[Goanet]New twist in Goa numbers game
New twist in Goa numbers game http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/31goa.htm January 31, 2005 10:59 IST The political numbers game in Goa on Monday morning took an interesting turn when the lone United Goa Democratic Party MLA and Tourism Minister Mathany Saldhana declared his unconditional support to the crisis-stricken Bharatiya Janata Party government. Saldhana, who was in Spain when the opposition Congress began pulling strings to bring the government down on Saturday last, arrived in Panaji this morning. He later appeared at a press conference with Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and declared his support to the government. I am not a weather-cock to keep changing sides. Politics is not a power game for me, he said. The Congress staked claim to form government in Goa after four BJP MLAs - Micky Pacheco, Pandurang Madkaikar, Babush Babush Monserette, and Isidore Fernandez -- quit the party, bringing down the BJP's strength to 17. Public Works Minister Sudin Dhawalikar of the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party and Water Resources Minister Philip Neri Rodrigues, an Independent, also withdrew their support to the government. While the UGDP also sent a letter to Governor S C Jameer withdrawing support to the Manohar Parrikar government, Saldhana on Monday claimed he was not consulted. Saldhana is UGDP's lone representative in the state assembly. - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Jan 31, 2005!
Soglleoch sagvadi funkott nhoi, thoddeank lipoilolo toktto lailolo asta! (Not all gifts are free, some have hidden tag.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]RE: RE: Questions about Goan gold
(Re: the choice of words, you and I know it well that (E)Inglish is a very funny language (specially for the Indians). Almeidaji(G)ji! In this context, I should like to remind you of an altercation between V.K. Krishna Menon and the then British Ambasaador to the UN who had found fault with some expression of VKK. Krishna Menon shot back: Mr Ambassador, I'll not have you give me lessons in the English language. I learned it, and didn't pick it up as you did! That effectively sealed the mouth of the condescending Brit. Btw, what do you think of the current developments in Goa, Almeidaji(G)ji? Of course, your chum JC will justify your support to the saffron brigade by saying that you had spread only 0.004 per cent of venom. That's like piddling into a 3,000-gallon water tank just once and claiming that the water is 99.996 per cent pure! Cheers, RKN _ 3 million brides and grooms. http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Find your life-partner at BharatMatrimony.com
Re: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non-twice-born Hindus
Got it. Thanks. venantius __ GL responds: I don't know how this discussion is related to the above title. It does not even apply to what is the custom in Goa? (Which I do not know!) However the courts in the case below are not addressing 'the child's future'. The courts are addressing: Can a child deemed an upper caste (and perhaps lived the live of an upper caste) legitimately represent and serve the people of the lower caste. Further of course the court recognizes caste and in fact Indian law recognizes caste. That is why there are reserved seats whether it is for political represention or education or jobs, etc. People are known to work round the intention and spirit of the law to suit their own purpose. And others use the rules to their convenience. This is like the Goan school-drop-out who gets a preferential beachside shack then rents it to a bhailo to run it while the drop-out continues to be KIPPERS (kids in parent's pockets eroding retirement savings). At the last Illinois senate election in the USA, a republican / conservative 'afro' candidate (previously a presidential candidate, UN representative and considered an intellectual) accused his rival of 'not being black enough'. (The father was black Tanzanian and mother was white American). When asked to explain, he said that his opponent (even though consider himself 'afro' and married to an 'afro' girl) had not gone through 'the slave understanding' that US blacks experienced. Of course that lame explanation backfired and he lost pretty badly! Venantius J Pinto: The case below is interesting and is also politically motivated. Although, the court says that the child is entitled to the fathers caste; it should not immediately follow that the court is insistent-- that the child's future, be determined by accepting the ruling prima facie. The courts way of approaching the case is also a way of saying that caste does play a role in ones life. This leads to all kinds of further questions. TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, JANUARY 29, 2005 02:46:13 AM ] NEW DELHI: Supreme Court has ruled that a child born out of wedlock is entitled to his or her father's lineage. By holding this in a petition involving the caste status of a legislator elected from a reserved constituency in Andhra Pradesh, a Bench of Chief Justice R C Lahoti, Justices G P Mathur and P K Balasubramanyan upheld an Andhra Pradesh High Court judgment which had set aside the election of TDP candidate Sobha Hymvathi Devi. She had contested the 1999 assembly election from the Sringavarapukota constituency reserved for Scheduled Tribes on the ground that her mother belonged to the Bagatha community, a notified ST community. Gangadhara Swamy, who lost to Sobha, had challenged her election on the ground that she did not belong to the Bagatha community. - Cip Fernandes: QUESTION The children of Hindu parents, (one is Brahmin and the other is Sudra), what caste these children inherit? ... and why? Just curious, 664 West 163 Street, #57 New York, NY 10032-4527 USA PH/Fax: +1 212.928.3955
[Goanet]Paklleo - Lhan Kovita
PAKLLEO (Petals) I Duereachim sopnam sakarunk Jinn bhor bhonvlom, Svothachem sopon niallunk Vell na re gavlo. ( He worked through out his life to fulfill the dreams of others. But he did have have time even to think of his own dreams) II Gorib girestak Lhanvikaien hansta. Girest goribak Vhoddponnan lozta. (A poor man gives a smile to a rich man with a sense of humility. A rich man shies away from a poor man with a sense of pride.) Tomazinho Cardozo Orda, Candolim, Bardez, Goa. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30. 01. 05
Re: [Goanet]Sad day for Goa/Goans
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will indeed be a sad day for Goa and Goans, if the Congress start to govern and allow all the malfeasance taking place to continue. So what do you do in regard to the malfeasance? Wait in the queue for the next Wimbeldon tourno? B. Colaco ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]The Goan Forum is pleased to announce its PERSONA(E) of the Year 2004
The Goan Forum is pleased to announce its PERSONA(E) of the Year 2004. Your reaction to the article is welcome. good wishes josé colaço == excerpt - The New Year is already upon us, and we at The Goan Forum take this opportunity to look back at identifying an individual or a set of individuals who have made the most distinctive contribution to Goa in the year 2004. This contribution does not necessarily have to be beneficial to Goa or Goans, only that it has been the most distinctive. We at The Goan Forum chose January 30th to name this persona(e) as it is on this day in 1948 that the greatest Indian Apostle of Peace Mahatma Gandhi was murdered by a right wing Hindu nationalist. Mahatma Gandhi had given up a life of every possible luxury in order to fight for equality, justice, freedom, peace and what is right. And he was gunned down for that. So much for the rightwing Hindus, or for that matter, rightwing Christians and Muslims. We believe that many men and women in Goa yearn for equality, justice, freedom, peace and what is right, but are too afraid to articulate those thoughts in public. They are unfortunately left helpless as they watch impotently the charade played by powerful interest groups and the sycophants who parrot the talking points handed to them. Mercifully, not every single Goan is a sossegado fence sitter. There are indeed a few exceptions. Among the individuals we looked at: Goa's present Chief Minister Mr. Manohar Parrikar, well-known Goa journalist Fred Noronha, brilliant writer from the heart Ethel da Costa, principled activists of conscience, Godfrey Gonsalves Miguel Braganza, conscientious objector Dr. Francisco Colaço, noted Goan Arvind Bhaticar, Goa University botanist Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, Goa Union of Journalists president Ashley do Rosario, The Heraldo newspaper, the pit bull watchdog Floriano Lobo, journalists of the future like Melvyn Misquita and the gadfly publication, the Independent Goan Observer and its principals. Full Article at http://www.colaco.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
[Goanet]KGTS - KONKNNI MACHIEK NOMAN on Friday, 4th Feb 2005.
