[Goanet-News] Pacheco falsely implicated in woman death case: Monteiro (Indian Express)
Pacheco falsely implicated in woman death case: Monteiro Posted: Fri Jun 11 2010, 16:19 hrs Panaji: Lyndon Monteiro, Officer on Special Duty (OSD) to Fransisco Pacheco, has said that the former Goa minister is being falsely implicated in the death case of his close female friend as he had demanded investigation into the involvement of a senior politician’s son in the police-drug peddler nexus case. “It is pertinent to note that recently Fransisco Pacheco, in his capacity as tourism minister, had written a letter to Chief Minister about rampant use of drugs in Goa, the police and political nexus with the drug dealers and its affect on tourism,” the petition filed by Monteiro before the High Court reads. The OSD, a close aide of Pacheco, in his anticipatory bail plea, has said that the minister had also called upon the Chief Minister to probe the involvement of the son of a influential politician in the said drug racket. “The same was not liked by the other cabinet colleagues who are trying to cover up and save the said politician’s son as is also evident from the recent statements made by Chief Minister himself,” the petition said. Monteiro said “the death of Nadia Torrado is therefore being used as an issue to nail the minister and falsely implicate him, who has since resigned and has even been replaced by a new person.” The 28-year-old woman’s death, allegedly by consuming poison on May 30, has brewed trouble for Pacheco and Monteiro, who are currently on the run. “As the minister is not traceable, applicant (Monteiro) who was the Officer on Special Duty and who has been acting in his official capacity is being harassed by falsely accusing him of destroying evidence and implicating him in the alleged crime,” the petition reads. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Pacheco-falsely-implicated-in-woman-death-case--Monteiro/632603
[Goanet-News] NEWS: The Goa football model... an example in India (PTI)
AIFF director gives thumbs-up to Goa football age group meets PTI, Jun 10, 2010, 04.00pm IST KOLKATA: The Goa football model, which stresses on age group meets in the state, can be an example for others to follow, Indian under-19 coach and AIFF technical director Colin Toal said. In the city to spot talents from the ongoing National Junior Football Championship for Dr BC Roy Trophy, Toal on Thursday said, In Goa, there are different age group tournaments not only for the clubs, but also among the villages. They are doing a good job. The GFA model can serve as a very good example as it follows a pyramidal structure with the junior, youth and village league at the base and the professional league at the top, he said congratulating the Goa Football Association for implementing a 'well structured' youth development programme. Toal is in the city with four spotters who are looking for talent for the Indian under-19 squad. Toal said the purpose of youth development is defeated if the state associations do not participate in the process. The under-14, 16 and 19 age group tournaments should form the core of the calendar of programmes of every state association, Toal said. The programme of the state associations form the base of development from which we can have a strong I-League and good national team, he said urging the need to have a strong base if one wishes to see Indian football prospering. Toal will be picking 75 boys initially for a selection-cum-coaching camp in July. The group will be pruned to a 30-member group which will form the base of the Indian team that will pay the Asian championship qualifiers. Asked about the proposed junior team that will play in the I-League, Toal said the team is likely to be picked from the group of boys who played for Indian under-19 in the previous season. They are no longer under my charge, they will be looked after by the national coach, he said. Speaking about the 2011 Asian Cup, the Englishman said, The AFC (Asian Football Confederation) stressed on the fact that while it is a good thing that India will be playing the prestigious meet after a long gap, the country needs to strengthen the I-League. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/top-stories/AIFF-director-gives-thumbs-up-to-Goa-football-age-group-meets-/articleshow/6032627.cms
[Goanet-News] NEWS: Cops raid missing Goa ex-minister Mickky Pacheco's residence (NDTV)
Cops raid missing Goa ex-minister Mickky Pacheco's residence NDTV Correspondent, Updated: June 11, 2010 19:51 IST, Panaji There was high drama and tension at Betalbatim village, constituency of Mickky Pacheco as the police arrived to begin its search at the residence of the former Goa Tourism Minister - now, the prime accused in the mysterious death of his girlfriend Nadia Torrado. A computer hard disk and documents were seized, but there is still no trace of Pacheco who has been missing for a week now. His supporters claim the NCP leader is being targeted by the state Home Minister Ravi Naik. Pacheco, they say will stay in hiding unless a CBI inquiry is launched. He is on this soil. Right here with the people. He is not hiding behind the law. But the crime branch is a missionary of the government. We want the CBI to inquire, said Godfrey Rodrigues, Pacheco's associate. The police's failure to find Pacheco is becoming a huge embarrassment for the government, which is something the Chief Minister chooses not to admit. It is a matter of investigation. This incident is not affecting my government, said Digambar Kamat, Goa Chief Minister. The political atmosphere in Goa is often so acrimonious, that every time a high profile leader is charged with a serious crime, invariably his political rivals are accused of vendetta and of using the police. With this case, this notorious reputation has only been strengthened.
[Goanet] Pope Pleads for Forgiveness Over Abuse Scandal
Pope Pleads for Forgiveness Over Abuse Scandal By RACHEL DONADIO VATICAN CITY — Addressing the sex abuse crisis for the first time from the seat of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI begged forgiveness on Friday, saying the church would do “everything possible” to prevent priests from abusing children. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/12/world/europe/12pope.html?ref=global-home
Re: [Goanet] not just another day ...
Dear Eddie, That you also subscribe to the view about foreigners is encouraging. Standing up for the truth is my duty. Taking the villages of Socorro and Ucasaim in Bardez, one can see the restoration work of the old houses undertaken by foreigners. Some of them have beautifully assimilated themselves into the village culture, but some others have kept aloof. But the same happens with Delhiwallas, Mumbaiwallahs, Marwadis, Malyalees, Telegus and Gujaratis. For that matter we could see that happening with Goans in Bombay of the past. All that the Government needs to be alert when it comes to foreigners is about their drug links, drug parties and child abuse. It is the areas like Morjim, Anjuna, Chapora, Arambol that the government must be concerned about. Here the Russians and the Israelis have so to say established their own colonies and local governments. That cannot be accepted at any cost. It is the Delhi and Mumbai real estate wallahs and politicians that have a cancerous mentality which has destroyed the local culture and environment in every part of this country they have stepped into. The Manipuiris did a fabulous job by regaining the economic controls from the marwadis in the seventies and eighties. Hope Goans will open their eyes to invest their time and energies in the right places. -Soter
[Goanet] Pacheco falsely implicated in woman death case:
Ref: Message-ID: aanlktikxtneudpvuyza0ykopw10jv-dkhicxbujcr...@mail.gmail.com *Pacheco falsely implicated in woman death case: says Monteiro* Monteiro bab PAP NA TEKA BHIRANT NA, NA ZALEAR TO KITEAK LIPLO? Zana mure bab tani tanchea Dudvamche forsar chodd nett dakoilo ani atam tachem Map Boron oth'lem... Oxem uloun Tuvuim bagak assa dista.. Tachem Chukimchem farikponn bhoguni re taka.. Regards Peter Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy MineralResources cheaply?
Comments: Dear Mr. Kakodkar, Sir, This master piece of yours, I read a couple of times over and I must say that you have hit the nail on the very important head and accurately too. As far as Nandkumar Kamats and Oscars of Goa are concerned, all I want to do is to remind them of the word 'Loyola', as a teacher, said to Francis Xavier, the student, in the latter's quest for worldliness. WHAT WILL IT BENEFIT YOU TO GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSE YOUR SOUL ??? In the same manner, I have always been posing this big question to our Goan heroes above and/or otherwise. 'WHAT WILL IT BENEFIT YOU TO GAIN THE MOST DAZZLING TITLES AND ACCOLADES WHEN YOU HAVE LOST YOUR DEAR DEAR GOA??? Thank you Mr. Rajendra Kakodkar for giving me the opportunity to say what I have said. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: rajendra kakodkar rskakod...@yahoo.co.in To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: nandka...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy MineralResources cheaply? Nandkumar through his writing has expressed concern against environmental, cultural and social wrong doings in Goa. He has worked for tribals, deprived and needy. He was student leader and continues to be a leader amongst thinkers. His scientific mind is appreciated and admired by many including me. But every one has likings, priorties, constraints and weakness. When Digamber became chief minister, Nandkumar praised him. Perhaps that has constrained Nandkumar not to speak against mining accesses for last three years, because Digamber is the only person responsible for them. Digamber sidecasted Charles Correa Regional plan despite GBA’s follow-ups (grossly ineffective efforts). Nandkumar in his felicitation speech at Gomant Vidhya Niketan in Margao expressed that Digamber would solve all problems related to Land sharks in six months. But Digamber dragged the issue for three years and of-late has become even bigger Rule flouter than Babush. I have not come accross Nandkumar uttering a word on this leave alone denouncing Digamber’s actions and inactions. However, after GBA started losing ground and VGG took over the initiative, Nandkumar has started raising Land Shark issues, but without blaming the TCP minister
[Goanet] Today’s Pic: My favourite Mangilar (only next best to Mancurad)
Today’s Pic: My favourite Mangilar (only next best to Mancurad) Available now Rs. 350-400 per doz (good sized as in pics) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4692738462/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4692738154/ These mangoes usually appear (market) late May, whole of June and may be till mid July. I love it. I just bite it and then squeeze So sweet so fleshy I use no knife no plate My first bite always reminds me of my childhood. It reminds me of eating mangoes exactly of the same taste or flavour Except, I didn’t know the name ‘mangilar’ then. My be we call it by another name in XASTTI joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
The singer has murdered the beauty of the song and language too, coz of improper diction and pronounciation of words. Salvador Fernandes On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:29 AM, philip pereira philpereira2...@yahoo.cawrote: Quite interesting, to say the least!! A Goan woman singing Konkani but not with Goan musicians (the bass player and drummer) but with whites although I have no doubt, there are tons of excellent Goan musicians in Toronto!! And, incidentally, since I am a drummer, the white drummer seems quite amateurish. Looks like Goans will always pander to the whites. That's why our beautiful land, Goa, has almost been taken over by the whites!!! I will be copying you a couple of most interesting e-mails I have received showing how Goa has been absolutely decimated by the white influx. Phil. P. --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Frederick Noronha wrote: Aum saiba... via Toronto. [Jacinta Luix is daughter of Jerry/Eva Luis of Toronto, ex Candolim/Dar. Eva is ex Zanzibar.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE2iIkLV06M Thanks to Ivy from NZ for the link.
[Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy Mineral Resources cheaply?
Perhaps with Nachiketas, came a higher-level of introspection. Perception does not come easy to most. Good minds continue ripening with age, and certainly in Goa. So, the best minds in Goa, may only try again and again to see those of failing minds and hearts, see and respond better. Bless all those who are on the ground in Goa and have made it their place to take the hits. Bless Rajendra Kakodkar. Bless Dr. Nandakumar Kamat. Bless all Goans. Nachiketa learned from Yama. May others rise too, and erase their pasts; pray for the ability to perceive, the ability to self-reflect. Or. giddily face their own Yemkond. We need a Garuda Purana 2 for Goa. venantius j pinto Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:14:40 +0530 (IST) From: rajendra kakodkar rskakod...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy Mineral Resources cheaply? (DEL) There is room for excusing Nandkumar for his silence. The arrival of Nachiketas and experience and enjoyment of his initial growth coincided and might have kept Nandkumar occupied. And no one intends to deprive him of that enjoyment and experience. Hopefully he now finds more time for his passion ? good of Goa. And being one of the person at the apex of Goan social cause he is expected to hit the bull?s eye (most nagging issues) and does not stray in less critical areas, which he can leave (or be a guide) for new-comers to try their hands with. While Nandkumar is the substance of the current discussion on Goanet, there are likes of Oscar, who have won many an Oscars from people of Goa for their impeccable love for Goa, but have later ignored the scars that their favourite politicians inflicted on to Goa. Finally, there are limitations as to how far one can stretch his likings, priorties, constraints unless the person has too many weaknesses. Rajendra Kakodkar
Re: [Goanet] Is XXX an Agent of Mine Owners trying to buy Mineral Resources cheaply?
