Re: [Goanet] Corrections to the Final RP 2021 and Soter's satire without attire
Dear Soter, WOW! What a wonderful explanation to a simple question? Thanks just the same. You wrote: I am aware of a vilified campaign carried out behind my back by the *elitist activst-real *estate cartel. Thanks to the information forwarded from time to time by *responsible Goans* who are alert and concerned for Goa. If anyone has any proof of my corruption or embezzlement of public funds, I would be most happy to face them on a public platform. We have faced many such *goan cowards and snakes* in the 30 years of community work. -Soter D'Souza 9890056616 Hackneyed accusations, oft repeated, do not become the Truth. How one feels about a wild implication is well reflected in your long, winding response. Yet, that does not prevent you from living in a glasshouse and throwing rocks at others. Touche. Mog asundi Miguel On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:54 AM, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: ** I am recipient of a post to your esteemed mailing groups casting some insinuations against me in response to my views about GBA posted on goanet. I do not wish to be infected with the virus of 'Miguelomania' and therefore desist from any discussion on other claims and counter claims of this non-significant GBA member. I restrict myself to the mischeivous question and doubts raised over what I have done with the money recieved by me from Goa Sudharop. It is for Goa Sudharop to clarify whether the support of Rs. 25,000 for a specific program on Panchayati Raj was given to Soter D'Souza or to the Centre for Panchayati Raj of Peaceful Society. My good friends Ibonio, George and Valerie are aware about how the money was usefully spent by Peaceful Society on the purpose it was specifically meant for. The audited statement of accounts of Peaceful Society on the amount received from Goa Sudharop can be assessed by any member of the public who has any doubt. My comrade and Executive Secretary of Peaceful Society, Kumar Kalanand Mani will be most pleased to ensure transparency on the matter as Peaceful Society is one of the NGOs that gets its statement of accounts audited and signed by the CA on 1st April of every year and placed before the General Body for approval in the first week of April itself. If any of the rascals do not have the guts to appproach directly they can avail of the same from the Registrar of Societies at Shrama Shakti Bhavan, Patto. I am aware of a vilified campaign carried out behind my back by the elitist activst-real estate cartel. Thanks to the information forwarded from time to time by responsible Goans who are alert and concerned for Goa. If anyone has any proof of my corruption or embezzlement of public funds, I would be most happy to face them on a public platform. We have faced many such goan cowards and snakes in the 30 years of community work. -Soter D'Souza 9890056616 -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. *Miguel A. Braganza*, House No.5/4-A Opposite Zonal Agriculture Office Farm Xettiavaddo, *MAPUSA-* 403507 Goa. INDIA Ph +91-9822982676; 91-832-2255 139/913 www.brittos-oba.com www.konkanfruitfest.com www.ofai.org www.pgsorganic.in Horticulture.Facilitation.Networking -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Floriano was a denationalised Goan who gave his life for Bharati Bhasha
Dears, It is sad that there are people who do NOT want to take the trouble to learn things they do not know, they just ask questions! Since this posting is from Goanet, from which I have unsubscribed because of its irresponsibility ... having joined it also to combat its irresponsibility, but in futility I am marking copies to two of its Moderators. If I was as irresponsible as Eugene, I would perhaps ask if Eugene was a Goan or just 'adopted' by a couple of Goan origin. I am as unsure about that as he is about Florian Vaz of Gogol, Margao . Besides, calling into question the FACT that Florian Vaz was dragged out of his house at lunch time, assaulted with the lathi and ordered shot at point blank range with a service rifle of a Gujarat State Reserve Policeman by the then ASI Yetale of Goa Police [still in service and promoted thereafter] on the afternoon of 20 December, 1986, at the height of the KPA-led agitation to make Konkani the Official Language of Goa, Daman Diu is effectively calling the following people and organizations as LIARS: 1. the late Felicio Cardoz who reported the events leading to Florian's death and its aftermath in the GULAB. 2. late Fr. Freddy da Costa, the then owner, editor and publisher of GULAB magazine 3. Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr [TSKK], a Society of Jesus instition that has instituted the Konknni Martir Florian Vaz Puroskar for the author of a book published in Konkani in the Roman Script since February, 2006. 4. Dr. Pratap Naik SJ, Director of TSKK, who instituted this award 5. Ashok Chodankar, Daniel F. de Souza, Vincy Quadros and others who have since accepted this award. 6 the South Goa Scheduled Tribes Association that has recently erected a statue of Florian Vaz at the Gogol Circle 7. Vijay Sardesai who has got a statue of Floria Vaz ready and kept with Florian's family pending clearance by the Goa Govt.'s Home Dept. to install it 8. Churchill Alemao, Minister for PWD and MLA of Navelim, who has publicly announced that he will instal a statue in memory of Floria Vaz, who gave his life so that we may have Konkani as the Official language. Effectively, Eugene becomes a supporter of the hybrid BBSM which consists of those who love MARATHI or Maraticised Konkani as seen in the fact that Mr. Pundalik Naik, former President of Goa Konkani Academy, had not only studied in Marathi but also educated his son in Marathi medium AFTER leading the Konkani Porjecho Avaz to get Konkani as the SOLE Official Language of Goa and insisting that it is the Mother Tongue of over 95 percent of the Goans. The BBSM supports STATUS QUO in the Medium of instruction to prevent the 950-plus Government Primary Schools [GPS] now teaching in Marathi from changing over to English or Konkani in the name of pedagogy that the Mother Tongue is Best for your child ...like breast feeding. Since Marathi is NOT the Mother tongue of Goans according to the KPA stalwarts like Adv. Uday Bhembre and Pundalik Naik [both of them now in BBSM], one is to be forced to use a Wet nurse like the elites of yore who felt that breast feeding was a menial job and feed one's child in Marathi. Worse, the ABE/DSE schools teach a Marathicised version of Konkani in Devanagri script that is best described by the poem published by the current Chairman of the Goa Konkani Academy, Mr. N. Shivdas, in a book ironically dedicated to his own mother!! Perhaps, my take on that poem will be published in this month's issue of JIVIT magazine. It is thought provoking for people like Eugene who do not live in goa but, rather live in their own wonderland ...without Alice. Alice? Who the . is Alice? Then why bother to comment on Florian Vaz you do not remember?? Perhaps, Goa became a STATE because he was KILLED. His life would have been inconsequential as a Gawddi boy in Gogol. Wrote Dr. Manohar Rai Sardessai: Kitle aile, ghele Otthra Jun! Ambea-mullant kuddkuddta Gavddea-por ozun! We will soon commemorate the Goa Revolution Day on 18 June. Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia' satyagraha of 1946 is forgotten by many Goans. What most remember is Naguesh Karmali, Rajendra Subhash Velingkar and their jolly men defacing the street name plaques fixed by the Corporation of the City of Panaji on 18 June, 2004 The Portugese speaking Nagues Karmali found the name plaque in Portuguese intolerable. Hypocrisy is the second natural of his ilk. Opinion Poll [now re-written in 2011 as Triumph of Secularism], Konkani Porjecho Awaz [written on 04 February, 1987 as Konkani means Konkani written in Devanagri script as in the poem CHEDDI reportedly written by N. Shivdas around the same time ...25 years ago], Bharatiya Bhasha Suraksha Manch is .just another [af]front!! Eugene-bab, Those who do not remember their history are condemned to see it repeat these words have written and read before. Mog asundi Miguel
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[Goanet] CATHOLICS IN GOA IN PERIL - OLA 1987
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, The subject line is rather misleading as the script, dialect and language issues are not necessarily on religious lines. Of course, there have been worse subject lines on Goanet in recent years. I AM RETAINING A SMALL SECTION OF GODFREY'S POST TO AVOID THE NEED FOR REPEATING THE FACTS, DEBATABLE THOUGH THEY MAY BE. It is the 22nd anniversary of the passage of the Official Language Act, 1987 on 04 February, 2009. Three days later, the pro-Devanagri only ABKP will have its session at Kundapur in Karnataka state ...a state that has rejected the alleged supremacy of Devanangri script and adopted the Kannada script for teaching Konkani in schools. Devanagri is an option for teaching Konkani, but it is not exercised even in one school in Karnataka to date. The Goa Assembly session begins one day after the OLA, 1987 anniversary. The former MGP minister-turned-Congress CM who saw the OLA Bill through is now the Speaker, the Independent MLA of Margao who guided the KPA in that era is the Chairman of the Congress Think Tank, the KPA President is the IPP of the Goa Konkani Akademi and all three swear by the OLA, 1987. The lone Goa Congress MLA of that era is now a retired hurt former CM and some other leaders of the KPA are now gearing up for another movement The Goa Konkani Akademi has been reconstituted on New Year's Day 2009. No one has seen tomorrow, but one is hopeful of a new dawn. Status quo of the last term ... molestation of the OLA, 1987, but no consumation seems to be on offer in the various cultural bodies, from Kala Academy [Art Culture Dept] to Goa Konkani Akademi [Official Language Dept] with crumbs being thrown but not even on par with those given to the Marathi Akademi. these issues have been debated on the HCN programme CROSSFIRE aired yesterday and tonight [05 Jan. 2009]. There are requests to put out the video on Youtube. That will depend on the HCN policy on the matter. Perhaps, HERALD can host the Youtube clip on its website or give it to GoaMag [www.goamag.net] to host on its site or give it to any other Goa-linked website. The site that hosts it will get famous overnight. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:22:31 +0530 (IST) From: godfrey gonsalves gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] CATHOLICS IN GOA IN PERIL - OLA 1987 Message-ID: 814391.79503...