KGTS - KONKNNI MACHIEK NOMAN Kuwait Goa Tiatristanchi Sonsvtha in association with Goan Welfare Society presents Goa,s Nightingale Miss Lorna on Friday 4th February 2005 at Gulf English School Auditorium, Rumetiya, Kuwait, from 3.30 pm onwards. Also featuring all the way from Goa is Goas Ace Trumpeter Agnelo Dias, Comedian Dominic, John DSilva, Luis Bachan, Francis de Tuem, Menino Mario, Meena Sabina. KGTS maiden venture Tiatr Ani Tiatrist was a magic and this time nothing less, superb stage setting, irresistible sound system, special lights effects, scintillating music, sparkling side shows, colorful costumes and vibrant video visual. Besides KGTS members Kuwait based Konkani film playback singer Adolf will be seen singing for the first time on Konkani stage. Its not over be there we do have more surprises, remember only KGTS can give the perfect blend of music, songs, comedy tragedy. For further information please contact: 6184198, 6195091, 9106617, 6262597, 9391452, 6153265, 6169501, 6170052, 6235229, 9570795, 9418939, 6633761, 6627559, 7870433, 7543113, 7165438. @@@
[Goanet]30 JAN 2005: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 30 January, 2005 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Eke vatin dusre vatik pettoilear kainch tacho uzvadd padd zainam. (A candle loses none of its light by lighting another candle.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] PARRIKAR GOVERNMENT ON THE BRINK OF DEFEAT: As Congress MLAs and their new found friends huddled in their rooms in a five-star resort, to rest and recuperate for Sunday's day of reckoning, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar reeled under the shock and awe treatment given by Babush Monserrate and the Congress conglomerate that engaged in precision bombing and reduced the BJP government to a minority. The 31-month-old BJP-led coalition government is on the brink of collapse after four BJP MLAs - former Town and Country Planning Minister Atanasio Monserrate, Transport Minister Pandurang Madkaikar, Poinguinim MLA Isidore Fernandes and Benaulim MLA Francisco X Pacheco - resigned from the membership of the Goa Assembly while MGP MLA, Ramkrishna Dhavlikar and independent MLA Filipe Neri Rodrigues and the one UGDP withdrew support to the government and decided to support a Congress-led government. (WE-GT) COERCION, FORGERY COMPLAINT AGAINST CM, SPEAKER: Two separate complaints were, on January 29, submitted for inquiry to the Governor of Goa alleging that the Chief Minister and Speaker of the Goa Legislative Assembly had indulged in alleged coercion and inducement. The first complaint was from Pandurang Madkaikar that he was forced to withdraw his resignation when he went to submit it. The second complaint was submitted by Acting President of the UGDP, Radharao Gracias, who alleged that the government had indulged in a computer generated forgery by producing a fax in the name of Tourism Minister Matanhy Saldanha that he was extending his support to the State government. (H) I STILL HAVE MAJORITY: CM: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on January 29 claimed that he was still enjoying majority and was ready to prove his majority in the Goa Assembly.He refused to disclose the total number of MLAs supporting him but reiterated that he was prepared to prove his majority on the floor of the House. (WE-GT) CONG IS IN COMFORTABLE POSITION: MARGARET: All India Congress Committee general secretary incharge of Goa, Margaret Alva, on Saturday said that the Congress is in a comfortable position to form the next government in Goa, which needs a stable and secular government. (WE-GT) MATANHY HOLDS THE KEY: Once again, it will be the Tourism Minister Matanhy Saldanha who will hold the key to the outcome of the political developments. Saldanha who was in Spain attending a tourism mart, is cutting short his trip in view of the political developments taking place and arriving on Sunday. (H) RANE, LUIZINHO, RAVI IN RACE: With the stage one of 'Operation Topple' nearing completion, the focus now shifts to the likely formation of a new government after the BJP-led coalition has lost its majority on the floor of the Goa Assembly.Goa Pradesh Congress Committee president Luizinho Faleiro, Congress Legislature Party leader Pratapsing Rane and former Chief Minister Ravi Naik are the three names doing the rounds. There is also a dark horse in the form of Pernem MLA and CLP spokesman, Jitendra Deshprabhu. (WE-GT) MLAS JUSTIFY THEIR RESIGNATIONS: Having submitted their resignations from the ruling BJP dispensation, the four MLAs justified their actions giving reasons ranging from revenge to the much-cliched development of their constituencies. (NT) CASH STOLEN: Burglars decamped with cash of Rs.70,000 from the parochial residence of the Santa Cruz church on January 22 sometime between 9 am and 10 pm. (H) PANJIM CARNIVAL TO OPEN WITH SHIGMO DHOL: Gearing up for the Carnival on a different beat this year, the Panjim Festivals and Carnival Committee will open the Fusion Carnival 2005 with the Shigmo Dhol fused in with other music. The Carnival in Panjim on February 5 will start off with the Alvorada at 5.00 am.Last year there were 79 floats and this year a similar response is expected.While the parade in the past began from under the bridge, this year the parade will begin from the Dayanand Bandodkar Memorial, near the old Secretariat at 3.30 pm and wind up at the Kala Academy. The Mini-Carnival opposite the Dempo House will extend from February 6 to February 8 and will comprise of free open-air programmes. (H) UNCERTAINTY DOGS CENTENNIAL CELEBRATIONS: The Margao Municipality building completes a century of its inception on February 5, this year. However, the lethargic attitude of the Margao Municipal Council could ensure that the celebrations are a pale shadow of what they were meant to be. (NT) 'CO-OPERATE TO FOSTER PEACE': In commemoration of Peace Day, the Archbishop Rev Filipe Neri Ferrao has called upon parish priests and pastoral clergy as well as superiors of the educational and religious institutions to organise prayer services, visits to the Blessed sacrament as well as other relevant programmes, even
Re: [Goanet] Hate-filled anti-Iraqis
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pay close attention to the line...When facts threaten true believers, they simply close their eyes and pray harder. Mario replies: I think the above quote describes you perfectly. It is my beliefs that are succeeding in Iraq, not yours. However, while you have prayed hard over the last months, your prayers that the killings of innocent Iraqis by your Baathist friends will succeed have failed, and the thirst for freedom and democracy has prevailed in Iraq, and the country is well on the way to being the democracy that you and your jihadi friends tried to derail and failed miserably.
[Goanet]Goa: Congress-led United Legislature Party - How long this Party will last - a year, months or weeks ?