I have no idea what the purpose of the post appended below is. It appears that in it new allegations have been leveled against Nandakumar, along with modest praise of him. I also noticed the gratuitous inclusion of baseless taunts against unrelated individuals, including one against a hypothetical internet cut-and-paste scientist who has not published anything, unlike Nandakumar. However, the pertinent question that was raised by the smear against Nandakumar remains unanswered by this author and the original perpetrator Augusto. Does he deserve to be slandered as an agent of mine owners (and now, Digambar Kamat) just because he posted two articles criticizing Arundhati Roy on Goanet? Cheers, Santosh P.S. I am beginning to realize that one characteristic of political activism is that activists spend at least as much time fighting with each other as for their professed cause. --- On Fri, 6/11/10, rajendra kakodkar rskakod...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Nandkumar through his writing has expressed concern against environmental, cultural and social wrong doings in Goa. He has worked for tribals, deprived and needy. He was student leader and continues to be a leader amongst thinkers. His scientific mind is appreciated and admired by many including me. But every one has likings, priorties, constraints and weakness. When Digamber became chief minister, Nandkumar praised him. Perhaps that has constrained Nandkumar not to speak against mining accesses for last three years, because Digamber is the only person responsible for them. Digamber sidecasted Charles Correa Regional plan despite GBA’s follow-ups (grossly ineffective efforts). Nandkumar in his felicitation speech at Gomant Vidhya Niketan in Margao expressed that Digamber would solve all problems related to Land sharks in six months. But Digamber dragged the issue for three years and of-late has become even bigger Rule flouter than Babush. I have not come accross Nandkumar uttering a word on this leave alone denouncing Digamber’s actions and inactions. However, after GBA started losing ground and VGG took over the initiative, Nandkumar has started raising Land Shark issues, but without blaming the TCP minister.
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello: we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide
On 11 June 2010 12:31, Eddie Fernandes eddie.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Headline: Is Nadia's unfortunate suicide a reflection of what society in Goa is fast turning into? By: Dr Oscar Rebello Source: Herald. 11 June 2010 Excerpts: Goa is presently witness to the latest blockbuster running houseful in our little state: 'The mysterious suicide of Nadia Torrado' . As suggested by Celina Pereira of New York in a touching post on Goanet, we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide. Full text, 1098 words, at http://oheraldo.in/newscategory/Opinions/14 REPLY: I have read the article by Dr. Oscar Rebello and am wondering why he didn't post it on Goanet - since it seems, he is an avid reader here. May be, just may be - the responses are more than he can take? There are some questions I would like to ask of the good Doctor. O.C. *The Curious Case of Nadia Torrado* Is Nadia’s unfortunate suicide a reflection of what society in Goa is fast turning into, asks *Dr OSCAR REBELLO* Goa is presently witness to the latest blockbuster running houseful in our little state: ‘The mysterious suicide of Nadia Torrado’. Admit it, all of us are riveted by the nuggets of intrigue, deception, histrionics, tears and suspense flung at us by the participants in this morbid soap opera. Whatever the conjectures and innuendo, we can be certain of four salient, indisputable facts: 1. Nadia Torrado was desperate enough to commit suicide. The ‘accidental’ ingestion of Ratol paste theory has no medical basis whatsoever. You can’t die so dramatically if you simply brush your teeth with Ratol paste... Question: Now the good doctor has ascertained that this was a suicide, he has already passed judgment. Case closed the Police should go home and have a good drink up and the NGO activists should put sack cloth over their heads and mourn. O.C.:- And this last indisputable fact: 4. A young girl; desperate, wretched and confused with life’s choices she made, took her own life. Suicide is a horrible, horrible tragedy. It isn’t and can never be a synonym for a media circus, character assassination or petty gossip. It is an insurmountable tragedy for the victim and certainly for the family she leaves behind. The first three facts will be handled by the courts, the activists, the media and the investigating authorities (if politicians don’t wade in to interfere). As a society, our complete focus must be on the last fact: Is Nadia’s unfortunate suicide a reflection of what our society in Goa is fast turning into? REPLY: There are two sides to every story; I can sympathise with a young girl making a bad choice - a cry for help - if indeed she took Ratol, besides a downer drug. Wherein does the good Doc arrive at a conclusion, which the Police are trying to figure out? Perhaps the Police should ask for the good Doc's assistance in this, he seems to be more than an expert on the subject. O.C.:- A silly argument with a parent, sibling or friend, and pronto, the youngster swallows a fistful of tablets, or Dettol, or whatever (s)he can lay his or her hands on, and is rushed into the Emergency Room. Most poisons can be reasonably well handled. The availability of modern antidotes and dialysis facilities means we can save most lives, if the patient is brought in early. The big problem is when there is a delay in seeking medical attention, owing to social stigma or, worse, from the fear of the bizarre law that makes attempting suicide a crime. But by far the deadliest and surest killer poison is Ratol paste. Once ingested and absorbed, the fatality rate is near 100 per cent, even with the best facilities that can run up a bill of over Rs40 lakh. It is such a deceptive poison because the patient usually seems well for the first 24 to 48 hours, but once the jaundice sets in, it mostly results in sure death within seven agonising days. QUESTION: To the good Doc, since I am not a clincian and from what he wrote, it is obvious he has more than enough knowledge on this, Does he believe that a whole tube or Ratol was consumed? The data available, suggests, if this was the case she would have been gone within 36 hours! May be our resident Doc from the Bahamas could give us his his opinion on the vast knowledge he has acquired, both as a physician and as a Law Grad. The poor girl lasted for more than a forthnight...okay she must have had her stomach pumped out and given some mixtures to contain the effects...all this after 6 hours...first being taken to Hospicio and then where the action began at Apollo in Margao. The ex-Minister has gone on record, to state that he did everything according to Medical advice. The Court statements by the Police state her removal from Apollo was against their advice? PS: One thing that does not make sense is the charge of culpable homicide on Mickky Co. Why would a man who tried to bump off his girlfriend spend over Rs45 lakh, doing everything possible to save her life?
[Goanet] Invitation for Goa Revolution Day 5.30 pm 18 June 2010, Benurdem, Balli, Quepem
Goa Federation of Mines Affected People (GOAMAP) invites to Public function to mark Goa Revolution Day on coming Friday, 18 June 2010 near Primary School, Benurdem, Balli, Quepem at 5.30m to 7.30 pm. The program is fixed at this time to facilitate toiling tribal people who work the whole day and return to village around this time. The significance of the day remains in valiant defiance of Portuguese Colonial rule in Goa by Ram Manohar Lohia on 18 June 1946 in Margao that sparked off wide spread revolt against Colonial ruler. Our current situation too demands tremendous defiance as the current rulers in collusion with various vested interests all over the globe has been promoting predatory colonial model of development that includes scuttling of self-rule at grass roots levels, Mining - legal as well as illegal - usury of income by private parties, Special Economic Zones (SEZs), Airport at Mopa, Golf tourism in Tiracol, Blockade of traditional access of tribal people to forest areas, historical treachery and loot of lands ownership titles from Goa's tribal population, expansion of highways, destruction of Goa's ecology for the sake of Cricket Stadium, enormous threats to water sources, functional drug mafia, and location of various real estate projects in non-transparent and anti-democratic manner, destruction of agriculture are some of the glaring examples in this regard. Please come and also get your friends. Come prepared to share your ideas. Together we can initiate small steps towards change for better Goa. Goa Revolution Day is just so fit for this! In Solidarity, Sebastian Rodrigues _ Bollywood This Decade http://entertainment.in.msn.com/bollywoodthisdecade/
[Goanet] Hypocrisy for Publicity
The debate around 'Ratol' and why it should be banned just because it was consumed by Nadia seems to be more important and glamorous than the issue of suicides by thousands of farmers in this country after consuming pesticide. Why is there no demand to ban pesticides? Alcohol is another silent killer in 'Amchem Goa'. The disease of alcoholism has resulted in a large number of young widows in Goa's villages. Besides this hundreds of women and children in Goa have to bear the daily torture from an alcoholic for years together. Why is there no outcry to ban alcohol in Goa? Then we have the potential threat from leakage of posionous gases and chemicals at Goa's industrial sites. Why is there no public frenzy generated around this issue? The public debate around 'Ratol' is more deadly than the effects of the posion because it could give ideas for those with suicidal tendencies to try out this lethal chemical. Why all this hypocrisy for publicity? -Soter D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Amkam khorench husko kai Konknnicho ?
Sorgest Pri Antonio Pereiran 'typewriter'-ak Konknnintlean 'boddboddem' oxem borovchem mhunn tannem suchnna kel'li. 'Typewriter'-ak boddboddem mhonnchem bhi kharan dil'lem. 'Typewriter' bhouch tepe-tepe-tepe korun boddboddta. Atam sogllem kompuittorar avaz nastona 'typing' zata. Mhaka dista ani hanvem koinsoruch vachunk nam 'typewriter'-ak boddboddem oxem boroilolem. Novim Konknni utrancho upeog soroll korcho. Lino Dourado From: Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com To: GoaNet fred goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 3:26:01 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Amkam khorench husko kai Konknnicho ? Ixttamno, Goirsomoz zauncho nhoi mhunn porthun sangtam; mhaka zannkarponnacho kosloch odhikar na. Hanv kitem boroitam tem mhojem kirkoll MOT; tumkam pottlem zalear ghevpachem, na zalear soddpachem ani tatunt chuk asa ti dakhoilear mhojer to upkar thartolo karonn mhaka xikonk mellttolem. Punn Faustbaban ji pod'dot vaporlea ti mhaka tori vichitr dista. Eka novea utracho Inglix orth koll'llo mhunn tem utor vaprunk mellttolem mhunn na; tacho onteasvor (ending), gender, declension / conjugation koll'llea uprantuch tacho vapor korunk zata ani tednanch korcho. Na zalear gholl zaum-ieta . Eka Inglix utrak sabar orth asum-ietat; tantuntlo khoincho tea novea utrak lagta ani khoinche lagonant tem khobor (got'tu) naslear hanxem korun ghevpachi palli yeum-ieta. (Ttikett ektthaim korunk gel'lom mhonnlolea porim). Hachekhatir ek upay asa; Mongllurkaranche, oslim utram aspavtole, lekh GULAB vo GOAN REVIEW bi Goykaranchea masikamni uzvaddaun tea utranche orth (zaum Inglix, zaum Goyche, zaum donui) konsamni dium-ietat. Avoddle zalear Goykar borovpeank te vaprunk sompem zatolem. Torui ek oddchonn urtach; kitle-i tras ghetle zalear kaim utranche uchchar dakhounk zaunchem na. Ani ek dhvoninixtth (phonetic) lipi vaporlea xivay haka poryay na. Itlem sangun, atam Faustbaban mukhar haddlolea utrancher mhojem mhonn'nnem.
