Book on future of STM publishers

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Meier
I would like to inform you about a new book [in German] published in
mid-june about the  future of the publishing trade facing mounting
opposition by libraries and other pressure groups. The title of
the book is  Returning Science to the Scientists. Der Umbruch im
STM-Fachinformationsmarkt durch Electronic Publishing (in German).

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B542641
http://www.ep.uni-muenchen.de/themen.htm

Michael Meier


Re: Ingenta to offer OAI eprint service

2002-07-16 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
Dear Stevan:

I hear that Eprints has entered into an agreement with Ingenta and that
future versions of Eprints software may not be free. Is it true? Is this
an admission that the Open access movement is losing momentum and even the
greatest of its champions is entering into an agreement with a commercial
firm to ensure the survival of the movement? Please enlighten me.

A few weeks ago I saw a news item which stated that several leaders
of the Open access movement were inducted into the Advisory Board of
Ingenta. The list included Odlyzko!

Regards.

Arun


Re: Ingenta to offer OAI eprint service

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas Krichel
  I think that much of this debate comes from a confusion about
  the meaning of the term free. When we talk about Eprints software
  being free, the term free should take the meaning as implied
  by the GNU public license. In this particular meaning, one
  should think of it as freedom, rather then zero euro. More
  precisely, Richard Stallman, who is the main father figure
  of the free software movement, will tell you that free
  software is any software that has four freedoms attached.

  freedom 0: You have the freedom to run the program, for any purpose.

  freedom 1: You have the freedom to modify the program to suit your needs.

  freedom 2: You have the freedom to redistribute copies, either gratis
 or for a fee.

  freedom 3: You have the freedom to distribute modified versions of the
 program, so that the community can benefit from your
 improvements.

  Since Eprints is under the GNU public license, it is has a license
  attached to it that aims to protect these freedoms. Under the
  license, the producers of Eprints are free to charge per download,
  but they could not prevent another organization allowing zero-charge
  downloads.

  Free software is sometimes opposed to commercial software. That
  is a false opposition. Commercial software is written for a
  profit. Free software can also be written for a profit. For
  example mySQL a leading free relational database software. It
  is produced by a commercial company. I assume they make their money
  consulting others on how to costumize and use it, rather
  than on the software itself. I have no affiliation with the
  company so I am not entirely sure.

  I presume that Ingenta have similar things in mind. Plus,
  they will be running services to run archives on behalf of
  other organizations. The clients would choose to
  let Ingenta run Eprints for them, rather than doing it
  themselves.

  I have been a champion of free access since 1993, when I put
  the world's first free economics paper online, and I am the
  the founder of RePEc, a very large FOS initative for economics.
  I have had my fair share of arguments with Stevan in the past,
  but on this occasion :-), he is spot on right, there is nothing
  to worry about.



  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel   mailto:kric...@openlib.org
  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
  RePEc:per:1965-06-05:thomas_krichel


Re: What About the Author Self-Archiving of Books?

2002-07-16 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Thomas Krichel wrote:

  Not so simple.

   What do you mean? He does not give away, I do not read. Two
   simple choices by two individuals. It has no bearing on the
   general issues.

Then why post it to this Forum, which is concerned with the general
issues?

The reason I stress this point is that I don't think it does the cause of
open access any good at all to conflate it with the consumer's understandable
preference not to pay for goods, even when their creator would prefer to
be paid for them. Or the consumer's age-old prerogative not to purchase
what he does not wish to pay for.

That preference and that prerogative are as old as the hills, and have
nothing to do with the radically new open-access possibilities opened
up by the online medium, which pertain only to give-away goods: This
includes all peer-reviewed articles (2 million a year, appearing in
20,000 journals), but it most definitely does not include all books.

Presumably every creator who offers a product for sale knows that
putting a price-tag on it will reduce usage: Most products are not
concerned with maximizing usage but with maximizing sales revenue.

The conflation of the objective of free access to give-away digital
content with the notion that all digital content should be free is as
unhelpful to the cause of open access as are the following:

the conflation of creator give-away with consumer ripoffs (napster):
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0673.html
http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/#24.Napster

the conflation of gate-keeping (peer review)
with toll-gating (subscription/license tolls)
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/1118.html

the conflation of impact income (salaries,
grants, prizes) with imprint income (toll-revenue)
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/resolution.htm#1.2

the conflation of concerns about fair use
with concerns about maximizing research impact
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2006.html

The most fundamental conflation of all, underlying all of this,
is the conflation of the give-away and non-give-away literature
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2006.html
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/resolution.htm#1

Stevan Harnad


Re: What About the Author Self-Archiving of Books?

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas Krichel
  Stevan Harnad writes

 On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Thomas Krichel wrote:

   Not so simple.
 
What do you mean? He does not give away, I do not read. Two
simple choices by two individuals. It has no bearing on the
general issues.

 Then why post it to this Forum, which is concerned with the general
 issues?

  Other lines in my message and the previous one pertained to
  general issues.

 That preference and that prerogative are as old as the hills, and have
 nothing to do with the radically new open-access possibilities opened
 up by the online medium, which pertain only to give-away goods: This
 includes all peer-reviewed articles (2 million a year, appearing in
 20,000 journals), but it most definitely does not include all books.

  You are speaking as if there is an immutable split between
  give-away and non-giveway. That is not the case. Authors
  will have to choose between the two. It is important that
  authors be made aware on how much more their work will
  used if it is freely available. This is one aspect where the
  FOS has not done as well as it could.

 The conflation of the objective of free access to give-away digital
 content with the notion that all digital content should be free

  That is not what I have been advocating.


  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichel   mailto:kric...@openlib.org
  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
  RePEc:per:1965-06-05:thomas_krichel