Congress leads a new front NT Staff Reporter Panaji Jan 30: The legislators belonging to the Congress party, the Nationalist Congress Party; the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party, the United Goans Democratic Party and the Independent member, Mr Filip Neri Rodrigues today morning formed Congress-led United Legislature Party, with the UGDP senior vice-president, Mr Radharao Gracias as its convenor to force the Governor, Mr S C Jamir to accede to its demand for dismissal of the Parrikar government. However, the leaders have not named the person who would head it. Briefing reporters outside the Raj Bhavan at Dona Paula this evening, the Goa pradesh Congress committee president, Mr Luizinho Faleiro informed that the ULP leader would be selected by the Congress high command. Mr Faleiro said the ULP had in a resolution demanded that the Governor should use his prerogative under Article 164 of the Constitution and dismiss the Parrikar government without any delay. He said it was pleasure of the Governor to appoint and dismiss the government. We have jointly today handed over a memorandum to the Governor requesting him that the present BJP government has lost its majority, he informed. Mr Faleiro observed that the resignation of four BJP MLAs had created serious constitutional crisis in Goa and that the state cannot go on at this rate and therefore the Congress had demanded dismissal of the government and form an alternative government. The Governor is the custodian of the Constitution and he has to act when constitutional crises are taking place, Mr Faleiro stated. The GPCC chief said the BJP MLAs were frustrated and were trying to contact our MLAs by luring them with bribes and other incentives. He said the Speaker, Mr Viswas Satarkar had acted in partisan manner and instead of accepting the resignation of Mr Pandurang Madkaikar the Speaker had not accepted it till now. He said his party would move no-confidence motion against the Speaker and the deputy Speaker, because both had pressurised the MLAs supporting the ULP. Mr Faleiro scoffed off the BJP allegation that the Congress was using pressure tactic through the Raj Bhavan. On the other hand, the UGDP leader, Mr Radharao Gracias informed that the ULP had submitted a list of 19 MLAs and claimed that the BJPs strength has reduced to 16 MLAs. I am acting president of the UGDP and I dont need to speak to Mr Mathany Saldanha, and when BJP MLAs have deserted Mr Parrikar, why Mr Saldanha should support him?, Mr Gracias questioned. Mr Gracias claimed Mr Saldanha would not support the Parrikar government, who lost his party MLAs.
[Goanet]Goa: Should the Governor Mr S C Jamir disolve the Legislative Assembly ?
BJP, Cong set for trial of strength NT Staff Reporter Panaji Jan 30: The state was headed for a trial of strength in the legislative assembly to test the majority of the Parrikar government. The Governor, Mr S C Jamir was quoted by a TV channel to have said: Now that the government has been reduced to a minority, ... I now propose to test on the floor of the House. That is the only way that I can ascertain... without delay. Mr Jamir further said, Since four members of BJP have resigned and other constituents of the government, they have also resigned from there, so I have to see which one is the majority and after that I shall take the constitutional measures to test on the floor of the House. The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party camp insisted on the trial of strength in the House while the Congress pressed for dismissal of the Parrikar government on the plea that it is reduced to minority. The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, who called on the Governor late last night, said that he had informed the Governor of his preparedness to prove the majority on the floor of the House and that the Governor had agreed to it. On the other hand, the Congress-combine has strongly opposed giving time to the Parrikar government to prove majority on the floor of the House and demanded that the Governor should invoke Article 160-1 and sack the Parrikar government. Congress leaders the South Goa MP, Mr Churchill Alemao; the Goa pradesh Congress committee president, Mr Luizinho Faleiro along with the leaders of the United Goans Democratic Party and the Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party claimed that the Congress-combine has a support of 19 MLAs, and stated that the BJP government has been reduced to minority and this was sufficient ground for the Governor to dismiss the government. The Tourism Minister, Mr Mathany Saldanha, who is arriving in Goa tomorrow from Spain, is at the centre of confusion as both Congress-combine and the BJP are claiming his support. Though sources in the BJP has said that Mr Saldanha has arrived in Mumbai, the UGDP senior vice-president, Mr Radharao Gracias informed that Mr Saldanha, the UGDP MLA, will reach Goa tomorrow. Though the AICC general-secretary incharge of Goa desk, Ms Margarette Alva told reporters that she would arrive in Goa today, but the Congress camp said she had not arrived. The BJP camp claimed that the enthusiasm in the Congress camp has died down and that some of the party leaders had re-established their contact in the rival camp. The leaders of the Congress combine Dr Wilfred de Souza of the Nationalist Congress Party, the GPCC chief, the MGP president, Mr Pandurang Raut, UGDPs Mr Radharao Gracias late this evening called on the Governor and submitted a memorandum demanding dismissal of the Parrikar government. The Congress combine has also shifted its base from a five-star hotel to former minister, Mr Atanacio Monserrates residence at Taleigao. Mr Parrikar today sent a letter to the Governor recording his discussion with him the evening of January 29. The letter reads, After informing the Governor about the events which are alleged to have taken place and the possibility of the state government having suffered loss of majority, I emphatically stated before your Excellency that even though the strength of the legislative assembly has been reduced to thirty-seven members, I and my government still command majority in the House and that I would like to prove the same on the floor of the House in accordance with the judgment of the Honorable Supreme Court in S R Bommai Case and Jagdambika Pal Case. The letter also puts on record, Your Excellency was good enough to accept that I need to prove my majority on the floor of the House. By this letter, in view of the impending pressure which is likely to be mounted and in view of the attempt being made by the Indian National Congress party to pressurise exploiting the fact that the Congress party enjoys power at central government level, I wish to reiterate, affirm and confirm to your Excellency that I am eager to prove my majority strength on the floor of the Goa legislative assembly, once convened by your Excellency and the Honorable Speaker. PTI adds: Defending action against corrupt ministers, senior leader of the Bharatiya Janata Party, Mr Murli Manohar Joshi today said the Goa Chief Minister would manage to prove majority on the floor of the House and some MLAs from the other side may support the BJP-led government. A flock of MLAs from other side might join Parrikar, but in the backdrop of crisis in Goa, Governor S C Jamirs role is dubious, Mr Joshi told reporters in Jaipur. Parrikar is hard, honest and serious politician and could not see his ministers going beyond the limit of corruption and it is necessary to curb such act in the government, Mr Joshi told a press conference here. In my opinion it was not the question of right or wrong but a matter of corruption which was intolerable for any BJP government,
[Goanet]Goa Politics; what next?
Hello Gabe, I second your opinion, and whom do we have who we know better? Well I for one although know him only on goanet, and not personally, I still would suggest Floriano. With 7000 strong Goanetters chain, Internet can be the best advertisement for Floranio and His party Hello Floriano are you listening? Jerry Fernandes Message: 10 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:08:03 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Goa Politics; what next? Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org Goa deserves better than either of the two main political parties. Both Congress and the BJP are unworthy of the Goan People's support. -- Cheers, Gabe. Wimbledon - London England. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, Mario will respond by saying: Roy Hallums is a leftist anti-US, anti-Iraqi jihadist. He supports the Baathist insurgents. He probably faked his own kidnapping and the made the videotape himself. Mario replies: Tariq, I did not say any of what you predicted, so you were wrong once again. Besides, it does not matter what you think. The Iraqis have defeated your insurgent Baathist killers at the polls today and the world has passed you by.
Re: [Goanet]President Bush and I...