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
Jose, I agree with your comments. The singer lost the originality of the song. Does she honestly think she can sing 'Hanv saiba poltodde vetam'? Lino Dourado From: jose fernandes konk...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 8:18:18 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto! The singer has murdered the beauty of the song and language too, coz of improper diction and pronounciation of words. Salvador Fernandes On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:29 AM, philip pereira philpereira2...@yahoo.cawrote: Quite interesting, to say the least!! A Goan woman singing Konkani but not with Goan musicians (the bass player and drummer) but with whites although I have no doubt, there are tons of excellent Goan musicians in Toronto!! And, incidentally, since I am a drummer, the white drummer seems quite amateurish. Looks like Goans will always pander to the whites. That's why our beautiful land, Goa, has almost been taken over by the whites!!! I will be copying you a couple of most interesting e-mails I have received showing how Goa has been absolutely decimated by the white influx. Phil. P. --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Frederick Noronha wrote: Aum saiba... via Toronto. [Jacinta Luix is daughter of Jerry/Eva Luis of Toronto, ex Candolim/Dar. Eva is ex Zanzibar.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE2iIkLV06M Thanks to Ivy from NZ for the link.
[Goanet] Bannkocho
When I ate and drink too much (with inflated belly) my mother often called me ‘Bannkocho’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4682257645/ The one with bigger belly may also be called as ‘bannkocho’ During ‘raponn’ time, plenty of such fish seen on the shore as no one eats such fish. However, I do remember some Kunnbi Gauddi community collecting/eating the same. Only recently, I heard some saying this fish is poisonous one and that two UP lads died recently eating the same in Goa. This fish inflates it belly like a balloon , by upto twice of it size and hence bannkocho Pronounce – Bann as in arrow (Bow and arrow) or Bann-ale (Benaulim) and kocho as in ‘Mocho’ (Shoe) Replace M with K. Extra: Some kunnbi community even eat rats. e.g. If Coconut plucker (Paddekar) catches a rat dead or alive, the landlord rewarded him with a extra coconut of his choice plus ’keep the rat’ Believe me or not, I too ate ‘kol-undrachi xacuti’ along with my friends. We were told it was ‘Kansovachi Xacuti’. It was delicious. We ate it not in a restaurant but in own house. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Whodunit?
Girl is taken to Hospicio, later shifted to Apollo Margao. Admits taking an entire tube of Ratol and some anxiety drugs. Girl later shifted to Hospital in Thane; makes a statement stating she mistook Ratol for toothpaste. Later Girl shifted to Hospital in Chenai and dies there approx 15 days from inception of taking Ratol. Girls family and main accused stand firmly behind the statement that it was accidental death. NGO's suspect foul play and involve Police. The Police agree that there is a case to be probed and the Judge concurs with them. Former Doctor activist writes a piece in a local Newspaper stating that it is a suicide - he knows the traits having had experience in these matters. So whodunit? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
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To goa...@lists.goanet.com, Sirs, Please publish the following text on goa...@lists. Thanks for your cooperation Felix Pinto TIATRO DUKH Folks Jr Menezes a Toronto based veteran is all set to stage his show Dukh on 19th June, Goans and Mangloreans alike should attend and watch the short fellow delivers comedy in Dukh, Soon Tickets will be sold out and to avoid last minute disappointment secure you reserve or unreserve tickets to watch the showman from New Jersey acclaimed and Toronto famous Raymond alias Jr. Menezes. According to Jr. Menezes camp that there are some new faces that have been brought in to fill the vacuum created by rebel artists which I feel not a positive sign for the future. I request all Toronto based artists to come to an understanding solving issues at a very professional level and to support to one another with open mind same time my request goes to the Directors to be more humble than to show muscles “I am the greatest which does not work now a days, it may work in Goa but not in Toronto Certainly this Tiatro will get a house full, I hope so, but I understand that on that day Tegsa is having their Anniversary dance., so the 50+ will attend the dance even people who have bought tickets earlier have returned, so it is real Dukh to Jr. Menezez if his Tiatro does not get sell out. Tiatro organizers should coordinate with the Organizations instead having last minute head on collisions. Tegsa dance timing clashes with that of Dukh and the rest I leave it to the readers to guess, because we are Ami Goenkar….Ami Goenkar and to Jr. Menezes stop writing more Tiatro if you dont get the crowd. TEGSA ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION Saturday, June 19, 2010 T at 12.30 p.m. Believe in Unity one team Felix Pinto Toronto
[Goanet] The many faces of GOANS
The many letters “Leave Nadias’s family alone” and news reports of Micky’s supporters holding meetings of solidarity, shows how Goans are literate but lack knowledge in education and civilisation. Secondly, comments by netters also elucidate that some like to show off their learning but expose their ignorance to the learned. We have lived as a civilised society, although most of Goa now seems uncivilised. As a civilised society we have responsibilities toward our families and others. Our responsibilities towards our family include advising our children, brothers and sisters not to keep company of uneducated and uncivilised people as that would mean inviting trouble for them as well as the family someday. As parents, we also need to educate our children about the good and bad things in life; and whenever any issue is in the news we need to advise them on it too, and that includes ‘Ratol’ also. But the main essence of educating your children is by leading through example. In a civilised society, if someone is a victim of a physical assault or grave injustice it is the duty of every citizen to bring it to the notice of the authorities. Let me ask the writers of these letters some questions. If Nadia was not assaulted (post-mortem reports clearly indicate), would she have consumed Ratol? If the writers had a daughter or sister who died in these same circumstances, especially when the presumed accused carries money power and clout, would he/she not want someone to help him to do justice to the deceased? Would he/she have burnt all the belongings of his/her deceased even before the funeral? Destroying evidence is a criminal act and clearly indicates efforts to obliterate the proof. Undisclosed sources have stated that Nadia was first brought to Hospicio and bruises were observed, and were told it would have to be registered as a medico-legal case. From there she was taken to Apollo hospital; and being a private hospital readily admitted. In all probabilities only when the senior doctor had seen the case it must have been informed that a medico-legal case will have to be registered. From there she was shifted to Mumbai, that too a suburb hospital when there were better equipped hospitals in central Mumbai. A dying declaration was staged. But the ignoramus did not know that there are prerequisites for a dying declaration to be valid. And a blatant lie in the declaration of mistaking Ratol for toothpaste has thrown the dying declaration into the dustbin. Qualified allopathic doctors know their responsibilities when should a medico-legal case be registered, not only because they have a subject in their curriculum but also because they have to work as Casualty Medical Officer where many medico-legal cases are their full responsibility, both in the treatment as well as in the Court of Law. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ See the news as it happens on MSN videos http://video.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Scenery
Scenery A river view through campal park http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4689891844/sizes/l/ Red hot sunset http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4682887748/sizes/l/ Farmers at work http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4690613568/sizes/l/ with a well http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4689978303/sizes/l/ at dawn at river bank / jetty with sky, clouds, ferry boat etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4691202668/sizes/l/ another with Casino boats etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4691201858/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Bannkocho
On 12 June 2010 08:51, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: When I ate and drink too much (with inflated belly) my mother often called me ‘Bannkocho’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4682257645/ The one with bigger belly may also be called as ‘bannkocho’ During ‘raponn’ time, plenty of such fish seen on the shore as no one eats such fish. However, I do remember some Kunnbi Gauddi community collecting/eating the same. Only recently, I heard some saying this fish is poisonous one and that two UP lads died recently eating the same in Goa. This fish inflates it belly like a balloon , by upto twice of it size and hence bannkocho Pronounce – Bann as in arrow (Bow and arrow) or Bann-ale (Benaulim) and kocho as in ‘Mocho’ (Shoe) Replace M with K. RESPONSE: Puffer fish, deadly but a rare delicacy for the Japanese called Fugu; please read following:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Spicy Goan sausage has global potential ??
As an expatriate, living in the environs of Washington DC in the USA, I often shopped at Hispanic (descendants of Spanish in the Americas) stores, where foods that I was familiar with from my Goan upbringing, could be found. This is where I would buy Cotmir, shredded fresh coconut, green chillies etc. etc. At the meat counter, I would find a variety of sausages named Chorico or Linguico, which evoked memories of our Chorisao. They looked exactly like the Chorisao one finds vendors selling at the Friday Mapusa market. The Chorico and Linguico came from different South and Central American countries and so there was Mexican Chourico, Salvadorean Chorico, Honduran Chorico, Brazilian Chorico etc. I chose a half pound of Brazilian Chorico and a half pound of Salvadorean Chorico, hoping that they would approximate in taste what we find in Goa. No such luck. In comparison to our Goan Choricao these sausages were insipid. I tried doctoring them with lots of chillie paste and vinegar to give it some punch. Still no luck. While they obviously appealed to Brazilian and Salvadorean palates, there is nothing in my mind that compares even remotely to theGoan choricao. Even in Goa, the Choricao varies in taste according to the person who makes them.. I swear by the Choricao made by my late mother. I used to help her fill the links and dry them in the sun. She always used lean cuts of Pork, with just enough Fat to give it taste without overwhelming our arteries with Fat. Oh the memories ! Goans in the diaspora continue to crave Choricao. In the USA and Canada some intrepid individuals make Choricao which comes close to the taste that I remember of my late mother's Choricao. The ingredients - Western Pork, Chillies and Vinegar - will never replicate what is available in Goa. But it comes a close second. Who can complain ? Give me fried Choricao, eggs -sunnyside up- and Goencho pau for breakfast any day, but please dont tell my cardiologist.
Re: [Goanet] not just another day ...
Before you guys get carried away by your own rhetoric... let me remind you of a few other facts. If the (largely) tourism-lured foreigners had not come into Goa in the first place, bought so many houses, and inflated costs hugely in the local market, perhaps people like myself (who spent a lifetime living and working in in Goa) would have been able to afford and buy and maintain a house ourselves. No? Even if Goa has among the largest per capita rates of outmigration in the world (cf. Robert S Newman), there are still enough back home needing a roof over their heads. Let me make this clear: I'm not a xenophobe opposed to foreigners buying homes and properties in Goa. But if we're going to give them credit for maintaining homes here, then we need to also say that they (together with expat Indians, affluent locals and the rich from India's big cities) are responsible for huge speculation and inflation in the real estate market. To this, we have to add the local villians of the piece, the politicians and town planners back in Goa who know how to create an artificial scarcity and push up land rates through laws like the 1974 Town and Country Planning Act, the current new plans being hotly debated whether 2011 or 2021 and what not. In addition, if Goan expats can buy land and property all over the world -- in a globalised, capitalist, big-fish-eat-little-fish world order -- then it's only fair for others to be entitled to buy land here. As far as the action against foreign owners of properties here, things can be very complicated, and often there's far more than meets the eye (or gets reported in the screaming headlines). Our famed Mickky Pacheco case is reminding us of this once over again; it's very difficult not to notice the script between the lines. It is obviously unfair for politicians to change the laws after foreigners have made their property-buying decisions. And yet, in the year that marks the 500th anniversary of 1510, we need to remind ourselves that colonialism of various hues and colours can never be localised, regardless of how high the local collaboration is sought to be pegged at. Just a few thoughts, deliberately devil's advocatish in clothing. FN Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490 On 12 June 2010 00:06, Eddie Fernandes eddie.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: soter Joao Barros-Pereira has rightly observed that old Goan houses have been maintained by foreigners... It is sad that several Goans support the hounding of foreigners by the Goa government over land purchases... == Response: Bravo Joao Barros-Pereira and Soter for speaking out! It is also perplexing that there are some overseas Goans, like the normally rational George Pinto who are xenophobic regarding this issue and believe that all foreigners must have their property confiscated even if bought ...
