Re: Fwd: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
Yes, as the Gnome (not GNOME since 2012: when they _left_ GNU) 
developers scream in a high falsetto voice "DEPRECIATED! HAHAHAH!".


I did compile GTK1 recently it took all day and would not compile with 
current GCC without a patch. Distros don't ship it because 
DDDPPRECCCIATED


DEEEPRECIIAATED (woman "developer" who is hired by Gnome screams, 
OUTREACHERY!)
(We don't need you OLD free software MALE, or WESTERN, programmers 
anymore! -- Eben Moglen at his newest video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3CNc0xvGcU
Eben Moglen: “The Future of the Free Software Movement” (SFLC Fall 
>2019)


Process is used to control the men, who are seen as cattle, who /were/ 
the hackers, now.


A bunch of scumbags control the distros, and agree with the women: GTK1 
and GTK2 are DEEEPPPRECIATED (high-five, woman will sue the male later 
for it) DPPPREECICIIIAAATEEED: so don't you distros compile it: and 
thus don't you mmmaaa hackers dare use it!


Oh and we have a CoC for GTK3! HAHA! DEPRECIATING YOU! HAHAHHAHAA 
WOMYN POWER! OUTREACHERY!


On 2019-11-14 00:35, carl hansen wrote:


at https://www.gtk.org/download/linux.php  we read:
"Some applications still require GTK 2, an older stable version of GTK.
You can have the run-time and development environments for
GTK 3.x, GTK 2.x and GTK 1.2 installed simultaneously on your 
computer."


the GNU project is about FREEDOM.

You have complete freedom to keep using GTK2 and software that uses it. 
There

is no way it can be "abolished", since you already have it. Likewise
the GNOME developers
have complete freedom to program newer versions if they want to. The
point of FREE software
is that there can be no "monopoly", everyone has the source, and no
one is required to use
any particular version.  User fears about GNOME are exaggerated.




Fwd: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-13 Thread carl hansen
pesky Reply/ReplyAll error...

-- Forwarded message -
From: carl hansen 
Date: Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and
Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the
entire system)
To: 


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:21 PM  wrote:
>
> Why does Gnome get to have power over what was the GIMP toolkit?
> Why do they get to userp and control us? Why do they control the
> software ecosystem? Who made them boss?
>
> > no it got fatter with the GTK3 transition just like xfce. remember GTK3
> > is only useful for people who make software that can take advantage of
> > it features. basic desktops like xfce and mate were fine on GTK2 and
> > only got bloated going to GTK3.
> >
> > Everyone transitioning to GTK3 is a sign of fear that the GNOME devs
> > will abolish GTK2 in the near future. GNOME and Red Hat hold a monopoly
> > over the Linux world.

at https://www.gtk.org/download/linux.php  we read:
"Some applications still require GTK 2, an older stable version of GTK.
You can have the run-time and development environments for
GTK 3.x, GTK 2.x and GTK 1.2 installed simultaneously on your computer."

the GNU project is about FREEDOM.

You have complete freedom to keep using GTK2 and software that uses it. There
is no way it can be "abolished", since you already have it. Likewise
the GNOME developers
have complete freedom to program newer versions if they want to. The
point of FREE software
is that there can be no "monopoly", everyone has the source, and no
one is required to use
any particular version.  User fears about GNOME are exaggerated.



Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-12 Thread nipponmail

Why does Gnome get to have power over what was the GIMP toolkit?
Why do they get to userp and control us? Why do they control the 
software ecosystem? Who made them boss?


no it got fatter with the GTK3 transition just like xfce. remember GTK3 
is only useful for people who make software that can take advantage of 
it features. basic desktops like xfce and mate were fine on GTK2 and 
only got bloated going to GTK3.


Everyone transitioning to GTK3 is a sign of fear that the GNOME devs 
will abolish GTK2 in the near future. GNOME and Red Hat hold a monopoly 
over the Linux world.