Cornel wrote: Thank you for your reply. I would definitely not wish to be associated with Blair, the ultimate poodle of George Bush, who in turn, I find utterly dispicable in terms of neocon logic. And incidentally, what's this about me living in grimy London? Mario responds: Cornel, it does not matter anymore what you anti-Iraqis and anti-Americans think, about George Bush or Tony Blair or myself, for the matter. The turnout in Iraq shows that the world has passed you by. If your ideas had prevailed, Iraq would still be brutalized by Saddam Hussein. You should look up what the word neo-con means. The last time I checked George Bush and I have always been conservatives, not neo-cons, and Tony Blair is a liberal. I have lived in London, and it is grimy. Sorry. You have probably not seen anything better.
[Goanet]Goan Catholics non-twice-born Hindus
GL responds: I don't know how this discussion is related to the above title. It does not even apply to what is the custom in Goa? (Which I do not know!) However the courts in the case below are not addressing 'the child's future'. The courts are addressing: Can a child deemed an upper caste (and perhaps lived the live of an upper caste) legitimately represent and serve the people of the lower caste. Further of course the court recognizes caste and in fact Indian law recognizes caste. That is why there are reserved seats whether it is for political represention or education or jobs, etc. People are known to work round the intention and spirit of the law to suit their own purpose. And others use the rules to their convenience. This is like the Goan school-drop-out who gets a preferential beachside shack then rents it to a bhailo to run it while the drop-out continues to be KIPPERS (kids in parent's pockets eroding retirement savings). At the last Illinois senate election in the USA, a republican / conservative 'afro' candidate (previously a presidential candidate, UN representative and considered an intellectual) accused his rival of 'not being black enough'. (The father was black Tanzanian and mother was white American). When asked to explain, he said that his opponent (even though consider himself 'afro' and married to an 'afro' girl) had not gone through 'the slave understanding' that US blacks experienced. Of course that lame explanation backfired and he lost pretty badly! Venantius J Pinto: The case below is interesting and is also politically motivated. Although, the court says that the child is entitled to the fathers caste; it should not immediately follow that the court is insistent-- that the child's future, be determined by accepting the ruling prima facie. The courts way of approaching the case is also a way of saying that caste does play a role in ones life. This leads to all kinds of further questions. TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, JANUARY 29, 2005 02:46:13 AM ] NEW DELHI: Supreme Court has ruled that a child born out of wedlock is entitled to his or her father's lineage. By holding this in a petition involving the caste status of a legislator elected from a reserved constituency in Andhra Pradesh, a Bench of Chief Justice R C Lahoti, Justices G P Mathur and P K Balasubramanyan upheld an Andhra Pradesh High Court judgment which had set aside the election of TDP candidate Sobha Hymvathi Devi. She had contested the 1999 assembly election from the Sringavarapukota constituency reserved for Scheduled Tribes on the ground that her mother belonged to the Bagatha community, a notified ST community. Gangadhara Swamy, who lost to Sobha, had challenged her election on the ground that she did not belong to the Bagatha community. - Cip Fernandes: QUESTION The children of Hindu parents, (one is Brahmin and the other is Sudra), what caste these children inherit? ... and why? Just curious,
[Goanet]Is Goa heading for President's Rule ?
With all the developments and the mickey-mouse games this week in Amchem Goa, the Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar has still a few surprises! And tomorrow, Jan. 31, 2005, everything will open up? The pandora's box et el. The suspense is killing! In the worst scenario, one can anticipate Goa heading for President's Rule? Or we will still have the Chief Minister laughing all the way, in the capacity of a caretaker of all the elements or the State itself! There's an old saying that goes thus, If you live with a problem long enough, it could eventually become a blessing. Within every adversity in life, there is always a seed of an equivalent or greater benefit. We have to look for it - find it - and act on it. Indeed, the Chief Minister has, in the past, from the Opposition benches! AlmeidaG(ji) www.goa-world.com 30/1/2005 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: [Goanet]CASHEW FRUIT (CAJU!)
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:06:52 +0300, domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cashew is a plant native to northeastern Brazil where it is called by its Portuguese name Cajú (the fruit) or Cajueiro (the tree.) It was brought to Goa at the end of the fifteenth century where it soon became naturalized Comment: Perhaps it was at the end of the sixttenth century? Cheers, Gabe
[Goanet]Re: Fr Jose Vaz
Hi Goanetters, Fact of the matter is that, the below is true. Priests and experts will agree with, silently it may be. That is why they will not raise their voice. If one reads his life story, it is incredible. For a start, priest in those days had to be wealthy. Poor men were not allowed to join the priesthood. Sincerely, Afra Dias
[Goanet]RE: NEWS ANALYSIS: JUGGLING MLAs PROVES PARRIKAR'S UNDOING
TO ALCON @ GOANET, Thanks for all the info...excellent ! keep up the good work,. Best regards, Charles Fernandes E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet]THE SWASTIKA
Cornel, Yes. There is a tortuous link though between the two versions of the slanted cross: the preachings of Madam Blavatsky and the initiation of Hitler in the Thule Society. Arjun
Re: [Goanet]RE: news from Mess - o - potamia
jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents threatened a bloodbath on Sunday when Iraqis go to the polls in an election intended to unite the country and quell violence but which could instead foment sectarian strife. === jc comment Blogs aside, Let us pray that this election proceeds and concludes without any untoward incident. Mario adds: The insurgents and their supporters have been defeated in their attempt to de-rail the Iraqi elections. While it was too much to ask that the elections proceed without any untoward incident, the early reports are that over 60% of the electorate braved death to vote. The following is also a report from Reuters on www.myway.com: Iraqis Brave Bombs to Vote in Their Millions Jan 30, 9:12 AM (ET) By Luke Baker BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Some came on crutches, others walked for miles then struggled to read the ballot, but across Iraq, millions turned out to vote Sunday, defying insurgents who threatened a bloodbath. Suicide bombs and mortars killed at least 27 people, but voters still came out in force for the first multi-party poll in 50 years. In some places they cheered with joy at their first chance to cast a free vote, in others they shared chocolates. Even in Falluja, the Sunni city west of Baghdad that was a militant stronghold until a U.S. assault in November, a steady stream of people turned out, confounding expectations. Lines of veiled women clutching their papers waited to vote. We want to be like other Iraqis, we don't want to always be in opposition, said Ahmed Jassim, smiling after he voted. In Baquba, a rebellious city northeast of Baghdad, spirited crowds clapped and cheered at one voting station. In Mosul, scene of some of the worst insurgent attacks in recent months, U.S. and local officials said turnout was surprisingly high. One of the first to vote was President Ghazi al-Yawar, a Sunni Muslim Arab with a large tribal following, who cast his ballot inside Baghdad's fortress-like Green Zone. Thanks be to God, he told reporters, emerging from the booth with his right index finger stained with bright blue ink to show he had voted. I hope everyone will go out and vote. In the relatively secure Kurdish north, people flowed steadily to the polls. One illiterate man in Arbil, 76-year-old Said Rasool, came alone and was turned away, unable to read the ballot paper. He said he would return with someone to help. Even in the so-called triangle of death, a hotbed of Sunni insurgency south of Baghdad, turnout was solid, officials said. FESTIVE VOTING In mainly Shi'ite Basra, Iraq's second biggest city, hundreds of voters queued patiently at polling centers. I am not afraid, said Samir Khalil Ibrahim. This is like a festival for all Iraqis. A small group cheered in Baghdad as Sharif Ali bin al-Hussein, a descendant of Iraq's last king, went to the polls. Ali leads a constitutional monarchy slate in the election. Western Baghdad polling stations were busy, with long queues of voters. Most went about the process routinely, filling in their ballots and leaving quickly without much emotion. Others brought chocolates for those waiting in line, and shared festive juice drinks inside the voting station. Samir Hassan, 32, who lost his leg in a car bomb blast in October, was determined to vote. I would have crawled here if I had to. I don't want terrorists to kill other Iraqis like they tried to kill me. Today I am voting for peace, he said, leaning on his metal crutches, determination in his reddened eyes. In Sadr City, a poor Shi'ite neighborhood of northeast Baghdad, thick lines of voters turned out, women in black abaya robes in one line, men in another. Some of the first to vote countrywide were policemen, out in force to protect polling centers from attack, part of draconian security measures put in place by U.S. and Iraqi officials. In Samarra, a restive Sunni-Shi'ite city north of Baghdad, the crackle of gunfire was heard minutes after polls opened. After a few hours, only about 100 people had voted at one of two polling sites. One woman, covered head-to-toe in black robes, kept her face concealed, but said she voted with pride. In nearby Baiji, some people were unable to vote because electoral officials failed to turn up. We are waiting for the manager with the key, said an election worker, apologizing. VOTE FOR HUMANITY In the shrine city of Najaf in the Shi'ite heartland, hundreds of people walked calmly to polling stations. Security around Najaf, attacked before, was some of the tightest. This is a wedding for all Iraqis. I congratulate all Iraqis on their newfound freedom and democracy, said Jaida Hamza, dressed in a black Islamic veil that also hid her face. Shi'ites, who make up 60 percent of Iraq's people, are expected to win the vote, overturning years of oppression. In Kirkuk, a city divided between Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen, Kurds turned out in force, as expected, but there were signs Arabs and