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello: we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide
On 12 June 2010 02:42, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: REPLY: I have read the article by Dr. Oscar Rebello and am wondering why he didn't post it on Goanet - since it seems, he is an avid reader here. May be, just may be - the responses are more than he can take? Are you suggesting Dr. O is massochist enough to voluntarily and for-free place his head on the block and his article on Goanet, and then accept all that friendly fire from the likes of the Rajans and the Soters? You gotta be joking, mate! FN
Re: [Goanet] Bannkocho
Bannkocho is, probably, derived from ban'n the huge copper pot-like vessel used in Goa to boil paddy, but most ubiquitously, to warm water for bath. Because of its copious capacity and distended shape the vessel serves to personify bloated bellies Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2010-06-12 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:51:50 + From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Bannkocho When I ate and drink too much (with inflated belly) my mother often called me ‘Bannkocho’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk26/4682257645/ The one with bigger belly may also be called as ‘bannkocho’ During ‘raponn’ time, plenty of such fish seen on the shore as no one eats such fish. However, I do remember some Kunnbi Gauddi community collecting/eating the same. Only recently, I heard some saying this fish is poisonous one and that two UP lads died recently eating the same in Goa. This fish inflates it belly like a balloon , by upto twice of it size and hence bannkocho Pronounce – Bann as in arrow (Bow and arrow) or Bann-ale (Benaulim) and kocho as in ‘Mocho’ (Shoe) Replace M with K. Extra: Some kunnbi community even eat rats. e.g. If Coconut plucker (Paddekar) catches a rat dead or alive, the landlord rewarded him with a extra coconut of his choice plus ’keep the rat’ Believe me or not, I too ate ‘kol-undrachi xacuti’ along with my friends. We were told it was ‘Kansovachi Xacuti’. It was delicious. We ate it not in a restaurant but in own house. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] not just another day ...
-Original Message- From: Frederick Noronha Before you guys get carried away by your own rhetoric... let me remind you of a few other facts. Quotations of your post preceded by My responses preceded by ** If the (largely) tourism-lured foreigners had not come into Goa in the first place, bought so many houses, and inflated costs hugely in the local market, perhaps people like myself (who spent a lifetime living and working in in Goa) would have been able to afford and buy and maintain a house ourselves. No ** No! 1. What proportions of the purchases are by out-of-state visitors and foreigners? 2. Foreigners who buy contribute to the local economy and keep local journalists in employment :-) 3. Property prices in Goa were low. There has been a recent spiral not only in India but worldwide. Why look for scapegoats? 4. This sound like the presence of foreigners is driving up the price of fish theory! Even if Goa has among the largest per capita rates of outmigration in the world (cf. Robert S Newman), there are still enough back home needing a roof over their heads. ** And those who migrate out can buy houses to make their new homes. The outmigration is perhaps a hundred times more that inmigration. Yes? Let me make this clear: I'm not a xenophobe opposed to foreigners buying homes and properties in Goa. ** Great! Let us all go home then :-) Just a few thoughts, deliberately devil's advocatish in clothing. FN ** I thought it would bring out the devil in angel's clothing :-) ** Lets be clear: 1. I am not suggesting that all foreigners are a blessing for Goa. I agree with Soter that some are guilty of drug trafficking and child abuse but let us not treat them all as criminals. 2. People from all over the world can buy UK property by mail order and settle the account by PayPal :-) 3. I agree that India and Goa has the right and indeed the duty to frame laws to protect local interests even if it means preventing the purchases of property by foreign nationals but any changes should not be retrospectively enforced after sale deeds have been granted. Thank you for listening, Eddie Fernandes London, UK.
[Goanet] Cushioning impact of globalization- del ivering socio economic justice to workers in Goa ’s traditional occupations (GTOS) and busin esses
Cushioning impact of globalization- delivering socio economic justice to workers in Goa’s traditional occupations and businesses This has reference to previous post http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-March/190767.html As a chairman of the 30 member task force committee (hereafter refered as TFC) appointed by the government of Goa in March 2010, under the directorate of social welfare to frame an appropriate scheme and package for protection and support for traditional business/occupations of Goa, I would be submitting my report this month and as declared by the CM in the June 8 press conference, the benefits may start flowing from the current financial year. With the help of members I would be continuously monitoring the progress. The following were my terms of reference:- 1. To identify the traditional occupations of Goa 2. To identify short term and long term needs of traditional occupations for their protection and promotion of their enterprises and employment 3. To suggest specific measures/schemes for upliftment of workers in traditional occupations 4. To prepare and submit a time bound detail action plan for protection and promotion of traditional occupations of Goa I may have an official press conference and make a powerpoint presentation by end of this month. I have been assured full support by Goa bakers’ association, Goa toddy tappers association, Goa potters (kumbhar) association, Goa salt producers association, fulkars, molekars, fogeri, chanekars, khazekars and numerous other stakeholders. They have given excellent cooperation. Subject to the criteria which would be laid down, I expect the new scheme to benefit 70,000- 10 people in Goa at grass roots level. It would be a historic step to support and empower them. Over next 12-18 months, to make the benefits of the scheme reach the genuine people, I personally plan to visit village panchayats which were known to be main centres of traditional occupations/enterprises with some of the committee members ( esp. Rajendra Kerkar, Dadu Mandrekar, Prakash Poreinkar, Soyru Velip and Dr. Uday Gaonkar, Subhash Mahale, Gaspar dias of Toddy tappers association et al.) once the scheme gets going. We would address meetings in local language and visit the houses of traditional workers. How it began? The government was made to act on basis of a detail note which I had sent to the CM on May 28, 2009. The government had provided Rs. 300 lakhs in the budget for the financial year 2009-10 but it could not prepare an appropriate scheme. So, after discussion with stakeholders like Goa bakers’ association, horticulturists (molekars), floriculturists (fulkars), researchers of Goa’s traditional arts and crafts-Rajendra kerkar, Prakash Poreinkar, Dr. Pandurang Phaldesssai and others, I requested the CM in January 2010 to constitute a task force committee. The TFC held two meetings and collected details from stakeholders. We also studied the existing schemes of state and central government departments to avoid duplication. Towards socio economic justice Governments have come, ruled and gone. Since 1988 I have consistently championed the cause of protecting, reviving, supporting the traditional occupations of Goa. There are some social security measures at state and central government level. But these are not sufficient. My village Calapur /Santa cruz had fishermen, toddy tappers, feni distillers, potters, poders, salt producers, garland makers. But with urbanization, change in land use, the occupational structure of village has changed. We used to prepare traditional hot Goan masala (an unique blend of spices) in our house. My father had written the recipe which included 53 items. I couldn’t find it. With his demise the knowledge has vanished. When I interviewed my mother about her knowledge of traditional Goan food she listed about 1000+ recipes. The goan randapi (traditional goan cook/cater) is becoming a rare institution. I told the champions of industrialization that to create one job in an industry an investment of Rs. 1-1.5 crores is required. In addition government gives power, water employment subsidies. Why not protect and promote existing employment-I asked these champions. There is no package for our poders or potters or toddy tappers. I have written on the plight of poders earlier-read http://www.colaco.net/1/nanduPoders.htm). And what’s the tax free profit from Salt production industry?. My student Ms. Sajna Fernandes did a study on salt pans of Merces in 1995. She came out with fantastic figures. A hectare of Salt pan (agor) gives a net profit of Rs. 1.5 lakhs after working for 120 days. An average income of Rs. 1250 per day. I told the governments which came to power since 1988-89 that here is an example of “traditional sustainable employment’. Protect and promote it. I met the ex industries minister Shaik Hassan, then Carmo Pegado and all those who followed them. They were sympathetic but couldn’t do
[Goanet] So whodunit?
So whodunit? Attempting suicide is like saying 'Saiba, mhozo otmo tujea suadin kortan' ‘Saiba’ in this case is the devil. Because we were taught that ‘Jiu divop mhonnge, aplo atmo Deucharachea suadin korop’ So, arrest the abettor Satan He dunit joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
On 12 June 2010 12:59, lino dourado libado23...@yahoo.com wrote: Jose, I agree with your comments. The singer lost the originality of the song. Does she honestly think she can sing 'Hanv saiba poltodde vetam'? Lino Dourado I think the choice is either to encourage more of this to happen (and hope that things get only better along the way)... or the criticise at an early stage itself, in a way that nobody ever things of doing it again! We are champion critics. FN PS: I think we Goans are like the French, who will hate you for speaking their language with a poor diction... not like the Germans, who would hug you if you even tried to speak a very short sentence in their lingo. Okay, maybe these are stereotypes...
[Goanet] Football World Cup - 2010
A month of glorious football is staring at us. To enjoy it most , I think , we have to observe a couple of self imposed rules which are as follows: 1. Do not pay too much attention to print and electronic media reports for ultimately one is bound to feel somewhat disappointed. 2. Choose three teams which you think may do well in the tournament.Watch every game of theirs right from the beginning . One could select the first two i.e. Brazil and Spain and as for the third one it could be any one of the following : Argentina, Italy, Netherlands and Portugal . If you ask me for my third choice, I would opt for Italy.
