on Ubuntu there is another related problem: We have the
additional group "Install & remove software", but no related tile
image. Is there an extended collection of tile-*.svg images
somewhere from where I could pick something installation related,
and if there is, can such an additional image be applied somehow?


There's no extra repository of tile images. All of them are just the
symbolic icons from Adwaita, recolored and tweaked for this look.

This will probably all change. I want to try out using the kind of
image-on-top card look you see all over the internet, including on
the GNOME 40 page. That will take some work in creating nice
thunbnail images. It would be good to have a couple stock thumbs that
can be used on random extra card links.


Thanks Shaun, that clarifies the status of the experimental style.

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Re: Revamping gnome-help style

2021-07-19 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 23:25 +0200, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> But on Ubuntu there is another related problem: We have the
> additional 
> group "Install & remove software", but no related tile image. Is
> there 
> an extended collection of tile-*.svg images somewhere from where I
> could 
> pick something installation related, and if there is, can such an 
> additional image be applied somehow?
> 
> 
> 
> And finally a question about prefs.page: That page is prepared for
> the 
> new style, but no images are shown — only dark blue fields to the
> left. 
> Is the style of that page 'under construction'?

Hey, sorry, just realized I never replied to this. On prefs.page, I
decided to just go with the tiles without icons. I think it looks ok.
Not great, but ok.

There's no extra repository of tile images. All of them are just the
symbolic icons from Adwaita, recolored and tweaked for this look.

This will probably all change. I want to try out using the kind of
image-on-top card look you see all over the internet, including on the
GNOME 40 page. That will take some work in creating nice thunbnail
images. It would be good to have a couple stock thumbs that can be used
on random extra card links.

Anyway, all of this is to say, don't spend a lot of your time chasing
this look.

And if anybody out there is good at graphic design and CSS, I'm trying
to revamp the help style when time permits, but I could use extra
brains on the work.

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Re: Revamping gnome-help style

2021-06-30 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

On 2021-06-30 15:36, Shaun McCance wrote:

On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 00:11 +0200, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:

I have just updated gnome-help for Debian/Ubuntu to GNOME 40.1,
but the new tile-*.svg icons don't show up anywhere. That made me
suspect that I had missed something, such as some build or runtime
dependency.





Does it mean that they are hidden intentionally unless you enable
them explicitly somehow?


Hi Gunnar,

No, there's no secret switch or anything to turn on that style. I
just put "experimental" in the style name so that anybody using it
knows they're not using a stable feature.

I don't know why the tiles wouldn't be showing up. Are you
processing the docs with yelp-xsl 40? When you look at the index
page, are the links rendered as boxes with blue bars with the icon
missing? Or are they just regular links?


Thanks for your hints!



On Debian I had upgraded yelp but not yelp-xsl. Upgrading the latter 
from 3.38.3 to 40.2 fixed it.




As regards Ubuntu it was an embarrassing oversight on my side. We have a 
custom index.page, and once I had added the "experimental-gnome-tiles" 
style the icons showed up as expected.




But on Ubuntu there is another related problem: We have the additional 
group "Install & remove software", but no related tile image. Is there 
an extended collection of tile-*.svg images somewhere from where I could 
pick something installation related, and if there is, can such an 
additional image be applied somehow?




And finally a question about prefs.page: That page is prepared for the 
new style, but no images are shown — only dark blue fields to the left. 
Is the style of that page 'under construction'?


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Re: Revamping gnome-help style

2021-06-30 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 00:11 +0200, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> Hi Shaun,
> 
> I have just updated gnome-help for Debian/Ubuntu to GNOME 40.1, but
> the 
> new tile-*.svg icons don't show up anywhere. That made me suspect
> that I 
> had missed something, such as some build or runtime dependency.
> 
> But then I noticed this:
> 
> On 2021-02-10 21:30, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > * Use a new experimental icon tile presentation for the front page
> > of
> > gnome-help (and possibly other prominent guide pages). I've named
> > the
> > style in yelp-xsl "experimental-gnome-tiles" to really drive home
> > that
> > this is experimental and I don't want other docs to use it. I want
> > to
> > be able to iterate on it quickly without worrying about how many
> > docs
> > I'm affecting.
> 
> Does it mean that they are hidden intentionally unless you enable
> them 
> explicitly somehow?
> 

Hi Gunnar,

No, there's no secret switch or anything to turn on that style. I just
put "experimental" in the style name so that anybody using it knows
they're not using a stable feature.

I don't know why the tiles wouldn't be showing up. Are you processing
the docs with yelp-xsl 40? When you look at the index page, are the
links rendered as boxes with blue bars with the icon missing? Or are
they just regular links?

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Re: Revamping gnome-help style

2021-06-28 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson

Hi Shaun,

I have just updated gnome-help for Debian/Ubuntu to GNOME 40.1, but the 
new tile-*.svg icons don't show up anywhere. That made me suspect that I 
had missed something, such as some build or runtime dependency.


But then I noticed this:

On 2021-02-10 21:30, Shaun McCance wrote:

* Use a new experimental icon tile presentation for the front page of
gnome-help (and possibly other prominent guide pages). I've named the
style in yelp-xsl "experimental-gnome-tiles" to really drive home that
this is experimental and I don't want other docs to use it. I want to
be able to iterate on it quickly without worrying about how many docs
I'm affecting.


Does it mean that they are hidden intentionally unless you enable them 
explicitly somehow?


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