[Goanet]RE: Gilbert, Casta ani Class
From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gilbert, I am sure others will have noted that we are discussing CASTE and not Class as per your post. There is a significant difference between the two. Regards, Cornel Well said Cornel There is this unwitting or perhaps convenient switch that some make between Caste and Class. Never mind what the explanationists saythere is a difference between Caste and Class. For instance - a Kunbi can become a teacher or lawyer or whatever, and move up in the Class structurebut will NEVER move up the Caste structure. Not in this life NOT after a zillion rebirths - whatever that means. Don't know why Anybody would try to fuse (rather confuse) the two. Why not just accept the fact that the wretched Caste System is the original Apartheid, accept the errors of our Hindu forebears (as also those allegedly Catholic forbears of ours who practiced it), change our behaviour pattern by refusing to follow this Racist nonsense anymore, and move on? One more point: Please do not spout as Gospel truth or Manusmriti that all our forbears were necessarily Hindu. Please understand - that when der Albuquerque came to Goasenhor patrao Idalcao aka Adil Khan (Adil Shah) was ruling the place. We could safely say that Senhor Cao wasn't in Goa for a weekend or two. Could we not? We could also say (very safely) that over a 30 year span in Goa, the 'Caos must have circumscribed a good number of fellas, and captured a good number of fellis in Goa. The Fellis were exactly sent to Santa Monica convent ... were they? And so we could safely say that genetic input of the 'caos in mind .there were quite a number of Muslims of semi Turkish descent in Goa (read Old Goa)where that horrible Inquisition later based itself. So.let's accept somethings, stop this revision nonsense and move on. jc http://www.colaco.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Reply to Laina Evy's Query
Hi! the site is http://www.goaeduboard.org Have been checking out myself but no updates yet. Best Of Luck! Brgds Vernon Rodrigues Vernon Rodrigues
[Goanet]Sad day for Goa/Goans
It will indeed be a sad day for Goa and Goans, if the Congress start to govern and allow all the malfeasance taking place to continue. Just because one brings down the Government, the opposition who then takeover should not overlook any wrongdoings of any MLAs. -- Cheers, Gabe. Wimbledon - London England.
[Goanet]Goa, Sonia moves in!
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnewsid=66849 Sonia Gandhi discusses political situation in Goa: [India News]: New Delhi, Jan 29 : Congress President Sonia Gandhi tonight discussed with senior party leaders the political situation in Goa where the BJP government plunged into a crisis with three of its MLAs resigning from the assembly and two withdrawing support to it. The meeting, held at Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's residence, was attended among others by Home Minister Shivraj Patil, Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, Political Secretary to Congress President Ahmad Patel and AICC General Secretary Margaret Alva. Alva, who was in Panaji earlier in the day, presented a report to Gandhi. Later, Alva said now it was for the Governor to take a decision in the matter. PTI -- Cheers, Gabe. Wimbledon - London England.
[Goanet]Feast of Our Lady of Springs Nossa Senhora das Brotas 2/2/2005
With just two days left for the Feast of Our Lady of Springs Nossa Senhora das Brotas on 2/2/2005 at Anjediv Island off Canacona Taluka Goa, near Binaga Karwar this writer spoke to Rear Admiral S Sinha Flag Office Commanding Goa area at Vasco da Gama Goa this afternoon. Mr Sinha who has impeccable secular credentials in his teletalk with this writer afternoon admitted that he himself had during his visit to the Church at Anjediv issued instructions to maintain it in a dignified manner. . When reminded of his assurance in July 2004 that the Navy would like to build bridges of friendship with the civilians and allow the visits to the Island he said he stood by that stand but this project coming under the Sea Bird comes under a separate wing at headquarters in New Delhi and they need to be approached. This writer then went to Karwar this evening for consultations with the BJP MLA of Karwar Mr Gangadhar Bhat at Sadashivgad and requested him to make arrangements for the buses arriving from Goa on the feast day to be parked at the KSRTC stand after dropping the devoutees at the Administrative office gate for the Mass at 10OO a.m and 1.00 p.m. Mr Bhat willingly agreed to make all these arrangements and assured to talk to the RTO officials and District Commissioner Karwar and left for Bangalore at 4.00 p.m. as the Karnataka Legislative Assembly session begins tommorrow. He however provided this writer his mobile number 9440125833 for easy communication. He also added that the Sea Bird authorities need to give permission for the Feast to which he was informed that it is customary and hence their permission is only a matter or routine not Sea bird authorities discreetion. Thereafter the writer went to the Sea Bird Administrative officers gate No 2 but was informed that Cmdr S. S Karnik had just left for the Karwar Market. This writer visited the Sea Bird Office at Binaga and left a hand written note informing him that a) all arrangements may kindly be made for the Feast and giving reference of letter dated 15.1.2005 written by the office of the Archbishop of Goa Daman REPLY FOR WHICH IS STILL AWAITED by the Archbishops office; b) all devoutees have been informed not to carry any food or water and that the Sea Bird officials should kindly arrange for the water / toilet facilities on the Feast Day c) admission would be desired at the Administrative office gate No 2 d) such other measures as would ensure the safe conduct of the festivities as usual Notwithstanding artillery programme or threat perception from a few the customary feast cannot be done away with on this ground and all security arrangement need to be made to check the menance Thereafter the writer interacted with the Parish Priest of Binaga who was only facilitating the arrangements for the Feast at the behest of the Archbishops office. However the people of Karwar who have also been attending to this Feast, and met this writer were of the strong opinion that the officials of the Archdiocese of Goa and Daman should meet the officials of the Sea Bird and discuss with them once and for all an arranged programme as such last minute arrangements and directions from Panaji Goa only causes confusion. They requested the undersigned to convey this to the office of the Archbishop, for them they stated was a Feast as the Zorichem Saibinn as they fondly call Our Lady was their Protector while they were at sea irrespective of religious belief Hindus or Catholics This writer has been interacting with Fr Joaquim Loyola Pereira since the 10th of January 2005 but except for the letter dated 15th January 2005 no follow-up has been done till date. Merely awaiting a response from New Delhi will not serve the purpose. None of the committee members of the Archdiocese of Goa Daman have been able to give a clear answer as to the arrangements, nor have they visited Binaga till date. hence the anxiety on the programme details. Besides the writer also contacted telephonically Dr John Dayal Vice President of All India Catholic Union New Delhi 09811021072 and he is believed to be approaching the authorities in New Delhi on the matter, Ms Margaret Alva the RS member who hails from North Kanara was also contacted telephonically earlier by this writer at New Delhi and she promised to take up the matter with the Defence Minister and the Home Minister as well. She is presently in Goa owing to political developments. Other MPs Mr Churchill Alemao and Mr Eduardo Faleiro and Chief Minister Mr Manohar Parrikar have also been posted of the developments but no response has been forthcoming. Meanwhile the customary Feast will be held as usual with two masses at 1000 am and 1.00 p.m. For those proceeding to Karwar they can take the State transport buses from Goa and get down at Karwar Bus stand and proceed by autorickshaw to the venue from there as usual the Naval authorities will provide buses. Incidentally it may be noted that contrary to common belief
[Goanet]CASHEW FRUIT (CAJU!)