[Goanet] News from Communicare
Dear students and friends, Hope you have all enjoyed your holidays. Communicare has changes its premises to Dona Paula. We are still trying to put thing together. Classes will start by the end of the month. We will write back with all dates. Thanking you Nalini Elvino de Sousa
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello: we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide
Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote thus to O.C (which somehow may be =Oscar Rebello) : QUESTION: To the good Doc (OC) Does he believe that a whole tube or Ratol was consumed? The data available, suggests, if this was the case she would have been gone within 36 hours! May be our resident Doc from the Bahamas could give us his his opinion on the vast knowledge he has acquired, both as a physician and as a Law Grad === jc Response: 1: Is Gabe asking me for an opinion on what Oscar Rebello believes? or 2: Is he asking me if I believe that ' a whole tube was consumed.?. 3: I have no way of knowing what another person truly believes. 4: Also, I am not a toxicologist - so I have no opinion on the pharmacodynamics of Ratol. If I produce an opinion, it will be based on information that is available to everyone else. 5: BTW: What has anyone's knowledge of law got to do with this question? == Gabe also wrote thus to OC (? Oscar Rebello) Question: Now the good doctor has ascertained that this was a suicide, he has already passed judgment. jc 6: Where is the question? jc 7: Here is a 'judgment' by the esteemed Aires Rodrigues (10 days earlier) [ http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=1196 Adv. Rodrigues has stated that the cause that led Nadia to suicide needs to be probed along with her relationship with Micky Pacheco.] == jc Concluding comment: Is it not proper to WAIT and allow for all the chips to fall where they fall? At this moment, I am more interested in the 'actions' or 'non-actions' of the doctors who saw the patient. For, if they noted the alleged injuries and did not report them to the police -They need to be dealt with. If they did not recognise the alleged injuries, they need to close down shop. jc
[Goanet] SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Hatiyaracho Goir-vapor Zaunk Lagta Tednam…
SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Hatiyaracho Goir-vapor Zaunk Lagta Tednam… -Jose Salvador Fernandes “Tumi kitem re baba? ‘Net’-avelean ani potram-masikantlean tumi tench-tench zoroitat!” Tin dis poilim konn eklo vollkhicho Konknni mogi mhaka mell’lole kodden mhonnpak laglo. “Ami tench-tench kitem zoroilam saiba?” Hanv. “Tuka khorench khobor na?” Nigtoch udeunk laglolea surya porim tachea gorea mukhamollar matxe tambsann udeli. Hanv goddibhor ogich ravlom. Punn dusrech goddiek mhonnlem - “Tem amchem motanchem ani vicharanchem zhogddem, tantum dusmankayechem oxem kainch na.” “Tumchim tim ‘net’-avelim ani masik-potramvelim boroupam je ritin boroyleant tim vachlear, tantum fokot dusmankay nhoi, dusmankaye xivay anik khub kitem asa.” Apnnakuch konnem soroll okman kelolea porim to boroch serious zalo. “Toxem nhoi ga tem,” hanvem mhonnlem. “Voilea-voir polletoleak tem motam-vicharanchem zhogddem dusmankayechem zhogddem dista ga. Itlea khol ani dharechea vichar-motanchem zhogddem tem!” “Mhaka ek gozal sang! Vichar-motanchea zhogddeant ekamekachea bhesak voir kaddpak, ekamekachea vavrache kritikek, ekamekachea vavracher xenn-chikol marpak khuim zago asta? Zalear, vichar-motanchem zhogddem mhonnche poros tem dusmankayechench zhogddem oxem mhonnchem poddlem na?” Itlem uloun to mhoje zapechi vatt pollet ravlo. Hanv matso vell ogich ravlom, ani uprant mhonnlem – “Polle. Khuinchi-i gozal tum je ritin gheta tech ritin tum somzota nhoi? Tantum dusreak guneanvkari tharaum yeta ga?” “Puta mhojea, tumchea tea sogllea boroupantlo ‘tone’ somzot ani utram pollet zalear, tumchea monant ekameka add kitem-kat xizta tem konnak-ui sompeponnim kollon yetolem. Ani mhaka dista, mhoje bhaxen her-ui tem bes-bore ritin somzoleant.” To atm-visvasan uloilo oxem mhaka tea vellar dislem. “Tea gozalimni dusmankayechem oxem kitench asa oxem mhaka disonam. Tuka mhojea sangnnea urfattem dista zalear mhojean mhonn kitem korum yeta?” “Borem! Tujea motak dhorun cholum-ia tem vichar-motanchem zhuz. Vichar-motanchem zhuz zalear, dor eke zapentlean ani manddlolea vicharantlean hem monanchem zhuz disan-dis fuddem vochun xevttim tantuntlean kitem tori ‘conclusion’ yeunk naka aslem? Ailolea disa amchea sarkea vachpeank legit vitt yeum meren tench-tench orth naslolem kalovop, ghunvon-firon teoch-teoch gozali borovop, bhasabhaxecho mullavo ‘point’ soddun modinch anik kosli, matui som’bond nasloli gozal challop, modinch ekamekacher arop korop, boglanttam ghalop, apnnak sopurnn somzun hachim-tachim kutam kaddop, boroupantlean nosay ani ‘ego’ legit ugto korop ani oslem zaitem. Sodanch ugddas dhor cheddea, hatant hatiyar asa mhonn tacho koxea-koso-i goir-vapor korcho nhoi. Kiteak, ek pavtt tea hatiyaracho goir-vapor zaupak lagtoch, tea hatiyarak zo asonk zai aslolo to orth urona. Konknni mollar tor nhoich nhoi.” Survatek thaun je gozalichem khoreponn to mhaka pottounk sodi tem mhaka tachea tea xevottachea utrantlean pottlem. (c) www.goa-world.com Son'var, 12 Jun 2010
Re: [Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (11Jun10)
A'rré Aleixa, Tuunv maka bhorpur pad'cer kortai! Za'lé ek...don mhuinné, u'godlear tumchem potr, kaiunch disti-poddonam...Kashti passun ud'dunt guelea-chi dista Kitten re irmao, tuka dis-bhor April-full lag'la? Oslim foka'nna amchim korp kiteak? Alfred Chacha Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:07 -0400 From: alexyzha...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (11Jun10) Join GBAs 'Chain in the Rain': Today 4pm From the Mandovi Hotel to Protest the Govts Failure to Protect Goa's Ecology! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] The many faces of GOANS
Oh !, Is that so? In that case, it makes 'Mickky Mouse' the wise guy to remain underground. I am sure a lot more things will surface as soon as the (3) maids are questioned. The apparent silencer used here is Rs. 35-40 lacs. But will the silence be maintained with the type of heat generated?? These happens to be getting more and more interesting.. better than 'Waka Waka futebol. Cheers floriano 9890470896 PS: All this because Mickky Mouse had a very successful NCP convention as according to Avinash Bonsle. Sometimes jealousy can work wonders ! - Original Message - From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: [Goanet] The many faces of GOANS Undisclosed sources have stated that Nadia was first brought to Hospicio and bruises were observed, and were told it would have to be registered as a medico-legal case. From there she was taken to Apollo hospital; and being a private hospital readily admitted. In all probabilities only when the senior doctor had seen the case it must have been informed that a medico-legal case will have to be registered. From there she was shifted to Mumbai, that too a suburb hospital when there were better equipped hospitals in central Mumbai. A dying declaration was staged. But the ignoramus did not know that there are prerequisites for a dying declaration to be valid. And a blatant lie in the declaration of mistaking Ratol for toothpaste has thrown the dying declaration into the dustbin. Qualified allopathic doctors know their responsibilities when should a medico-legal case be registered, not only because they have a subject in their curriculum but also because they have to work as Casualty Medical Officer where many medico-legal cases are their full responsibility, both in the treatment as well as in the Court of Law. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ See the news as it happens on MSN videos http://video.in.msn.com/=
[Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello: we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide
QUESTION: To the good Doc (OC) Does he believe that a whole tube or Ratol was consumed? The data available, suggests, if this was the case she would have been gone within 36 hours! RESPONSE: In India there is no dearth of spurious medicines for human use leave aside pesticides and insecticides. Too bad the Ratol bought had some zinc phosphide in it. Secondly, what data is available, may I know, to make such a brash statement? Read this : http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Docs/ref_toxicity1.html#CaveatsHuman Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ The latest in fashion and style in MSN Lifestyle http://lifestyle.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] GOAN GOLDEN GLOW
For Goan politicians and businessmen, real glow is in Real Estate and Gold is in Mining. Everywhere else it is only deaths and destruction. Sample this: 1) Over 100 people dead and 200 injured under the wheels of mining trucks. 2) Rampant flouting of TCP Act in converting fields, forests and hills. 3) No action on Illegal mining. Leader of opposition claimed that 22% mining in Goa is illegal. Government did not even say a word thus accepting it by conduct. 4) Police in drug trade. 5) Mahanand not guilty. 6) Minor Girl working as maid servent with one Engineer Pednekar was tortured and burnt in July 2009. Media created hype for few days. Nav-hind, Herald, Lokmat Gomantak or Tarun did not write a word after that. 7) Pollution level in all towns of Eastern Goa at alarming levels due to mining. 8) Ministers and their sons in sex scandal. 9) Newly built Bus-stands at Cuncolim, Shiroda, Honda used only by Cattle, Love-birds. 10) E very year 5000 educated engineers, doctors, graduates migrate out of Goa and 4 truck drivers, mine workers, construction labor migrate into Goa. 11) Two New Moti-dongors initiated every year to inhibit vote-banks. 12)So called legal mining has imnnumerable illegal aspects. 13)Charles Correia Recommendation on Regional Plan in CM’s dust bin. Not emptied because Porvorim garbage disposal yard is overflowing. CM will take it to Margao once Sonsodo is operational. Baiguinim site identified for the reports of new advisers Raghunath Mashelkar, Vijay Bhatkar and Anil Kakodkar. 14)Police pilfer drug from judicial custody. 15)Rampant Hill Cutting with connivance of TCP, Mines and PWD ministry. 16)Ignored Petition by Goan Padma Winners Mario Miranda, Ravindra Kelekar, Remo Fernandes, Suresh Amonkar, Norma Alvares and Maria Aurora Couto to stop mining excesses. 17) 2000 strong CISF force planned to suppress voices of GBA, VGG and other agitators. 18) The only department of Goa government not to have a website is MINES DEPARTMENT! Cental Government made it compulsory for all states to constitute Empowered committees for mining and to post their constitution on website. The Committee should meet at regularly and its proceedings should also be put on the website. 19) Goa now is the CASINO capital of India 20) Rs 1600 crore is spent on Government employees salaries and pension a year. This means every Goan family pays Rs 80,000 a year for the leap services they provide. 21) Mining migrants have spread diseases likee Chikungunia and HIV in minig areas. 22) Garbage-Garbage everywhere! 23) Economic Survey 2009-10 says agriculture in Goa is finished (due to minig dust?) with output (at constant prices) falling 20% from Rs 922 crore in 2006 to Rs 735 crore in 2009. Paddy reduced 20% from 221K tons 2006 to 177K tons in 2009. Vegetables reduced 32% from 83K tons in 2006 to 58K tons in 2009. Mangoes reduced 56% from 27K tons in 2006 to 7.5K tons in 2009. Cashew nuts reduced 52% from 27K tons in 2006 to 13K tons in 2009. 24) Last year budget foresaw collection of Rs 115 crore from water supply. But collected only Rs 70 crores. Where did Rs 45 crore go? 25) MPT site says iron ore exports for 2009-10 through Mormugao Port were 403 lac tons, whereas Goa Mineral Ore Exporters site says exports for the same period through Mormugao Port were 288 lac tons and Panaji Port were 85 lac tons. Why does GMOEA understate throughput via Mormugao Port by 115 lac tones valued at Rs 7000 crore at FOB price of $130 per ton? 26) Goa is the RAPE TOURISM capital of the World? 27) Media persons connive with drug peddlers and get paid from them through police? Rajendra Kakodkar
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello: we need hotlines for potential victims on the verge of suicide
On 12 June 2010 12:56, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote thus to O.C (which somehow may be =Oscar Rebello) : .. At this moment, I am more interested in the 'actions' or 'non-actions' of the doctors who saw the patient. For, if they noted the alleged injuries and did not report them to the police -They need to be dealt with. If they did not recognise the alleged injuries, they need to close down shop. jc RESPONSE: This is fast moving case - in the meantime a post :- http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg62547.html By Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão; Should satisfy or maybe not. Slander as defined and understood by Frederick Noronha, is not the same as what is stated in the Dictionary.-- What my man stated, is what he knows as a matter of fact! Being a Margao born and bred person, surely he wouldn't spew bondalam? People in Salcete, more so in Margao, know the nuances of how things workbut I do agree with you, we should wait and see how things unfold. In the meantime the die has been cast. DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goa Niwas (New Delhi) finally inaugurated on 11th June 2010
Goa Niwas (New Delhi) finally inaugurated on 11th June 2010 At the hands of Congress/UPA president Mrs Sonia Gandhi. Almost all cabinet minister and Congress MLAs and their aids chamchas etc had gone to New Delhi (offcourse, by air and at our cost) CM Digambar Kamat, PWD Minister Churchill Alemao, Speaker Rane, Home Minister Ravi, Tranport Ramkrishna Dhavilkar, Power Aleixo Siquera, Health Visvajit Rane, Dy.speaker Mauvin Godinho, MP Francis Sradinha, MP Shantaram Naik, Revenue Jose Filipe, Rajive Shukla, MLA Pandurang Madkaikar, Law commission Ramaknat Kalap. Cong President Subash Shirodkar, Congress Observer Luizinho Faleiro, Besides CS Sanjay Srivatava, CM’s Sec. Rajiv Yaduvanshi, Principal Engieer PWD Wacha Sunder, Chief Enginer PWD Rego, DI Menino Peres etc etc Contucted at the cost of 17 crore (original estimate was 9 crores) in the total area of 4195 sq mtr in the plot No. 14 Bir Tikendarjit Marg, Chanayakpuri New Delhi.. Ready/completed in 4 years Foudation stone was laid on 5th July 2006 by then Goa CM Rane. New Goa Niwas with ground plus 3 structure has 18 rooms 4 suits 4 dormitories Plus Conference hall, library, Gymkana, changing rooms, swimming pool, basement room, basement car parking etc == From the archive: /2006 Goa Niwas (spacious new guest house coming up soon) Foundation Stone for new Goa Niwas at Chanakyapuri in New Delhi laid on July 5. CM Rane and PWD Minister Dhavlikar and Union Minister for Urban Development Jailpal Reddy etc were present -The main feature of the project will be it’s Goan architecture with Mangalore tiles roofing etc -The total area of the building is 4100sqmtrs including the basement. -It is of ground plus three structure building. -Ground floor with main entrance, lobby, shops, Gym and kitchen/dining and small swimming pool with landscape. -Basement with parking, generator, storage, laundry ec -First and second floor of the building with rooms with attached toilets and four dormitories. -Two of the four dormitories are of 60 sqmtrs each and the other two of 35sqmtr each. -The capacity of the dormitory is of 40 beds. -There are 20 rooms accommodating 40 beds on first and second floor -Third floor is exclusively for VVIPs consists of five suites comprising of living, dining and bedroom with attached toilets. -Total estimated cost of the project is Rs. 9 crore JoeSays: What is Goa Niwas or for that matter Goa Bhavan or Goa Sadan ? It is nothing but a hotel/guest house exclusively for Goans in other states of India. It is run and managed by Goa Government We have, at present, one in Bombay (near Juhu) and one in New Delhi near Lodi Gardens. How one can book accommodation there ? Before you leave Goa, you will have to book it though Under Secretary (Secretariat) by filling in the prescribed forms (Don’t know if this has changed now as we used to book about 15 years ago) They have a reservation chart there and book/reserve accordingly. One can book pvt. attached rooms or dormitory (as per the availability). Tariffs are generally low. When we booked pvt rooms in both Goa Sadan and Goa Bhavan, on arrival, we never got our pre-booked rooms and were give dormitory instead. When asked, we were told the pvt. rooms were taken by top Govt. officers (and this was not true most of the times) joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] the Education Minister
Can any of our readers enlighten me as to whether it was finally established that our Education Minister, Babush Monseratte cleared the SSC exams or only managed to pass the Standard 7 class at St. Theresa`s School in Mumbai ?
