Re: [gnupg-users] Re: Future of GnuPG 1.x.x?

2012-08-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Sun,  5 Aug 2012 09:33, d...@prime.gushi.org said:

 The 1.4 model still works better for certain things.  I've never
 successfully managed to make pinentry work in a shell/screen session
 using my mailer, and I've never heard back from the GPG developers

If you use curses, one problem is that you may need to redraw your
screen after a pinentry popped up.  The usual workaround is to schedule
a redraw after decryption or signing.  Given that we don't use 9600
terminals anymore, there should be no visible impact.

 about allowing the main gnupg process to prompt for a pin directly,
 without needing the socket/window of pinentry.

As you should known this is by design.  A wrapper and the
PINENTRY_USER_DATA envvar is always an option to control the passphrase
entry yourself.  The GnuPG 2.1 gpg-agent has a way to tunnel pinentry
requests back to the calling application - as of now gpg does not
support this.

Salam-Shalom,

   Werner

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Re: [gnupg-users] Re: Future of GnuPG 1.x.x?

2012-08-05 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012, Robert J. Hansen wrote:


On 08/04/2012 03:26 PM, Sin Trenton wrote:

Is the plan to retire 1.x sometime in a not too distant future (I'm
not saying that I assume an actual time plan being set)?


I am not a GnuPG developer.  My information is not definitive.  Take it
with a grain of salt.

That said, my understanding is the GnuPG developers wish to end 1.4
support as soon as possible.  This is reasonable, given that 2.0 has
been out for a decade.  When 2.0 first came out I was not a big fan, but
it's become much more stable and useful over the past few years.

However, ending GnuPG 1.4 support 'as soon as possible' is not the same
as 'ending it now.'  They want to minimize impact on end-users as much
as possible.


The 1.4 model still works better for certain things.  I've never 
successfully managed to make pinentry work in a shell/screen session using 
my mailer, and I've never heard back from the GPG developers about 
allowing the main gnupg process to prompt for a pin directly, without 
needing the socket/window of pinentry.


Both myself and Doug Barton have commented on this list to this effect.

I consider this a blocking factor for moving to 2.0.


When 1.4 support ends, expect an EOL date to be announced far in advance
and a lot of help given to people who need to migrate to 2.0.


See above.

-Dan

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