The cashew is a plant native to northeastern Brazil where it is called by its Portuguese name Cajú (the fruit) or Cajueiro (the tree.) It was brought to Goa at the end of the fifteenth century where it soon became naturalized due to compatible warm and humid climate. In addition to being delicious, cashew fruit is a rich source of vitamins, minerals, and other essential nutrients. It has up to five times more vitamin C than oranges and contains a high amount of mineral salts. Volatile compounds present in the fruit include esters, terpenes, and carboxylic acids. Some people are allergic to cashews but cashews are a less frequent allergen than some other nuts. The seed is surrounded by a double shell containing a caustic phenolic resin. The bark and leaves of cashew tree are used medicinally. They are a rich source of tannins, a group of plant chemicals with documented biological activity; hence, Anacardic acids are found in cashews with their highest concentration in the nutshells. Cashew plants are usually grown from seeds. They begin bearing the second year, are in full production by the 10th year, and continue bearing for another 20 years. The yield varies from 1 to 100 pounds per tree. Cashew fruit ripens in 2 to 3 months and is harvested from the tree or picked up soon after falling. Cashew fruit contain a potent skin irritant toxin called urushiol within the dark green nut shells. This must be removed when the seed inside is processed for consumption; this is done by hulling the nuts, a somewhat hazardous process. Exceedingly painful skin burns (similar to poison ivy burns) among processing workers are frequent. In the past, cashew fruit juice was used to treat influenza, and people also brewed a tea of leaves and bark to treat diarrhea and colic in infants. Caju is one of the best fruits that I like during the summer. There are many types of caju vhoddle caju (large cashew), lhan caju (small cashew), holdulle caju (yellow cashew), tambdde caju (red cashew), rosall caju (juicy cashew), dikalle caju, etc. A ripe cashew plucked from a tree tastes the best. I can never resist the temptation of plucking a good, ripe cashew from a tree. Whenever I travel by motorbike or car while on vacation in Goa, my eyesight is always set on the roadside cashew trees. As soon as I see a ripe cashew on a tree, I stop my motorbike or if traveling by car I ask the driver to stop the car and proceed to the tree. If the cashew is on a lower branch, I try to pluck it by bending the branch. If it is on a high branch, I pick up a stone, aim at it and am mostly able to bring it down with the first hit, which not only makes me feel good but also takes me back to my childhood. If I dont succeed in bringing down the cashew within a couple of attempts, I climb the trunk and shake the branch, collect the cashew, wash it with water, hold the cashew by its seed, bite off the stem area and throw it out and place the whole cashew (depending on its size) into my mouth, at the same time twisting and removing the seed and making sure that juice does not run out of my mouth and fall on my clothes as once it dries it creates stains which cannot easily be removed. Although we have cashew trees on our hilly plot, the norm in childhood was to steal from a neighbor's compound. That created an adventure for us and we enjoyed it very much. The best time to eat cashews is early in the morning from dawn until 9:00 a.m., after which time they become hot and not so pleasant to eat. RAW CASHEW SEEDS (FOKAM) Besides cashew seeds, which is a great business in Goa, we also have FOKAM or BIBE (raw cashew seeds.) As children we ate a lot of fokam, especially those who had cashew trees of their own. Whenever we were hungry, we would visit our properties or the hill, pick up fokam from unripe cashews on a tree and remove the inner kernel as follows: Take two small dry sticks Hold them in each hand Place the fok (raw cashew seed) flat on the ground and remove the eye from the middle of the seed with a stick Place the fok on the ground on its back and keep the big thumb of your right foot on its lower part Make a gash in the middle on the upper tip of the fok Hold a dry stick in each hand and place both sticks into the gash with cross hands Apply pressure in opposite directions until the shell tears apart Place the right hand stick under the kernel and lift it up Keep aside removed seeds Once through the lot, clean the seeds with a cloth and peel off the skin and enjoy eating them. Please keep in mind that fokancho/bibeancho dik (cardol) is very caustic it even creates boils on the skin. In the olden days, the toxic oil from cashew nuts was used as external worm medicine to kill botfly larvae under the skin. The shell provides insect-repelling vesicant oil which in the
[Goanet]THE RIBANDAR CHURCH CASE AND BEYOND
In the current political musical chairs in our tiny yet so politically notorious Goa many shall win and some will have to bite the bitter dust. I am however saddened that one victim of this crisis has been Goas Chief Secretary Mr. D. S. Negi. I have had the opportunity and privilege to interact with most of Goas Chief Secretaries. Many have been very dynamic and some of them have left much to be desired. But in Mr. Negi, Goa was privileged to have an officer so capable yet so unassuming, humble and ever so accessible to one and all. He had Goas all round and our agriculture cum floriculture prospects in particular at heart. Every political crisis has an officer as a victim and may be this one was destined to have Mr. Negi as a scapegoat. On a different note could I most kindly request fellow netters not to be e-mailing me about further developments on the Ribandar Church molestation case. After deep thought and serious confabulations with my colleagues I have decided not to pursue the case, which I feel, should now be left to the wisdom of the law enforcement authorities, the Courts and the ultimate ruling of Our Almighty God. I have always believed that by raising this genuine issue I would be only strengthening the Catholic faith to which I shall be ever glued. I took up this issue when the devastated mother of the victim of the molested child told me the sad sequence of events. I am glad that Auda Viegas of the Bailancho Exvott is a living witness to whom the said mother of the victim and the victim herself spoke of the alleged sexual abuse by Ribandars Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues. So nobody can accuse me of framing the Priest. Now, with the mother and the victim having for reasons best known to them decided to withdraw the complaint they so voluntarily filed, I am left with a Cross too heavy to bear. And as some of my good friends have advised me, fighting the Mighty and so Wealthy Church is like banging your head against a dead wall. For personal reasons and in the best interests of my career I am very seriously contemplating to move out of Sunny Goa. Bombay, New Delhi and Bangalore are amongst the other options I am seriously contemplating. Wherever I am, my heart cum soul will be forever in Goa and Ribandar in particular for my ever so gratefulness for it having been my place of birth. The place I hope will be my eternal resting site. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Goa Hectic political activity