@web95302.mail.in2.yahoo.com It is now becoming increasingly certain almost 22 years after the Official Language Act 1987 was passed with the sly insertion of sec 2c -- (Konkani means Konkani in devanagari script) that it was only the Saraswat Brahmins who have benefited and continue to benefit from this Act. Likewise the non Saraswat Brahmins too owing to the insertion of desirable knowledge of Marathi. A look at the staff complement in the teaching institutions like Goa University etc, the Goa Konknni Akademy, the Directorate of Art and Culture, the Kala Academy, Doordarshan , All India Radio, almost all Government offices the Saraswat Brahmins have found employment prospects for their? RAW (read relatives and wives) though just 3% of the population. It is the Catholic community that has been in the forefront of the Opinion Poll of 16th January, 1967, the Ramponkar Movement, the KPA - language agitation of 1986, the Konkan Railway route, the Meta strip, the PDA's , the Regional Plans, the demand for implementation of the 73rd and 74th amendment to the Constitution giving powers to Village Panchayats and Municipalites the SEZs. mega projects, etc . It is not that these Catholics want NO DEVELOPMENT as is made out to be by the Saraswat Brahmins; indeed the vociferous protests is to ensure sustainable development and maintain the identity of Goa and Goans. ?*** This article Too soon to rejoiceby this writer appeared on the Bombay (now Mumbai) national daily INDEPENDENT on 10.09.1992 and later was reluctantly published by the HERALD on 01.10.1992 *** Too soon to rejoice The inclusion of Konkani in the Eight Schedule of the Constitution brings no immediate benefits to Goa' s Catholics who use the Roman script, says Godfrey Gonsalves * The inclusion of Konkani in the VIII Schedule of the Constitution has fulfilled the ambition of
Re: [Goanet] Fomentos claim Rs.500 Crores as damages for defamation at Calcutta
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, Great to know that 1. Shri Sujay Gupta has shifted to village of the wise, Moira in Bardez taluka; and 2. That he is being certified by a native and resident Moidekar as fulfilling the maxim Do in Moira as Moidekars do The filing of a civil suit by a Goa resident against another Goa resident [with a Bench of a High Court at Panaji-Goa] in the High Court at Kolkatta in West Bengal on the East Coast of India, certainly makes one proud of having spent a few years in Moira. Welcome to the land of the wise ...and otherwise . Moidekars, Sujay! ;-) Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:28:14 +0530 From: goasuraj goasuraj...@sancharnet.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fomentos claim Rs.500 Crores as damages for defamationat Calcutta High Court Message-ID: 49dc3d0e31f440238badb6e4da997...@home The big question is: Has the Plaintiff in the said Defamation Suit, viz. Shri. Sujay Gupta, acquired the WISE-FOOLNESS of the great MOIDEKARS in such a short time from taking up residence in MOIRA??? the Goa Su-Raj Partyhas its head office just a couple of hundred meters from where the Plaintiff Shri. Sujay Gupta has taken his residence. Floriano Lobo goasuraj On January 03, 2009 sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com wrote: Goa's Fomento mining company has filed defamation suit against Sebastian Rodrigues for his online writings claiming Rs.500 Crore as damages. For more on this log on to www.mandgoa.blogspot.com Warmly, Seby Get an email ID as yourn...@ymail.com or yourn...@rocketmail.com. Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dear Dr. Santosh Helekar, Benjamin Disraeli, when he was the PM of UK, is credited with the statement, There are three kinds of untruths: lies, damned lies and statistics. Mark Twain is credited with the coinage of the term lies of virtuous ecstasy The communal cauldron has been stirred in the crusades, jihads and Kalinga war, then in the land of Alexander the Great [ Macedonia-Serbia-Croatia] and continues to be so in Iraq, Afganistan, West Bank and the Gaza strip is the latest of this strip-tease. In the present day, journalism and truth seldom share the same PC or news report. Even advertorials and advertisements come through as Reporter copy or News Desk copy. John Dayal has been a Working Journalist [within the definition of Goa Union of Journalist or GUJ for membership] and continues to be a Press Note Journalist and Ghost Writer like so many have been journalists and Editors, including one who is now the Vice-President- Communications for a 'Group of Companies' with interests in Hospitality [read, 'Hotels and casino', including one unit allegedly coming up near Tirthbag beach close to Vengurla], Infrastructure [ read mining and transport of ore'] and the latest euphemism Mineral Farming [read iron ore mining and planting reports. stories and advertorials in daily newspapers and weekly tabloids] Frederick Noronha is also a journalist on the Goanet, besides other places. He has already disclaimed responsibility for the data by prefacing his sentence thus, According to John. Dayalu or otherwise. ;-) Do I need to tell you that your question below is mere rhetoric? Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:59:16 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Stirring the communal cauldron Message-ID: 562745.4367...@web110313.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com wrote: THE TOLL According to editor turned Christian campaigner John Dayal, the anti-Christian violence between August 24-Ocober 2, 2008 had the following toll: I wonder if Frederick has checked the accuracy of the toll numbers he has listed here. As a journalist, I understand it is his responsibility to have at least two independent sources for any factual information he provides his readers. Cheers, Santosh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] CROSSFIRE on HCN on 04 and 05 January 2009
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, Here are some gems of wisom recorded for CROSS-FIRE on 02 January, 2009, and will be broadcast again on Monday 05 Jan, 2008 at 9.00 P.M. 1. Dr. Kiran Jayant Budkuley, Reader in English, Goa University, On SCRIPT ISSUE: People's opinion should not be considered.. Experts to be consulted. On GKA's President: People of Goa should have a say . Eric Ozario's suggestion is not valid, though he is respected as an artiste. On AMENDMENT to OLA, 1987: The Act should not be changed. On THIRD LANGUAGE 'From Std V to Std.VIII, the only OPTIONAL language should be Konkani. [in Devanagri script as per the OLA, 1987]. So what is optional left about it? 2. Mr. Tomazinho Cardoz, former Speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly On DIVISIONS: There is no such thing as 'Romi-vadi', we are for both scripts, Devanagri and Romi, as equals On SRIPT issue:If the people were told about Devanagri script, the Konkani movement might have taken a different turn altogether. On AMENDMENT to OLA, 1987: When the Constitution of India is amended a number of times, where is the difficulty in amending the Official Language Act? 3 Fr. Mousinho de Ataide, Lecturer in Theology, Rachol Seminary and leader of Catholics For Devanagri [CFD] On SCRIPT It was settled in 1962 that Konkani was in Devanagri and therefore not discussed by the KPA. On AMENDMENT to OLA, 1987:Not an iota of the Official Language Act should be changed. 4. Mr. Premanand Lotlikar, President of DKA On SCRIPT issue: I do not agree with what the Father has said. I endorse what Tomazinho has said. Roman script is not only of one community. 5. Miguel Braganza, Freelance Editor, Columnist and Social commentator. On SCRIPT issue:If the issue was 'settled' in 1962 or 1987 or 1992, why does 'Devanagri' find a specific mention in Section 2 (c) of the Official Language Act, 1987? On DIVISIONS: Is it better to have two scripts and one people or one script and two peoples as was the case after 'Devanagri was adopted for 'Hindi by single vote majority in 1945 leading to the division with Urdu for Pakistan and Hindi for India instead of having Hindoostani in two scripts? On AMENDMENT to OLA, 1987:Is the Official Language Act, 1987, something convenient like the Land Acquisition Act, 1894, or the Societies [Registration] Act, 1860, or the Madhya Pradesh Sound Act that the Government of Goa should not change it? On MEDIUM OF INSTRUCTION : The talk about pedagogy is all humbug. The DSE accepted the 'local language' because of salaries of teachers after the 'equal pay for equal work' court ruling. That is why DSE schools are now migrating towards English medium ICSE in Margao and Vasco # The words above are transcribed from the TV broadcast. There may be slight variation with the words, but not the meaning. All persons received almost equal opportunity at recording and in airtime of the sparingly edited debate. Please watch the telecast on Monday, 05 January, 2009, if you are in Goa. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:59:51 +0530 (IST) From: Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] CROSSFIRE on HCN on 04 and 05 January 2009 Message-ID: 635253.82450...@web8704.mail.in.yahoo.com The HCN will telelcast now 10.00 A. M. IST, a programme WHY THE CONTROVERSY OVER KONKANI'S SCRIPTS? . It will be telecast again on Monday at 9.00 P.M.. The issues discussed include 1.Why the script controversy? 2. Language v/s script 3 Language v/s Medium of instruction 4. Official language v/s Mother tongue. 5. Unity of people v/s single script. 6. What will happen if dual script is accepted. 7. Is the Official Language Act, 1987, Acts sacrosanct 8. Should the Official Gazette of Goa be published in its sole Official language or not? Mog asundi Miguel Also read my article has appeared in the GT on 02 January, 2009, and on Goanet thereafter. Get an email ID as yourn...@ymail.com or yourn...@rocketmail.com. Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Affirmative Action
