Re: How to Compare IRs and CRs

2008-02-17 Thread Thomas Krichel
  Arthur Sale writes

 In response to Tom's request for one university that will guarantee that
 they collect all their research output, here are two:

 Queensland Institute of Technology, Australia,  since 2004. University
 mandate since 2004. http://eprints.qut.edu.au/ Now in its 5th year!

  The site can not be reached on Februrary 17 at 09:41:21 NOVT 2008.
  http://qut.edu.au can be, but I don't find such a statement there.

 University of Queensland, Australia, since beginning of 2008.

  That is for just 1 and a half months?

 Now achieving annual government research reporting through their
 IR. This implies 100% coverage of
 course. http://espace.library.uq.edu.au/

  I did not ask you to tell me about them, I asked if there would
  be an official from an institutions warrant us that they have
  achieved it. I happen to know a bit about the Queensland Institute
  of Technology, situation, I hold a QUT staff card and know the
  repository manager there. But I don't think that it is worth
  discussing the situation in one particular institution here.

  I am not saying that IRs are not a potentially good development
  and I am not saying that they will never work. But I hope that
  we can agree that, from today's perspective, filling IRs
  until we achieve 100% open access will be a very very long
  process.

  With cheers from Novosibirsk (sunny, -13C),


  Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel
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  phone: +7 383 330 6813   skype: thomaskrichel


Re: Books in Open access : OAPEN has been approved by EU

2008-02-17 Thread Jean-Claude Gu�don
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It is hard to know if it differs from the GAP project when the URL
Thomas gave us leads only to one page with an e-mail. Can you
clarify, Thomas?

As for funding, research is funded by governments and publishing
should be made a part of research funding. Waving the fearful banner
of unreliable government funding is totally gratuitous here as

 1. Many government programs have been run for decades if not
centuries. Scientific research is one of them;
 2. Private companies are jknown to go belly up with some regularity
and then all hell breaks loose.

The reality is that all human endeavours are fragile, not only
governmental ones. As to the fickle nature of government policies, it
is rarely exceeded, except by the fickle nature of corporate
decisions driven, as they are, by stockholders' greed and the profit
motive.

Best,

Jean-Claude Guédon


Le dimanche 17 février 2008 à 16:21 +0600, Thomas Krichel a écrit :

 Jean Kempf writes

 The project is the first of its kind

  How does it differ from the (failed?) GAP project
  http://www.gap-portal.de/

 and, if funded, is intended to start in September 2008.

  Could not such a project be running without funding?
  Looking at GAP, it was ok when the DFG funded it,
  when that money ran out, it went South.

  Cheers,

  Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel
RePEc:per:1965-06-05:thomas_krichel
  phone: +7 383 330 6813   skype: thomaskrichel

Jean-Claude Guédon
Université de Montréal