http://www.indiaexpress.com/news/regional/others/20050130-0.html Hectic political activity in Goa following crisis 13.08 IST 30th Jan 2005 By IndiaExpress Bureau Frantic meetings and brainstorming sessions were the order of the day in Goa today as the opposition Congress and the ruling BJP are gearing up for a show of strength in the Assembly with both claiming to have an upper hand in the number game. After yesterday's fast paced developments with the pendulum swinging one way and the other, both the camps were today busy formulating gameplans and holding constant meetings to prepare for the big fight ahead. The Governor S C Jamir's residence, which has been the cynosure of all eyes, however, was silent on the situation. The Governor has asked the government to prove its majority on the floor of the House. We will now wait and watch the developments, Raj Bhavan sources told a news agency. Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar's official residence in the city was the hub of all activity for the BJP camp, with a stream of people going in and out since morning. The Congress camp was closeted in a five star hotel on the outskirts of the city since yesterday and with the arrival of AICC general Secretary in-charge of Goa, Margaret Alva this morning, another round of meetings was on the cards. We will be having meetings throughout the day to plan out next course of action. Alva has also arrived and will be carrying the message from the high command so there will be discussion on that. We are all together and are confident that we have the numbers on our side, Congress party sources said in Panaji. -- Cheers, Gabe. Wimbledon - London England.
[Goanet]KGTS MEGA MUSICAL SHOW : KONKNNI MACHIEK NOMAN!
KONKNNI MACHIEK NOMAN Kuwait Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS) in association with Goan Welfare Society presents Goa's Nightingale Miss Lorna on Friday 4th February 2005 at Gulf English School Auditorium, Rumethiya-Kuwait from 3.30 pm onwards. Also featuring Goa's ace trumpeter Agnelo Dias, Comedian Dominic, John D'Silva, Luis Bachan, Francis de Tuem, Menino Mario, Meena Sabina. KGTS maiden venture Tiatr Ani Tiatrist was a magic and this time nothing less, superb stage setting, irresistible sound system, special lights effects, scintillating music, sparkling side shows, colorful costumes and vibrant video visual. Besides KGTS members, the show will also feature Kuwait-based Konkani film playback singer Adolf who will be seen singing for the first time on Konkani stage. Be there we do have more surprises, Remember only KGTS can give the perfect blend of music, songs, comedy and tragedy. For further info please contact: 6184198, 6195091, 9106617, 6262597, 9391452, 6153265, 6169501, 6170052, 6235229, 9570795, 9418939, 6633761, 6627559, 7870433, 7543113 7165438. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus
Gilbert, I regret have fallen behind on keeping track of Goanet posts. However, I am sure others will have noted that we are discussing CASTE and not Class as per your post. There is a significant difference between the two. Regards, Cornel
[Goanet]Goa political machinations.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=01304 -- I will prove majority in House, says Parrikar NT Staff Reporter Panaji Jan 29: The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar tonight called on the Governor, Mr S C Jamir and discussed the emerging political situation in the state. Mr Parrikar was accompanied by the state Bharatiya Janata Party president, Mr Rajendra Arlekar. Mr Arlekar, when contacted said that the Chief Minister has refused to accept that the BJP-led coalition government has been reduced to minority and agreed to face the floor test. He also said that the Chief Minister has informed the Governor that the Tourism Minister was away on official foreign tour and sought some time to face the test. The Governor has asked the Chief Minister to prove his majority on the floor of the House upon the arrival of the Tourism Minister and agreed to convene a special session on Monday, Mr Arlekar said. He said no date has been finalised for the floor test. Earlier, Mr Parrikar told a press conference that his three MLAs had resigned over some personal matter and denied that his government was reduced to minority. I am having a majority support and if needed I will prove it on the floor of the House, Mr Parrikar remarked. Justifying his action of stripping Mr Atanasio Monserrate of the town and country planning portfolio, Mr Parrikar said he took a decision in the interest of the state and to save Goa from turning into a concrete jungle. In trying to convert Taleigao into C-1 zone, Mr Monserrate was exceeding his limits and I had to clip his wings, Mr Parrikar said. Earlier during the day, Mr Arlekar had alleged that the Congress central leadership was responsible for the present upheaval in the state politics. Mr Arlekar told reporters, If the MLAs do not like the leadership of their leader, they are free to resign at any time. Mr Arlekar said: If the Congress party wants to acquire power, it should do so by contesting the election, democratically, he added. In another late night development, a BJP MLA filed a disqualification petition against an independent MLA and resigned water resource minister, Mr Filipe Neri Rodrigues before the Speaker, Mr Vishwas Satarkar. The petitioner has argued that Mr Rodrigues has violated the condition of an independent MLA under 10th Scheduled of the Constitution. The BJP has also decided to file a petition before the Governor and the High Court to debar those who voluntarily gave the membership of the House from holding the ministerial position or any office of profit till they get re-elected. The party sources said that the petition is being drafted and would be filed tomorrow. The sources said that the BJP lawyers have advised the party that several judgments have been delivered blocking those voluntarily giving up the membership of the House from holding the ministerial positions. COMMENT: Mr Aklekar would love to have his wish of having re-elections so that the BJP can stake their claima pie in the sky wish. I do however agree that once the Members of the Legislative Assembly have resigned, they cannot then come back unless re-elected. A point in law would be that they cannot expected to be appointed to a Ministerial post - simply put they have resigned . Cheers, Gabe. Wimbledon - London England.
[Goanet]The Swastika
Re the Swastika, was the original Hindu emblem, not put in a reverse position in Nazi use? Just curious! Cornel DaCosta (London)
Re: [Goanet]Do Goans deserve alleged most corrupt former Minister Mr Atanasio Monseratte as the new Chief Minister?
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:52:22 -, Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man with a Needle The Navhind Times The very fact that taking away of the town and country planning ministry from Mr Monserrate came with Mr Parrikar's decision to exclude the villages that were included in the PDAs by Mr Monserrate provides some clue to the suddenness of Mr Parrikar's action. Probably with the decision of Mr Monserrate to turn up certain village areas for real estate development the Chief Minister's cup of compromises was full. Can't take any more of it, he seems to have told himself, and decided to pierce a needle into the Big RESPONSE: Monserrate and the others who resigned as MLA's cannot return to the Assembley - in essence Monserrate cannot be made the C.M. at this time of asking. Unfortunately, he acts or ommissions regarding graft and corruption won't now come to light. cheers, Gabe.