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Affirmative Action Konkani Amchi Mai, Konkani Amkam Zai! Miguel Braganza Happy New Year, 2009. May Goa be blessed with everything good in this year. We deserve to be happy in our own simple way. Not for us are the Rave parties or drugs, and not for us are the gated enclaves and casinos. Let us put the raves and rapes behind us and retreat to our traditional simple ways. May our Government give power to the Gram Sabhas and Gram Panchayats to plan the development of simple lives for the simple people in our simple villages. May the people of Goa speak their mother tongue, Konkani, with genuine, heart-felt pride. Let the world come and see us in all simplicity. Fellow alumnus from St. Britto HS, Frederick Noronha, wrote an article on New Year's eve entitled Rethinking Language in Goa. It got me thinking. What did a man, who knows very little Konkani and still less official Konkani, have to say on the script controversy and the leadership of the two camps that I did not already know. I have had my children learn in primary school a dialect that seemed as removed from my mother tongue as Bhojpuri or Haryanvi and yet manage to get distinction marks before dumping it to take up English studies as ordained by the Goa Government. I have read and re-read the definition of Konkani in the Goa, Daman Diu Official Language Act, 1987, to see if my mother tongue fits in there somewhere. I have read the Sahitiya Akademi resolution of 1975, the Advisory Board recommendation of 1981 and the 71st Amendment to the Constitution of India of 20 August, 1992. So, what is new that Frederick writes about? Writes Frederick Noronha quite matter-of-factly, In Goa, the language [controversy] gets fueled by suspicion and communal, or caste, based divides. Not surprisingly, therefore, it took two decades for the Romi Konkani supporters to realize that their script and dialects were languishing due to the Devanagri-alone official approach. When I left Goa for my post-graduate studies in December, 1987, the controversy was only between Konkani and Marathi. At the behest of the then Agriculture Minister, now South Goa MP, the Agriculture Officers' Association had translated half of the technical matter in the Agri Diary 1986 from Marathi into Konkani , both type-set in Devanagri script. The Marathi protagonists in Sattari, who could read Devanagri, detected the Konkani portion in the Diary and burnt a few copies in protest just before the OLA, 1987, became a law. The Roman script reading farmers in the South Goa complained that the entire Diary was in Marathi. Among the majority of the Konkani readers in Salcete in 1987, Devanagri script and Marathi were synonymous. The possibility that Devanagri script was also used for Konkani had not registered in their minds even though their children might have learnt it in that script at school since 1960s. Publications in Konkani in the Roman script were more or less a parochial domain. The regular publications, Vavreaddeancho IXTT weekly, Dhor Mhoinneachi Rotti and the GULAB monthly magazine, were controlled by Catholic priests. Other publications like Uzvadd, Undentiche Noketr and others shone for some time and faded away. Secular thought in Konkani set in Roman script perhaps began with the Goencho Ulo tabloid and established itself with JIVIT monthly magazine that recently celebrated two years of publication. Other publications got the courage and the motivation to make their presence felt. Konkonn Divo published by Ashok Chodankar, and Prabhakar Tendulkar's Goykar revived and published by Tomazinho Cardoz, need to be mentioned in this context. Serafin Cotta and Vincy Quadros are two prominent persons with catholic background who are still seen in the Executive Committee of the pro-Devanagri Konkani Bhasha Mandal [KBM] that was founded by a Correia-Afonso from Benaulim. There are others, no doubt, but these two names are easily identifiable in Goa. In a marked shift from the normal, Michael Gracias, the former Secretary of the pro-Romi Dalgado Konkani Akademi [DKA], chose Vincy Quadros as the Editor of his magazine, JIVIT. This action, in spite of knowing that Vincy's links in the KBM for almost a decade, came as a surprise to many. That they have been able to work in tandem for almost two years is a positive sign
[Goanet] CROSSFIRE on HCN on 04 and 05 January 2009
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, The HCN will telelcast now 10.00 A. M. IST, a programme WHY THE CONTROVERSY OVER KONKANI'S SCRIPTS? . It will be telecast again on Monday at 9.00 P.M.. The debate is anchored by Mr. Juino De Souza from Porvorim and has recorded for CROSS-FIRE on 02 January, 2009, inspired by the the announcement of the Goa Government nominees for the Goa Konkani Akademi headed by Mr. N. Shivdas [Shivdas Naik] and including Vincy Quadros, Damodar Mauzo and Prof. Sebastiao Mariano Borges. The CROSSFIRE features 1. Mr. Premanand Lotlikar, President of DKA 2. Mr. Tomazinho Cardoz, former Speaker of Goa Legislative Assembly 3. Dr. Kiran Jayant Budkuley, Reader in English, Goa University 4. Fr. Mousinho de Ataide, Lecturer in Theology, Rachol Seminary and leader of Catholics For Devanagri and 5. Miguel Braganza, Freelance Editor, Columnist and Social commentator. The issues discussed include 1.Why the script controversy? 2. Language v/s script 3 Language v/s Medium of instruction 4. Official language v/s Mother tongue. 5. Unity of people v/s single script. 6. What will happen if dual script is accepted. 7. Is the Official Language Act, 1987, Acts sacrosanct like the ancientLand Aquisition Act, 1894 or can it be amended like the TCP Act, 1975? 8. Should the Official Gazette of Goa be published in its sole Official language or not? The Member-Secretary of GKA is a Goa Public Service cadre officer and one member is ex-officio President of Akhil Bharatiya Konkani Parishad. The other five members will be selected from among the various Konkani organisations and individuals. Mog asundi Miguel Also read my article has appeared in the GT on 02 January, 2009, and Mr. Vincy Quadros's clarifictaion in the Letters to the Editor of GT dated 03 January, 2009 Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[Goanet] Conception of GX
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, They say politicians thrive because public memory is short. However, in the era of internet archives, a computer literate, internet savvy oncologist has no excuse to pretend he has not been there, done that withoout the risk of being exposed by another doctor. The only occasions we hear about intelligence failure is after terrorist attacks that leave the Police looking like Poppycock. If intelligent Goans are not supposed to be on GX, what was the currently bouncing baby doing there in the past? Temporary Intelligence failure ...like the power failures of all types in native Goa? Do not try special FX, doc. This thing, that you are trying to forget as a one-off fling, is the GX . Mog asundi Miguel Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:00:40 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Conception of GX Message-ID: 409105.75759...@web110303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: If what Melvyn writes is true (and I have no reason to doubt), why are intelligent Goans on GX?? By definition, the purpose of GX is to display the power of poppycock. Gilbert is a long-standing member of GX, albeit lately his email address has been bouncing. The GX forum was conceived by the hetero-mental intercourse of two Goanetters, consummated in a public cybersuite opened by me, courtesy Yahoo. The idea behind it was to not let thoughtful and/or entertaining products of sound and creative minds be aborted into the sinkhole of cyberspace by the moderating midwives of other forums, a moral transgression that Gilbert and others have unfortunately advocated for this forum. Of course, we do not practice eugenics. So the progeny of unsound and uncreative minds are also welcome on GX. Icons can be dressed up or undressed, idols worshiped or smashed, and minds converted or reconverted. Overdose, dependency, faithlessness, intolerance and contempt are handled with unmoderated compassion. Cheers, Santosh Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Vasco terrorists transferred
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, The good news on New Year's eve [in print on New Year's Day] is that Deputy Superintendent of Police Deu Banaulikar and Police Inspector of Vasco Harish Madkaikar were transferred to the barracks of Goa Reserve Police [GRP] in Panaji. The Citizens Initiative for Communal Harmony, the Women's organisations and the Muslim leaders in goa, including Congressman Mulla Akbar, did well to dig in their heels and insist on disciplinary action while accepting the apology of the Dy. S.P. in the presence of the South Goa Member of Parliament, Francisco Sardinha. Forgiveness with restitution for the crime. Further action by the Government to suspend the duo, make a red ink entry in their service records and to withhold increment at least for one year is needed to discipline the Police force. No lessons have been learnt from the illicit raid on Babush Monserrate's house by the Police on 19 February, 2008, and the subsequent transfer of Dy. S.P. Mohum Nai and PI Naik to GRP. Had they been disciplined effectively, the illicit raid on the Madrassa on 17 December, 2008 [10 months later] would not have taken place. Imagine the terror inflicted on 9 to 17 year old girls, many of them orphans, when they were hauled to the Police station by all male cops and detained for three hours. The policemen ought to be prosecuted under Section 8 (1) of the Goa Children's Act, 2003, for simple sexual assault not amounting to rape. In the meanwhile the alleged terror suspect, the 17 year old Safiqul from Assam has been released by the Goa Police and sent to Apna ghar for the destitute. The Goa Police may be STRESSED but they are getting its mirror image, just DESSERTS. Mog asundi Miguel PS If you really want to laugh, read Cecil Pinto's take [in GT of New Year] on the Goa Police guidelines on how to detect a terrorist! ;-) Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
Re: [Goanet] Loud Music Noise Pollution ... and Control
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, When one cackles loudly everytime one lays an egg ...and sounds as if one has laid to rest the queen of Pakistani by floral jihad one is bound to be noticed! ;-) Happy New Year Mog asundi Miguel Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:13:45 +0530 From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Loud Music Noise Pollution ... and Control Message-ID: 7a0126daf58a4e77b3098a0b99ab8...@home Miguel Branganza seems to know a lot of what Floriano Lobo does and does not do :-)) Happy New Year floriano From: Miguel Braganza braganza.mig...@gmail.com Floriano Lobo is doing a good job at monitoring the noise pollution in the shacks. Apparently the local citizens in Candolim had no support from him when it came to SUNBURN festival 27 to 29 December, 2008, i.e. during the same period. It is a crime to be poor. Miguel -- Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
[Goanet] Dr Barad doctors news reports for Goanet.