[Goanet] Encosta Sua Cabechinha
Enjoy this beautiful Portuguese song and scenes around Goa. CLICK ON LINK BELOW AND TURN UP SOUND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3mzbQI9biwfeature=related -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] GOAN GOLDEN GLOW
Rajendra Kakodkar has hit the Golden nail on the Golden headed CM of Margao, Goa. The Digmabar Kamat Government has put the Golden lid on the future self-sustainability of the Goan community by destroying it once and for all. We are made dependent on other States and on the migrants to satisfy almost all our basic needs. We are totally dependent on other States for electricity, vegetables, food grains, milk, fruits and in a short span of five years even drinking water will be supplied by Karnataka. All we are left with is a bottle of soro in our hands to say Viva and dance like monkeys on river cruises and in hotels to entertain the tourists. Goa is another Pattaya in the making. Just five years more and Goans will be forced to sell themselves.. -Soter
[Goanet] Note (2006) on preparing a policy on sustainable mining of alluvial sand resources from Goa's rivers
With low capital base, cheaply exploited unorganised labour living in poor conditions, zero concern for ecology and environment, intensive sand mining is nothing but the mass rape of rivers of Goa. Exploitation has crossed millions of cubic metres per month. The business has crossed Rs. 1000 crores per year (check rising bank deposits in Colvale, Dhargal, Pirna alone) and is still growing thanks to explosion of constructions, megaprojects. We don't need another Saleli in our islands. Farmers from Tuem, Camurlim, Chicalim colvale used to visit me at St. Cruz to tell their woes. River banks have collapsed. Shell fisheries is gone. Coconut groves washed out. Khazans flooded. The letter sent by Minister of environment and forests (independent charge) Mr. Jairam Ramesh ( http://moef.nic.in/downloads/public-information/Rpt_IA1.pdf) to all the chief ministers on sustainable mining of minor minerals on June 1, 2010 vindicates what I had been advocating since 1993. On September 22, 2006, I had sent a note to CS, Goa hoping that he would act on it. Since 1993-4 I did not receive much support from civil society or the media on the issue. The issue was focused since 1993. Collector (north Goa) Mr. Jose Philip was given a copy of the report prepared for Peaceful Society by my students who happened to be from the villages known for sand mining-Dhargal, Colvale etc. . (The report was captioned-'Ecological Economic Aspects of Alluvial Sand Mining from Terekhol Colvale Rivers, Kamat, N, Kasar V, Desai, V and Mandrekar K, 1994, Peaceful society). He sent some letters, but there was no change. people were turning greedier. Have Rs. 5 lakhs and invest in this business. In 2000 I supervised another student from Cumbarjua, Mr. K. Bhosle to survey all the five estuarine islands of Mandovi. He produced an impressive report-' Environmental management of estuarine ecosystem in Goa. He quantified sand exploitation in Jua. It worked out to be 61000 cubic metres (CM) per year, far above sustainable capacity in that small ecofragile island. At the unit rate prevailing then (Rs. 600 per CM) they were getting Rs. 3. 6 crores per year. Imagine 3.6 crores in a village where the panchayat has an annual development budget of a few lakhs per year. This study showed that sand worth Rs. 60-75 crores was exploited from Jua over 20 years. This must be a record for a small estuarine island. Again massive sand excavation has begun in Jua. I asked my student to suggest remedies. He came out with the following:- Sustainable Management Of Alluvial Sand Mining In Mandovi River: The overexploitation of the alluvial sand may result into erosion of the river. Therefore when Government authority issues license for extraction sand following guidelines should be put to make sustainable exploitation of sand. The extraction of the sand must be restricted to certain minimum capacity for every month and that limit must not be exceeded. Certain plots should be made in the river which should be allotted for each sand owner.Authority should be appointed to look after whether these guidelines are followed or not and penalty should be given if guidelines are not followed I had submitted a copy of the report to govt. of Goa. Now with ban by Karnataka to export Kali river sand to Goa a new Sand rush has begun. Therefore the issue needs to be focused because not only ecofragile islands in Mandovi but more than 20 villagesin Terekhol, Colvale and Mandovi river basin face the problems. I intend to followup this matter persistently with Goa administration. If these remedies fail then the affected villagers would be guided to follow the peaceful, non violent route of a PIL in high court. I am sure the civil society would find a lawyer for them. - Forwarded message -- From: Dr. Nandakumar Kamat nka...@unigoa.ac.in Date: Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 5:22 PM Subject: Note on preparing a policy on sustainable mining of alluvial sand resources from Goa's rivers To: cs-...@nic.in Cc: nandka...@gmail.com To, The CHief secretary, Govt. of Goa, Shri J.P.Singh, IAS, Sir, Compliments for your stand on a rapidly depleting resource of Goa-the alluvial sand. I am attaching a note for your action. It may be also brought to the notice to the hon. minister for mines, shri Digambar Kamat. If you need any further information I would be pleased to furnish. Let us all strive to get an excellent and acceptable policy for Goa. Thanks warm regards Dr. Nandkumar Kamat Goa University Note Dr. Nandkumar M. Kamat Lecturer, Dept. of Botany, Expert in Environmental Impact Assessment Goa University Sept. 22, 2006 To, The Chief Secretary, Government of Goa, Shri J. P.Singh, I.A.S. A note on formulating a clear-cut scientific policy on sustainable alluvial sand mining Sir, My attention was drawn by the following news item published in The Navhind Times issue today (Sept. 22, 2006)-Weblink-http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092251 Policy on sand mining soon NT
[Goanet] Bannkocho
WARNING - Please do NOT try it on your Mother-in-law Bannkocho IS poisonous, IT is a delicacy in Japan (but they know the technique) Bannkocho skin is used in Africa for voodoo (shown on UK TV) Only the Shamans in Africa know the dose (how much to give to kill a person) AND BRING HIM TO LIFE AGAIN This is where the Name ZOMBIE comes from - A man/woman is selected, given a dose, buried as a dead. People of the village are then told to dig him/her out ALIVE Victim then becomes a Devil, SO? S/he is told to disappear or be killed plus the Shaman will do it to them again For fear s/he scuppers. TV Crew tracked one such person down in another town Every thing checked with his family. EVEN YOUR CAT WILL NOT EAT IT.
[Goanet] POISON
Corrected POISON Contains 3% Phosphorus NET 35g CAUTION: Keep away from Children and domestic pets. Do not allow it to touch eyes and do not inhale Wash hands properly after use. ANTIDOTE: In case it is accidentally swallowed, give salt in warm water until vomit fluid is clear. For safety, call doctor. Expiry in 3 years from the date of Mfg. MRP Rs.20 That’s RATOL http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4626336130/ above info taken from the box/tube joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Nadia Torrado Case
For those keeping score - the ratio of speculation to facts is running 50:1 George
[Goanet] Lyndon's 2002 conviction; GTDC appt illegal - Aires
http://www.targetgoa.com/newsd-Lyndon-s-2002-conviction-GTDC-appt-illegal-Aires-435 Lyndon's 2002 conviction; GTDC appt illegal - Aires 2010-06-12 Lyndon's previous 15-month conviction makes his appointment as Director and Vice-Chairman of GTDC illegal. So says Adv. Aires Rodrigues who revealed that in 2002 Lyndon Monteiro was convicted and sentenced to a total of 15 months imprisonment by a Margao Court under Section 138 of the Negotiable Instruments Act for issuing six dud cheques to a Vasco based businessman Mr. Rudradevan Ellath amounting to a total of for Rs six lakhs. Adv. Rodrigues has stated that Section 274(1)(d) of the Companies Act mandates that a person shall not be appointed director of a company, if he has been convicted by a court of any offence involving moral turpitude and sentenced in respect thereof to imprisonment for not less than six months and a period of five years has not elapsed from the date of expiry of the sentence. Monteiro's conviction was in 2002 by Judicial Magistrate First Class, Vasco Mrs. Kshama Joshi on 11th Feb. The order was upheld n 10 June 2003 by South Goa Additional Sessions Judge Desmond D’Costa who dismissed Monteiro's appeal and sent him to jail that very day. Lyndon Monteiro, says Aires Rodrigues, was imprisoned at Sada Sub-Jail at Vasco from 10th June 2003 to 16th September 2003. The matter was later compounded in the High Court after Monteiro paid Rudradevan Ellath the Rs 6 lakh to avoid undergoing a further year in jail. In view of the sentence imposed by the Court on Lyndon Monteiro he could not have been appointed as a Director and Vice-Chairman of Goa Tourism Development Corporation in November 2007, says Adv Rodrigues. He further pointed out that the Companies Act also provides that in case of appointment of a Director in contravention of law, the appointed director is liable to refund to the Corporation the entire amount received and perks or enjoyed by him at the cost of the Corporation. A Director appointment in contravention of law is liable for imprisonment upto 3 years and also fine of Rs.500/- for every day of default. All expenditure incurred on Lyndon Monteiro by the Goa Tourism Development Corporation must be recovered from him and Adv Rodrigues calls for Lyndon Monteiro's proscecution in accordance with the law. I have nothing personal against Mickky Pacheco or Lyndon Monteiro, said the activist. It is high time people in public office learn that they have to be ready for their public and private life to come under the public scanner. Now their guilt or innocence is for the court to decide. I would like to tell the people of Benaulim too that I understand their concern that their elected representative is absconding, but there is no reason for them to threaten to chop off the hands of the police. This is not fair to the police. They are merely doing their job. This is a serious crime. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goan Observer...