Re: [Goanet]Goa government about to collapse; drama begins
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:41:11 +, Nagesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa government about to collapse; drama begins Sunday January 30 2005 00:00 IST A first-time MLA, Monserrate is reported to have interests in money-lending and construction. While relieving him of his Town and Country Planning ministry, Parrikar had cited charges of administrative corruption''. RESPONSE: We shall never know, now whether indeed there was corruption taking place. Could this be the reason for Monserrate withdrawing his support - that fact that he was to be investigated. Just last week he pledged his support to the Govt. until the end of the Assembley's term. I agree with the C.M. the only place whether a majority can be shown is in the Assembley not outside. If a vote of no confidence has to take place then so be it, unless of course Parrikar concedes.!
[Goanet]Catholic and ''non-twice-born'' Hindus
Hi Antonio and Cornell: Your posts on the Goan Catholics raise interesting issues - which ever way one may slice it! Cornell's strong condemnation of Goans showing off their caste may really reflect UK Goans (and other UK-Indians) just 'showing off' (in Goa). In UK, they cannot show off their Imperial pounds and their Ingresi. But, they 'still show off' (presumably their caste) till they meet Cornell. :=)) Hope this peculiarity is drawn when you post your article about Goan caste distinctions in the UK. So to begin with, do Goans from UK behave like the English-babu ani Vodlo Badkar or do they behave like Samko Goenkars? As you write your essay (which I am most interested), I hope you draw the distinction of past caste attitudes, which though despicable was a SURROGATE for education, affluence, culture, civility etc. Today unfortunately caste is used as a SUBSTITUTE for the above. As was very well put, when one does not have anything to flaunt, one shows off their caste (or their British passport). In all seriousness please connect me to some plain fun-loving, down-to-earth, unassuming Goans, residing in UK. Especially those that left Goa in the 1920s to 1950s! Y'know, I'm just a beer drinking, Feni loving Goenkar and prefer either of them to scotch! OK! Gabe Menezes is an exception! :=)) The above may be a bit of stretch. But it's not far from the generalizations you make about caste attitudes among today's Goans. Regards Cornel: To the effect Many Goans I've met (presumably in England) show off their caste (ad nauseaum) Antonio Menezes: ''non twice-born'' to describe this overwhelming majority of social class before their conversion to Christianity.
[Goanet]11 Questions about Gold with Banco Nacional Utramarino
Dr. Jose, thanks for getting the attention of all to the subject, in your very special inimmitable style. In my congratulatory message a week after P. Chidambaran took office as Finance Minister, I had touched upon this 40 years plus subject, and suprisingly the matter seems to be handled well so far atleast - by both the Indian Govt. and the Portuguese. Re: the choice of words, you and I know it well that (E)Inglish is a very funny language (specially for the Indians). Will forward your set of questions to all concerned in the Ministry of Finance. As usual, I do not anticipating anyone responding back! Hindustani istyle? I assume you have also copied your remarks to P. Chidambaram. If not, you can at http://www.finmin.nic.in/feedback/index.html Good wishes. AlmeidaG(ji) www.goa-world.com From: Gaspar AlmeidaGoa's Pride, www.goa-world.com Finance Minister, P Chidambaram said, When they bring these ornaments here, they don't have to pay customs duty. It will be very unfair of me to ask them to pay customs duty on their own ornaments, which were taken away forcibly to Portugal. Dear Gaspar, Thanks for that post. The above news item, I assume, refers to the gold held in safe-deposits and as collateral - at the Banco Nacional Ultramarino in Goa - then transfered to BNU- Lisbonlater Caixa Geral de Depósitos. I am struck by Mr. Chidabaram's choice of the words taken away forcibly to Portugal Is this a fair statement, I ask. Here are a few questions that I pose. Once again, I ask only because I do know the answers: 1. What was the gold doing in Banco Ultramarino, in Goa in the first place. 2. Did the Portuguese come into the homes of Goans and confiscate this gold? 3. Was the gold stored by clients at BNU in safe deposit ? 4. Was the gold used as collateral for LOANS obtained by Goans and Maharashtrians? 5. Have the safe deposit fees - until 1961 - ever been paid ? or have they been deducted? 6. Have the LOANS ever been paid back by the Goans Maharashtrians who borrowed the monies? 7. Has BNU claimed /collected / deducted any interest on the unpaid Loans? 8. What was BNU expected to do - with the gold - at the time of the 1961 invasion? Leave it? 9. WHO would be held responsible for the gold - had it been looted in the aftermath of 1961? 10. Was there any looting in Panjim on the days Dec 19 - 21, 1961? 11. What would the State Bank of India do in a similar situation - with SAFE DEPOSITS - in one of their branches (say in Fiji or in Port Blair) - if there was a chance that the Bank Officials had to leave town in a hurry? Maybe we should think about the choice of our words. What u say Mr. P Chidambaram? But thenyou are just a politician. good wishes jc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: Bad news for anti-Iraqis and anti-Americans
On Sunday the sun will rise on another imperialistic, hegemonic effort by the US and its Iraqi puppets. I can't wait for the nightmare to end for the innocent Iraqis who have been caught between a former brutal dictator and a colonial superpower stealing its oil and other resources under the guise of freedom and democracy. The illegal American war has brought and fostered terrorism in Iraq causing innocent Iraqis to suffer. May all the foreigners leave. Regards, George --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote of the day: On Sunday, the sun will rise on the land of Mesopotamia. I can't wait, the dream is becoming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it. -Mohammed (www.IraqTheModel.Blogspot.com)
[Goanet]RE: news from Mess - o - potamia
From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote of the day: On Sunday, the sun will rise on the land of Mesopotamia. I can't wait, the dream is becoming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it. Mohammed (www.IraqTheModel.Blogspot.com) = BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents threatened a bloodbath on Sunday when Iraqis go to the polls in an election intended to unite the country and quell violence but which could instead foment sectarian strife. Iraq was under security lockdown for Iraq's first multi-party elections in nearly half a century. Borders were sealed, airports closed and only official vehicles allowed on the streets after heavy bloodshed on the eve of voting, including a bold rocket strike that killed two Americans at the U.S. embassy compound in Baghdad's Green Zone. Insurgent groups, including a jihadist faction led by al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, have vowed to bomb infidel polling stations and kill anyone who dares to vote. For the last time, we warn that (Sunday) will be bloody for the Christians and Jews and their mercenaries and whoever takes part in the (election) game of America and Allawi, Zarqawi's faction said in a statement posted on an Islamist Web site. === jc comment Blogs aside, Let us pray that this election proceeds and concludes without any untoward incident. jc _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]TGF's personae of the year 2004 - now on Colaco.net
Dear all, We are happy to introduce our updated website. Please read TGF's Goan personae of 2004 your reaction is welcome COMING SOON : the ghuspott in Ribandar ! Stay tuned jc