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Dears, One of the readers of Goanet sent me, and a few others, a message that reads thus [edited to conceal identity of the person]. The points it raises are worth deep consideration. Dr. U.G. Barad is a smooth customer who even had Floriano Lobo thinking he was the brain behind the ephemeral CITIZENS of Goa INITIATIVE that debated the Goa University's proposed CONVERSION to a Central University ...and stalled it. . I wonder why Dr. Barad needs to insert his own words and phrases in a news report or, rather, a clever posting disguised as a news report. For example in his recent post he has given a weblink to a news report http://www.indianex press.com/ news/net- closes-in- on-cong-mp- for-orissa- swamis-murder/ 403507/ He then proceeds to copy paste what appears to be a news report but mischiveously inserts phrases like : He writes In Kandhamal, he is known as the protector of churches and Christians. - the news report doesn't say anything about this He adds 30-odd Christian assailants when the news report does not mention the word Christian He writes Fanatic Christian Congress Rajya Sabha . The report says just Congress MP The report states and Christians were targeted in Kandhamal and adjoining districts. Dr. Barad has censors this part out The phraseThe people of the State is inserted in place of sangh parivar I am sure there must be many more such cut paste and insert jobs..i wonder why Barad should resort to this when the truth itself is enough...more importantly I am not sure if Dr. Barad is the only one doing this kind of cut paste job. Mog asundi Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] .... has never been communal
Dear Marshall, My reference was specific to the affidavit on the asthi of Swami Laxmananda. Others who were killed [by Maoists or otherwise] with him were cremated and therefore an Asthi Kalash Yatra is possible ... but NOT with the Swami's asthi. People do not get Ph. Ds and other doctor degrees for being stupid. After the 02 June, 2007 Assembly election results, Manohar Parrikar said that the BJP will not attempt to form the Govt. because the people of Goa had not given the BJP a clear mandate. He never said the BJP would not try to topple the Congress-led coalition Govt. The first attempt came in July, 2007. Re-read the whole stuff. One has to read these guys between the lines. Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:27:32 +0530 From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] has never been communal Message-ID: ac8096120812280257wcafb3d8p90c734f042905...@mail.gmail.com Miguel Braganza: the concerned Bishop in Orissa even swore a affidavit wrongly stating that VHP leader Dr. Pravin Togadia had threatened an Asti Kalash procession when the most Indians know that swamis are buried. Response: Miguel appears to have been carried away with his eloquence. Extract: Togadia said the *yatra *will go on. *The body of Swamiji was not cremated. His was a samadhi and he was buried. So claims of the asthi-kalash yatra are not true*. However, we will condole his death with a *yatra *across the state, he said, Togadia, unknowing the implication has announced the Asti Kalash Yatra and hence Cheenath has tried his best to stop the yatra and he appears to have succeeded, as today news reportshttp://compreligion.sulekha.com/FCKeditor_2.4.3/fckeditor/editor/fckeditor.html?InstanceName=txtDescare coming that the yatra would not be allowed. http://brahmallahchrist.indiainteracts.com/2008/09/05/%E2%80%9Cswami-lakshmanananda-saraswati-was-no-saint%E2%80%9D-what-is-the-vatican%E2%80%99s-role-in-it/ http://www.dmanewsdesk.com/Business_news-1-20l.html Regards, Marshall When I refered to the meaning of Samir's surname in Konkani, it was Rejected by the Goanet Moderator as being foul, abusive and inappropriate or whatever. Now Samir threatens to post my foul worded private emails to him on the Goanet! ;-) Good try. May be it will slip through. Otherwise well-balanced persons do trip on banana skins ... sometimes! Mog asundi Miguel -- Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [Goanet] God Sucks
Dears, The latest news is that former KGB Spy-turned- President-turned-PM, Vladamir Putin, is trying to make the former President of USSR, Joseph Stalin the GREATEST RUSSIAN in History. That is the latest story. I would toast to that with a Molotov cocktail, one of the concoctions of Russia during Stalin's life and times as an Atheist. K. Karunanidhi was enamoured with Stalin enough to name his son and successor as Stalin. Stalin was a very effective ruler: not for nothing is the multi-barrel artillery piece known as Stalin's organ. He likes its tunes ...and the cries of the prisoners he sent to Siberia for winter holidays! I do not know if they still have badminton courts in Siberia. ;-) Frederick has put religion in a wonderful perspective : knife or a dagger! Last month we were discussing if tobacco should be grown as an organic crop. We all know that Tobacco is a killer. The question that settled the issed was: Does it matter if the knife used to kill was made of food-grade, aseptic, sterilised, stainless steel or of rusty iron? If one was using the knife to cut food stuff, it is a different issue. Mog asundi Miguel Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:52:49 +0530 From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] God Sucks Message-ID: 8ea78e010812280922r5dc814a7sa3d6edbfb9253...@mail.gmail.com Can I rephrase the questions below... one could understand different things: 2008/12/28 Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com 1. Has the knife benefitted humanity or has it harmed humanity? 2. Is the knife, in its present form, good or bad? 3. Should the design of the knife be improved, or does it need to be discarded altogether? 4. Is the knife a regressive concept or is it a progressive one? :-) FN -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net Message-ID: 574032.27276...@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com Samir's God sucks was not an oxymoron; simply a gratuitous, moronic and vicious insult with no mitigating factors, and Sandeep's presumption in trying to defend this indefensible insult confusing presumption with logic is like putting lipstick on a pig and optimistically entering it in a beauty pageant. To add insult to injury, Samir and Sandeep then went on to claim tolerance as an atheist trait, and blame intolerance, death and destruction in the world on religion whereas some of the worst evildoers in history have been atheists, which they conveniently failed to mention until reminded. Besides, initiating and making excuses for the concept of God sucks is itself an example of intolerance. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Sunburn?
If anybody violates the Madhya Pradesh Sound and Noise Act as extended to Goa, the equipment is siezed and the show is put out of action. The organisers of Sunburn are NOT anybody! If you disbelieve me, file an RTI and find out what happened in the office of the Superintendent of Police North, SDPO-Dy S.P.Porvorim, Dy S.P. Traffic, DM and District Collector-North and SDM-Bardez who were the actors on stage. The script writers, producers, directors and choreographers are hidden from view to avoid Sunburn. It appears to be a case of legal extortion, stopping the show on Sunday evening and getting a deposit of Rs.1.00 lakh on Monday morning only to let the show go on! Mog asundi Miguel ... Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:22:29 +0530 From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org Subject: [Goanet] Sunburn? To:goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: 8ea78e010812291052w6ee2381pbd7c9cb6d6b86...@mail.gmail.com Sunburn - noun, verb, adjective - The terrorist act of illegally imposing your loud, disgusting and obnoxious computerized music on peace-loving people with blatant disregard for the law. - Source -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] GX (was: God....)
