Although you can change this behaviour with an extension, I tend to
agree.
If only one option, Power Off should be the one appearing by default.
In fact I see no compelling reason to have only one option. I would
rather have all the power option appearing in the menu than the dialog
asking you to confirm that you really intended to click on the Power
Off button (but I'm getting off topic here).
I have activated the extension, and I see the Suspend, Hibernate, Power
Off buttons ... and that is not in the slightest a cluttered menu. It
remains quite simple in fact.
I understand the benefits of both approach, but I think the extension
and the core functions should be reversed. The default should show the
Suspend and Power Off buttons, and the extension should allow me to show
only the Suspend button (and the Power one by pressing Alt).
-Cyril
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 21:54 +0100, Martin Häsler wrote:
On 05/24/2011 04:50 PM, gnome-shell-list-requ...@gnome.org wrote:
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 08:03:11 -0500
From: Ryan Petersslosh...@sbcglobal.net
To: Allan E. Registos\(x-mail\)allan_regis...@lavabit.com,
gnome-shell-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: The good, the bad, the insane
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On 05/23/2011 06:47 PM, Allan E. Registos(x-mail) wrote:
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 10:13 PM, Ryan Peters wrote:
Pressing the alt-button shows the Power Off button, logging out so
that you can shutdown requires more work and delay especially after
work where a quick shutdown is badly needed. That design decision
again was discussed in length and that is invalid, it works obviously
to the designer's laptops while the rest of the desktop world are
suffering.
When was this made invalid; are there plans to reverse the decision? I
haven't read of this. Or, by invalid, do you mean we would like it
the other way? I'm not saying you're wrong, I only want to clarify, as
I haven't read anything about the decision being reversed. Also, I use a
desktop, and I can't see how holding the Alt key for a second or logging
out is really such a big deal. It's unnecessary, sure, but it isn't
exactly the end of the world as I hear so many people saying. It
reminds me of the decision to not use minimize/maximize buttons by
default; you can still maximize other ways, and it makes the desktop
feel more consistent and minimal by default.
How much harder is it to press the Alt key and click? I don't mean to
sound rude, and I'm sorry if I come across as that, but it really is an
incredibly small regression if you think about it, relative to some
other problems like over-crowded settings dialogs not being visible on
small screens. Even yelp, the GNOME 3 help program, tells users how to
shut down (with the Alt key as well as the preferred method), so the new
behavior is just as discoverable as any other keyboard shortcut.
Of course it's not hard to press the Alt key, it just doesn't make any
sense.
And you really expect a user to open yelp in order to find out, how to
power off his system ?
Why is there a need to only have one option in the user menu ? a menu you
open maybe once or twice a day ?
If you only want one option, default should be Power Off, because you can
suspend your laptop by closing the lid or with a function Key or
Hardware button.
Martin
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