Re: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR

2006-06-03 Thread Mario Goveia

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--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mario
 You must be reading Fox News. Good luck to you.
 
Mario responds:

You are obviously reading The Guardian and the BBC,
which is why you have no clue that it was the UN that
dropped the ball in Timor Leste :-))


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Re: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR

2006-06-02 Thread cornel


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You must be reading Fox News. Good luck to you.
Cornel
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--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Martinho
I see no ambiguity or bias in the posts relating to
Timor on Goanet. The consensus seems to be that 
Australia is well tucked into its affairs because 
of oil in the region. Full stop.



Mario observes:



Consensus?  What consensus?



The UN, not Australia, previously had full charge of
Timor Leste, and could have continued with a
peacekeeping presence there until stability had been
achieved, so this facile claim about Australia
intervening simply because of oil seems farfetched if
not flat out false.





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RE: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR

2006-06-02 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias

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Mario, 

It is good that Australia is helping with the peace keeping force in Timor
Leste. However, Australia is not doing a favour since what they are doing is
monetarily insignificant compared to the billions of dollars in oil and gas
that they have been stealing from East Timor for decades now and continue to
do so!!!

Refs:
http://www.etan.org/issues/tsea/plainfact.htm
http://www.timorseajustice.org/
http://www.apheda.org.au/campaigns/east_timor_gas/news/1133485503_27547.html
http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2006/012006/scheiner.html

The above documents describe how a huge and wealthy country like Australia
is bullying and stealing the poorest and youngest country in Asia. It is
shocking and people should be aware of the issues. Hardly anyone knows about
this. East Timor is being bullied and the International Community is not
doing anything about it. East Timor was forced to accept half when they
should have had it all, and in some cases, East Timor is still not getting
any revenue from oil and gas which can be found in 100% of her own
territorial waters (Timor Gap). All this because the UN or International Law
could not do anything in the short time to force Australia to stop the
bullying and the stealing. This is shameful on the part of Australia.
Disgusting really. After all, this is the poorest and the youngest country
in Asia being bullied by the giant and wealthy Australia.

What is also deplorable is the open criticism of the democratically elected
East Timor Government by the Australian PM and by East Timor's First Lady
(Xanana Gusmao's wife) who is also an Australian citizen. In my opinion,
foreign governments should not criticise other legitimate and democratically
elected governments, especially when there is a clear dispute in place. It
is obvious that Australia would benefit even more if East Timor is proven to
be unable to govern herself.  

For this reason, there are indeed rumours that the rebels have been trained
and are receiving support from Australia. As you must know, the leader of
the rebels, Major Alfredo Reinado, has been trained in Australia and has
lived in Australia for many years. 

It is important that the international community is aware of the issues in
East Timor. After all, they share a common history with Goa and East Timor
(as well as Macau) was under the jurisdiction of the Goan Courts Tribunal
da Relacao de Goa before 1961.

Best regards
Paulo Colaco Dias.


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Subject: Re: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR 
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Martinho
 I see no ambiguity or bias in the posts relating to
 Timor on Goanet. The consensus seems to be that 
 Australia is well tucked into its affairs because 
 of oil in the region. Full stop.
 
Mario observes:

Consensus?  What consensus?

The UN, not Australia, previously had full charge of
Timor Leste, and could have continued with a
peacekeeping presence there until stability had been
achieved, so this facile claim about Australia
intervening simply because of oil seems farfetched if
not flat out false.



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Re: [Goanet] PREACHING AT TIMOR

2006-06-02 Thread Mario Goveia

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--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Martinho
 I see no ambiguity or bias in the posts relating to
 Timor on Goanet. The consensus seems to be that 
 Australia is well tucked into its affairs because 
 of oil in the region. Full stop.
 
Mario observes:

Consensus?  What consensus?

The UN, not Australia, previously had full charge of
Timor Leste, and could have continued with a
peacekeeping presence there until stability had been
achieved, so this facile claim about Australia
intervening simply because of oil seems farfetched if
not flat out false.



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