Dear Dr. Santosh, I dare say that the debate on God sucks ...the Darker side is much more dignified on GX than on the lighter side on Goanet. I have already posted my comments on GX. think I am one of the original members on GX ;-) Sandeep Heble is welcome there. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:33:34 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] GX (was: God) Message-ID: 237009.69334...@web110315.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Both Sandeep and Miguel are subscribed to GX. They are welcome to carry on this debate there. Cheers, Santosh Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/win/
Re: [Goanet] God sucks
Dears, What the Goanet Moderators or whatever goes by the name of Goanet Admin need to state whether God or Suck are Goa-centric ...or whether we are becoming what Rajan Narayan calls Goa nutters or Inter-nutters. Sandeep Heble is subscribed to GX. I think Floriano Lobo , too. Others are welcome .unless we want to make Goanet a bootleg GX !! Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:25 +0530 From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] God sucks Message-ID: 3cfdd79caa9749b78d694c0d86e75...@home Hi, Does 'GOD' exists, if at all. How does one go about proving or testing the above? Any brainwaves? floriano - Original Message - From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com 4. Is God a regressive concept or is it a progressive one? Cheers Sandeep Mario writes: Perhaps you have misunderstood how a forum works. Samir gets to say whatever he wants. Others then get to say whatever they want. - -- From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/citygroups/
[Goanet] .... has never been communal
Dear Dr. U.G. Barad, I am with you on this one. Dr. Samir Kelekar seems to have been wrongly certified secular by Dr. Selma Carvalho, a communal practitioner herself. The Khandhamal-Orissa issue is more about the fight for the ST tag by a SC community that has converted to Christianity and lost reservations[for education, jobs, etc], than about religion per se. No one said Christian life was easy. Its founder was crucified at age 33 years. In his current state, Dr. Samir Kelekar would have been spared even in Saudi Arabia from flogging on grounds of health, mental and physical. No question of spiritual health in self-proclaimed atheists. Much as one would have liked it otherwise, the concerned Bishop in Orissa even swore a affidavit wrongly stating that VHP leader Dr. Pravin Togadia had threatened an Asti Kalash procession when the most Indians know that swamis are buried. The affidavit in the SC has not been withdrawn. Togadia has the legal and moral high ground. The lie, even if out of virtuous ecstasy as in case of Selma, remains on record. Unlike the Good Shepherd of the Bible, the Bishop has left his sheep to the wolves in Orissa and protected himself in the National Capital territory. Bishop Aldo Camara's example is not for him. Many Catholics are not really CHRISTians; they would rather crucify a Simon, the Cyrene. In the spirit of CHRISTmas. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:19:52 +0530 From: Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] has never been communal Message-ID: 49535748.044e6e0a.40a6.5...@mx.google.com Dear Goanet Members, I pray to Lord Jesus, on this 25th December 2008, to bless the writer of the message (reference provided here below) for She does not Know what she waswriting is writing. One can check all her writings to Goanet as of date. Dr. U. G. Barad 24 Dec 2008 From: Selma Carvalho, Subject: Samir has never been communal Dear members, I'm one of those people who has a very long memory on Goanet. Infact I pride myself on my memory. Let us not cruxify someone because we feel like it. He has the right to voice his opinion, however averse we maybe to that opinion. Selma Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [Goanet] Samir has never been communal
Dear Dr. Jose Colaco, I tried your prescription of cold water and cold shower, but the comment still sucks. ;-) Believing that your paediatric prescription to be for kids, I tried it with a Bloody Mary and cold shower and ... oh God! it still sucks. May be I should try some alternate medicine. ;-) I have to pay 'multa' on Frederick's birthday wishes. They are already a day late this year. May he have many more happier ones to come. this Boxing Day we were still sparring about the subtle differences between a theism and atheism .and the calibrated nuances thereof because of this thread. I also received support from unexpected quarters on how to deal with Dotor Samir. ;-) Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:19:36 -0500 From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com Message-ID: 493963b50812260119h6f3b6f9dy52669e0b8f2b6...@mail.gmail.com jc's comments: 5: Whoever has been upset with the suck comment has excessive exotic imagination. 6: A tall glass of water and a cold shower is recommended for a 'chill out'. BTW: May I wish Frederick Noronha Ad Multos Annos jc -- Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Edna Vaz Krupali Naik
Dear Venantius, Goa Government cares not for the poor. whether it is Edna Vaz Krupali Naik or a 55 year old married woman gang-raped on the beach. How else does one these acts this week: 1. There is a security alert and the Goa Police [Tourist Police, Coastal Police,Goa Reserve Police, and India Reserve Battalion], the Coast Guard and Navy are keeping the beach front under surveillance. In spite of all this a 55 year old woman, married, Goan, local resident flower seller is found at 7.30 A.M. by fishermen who informed the police about the woman: stark nude, allegedly gang-raped, bleeding and unconscious on Arambol/Harmal beach in Pernem taluka on 26 December,2008 morning. If gang-rape goes unnoticed, would the Goa Police detect a terrorist in black clothing slinking in the shadows with his AK-47 and RDX in a back-pack? Navhind Times carries the report on page 5 in three columns,GT on page 3 in single column 10 cm, Herald has it on the front page but in single column 8 cm and as far as the ToI is concerned it is fit only for a brief mention in the News Digest. This is a 55 year old local woman, not a sexy 14 year old foreigner like Scarlet Keeling or the daughter of the German Mother!! In the meanwhile, Adv. Aires Rodrigues has resigned from the self designated post of Spokesman of the Utth Goenkara ... but not before putting a spanner in its works, at alleging being back stabbed to boot. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:55:40 -0500 From: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Edna Vaz Krupali Naik Message-ID: bf202eb20812251755s68d7c044rffce9e458f7bc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 These are the kind of issues that any and all oppositions should get involved in. It builds street credibility. What spiritual or sexual high are these guys achieving with their lootmal. So respect the child, even if they may come from obnoxious parents, who may not have the right consumerist values, or practices a religion that one may not want to relate to. the Bailancho Saad, on December 23, demanded immediate suspension of inter-state licence of Sameera Travels. Speaking to reporters in the presence of the two girls, who were asked to alight from the Pune-Goa bus despite holding confirmed tickets, Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad said the act of leaving the hapless girls at a lonely lace in the middle of the night was shocking. [GT] See Goaclips 1000 as inserted in my opinionated views above Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Goanet] God sucks
Dear Sandeep, Thank you for the praise showered on me. Please consider the possibility that I be entirely unworthy of such praise. Steven Weinberg is not subscribed to Goanet and hence not bound by its rules. You are, and so is Samir Kelekar, Ph.D. Abuse is forbidden on Goanet ... or so we are told. As a figure of speech, God sucks is not an oxymoron. To an atheist God does not exist, conceptually or actually. Can the non-existent suck whatever or in whichever way? Do atheists [I do not know if you are one of them] believe that god is some sort of vacuum or low pressure condition that sucks? I have known atheists like Flaviano Dias who believes in castes and is proud to be of the Kshatriya Desai stock from Cuncolim or Kunkoli or like my friend Frederick who has had a canonical marriage. So what form of confused atheism, if any, are you? Sandeep, please do not try to misappropriate INDIAN MYTHOLOGY to the HINDU way of life [Sociology does not accept Hinduism as a Religion as it had no Founder and no single accepted text. Besides, the Shaivites and the Vaishnavites do not actually believe in the same god or same temporal leaders]. I am an Indian, and Indian mythology is as much mine as of any other Indian ... like the myth of the Loch Ness monster belongs to all Scots! ;-) And just why are YOU tryuing to explain what Samir meant? Are you his alter ego?? Sweetheart, Samir is subscribed to this list. Let him defend himself like a man or a wimp or whatever!! Join Secular Goa or Goa Research Net if you want to debate religion and atheism. The Goanet is supposed to discuss GOA-CENTRIC issues, if I remember right. If no list entertains it ad nauseam, subscribe to the unmoderated Goenchim Xapotam. Save Goanet from becoming another GX, since the Moderators obviously lack the will do prevent this. I will try as long as I am subscribed. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:11:10 +0530 From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] God sucks Message-ID: c4b331630812270241u7274ed2ax85597663edf2f...@mail.gmail.com As a writer who has liberally played around with Hindu terms, concepts and ideas, I had expected a lot better of Miguel but sadly he too disappoints on this issue. If Miguel had read my post correctly, he would have figured out what I was trying to convey by using the term oxymoron. That an Atheist saying God sucks was self-contradictory. Hence, Samir meant the concept of God and not God. But sadly, a writer like him does not try to figure out the context of either Samir's post or mine. Like the Nobel Laureate physicist Steven Weinberg who wrote and I quote: Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. In this forum, you may hear a lot of things that you would not like to. Let this discussion therefore be a progressive one rather than a negative one. After all, it is science and humanism values that have built this World, not religion. Cheers Sandeep Miguel Braganza wrote on Goanet: OXYMORON is putting together words which seem to contradict each other according to the OXFORD dictionary. Bitter-sweet is one example. I do not know if God Sucks qualifies as an oxymoron. --- Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Why God sucks --- a good discussion
Dears, Frederick wrote: I guess if this was a perfect world, even the most devout theist would agree that there would have not been any need for a Christ to be born two millenia ago. Samir endorsed the view that god sucks. He knows because he has experienced it! Christmas day is an appropriate ocassion to discuss if Christ sucks as good as any other god. In the interest of free debate, it would be interesting to know if: 1. Dr. Samir Kelekar would be interested in debating a godly suck during Shivratri or Navratri or any other occasion of phallic worship including festival at Kavlem and 2. Whether Fredrick would like to discuss religion in the context of the need for nuptial rites or canonical marriage for a proclaimed atheist. We could also discuss whether the Original Sin is as water soluble as all the paap of the pagans and hence washed away by the baptisimal water poured on an unsuspecting child at the behest of the parents. At least the pagans consciously immerse themselves in the polluted rivers after attaining the so-calle age of reason Or is that getting too personal for a person who believes in the persona of God ... who is not another needle prick? We are all grown up men and women. So let us discuss this topic dispassionately through the year 2008 and into 2009. Iconoclasm is an intrinsic atheist philosophy ... till one's own icons get shattered. ;-( Let the discussion go on. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:09:44 +0530 From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha f...@goa-india.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Why God sucks --- a good discussion Message-ID: 8ea78e010812241439l60b665c2l83dfa38434efc...@mail.gmail.com I think Samir was testing your spirit of Christian tolerance :-) which doesn't seem to run too deep in some cases anyway! 2008/12/24 Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=3176 There is a good discussion on both pro and cons of why God sucks. regards, Samir I guess if this was a perfect world, even the most devout theist would agree that there would have not been any need for a Christ to be born two millenia ago. Btw, what is the meaning of 'sucks'? Its connotations seem to vary: http://www.slate.com/id/2146866/ slang : to be objectionable or inadequate our lifestyle sucks ? Playboy people who went said it sucked ? H. S. Thompson http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suck Vulgar Slang To be disgustingly disagreeable or offensive. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Sucks So, do you still feel Samir's use of language (and attitude) sucks? FN -- Get an email ID as yourn...@ymail.com or yourn...@rocketmail.com. Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines!