*MOUSE TRAPPED* AND a few stray thoughts on the sacking of Mickky Pacheco from the cabinet and the filing of an attempted murder charge under Section 304, which is culpable homicide not amounting to murder. Nothing happened to Mickky till Sharad Pawar, the NCP supremo, intervened. Both Chief Minister Digamber Kamat and Home Minister Ravi Naik were reluctant to even mention him by name as an abettor to Nadia Torrado’s suicide. Very cleverly, Mickky turned the heat on the Home Minister and the Chief Minister by calling for a CBI enquiry into the drugs scams involving Ravi Naik and the illegal mining scam in which Digamber Kamat is himself allegedly implicated. Such an enquiry would not have been to the advantage of either Digamber Kamat or Ravi Naik. Indeed, when the decision was taken to transfer the Nadia case to the Crime Branch, it was presumed that it would be the last one would hear of the case. This is because, historically, the Crime Branch has been the favourite burial ground of politicians facing potentially embarrassing cases. *PAWAR GOOGLY* Mickky would have got away, as he had got away in the past with criminal assault on public officials, but for the intervention of Sharad Pawar, the NCP supremo. It may be recalled that there are several cases pending against Mickky for assaulting public servants in a fit of rage. In one instance, Mickky pulled out the driver of a bus which had overtaken his car and pounded his face with the knuckle dusters he wears on his fingers. On another occasion, Mickky assaulted a junior engineer of the Electricxity Department for a real or imagined grievance. Mickky has had a violent history, which is why the fresh revelation that there were several injury marks on Nadia’s body does not come as a surprise. The injury marks have been confirmed by the Thane police, where she was shifted from the Apollo Victor Hospital in Margao. Even the first post mortem conducted at the Apollo Hospital in Chennai immediately after she died confirmed that there were injury marks made with blunt instruments all over her body. It was at this stage that the police converted the earlier complaint registered as abetment to suicide by unknown persons to culpable homicide amounting to murder. *USEFUL DIVERSION* Mickky’s dropping from the cabinet was on the intervention of the NCP supremo Sharad Pawar. The NCP chief has enough on his plate with a defiant Lalit Modi of the IPL making counter chargers against the NCP leader who is also the chairman of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI). Amongst the charges made against Sharad Pawar was that one of the firms controlled by him in Pune had made a bid for the Pune franchise. Earlier it was alleged that his son-in-law had a stake in the Mumbai Indians team. Perhaps Sharad Pawar decided that the Mickky case would prove to be a useful diversion from the scams he himself is involved in. It may be recalled that Chief Minister Digamber Kamat has been consistently claiming that he, as leader of the Congress Legislative Party, cannot take any action against Mickky who was a member of the NCP, the coalition party in the Digamber Kamat government. After making suitable enquiries with his most trusted confidant Prafulla Hede, who is the most powerful man in the NCP though he does not hold any office, Pawar gave Digamber Kamat the green signal to drop Mickky from the cabinet. Very promptly indeed, within 24 hours of the sacking of Mickky, the other NCP MLA who has been extremely sore over not getting his due share of the loaves and fishes of office, Nilkant Halarnkar, was sworn in as a cabinet minster. But whether he will be given the tourism portfolio is not sure because apparently both Babush Monserrate and Aleixo Sequeira have staked their claim to the tourism ministry. *NARCO GODFATHER* The sacking of Mickky has created a fresh problem for Digamber Kamat. In the historical game of one-upmanship between the Congress and the NCP, the latter has forged ahead and has demonstrated that it is willing to sack ministers whose conduct is unbecoming. The logical corollary of this is that Digamber Kamat will be under pressure to drop Ravi Naik, the home minister, who is in the centre of the narcotics scam. While the politicians would have us believe that the chief referred to by Israeli drug peddler Atala in the now notorious video posting on the net is the police inspector Ashish Shirodkar, who was suspended, and not allegedly the son of Ravi Naik, Roy Naik, there is no reason why a drug peddler should be frightened of a mere police inspector. Mickky, to save his skin, will no doubt get even more vociferous about Ravi’s links with the drug trade, not to mention the collapse of law and order in Goa. It may be recalled that Mickky Pacheco had gone to the extent of describing Goa as the ‘rape capital of the country.’ In their anxiety to settle scores with each other, the members of the Goa cabinet have never considered how damage would be done to
Re: [Goanet] Aum Saiba.... via Toronto !
Are we trying to encourage Goans? or discourage them? Are we trying to build them up? Or bring them down? George
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
A great effort but sadly the accent is not Goan at all and the emphasis is on the wrong syllables - of course, you can take my comment with a table spoonful of salt as I am no great shakes at music but this is my honest opinion. -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
On 12 June 2010 21:25, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: A great effort but sadly the accent is not Goan at all and the emphasis is on the wrong syllables - of course, you can take my comment with a table spoonful of salt as I am no great shakes at music but this is my honest opinion. Tony, let's say it's an expat Goan accent. Born in Tanzania probably, raised in Canada. And what's wrong with that? Weren't you a toto in Arusha too? Didn't your knowledge (or lack of knowledge) of Konkani get laughed at when you first came down? We're great for putting down each other. Language is a fantastic tool! Didn't Bardezi speakers laugh at Xashti? Wasn't the Konknno and his style of speaking depicted in crude stereotypes in the tiatr till the other day (now that score is reserved for the Ghantin)? And didn't Devanagari look down upon Romi? Or Antruzi select itself as the fountainhead of all dialects, while also delegitimising the Pednem or Kankonn dialects? If we expect expat Goans to straightaway have flawless accents, forget it! (My Malyalee, Telugu and other expat friends are also reporting the loss of language, which Goans, being earlier migrants, had faced earlier on in history.) Even in Goa flawless is a matter of definition. If we cease poking fun at others, there's a lot of scope for accents to improve. More so, with the Internet around, to learn from and share ideas and examples. What's important is intention and affinity. I think it's unfair to laugh at those making the effort. Feedback is welcome, but why make it into a bitter pill? (I don't mean you...) FN Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Goa news for June 13, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Monsoon advances to Karnataka, Goa, south Konkan - Press Trust of India est monsoon today advanced to south Konkan, Goa and most parts of Karnataka with signs of reaching peak ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/706133_Monsoon-advances-to-Karnataka--Goa--south-Konkan-usg=AFQjCNHoz9T7wePBcYxm-NezA3ZRhWDK-w *** Missing Goa ex-minister files for anticipatory bail, says he is innocent - NDTV.com inister of Tourism Mickey Pacheco has applied for anticipatory bail in a Goa court. The court will hear the plea tomorrow. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/missing-goa-ex-minister-files-for-anticipatory-bail-says-he-is-innocent-30533.phpusg=AFQjCNEckSHdPfZmNB6gHPnsJmDKwmCIQw *** Goa police question Pacheco's live-in partner - Indian Express n partner of Goa's former tourism minister Franscisco Mickky ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Goa-police-question-Pacheco-s-live-in-partner/633116usg=AFQjCNFX5cHhZxhT9Qv8wX0bK7UylAhvNw *** 'Serial Kisser' buys home in Goa - indiablooms s-gaga-over-Goa/Article1-555765.aspxusg=AFQjCNEIC6kE8JIwDfnEzLcsW9qqIwxrwgEmraan is gaga over Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiablooms.com/BollywoodDetailsPage/bollywoodDetails110610g.phpusg=AFQjCNECfG2u6jwUCx1uSEuf14vR13WMxA *** Goa gets 2nd airport; Greater Noida next? - Economic Times onomic TimesNEW DELHI: The government has approved setting up of a greenfield international airport in Goa, relaxing the 150 km minimum separation norms. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/Goa-gets-2nd-airport-Greater-Noida-next/articleshow/6035439.cmsusg=AFQjCNE4tWGuFRmPGGTj9ZhVVvf4vWufSA *** Goa gets new minister, Mickky key suspect in death - Sify -Halarnkar-inducted-in-Goa-Cabinet-in-place-of-Pacheco/Article1-554943.aspxusg=AFQjCNGnzWs7yih98d9OtgT8Mp_ScJRkHQNCP's Halarnkar inducted in Goa Cabinet in place of Pacheco http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/goa-gets-new-minister-mickky-key-suspect-in-death-news-national-kgiv4cejidf.htmlusg=AFQjCNFVBFD_v9LiG57G9AS1Fd6YbiH1GA *** Pacheco's aide was convicted for cheque bouncing - Sify ot-pacheco.htmlusg=AFQjCNHsLzMbgYx36eSuRGtvCCBPed3FtwControversies not new for Pacheco http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/pacheco-s-aide-was-convicted-for-cheque-bouncing-news-national-kgmpEgjhfac.htmlusg=AFQjCNFL2cxnCtOO0H2sO5CTPU2MshxKEQ *** Mumbai may take it easy for now, says Met expert - Hindu Business Line rrives-in-city-will-be-90-normal-says-Met/articleshow/6039503.cmsusg=AFQjCNGso4NvXcNHy_Ig5ObCu2GjwOMAzgMonsoon arrives in city, will be 90% normal, says Met http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/06/13/stories/2010061351710300.htmusg=AFQjCNFsVzp9pWSfFRm8IcuFOur9FZLAgw *** Flea Lounges - Indian Express dian ExpressThe people were dressed as they would in Goa, says Khodu Irani of High Spirits adding that the real feel of Goa can only be brought through introducing ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/flea-lounges/633151/usg=AFQjCNGIBJtaAgLELQO3GAFVn47jJyH8OA *** Gas pipeline for Goa industries to be ready by 2012 - The Hindu e HinduPTI The 100 km long gas pipeline between Gokak (Karnataka) and Goa would be ready by 2012 and give impetus to industries relying on gas as their prime raw ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://beta.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article453885.eceusg=AFQjCNHuxl3DWhJEkmnsUgzYZwLBZijgng Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
A pathetic...I, only I, am the best syndrome... What a colossal load of sour grapes must be menacingly tantalizing this poor creepmakes me quite shudder coming across such punctured egos! Poor chapcan't help commiserating with the guy, either... Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, 2010-06-21 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:59:20 -0400 From: philpereira2...@yahoo.ca To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto! Quite interesting, to say the least!! A Goan woman singing Konkani but not with Goan musicians (the bass player and drummer) but with whites although I have no doubt, there are tons of excellent Goan musicians in Toronto!! And, incidentally, since I am a drummer, the white drummer seems quite amateurish. Looks like Goans will always pander to the whites. That's why our beautiful land, Goa, has almost been taken over by the whites!!! I will be copying you a couple of most interesting e-mails I have received showing how Goa has been absolutely decimated by the white influx. Phil. P. --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Frederick Noronha wrote: Aum saiba... via Toronto. [Jacinta Luix is daughter of Jerry/Eva Luis of Toronto, ex Candolim/Dar. Eva is ex Zanzibar.] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE2iIkLV06M Thanks to Ivy from NZ for the link. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] Today’s Pic: My favourite Mangilar (only next best to Mancurad)
JoeGoaUk wrote: These mangoes usually appear (market) late May, whole of June and may be till mid July. I love it. I just bite it and then squeeze So sweet so fleshy I use no knife no plate My first bite always reminds me of my childhood. It reminds me of eating mangoes exactly of the same taste or flavour Except, I didn’t know the name ‘mangilar’ then. My be we call it by another name in XASTTI Joe, Talking about childhood mangoes, how about the situation where the first mango a child tastes is a mango from a tree on her great-great-grandparents property in Goa? Thanks to air travel, a child living in Toronto can now experience that pleasure. Check out the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nSgg1NUI7U Mervyn1227Lobo
[Goanet] Happy Feast of St. Anthony
Konkani Orasao /Hymn SANT ANTONI BOCTA 1 Sant Anton bocta Firgueachea cullichea Tujea livrar khelta Menin jezu raza 2 Menin jezu khelta munnu Nossa Senhorin gatli dimbi Orassaum mental cori Boctu Sant Antoni 3 Doria mum tea mazari Cosolo zalo dunvor Padri veta cunvor Boctu Sant Antoni 4 Jeruzalea Xarantu Rogtacheo zaleo zori Ochorian cori Bocta Sant Antoni 5 Davidan sangilem Saloman sopon parkilem Ballok hatant kheltalem Boctu Sant Antonichea Goa-Velha http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3622116449/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3622936566/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3622120097/sizes/l/ Siolim http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3658052857/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/173803733/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukchurches/3658052363/sizes/l/ Miramar Circle http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3676484154/sizes/l/ 6 Xastro porgotta astana Magli noman mori Morti livrar keli Aplea bapachi 7 Mezu armar korun Frutu mandilem Melolem bhurgem tuvem Ochoriam jivem kelem 8 Xiumteam mogureamcho Kelo ek poddu Milagrincho boctu Boctu Sant Antoni 9 Harpam violam vazun Muzgani kelo cantu Firguemgelo santo Bhoctu Sant Antoni 10 Sant Antoni Bocta Ochoriam tujea tera Choudavem cori bocta Amchea papiachea xara joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Any takers for this Ratol suicide case?