Dears, Lee Iacocca has this to say: If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a Call to Action for people who, like me, believe in America'. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had 'enough.' One could echo those words in goa. Read the text below obtained from another Goan network. Mog asundi Miguel - - WHERE HAVE ALL THE LEADERS GONE? Remember *Lee Iacocca*, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years old and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'. Lee Iacocca Says: 'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course.' Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!' You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore. The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the 'America' my parents and yours travelled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you? I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.) Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down. On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand. We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia, while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every which way. These are times that cry out for leadership. But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point. Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened. Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time. Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it? Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry. I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with
[Goanet] God sucks
Dears, I did a double check to find out if an OXYMORON was an abbreviated form of oxygenated moron breathing fresh air of a party-less, fireworks-less, odour-less and taste-less beach in Goa this Christmas thanks to the Congress Party ...till the Sunburn Fest today, on the beach but not a beach party for the purpose of the licence to operate!! The Congress party does not party. That is another OXYMORON. OXYMORON is putting together words which seem to contradict each other according to the OXFORD dictionary. Bitter-sweet is one example. Congress Party is another this Christmas. I do not know if God Sucks qualifies as an oxymoron with so many perpetual suckers around. Is Sandeep Heble promising to bring perpetual succour to someone felled by a sucker punch ...specially to someone like the right riband Dr. Samir Kelekar, Ph. D [of the Dayanand's IT Corp of Goa fame] who seems to be drunk on a non-alcohilic fruit punch ...perhaps one that got fermented before he drank it. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:17:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Goanet] God sucks To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: 650202.49352...@web82404.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:24:47 +0530 From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com Samir's post, if read literally, will be a kind of an oxymoron, Mario responds: Now, now, Sandeep. There's no need to start responding to Samir's gratuitous insulting post by calling him names:-)) Sandeep wrote: What I presume he means, Mario responds: Nice try, Sandeep. After calling him some kind of moron, now you want to make up presumptions out of whole cloth to get him off the hook:-)) Sandeep wrote: Samir's thoughts are not too fundamentally different from those of some extreme religious believers, who too believe that God sucks. That is except the God that they believe in! Mario responds: There you go again, Sandeep, now comparing Samir to some intolerant religious fanatics ...who too believe that God sucks... However, on second thought, you may be right in this observation:-)) Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Politicians, please mind your Language!
Dears, Reproduced below is the text of my letter sent to Editors of local newspapers last night. This is an issue that will soon come to the fore. People have begun to see behind the smiling facade as the shack owners have seen behind the idea of the ban on beach parties ...while permitting the Starred resorts to have their parties on the lawns overlooking the sea. One starred hotel already hosted a beach party at Mobor beach on the very first day of the ban ...23 December, 2008, as per newspaper reports today. The Officials say they have either not given permission or that they are not aware of the beach party. Passing the buck and The buck stops here have different connotations in Goa. What one saw in Patradevi also happens elsewhere in Goa, even in the name of the official language, allegedly Konkani, ...in which no law is available today in the entire state of Goa! Mog asundi Miguel --- On Tue, 23/12/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Subject: Politicians, please mind your Language! To: TARUN BHARAT taru...@rediffmail.com, GOMANTAK newsd...@dainikgomantak.com, NAVPRABHA navpra...@navhindtimes.com, GOADOOT goad...@rediffmail.com, PUDHARI mitra_main...@rediffmail.com, Navhind Times navh...@navhindtimes.com, Ashwin Tombat edi...@herald-goa.com, Editor GT gtedi...@gmail.com, Date: Tuesday, 23 December, 2008, 9:09 AM Dear Editor, On 20 December, 1986, a 20 year old boy risked his life for his mother tongue, Konkani. He lost it. He was shot dead by the arm of the state through the barrel of a .303 Lee Enfield bolt-action rifle. The rifle is a relic of the British raj. So is our Government that is 'democratic' only in name. The boy was Florian Vaz from Gogol-Margao. Less than two months later, Konkani was recognized as the OFFICIAL LANGUAGE of Goa, Daman Diu. Dr. ManoharRai SarDessai wrote a poem entitled Otthra Jun dedicated to the satyagraha led by Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia against autocratic colonial rule. It has been translated and published in many languages. The satyagraha was in Margao, not too far away from where Florian died. Kitle aile ghele Otthra Jun! Ambea-mullant Kuddkuddta Gawddea-por ozun. The mango trees are beginning to flower in Goa, but Floriano who would be 42 years old this year is beyond trembling. Unlike Pandurang Madkaikar, Gawddi, Kunbi and Velip persons like the thirty five year old Dument D' Souza and a older Rama Lavu Velip in Colomb do not tremble even in the face of armed police sent to arrest them. Let us face the Truth. Tremble is what our so-called stalwarts like NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro, MP Francisco Sardinha, PWD Minister Churchill Alemao, Deputy Speaker Mauvin Godinho, Ministers Mickky Pacheco, Felipe Neri Rodrigues, former Speaker Tomazinho Cardoz as well as former Chief Ministers like Dr. Wilfred deSouza and Luizinho Faleiro are do when called by their Mother Tongue to do what must be done to protect her. They are unable to even articulate the demand for the post of President of Goa Konkani Akademi [GKA], lying vacant since end of October, 2008, to be given to a protagonist of Konkani in the Roman script. Mr. Eric Ozario of Mandd Sobann is derided as a Mangalorean by some persons in Goa, instead of taking pride in the fact that he has put Konkani in the Guinness Book of Records on the Republic Day of India in 2007. He had articulated it so well the need and the opportunity to have a Romi lipi protagonist to head the GKA. He was speaking at the second anniversary of JIVIT at MMC hall in Margao, in the presence of the CM and Deputy Speaker, besides the former Speaker and others. No mention was made of it at the 1st Konkani Literary and Cultural Convention or its resolutions last Sunday. The DKA President says it skipped their mind in the process of collating the resolutions. I have no reason to disbelieve him. Perhaps, the Goa Government funding choked the words before they emerged from their throats. There is a simple rule for 'good manners'. It says, Never talk when your mouth is full. We are all good mannered. Therein lies our weakness and our strength. It is time the so-called leaders of the Konkani movement learn to speak their language and articulate their demands coherently. They need to evangelize instead of trying to convert the converted through meaningless rhetoric. If they cannot get the post of the GKA President for one of their kind, they should stop talking of amending the Official Language Act, 1987, to include Romi lipi. Why talk of conquering the peak Mount Everest when one cannot even reach the Secretariat at Penha de France to plant one's flag. Save Goa 'Front'was allegedly merged behind everyone's back and even its Vice-President knew it not, and refuses to accept even now! Time to stop talking and start doing. If they cannot do that, they should step down from their pedestals, wake up and smell
[Goanet] Will someone ask Manohar Parrikar what is his stand
Dear Albertina, Perhaps you have not read the Sakal's Gomantak Times this morning. For, if you did, you could not have missed the smiling face of Shri Manohar Parrikar and his Bhandari alter-ego, Shripad Naik on a colour facsmile of the audio CD titled Khuxal Bhorit Natalam. The songs are jingle bells all the way to the polling boooth for the upcoming Lok Sabha elections! If the BJP Goa State Cultural Cell is distributing free Christmas carols in KONKANI [title written in ROMAN SCRIPT on the cover], then Christianity, or at least Catholicism, is part of the BJP culture. there is no disclaimer like E. O.E. on the bills to say VHP and RSS, excluding. If Christmas carols are good for Parikar, they are good for Satish Dhond, Subhash Velinkar, Subhash Salkar and the rest. You can still write to him at manohar.parri...@rediffmail.com for confirmation. A lawyer may be better than a journalist for such matters. ;-) Mog asundi Miguel PS Did someone not tell you that Shri L. K. Advani commanded the BJP folks in Orissa to celebrate their bandh elsewhere or on another day. Raping nuns and killing Christians on Christmas day may freeze all the fund flows from USA that keep their spunk flowing. It was tough enough to defend Sonal Shah's connections that popped up when you Googled her name and she is now in Obama HUSSAIN Barack's cabinet!! I was in Bhubaneshwar those days. The newspaers changed their tone on the front pages like a Red litmus paper turns Blue when it touches an Alkali. Money [as in funds] has a strange alchemy. Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:05:49 +0530 From: Albertina Almeida albertina.alme...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Will someone ask Manohar Parrikar what is his stand onwhat his party colleague in Orissa has said on the floor ofthe Orissa Assembly? Message-ID: 8910baf2081135n4b99de48h18ad02f99b3e3...@mail.gmail.com BJP legislator Mahesh Sahu is reported to have remarked on the floor of the Orissa Assembly that those who felt apprehensive could go to Italy, Australia or Kerala to celebrate Christmas.(see news item from Indian Express of 19th December below). Will someone (ideally journos) ask Manohar Parrikar what is his stand on what his party colleague in Orissa has said on the floor of the Orissa Assembly? Will he state whether that is the BJP's party line or whether the party is disowning that MLA and if so what is the party's action against that MLA? albertina http://www.indianexpress.com/news/tension-in-kandhamal-as-christian-leader-kidnapped/400298/ Tension in Kandhamal as Christian leader kidnapped Bhubaneswar: The alleged kidnapping may worsen the situation in Kandhamal as it comes a week before the December 25 Orissa bandh called by Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati Shraddhanjali Samiti to protest police inaction in arresting Saraswati's killers. Though the BJP is yet to take an official stand on whether to support the bandh or not, the party is readying for a face-off with the BJD over the bandh. BJP legislator Mahesh Sahu created a flutter in the Assembly when he remarked that those who felt apprehensive could go to Italy, Australia or Kerala to celebrate Christmas. Worried over the bandh call, the Government has deployed 45 companies of the CRPF and sealed the district borders. -- (M) 9326137682 Every flower must grow through dirt. -- Anonymous Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Star Hotels v/s Shacks: Turf battle with a biased umpiring from Govt., media and Church in Goa ?
in the November attack, returned to work on Sunday. Karambir Kang is back to work today,'' an Indian Hotels Spokesperson said on Sunday. Kang's wife Nitti, 38, and two sons, Samar, 14, and Uday, 5, who were put up at the sixth floor of the heritage wing of the Taj, were killed in the 26/11 attack. Cabinet nod to new panel for probing judges 9 Oct 2008, 1037 hrs IST, TNN NEW DELHI: At its meeting chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, the Cabinet decided to introduce the Judges (Inquiry) Amendment Bill, 2008 in Parliament. It also decided to withdraw the Judges (Inquiry) Bill, 2006 introduced in the Lok Sabha on December 19, 2006, finance The provisions of the new bill will bring transparency in the functioning of the judiciary and will also enhance its prestige, Chidambaram said. The panel will decide on the penalties on erring judges and judges alone will be members of the council, he added. State to acquire 300 AK 56 rifles NT 12 December, 2008 MARGAO The Home Minister, Mr Ravi Naik on Thursday said that the state will purchase 300 AK 56 rifles at the cost of Rs 34 crore to boost security in the state. He said that the state is also in the process of preparing two company forces in view of the terror threat to the state and added the state is ready to meet any eventuality. Mr Naik who was in South Goa to review the security arrangement following the terror attack in Mumbai held a meeting with over 154 police officials which included the head constables of beat groups from 8 divisions, 15 ASI, 27 PIs, 3 DySPs and the Superintendent of Police, South Goa, Mr Allan D'Sa. Mr Naik said that the country faces the danger of terror attacks and we need to remain alert. He said that the coast guard, police and the Navy are alert and are ready to handle any situation. He also said that directions have been issued to the beat groups to check every household and verify the details pertaining to family members. He also said that he has sought a detailed report on crimes. With regard to the cases of desecration of religious places in the state, he said security would be provided to temples, churches and mosques. The Home Minister also added that a periodical check-up would be undertaken for police officials above the age of 40 years and asked the police to act tough on gambling, drugs smuggling and anti-social elements. Sending a strong message across, Mr Naik said that the law is equal for all and that no political interference will be tolerated. He also warned the police of patronising the political godfathers and said that they should be ready for transfers at any time. He also said that he will hold a similar meeting in Panaji on Friday and will have a similar review from time to time. The meeting was attended by top police officers. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Govt. sponsorred terror on the common man: Our politicians are still not listening
Dears The terrorists attacked the Taj and Trident hotels in Mumbai. Both these hotels are back in business in Mumbai. Their sister hotels will continue to be in business in Goa. The terrorists did not attack Chowpatty or Juhu beaches in Mumbai.These beaches will see life this season while Goa's beaches will be deserted. All this is possibly only due to POLICE INTELLIGENCE. What a paradox that is?? A Moidekar or Benaulekar would have done a better job at the helm of our Administration and Police but we have to make do with Sardarjis becuase Goa University syllabus and Goan attt The Government of Goa seems to have a distinct preference to the rich. The banning of the beach parties between 23 December, 2008, and 5 January next are a case in point. The sudden removal of the by now traditional food stalls at Miramar circle after an elite Club set up a restaurant is another. Whether the mechanism used is a court, executive order or the almost non-existent police intelligence, is another matter. Of course, the Government has a vested interest. The establishments of the rich may Luxury, Service, Excise and other taxes from amounts they earn from the corporate sector junkets and other sources. In addition to the statutory ETP or STP, the hotels of the rich also have the mandatory slush funds needed to survive in big business. These are facts of life that every businessman or woman who has survived in business knows. It is as much a part of the growing up process as the clandestine sex education. The best business practices are not taught in the B-schools and I am yet to find a person who has learnt to make love through the course content of some professional college. One lives to learn, often the hard way if one is poor or not so rich in an affluent place like Goa withthe per capita income bloated by those who sell the very entrails of Goa in the form of iron ore. The terrorists attacked the Taj and Trident hotels in Mumbai. Both these hotels are back in business in Mumbai. Their sister hotels will continue to be in business in Goa. If there were fears that their business would face a slump due to poor tourist arrivals, they were misplaced. Big Brothers Government of Goa and the Goa Administration are there at their service for a small fee, perhaps payable in kind as complimentary tickets to their shows and other facilities. Relatives and friends keep popping up this season, you see. With low occupancy levels this season, there is really no expense in giving a few roooms for free! With beach parties banned, the borderline cases will opt for the stars. The terrorists did not attack Chowpatty or Juhu beaches in Mumbai. These beaches will see life this season while Goa's beaches will be deserted. We are in the midst of a Global recession or economic melt-down [whatever that means], so the foreign tourists in Goa would normally head straight for the shacks from their rent-back bed-and-breakfast facilities. They are less fidalgo than the Gujarati babus and babes on a holiday, but otherwise accustomed to starred hotels in their native lands. If the beaches were not to be deserted the starred hotels would be. Therein lies the terror: the terror of losing mega bucks from foreign tourists to the poor shack owners... if they have the beach parties. They must be banned. The Government did just that. It is heartening to see the shack owners protesting. The media has a responsibility to support the Goan people, native or settler, struggling to earn a decent living through their shacks and gaddas, licenced and paid for. Mr. Cruz Cardozo and the Goa Shack Owners' Welfare Society [G-SOWS] will reap the fruit of their labour, if they persist and persevere in their demand for compensation if the Government is adamant on enforcing the ban. The villagers of Candolim have shown what can be done. The Government has brought in Police reinforcements to prevent a repetition of that success. It is clearly on the side of the mine owners. The Tatas are the pioneers in iron ore mines and steel units, in case it has skipped your mind. More and more mine owners have gone into hotel trade and now into casinos. If they can protect their Portuguese colonial Titulo de Concessao to mine ore in Goa with the support of the state and faking an Opinion Poll, they can also protect their hotel business and increase the number of casinos. It is the same story when it comes to the script for Konkani. Check who traditionally uses the Devanagri script and the Antruzi dialect and you will find all the answers you need. The Tiatr Akademi is another natok like the Opinion Poll for the gullible. Cough suppresants work only for some time. It is now time to cure the cold, together. Miguel Braganza -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa Goa 403507 Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. P.S. The news clippings below seem unreated