Joe, Don't you see that Mr Jenu Dipu Naik was not associated with any minister in the Goa cabinet? They don't care about nobody types in Goa ... I fully agree with your rhetorical question. If Nadia was not a pretty young woman and if she was not associated with a minister, nobody would offer to set up a helpline either. No offence to anybody, but nobody would care rat(ol)s a*s - that is how simply life is. Jim F New York. --- On Sat, 6/12/10, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Any takers for this Ratol suicide case? To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:29 AM Any takers for this Ratol suicide case? One Jenu Dipu Naik (52) from Marcaim who had consumed Ratol due to some internal fights in the family succumbed to injuries on 9th June 2010. The deceased was admitted to GMC following his suicide attempt on 5th June . GT dtd 10/6/10 Any one for this ‘not so high profile case’? What about Old Goa Police Station? Any NGOs, saads etc Any Politicians, may be indirectly? Ratol http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4626336130/sizes/m/ Earlier, I remember it was Tik-20, concentrated liquid pesticide which was diluted into kerosene before using in hand pumps to spray bed bugs. Kitchen cockroaches etc joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Nadia Torrado Case
On 12 June 2010 21:41, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: For those keeping score - the ratio of speculation to facts is running 50:1 George To be fair the police and public prosecutors are enthusiastically joining in the speculation big-time. Not just the citizen or the cybernutter. The media are, of course, cashing in on it! What is Rt. Hon. JoeGoaUK talking about humble suicide cases -- where there there's not even a whiff of sex, money, power and crime emanating? FN
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
-Original Message- From: philip pereira Quite interesting, to say the least!! A Goan woman singing Konkani but not with Goan musicians (the bass player and drummer) but with whites although I have no doubt, there are tons of excellent Goan musicians in Toronto!! And, incidentally, since I am a drummer, the white drummer seems quite amateurish. RESPONSE: As is often stated...ignorance knows no bounds!! It is very evident that Jacinta Luis is an accomplished pianist / musician. Looks like Goans will always pander to the whites. RESPONSE: As a Goan, is that what you do in Canada?? Pander to the whites?? That's why our beautiful land, Goa, has almost been taken over by the whites!!! RESPONSE: I hope your next application for a visit visa to India is not denied so that you can go to Goa and save it from being taken over by the whites. I will be copying you a couple of most interesting e-mails I have received showing how Goa has been absolutely decimated by the white influx. RESPONSE: Several Goans have read your email and are appalled at the prejudice therein. Another quote...Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo. - B
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
Folks, I took a look at the video link originally provided. Unfortunately, that link does not do justice to the talents of Jacinta Luis. Jacinta is a professor of music at a Canadian university and is heavily influenced by jazz. Her interpretation of Aum Saiba reflects this influence. I guess traditionalist would have a difficult time listening to her interpretation, the first time around. However, anyone, but anyone, can be a copycat and play a song in the traditional way. The essence of a musician is her version/delivery of any song. For example, here is Jacinta's version of Summertime. http://www.youtube.com/user/jacintaluis#p/u/16/jhoURnzT8eM Since Jacinta is a Cantangoan (Canadian, Tanzanian and Goan) like myself, I doubt she speaks or understands Konkani. Performing in Toronto also means that there probably are more people in the audience that do not understand than understand Konkani. As for the comment on the accent or emphasis on the syllables when singing, I too cringe whenever I hear a musician in Goa sing that great Konkani song, Maliaka. Mervyn1227Lobo
[Goanet] STOP FOOLING GOANS, MR CHIEF MINISTER
Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, who is anyway out of Goa most of the time, should realize that he cannot fool anyone when he boasts that he has continued to live in his dingy flat at Margao even after becoming Chief Minister. Digambar Kamat should instead enlighten the people of Goa on the astronomical growth of his assets and that of his family and business associates after he became Minister and more so over the last three years as Chief Minister. This could be the real reason why this government has kept the proposal for a Lokayukta to check corruption in cold storage. There is no disputing the fact that Digambar Kamat is India’s only Chief Minister who can be contacted on his mobile. But sweet words over the phone without any concrete action is no succour to the common man who is bearing the brunt of the current rampant corruption and a non-performing government. So living in a flat and being accessible on his mobile, is a gimmick by Chief Minister Digambar Kamat to pretend that he is for the Aam Aadmi when he really is not. Slowly but surely the long arm of the law catches up with all misdeeds. It has now roped in the once invincible former Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco. The turn of the other Ministers including Chief Minister Digambar Kamat may be just a matter of time. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] Article on TOI.
Happy to read an article on today's TOI Page 4 (June 13, 2010) on Conflict between Elders Youth written by Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo. Over the years I have been writing articles on the Herald-Goa keeping the GenerationNext in mind, the recent one being Goan Generation GAP published on June 1, 2010 which can be read on my blog http://goangenerationnext.blogspot.com/2010/06/goan-generation-g-p.html Happy to see other broad minded people of Goa also taking an interest on this subject. Plastino D'Costa
Re: [Goanet] the Education Minister
he dosent need to pass the ssc exams.one call to the chairman of goa board and the ssc certificate will be personally delivered at home From: tw...@pathcom.com To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:15:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [Goanet] the Education Minister Can any of our readers enlighten me as to whether it was finally established that our Education Minister, Babush Monseratte cleared the SSC exams or only managed to pass the Standard 7 class at St. Theresa`s School in Mumbai ? _ See the news as it happens on MSN videos http://video.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] Canacona Health Care: Tragic Tales
Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 1): The Unchecked Killer Over the years many people in distant Canacona taluka of Goa have helplessly died like abandoned kids being victims of an endemic problem plaguing the place. The high incidence of renal disorders/diseases here has been a matter of great concern for the local people for several decades. Ironically, it is nothing to vex the politicians as well as our health administrators. The matter was raised in the discussions of Rajya Sabha. Answering to queries raised by the Member of Parliament, Mr. Shantaram Naik in the Rajya Sabha, then, Union Minister of State for Health and Family Welfare Panabaka Lakshmi (Anon, 2007) had admitted that the team from ICMR, NIOH (National Institute of Occupational Health, Meghaninagar, Ahmedabad) had visited and carried out environmental cum biological monitoring in February 2005 and had stated that clinically the disease seemed to be similar to Balkan Endemic Nephropathy (BEN), which was an environmentally acquired disease, possibly caused by mycotoxin produced by fungi in mouldy cereals and food products and aromatic compounds in drinking water (NIOH, 2005).” Further conclusions could only be drawn by correlating the clinical picture bio-technical investigation of blood and urine and other pathological investigations and their correlation with environmental factors, the Minister had said. So far no further investigations and no further conclusions. The matter ends but people continue to die by the dozen every month leaving the living victims and their kin to curse their fate and the government under their breath. Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 2): Kankonkars the CHC The Canacona Community Health Centre (CHC) – the most beautiful health centre built by the government during the Parrikar days -- is a shame and a sham under Digu Kamat. But it is not so much a shame that the CHC has no doctors, no medicines, no medical equipments, no ambulance, no working operation theatre and not even a functional trauma unit to answer common emergencies. What is most shameful is the fact that we the preoccupied people of Canacona have let the CHC be what it is today – at best a first aid centre. (Mind you, Kankonkars were once the lifeline of social activism in the state – remember the 50% bus concession for students) What is most shameful is not that the alarming rise in renal failure cases have never alarmed our aam admi government and the local MLAs over the years and the bureaucrats in general, what is most shameful is the alarming fact that we have never seriously responded to the needs of our own community. Like lambs to the slaughter our sick continue to go to Manipal or the Apollo for something as basic as dialysis. Promises and more promises later we are stilled holed up in stone-age when it comes to public health care. We decided that collectively we can change the CHC to answer the compelling needs of its aam aadmi and so with great expectations and fond hope we called a meeting under the banner of the almost defunct Canacona Health Welfare Committee. Thanks to the persistent efforts of Diago D’Silva the meeting was scheduled with extensive publicity through the local parishes and personally. Ironically less than 50 people including the two Canacona MLAs, Mr Pai Khot and Mr Tawadkar, responded to our call on this life and death matter. The one-point agenda was to decide the future course of action to get the ailing CHC Canacona effectively answer the needs of its people. Canacona Health Care (Tragedy 3): Local MLAs Seated on the dais, Canacona MLA Vijay Pai Khot was busy on his phone openly expressing his lack of interest in a grave matter. Then after restlessly struggling in his chair he spoke a few words and left. (Wonder if he would leave his election-campaign meeting like that.) And by his own words he painted a very bad picture of himself even while trying to colour the Congress black. He unleashed a tirade against the Chief Minister and the Health Minister intermittently reminding the people that “Ami Sotter nam – we are not in power--, yet we have done everything we can. You decide the future course of action and we will be with you.” I thought we elect leaders to lead us. Mr Khot forgot that with the support of the people he could have easily done things his way by the sheer force of compelling numbers. True, the Chief Minister and the Health Minister need to be kicked out at the earliest. But Mr. Khot has obviously missed the obvious fact that he has miserably failed to tap the power of his people to make the ruling rogues be answerable to his people. I would say it is natural to fail in the absence of due effort. But when leaders do their best and still fail it’s time we start looking for an effective leader who gets things done despite all limitations. Poinguinim MLA Mr Ramesh Tawadkar also spoke on the occasion but said nothing. The next
Re: [Goanet] Aum saiba... via Toronto!
Like the Germans, Goans love to hear from any local/foreign born, landed or migrant Goan. Our purpose is not to criticize but to make an effort that when any song sung in any language the proper Tone, etc. Lino Dourado I think the choice is either to encourage more of this to happen (and hope that things get only better along the way)... or the criticise at an early stage itself, in a way that nobody ever things of doing it again! We are champion critics. FN PS: I think we Goans are like the French, who will hate you for speaking their language with a poor diction... not like the Germans, who would hug you if you even tried to speak a very short sentence in their lingo. Okay, maybe these are stereotypes... On 12 June 2010 12:59, lino dourado libado23...@yahoo.com wrote: Jose, I agree with your comments. The singer lost the originality of the song. Does she honestly think she can sing 'Hanv saiba poltodde vetam'? Lino Dourado