[Goanet] 'Goencho Avaz' Special hits the news stands
Dears, On the 22nd death anniversary of Florian Vaz, who was shot dead by the police in cold blood during the Konkani agitation, comes the good news of the release of yet another special issue of the annual GOENCHO AVAZ [begun and originally published as a daily newspaper by Fr. Freddy da Costa, founder President of the Dalgado Konkani Akademi] The Dalgado Konkani Akademi today remembered Floriano Vaz at the Pai Tiatirst Hall of the Ravindra Bhavan, Margao, in the presence of Margao MLA and Goa CM, Digamber Kamat. The current DKA President, Mr. Premanand Lotlikar, IPP of DKA, Tomazinho Cardoz and a large number of Konkani lovers were present. Dr. Tanaji Halarnkar, VP of GKA, Dr. Francisco Colaco, Yusuf Shaikh, Ashok Chodankar, Pandarinath Lotlikar, Daniel D'Souza, Shridhar Kamat, Jose Salvador Fernandes, Michael Gracias and others could be spotted in the audience, while Wilmix Sharon, Prince Jacob, Joe Rose and others performed on stage. Fr. Pratap Naik SJ delivered a keynote address that should open many doors ...and break down a few walls. He had a strong message against terrorism; language terrorism. Goencho Avaz also celebrates the vibrancy of Konkani written/printed in the Roman script. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Fausto Da Costa fau...@vsnl.net wrote: From: Fausto Da Costa fau...@vsnl.net Subject: 'Goencho Avaz' Special hits the news stands To: goanet@lists.goanet.org, joe...@gmail.com, Herald_Editorial edi...@herald-goa.com, Navhind Times_editorial navh...@navhindtimes.com, Gomantak Times edi...@gomantaktimes.com, goaworldto...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 6:53 PM Special Issue of Goencho Avaz hits the news stands The special issue of Goencho Avaz is out on the stands. Edited by the renowned journalist Julio D'Silva, this issue (published in English and Konkani in the Roman script) takes a critical look at the progress made by Goa ever since it attained Statehood with special articles on different aspects written by people involved in that particular field. Leader of Opposition Manohar Parrikar takes a critical look at the administration while Ex-Tourism Minister Matanhy Saldanha writes about the constant struggles of the traditional fishermen. Former Education Department Director Bonfilio da Cruz has written about the education system, Soter R. Barreto on Konkani language and Soter de Souza about the functioning of the Panchayats in Goa. Dr. Jorson Fernandes has written about the health care system in Goa, while Prakash Kamat has analysed the State's economy. Maria Lourdes Bravo da Costa takes a look at the changes in the Goan kitchen and Wilson Mazarello has written about the tiatr. Jaret de Silva's article covers the life of a seaman and Felix da Cruz comments on agriculture in the State. Besides there are articles in Roman Konkani by the stalwarts John Aguiar, Sudha Amonkar, Guadalupe Dias and Fausto V. Da Costa on various other topics, a short story by Tukaram Shet, and the prize winning articles at the competition organized by Fr. Freddy J da Costa Memorial Trust. This special issue brought out by Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa Memorial Trust is nominally priced at Rs. 15/- and is available at all the newspaper agents in Goa. For further details and to receive this copy through mail contact 9821228684. Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Churchill flogs a dead horse on Pai Tiatrist's birthday
Dears, The so-called Konkani stalwart, who is alleged to be solidly behind the movement for recognition of Konkani in the Roman script on par with Devanagri script in the state of Goa [as Devanagri is on par with Kannada script for education in the state of Karnataka], today flogged a dead horse by attacking the former Independent MLA of Margao and current Chairman of the Think Tank of the Congress party that is steadfastly denying recognition for Konkani even on par with Marathi. He could, however, not assure the protagonists of Roman script for Konkani that one among them would be made the President of the Goa Konkani Akademi. The grapevine has it that Mr. N. Shivdas has been cleared by the Ministry of Official Language for the post of GKA President. The stalwarts of Roman Script will be accommodated/rehabilitated in the yet-to-be-launched Tiatrist Akademi. This is the new Tiatok ...or natok of the tiatr!! In comparison, the audio CD of Christmas Carols entitled KHUXALBORIT NATALAM produced by Siddhanath Ulhas Buyao and distributed free at the 1st Konkani Literary Cultural Convention by the State Culture Cell was much more useful. I am listening to the lilting songs on Christmas and the sacrifice at Calvary on the CD ...courtesy Bharatiya Janata Party to which Siddhanath now belongs after quitting as the Founder-President of the SAVE GOA FRONT. The SGF is like a NO Ball in cricket ... hai bhi, nahin bhi ...and the over is far from over with a no ball, just like SGF at Pale constituency! The announcement by the Doordarshan [will someone show our gutless politicians the door, please?] is still better for Konkani ...and will last for many a Christmas and New Year. QUOTE Mr Lalli, in his welcome address said the additional facilities will include state-of-the-art studio with full camera sets, switches and digital technology, which would be very beneficial for drama, live shows, dances and so on.We will also try to fulfil the long pending demand of the state to have a Konkani news bulletin, he added. UNQUOTE http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008122014 Mog asundi Miguel Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
Re: [Goanet] Britto's OBA Xmas dance.
Dears, We can finally announce the good news BRITTO'S OBA XMAS BALL 2008 25 December, 2008 is on the schedule Goanetters and BMXers are specially welcome to join this family type celebration After many flip-flops and saumersaults, the Government of Goa has finally decided to allow dances. We organised the dance last year. 365 days later it is a tradition!! The bands in attendance are: CASCADES ALCATRAZ CRIMSON TIDE Sound by BOB Raul, Gaunsavaddo- Mapusa Mood Setter: UPDESH SWAR Venue: ALVA MAR, Parra-Saligao Road Dress: STRICTLY FORMAL. The event is scheduled to start at 8 P.M. Please come latest by 9.00 P.M. Look out for advertisements in the HERALD newspaper, our Media partner. there is one advertisement at the bottom of page 15 today, 21 December, 2008. Please collect your Entry Passes from 1. Michael Carrasco at Appetite/Vodafone[ Communidade Ghor] 98231 07114 2. Kenneth D'Souza at Mapusa residence/Syndicate Bank Panaji 94220 61654 3. Roque Carvalho at Mapusa Service Station/Petrol Pump 94220 57544 Non-members of the Britto's OBA can obtain entry passes at a price or join the Britto's OBA now. Tables free for early birds upto noon on 25 December, 2008 . Every Britto's OBA member is eligible for a FREE copy of the BRITTO'S RETRO [a compilation of alumni memories from 1946 to 2006 while stocks last. For details visit www.brittos-oba.com If you are already a member, we thank you for enrolling and have sent a message to your last known email ID on the members' list. We cherish the association of BOBs as members in the difficult years. The Britto's OBA, unlike Oliver Twist, is committed to not asking for more, save your time to be in the new Managing Committee due to be elected for a two-year term beginning July, 2009. We wish you and all your loved ones A JOYOUS AND HOPE FILLED CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009. Mog asundi Miguel Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] It's time for Goans to do introspection: Kamat
Dears, QUOTE Goa has done a lot of progress and there is still scope for further development, however, the people are now opposing everything, the Chief Minister said and added that it is important for people to draw a line with regard to development. UNQUOTE Obviously, the CM does not like the LINE drawn by the people of Goa through the Gram Sabha resolutions across Goa AFTER the TCP Department had a field day with colours ...all in the name of DRP 2021 based VILLAGE PLANS that are removed from the reality!! Perhaps, he thinks that the GBA is KPA once more and that GGRM, CCFs, BVAC, GGR, KNS, SVM and other CBOs/CSOs can be wished away like a builder's mid-summer night's dream. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:50:24 +0530 From: Goanet News news.goa...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] It's time for Goans to do introspection: Kamat Message-ID: 8ea78e010812201420v21703b47o86f3c60e560ea...@mail.gmail.com It's time for Goans to do introspection: Kamat NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-12-20 MARGAO- The Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat on Friday said that the time has come for Goans to do introspection with regard to development. He said that the people have developed a negative approach towards development and have been opposing everything, be it a garbage treatment plant or any project in the name of protecting Goan identity. The function, which was also attended by the Chief Secretary, Mr J P Singh, the Power Minister, Mr Aleixo Sequeira, the PWD Minister, Mr Churchill Alemao, the Urbam Development Minister, Mr Joaquim Alemao, sarpanchas of Carmona, Orlim, Cavelossim and Varca, besides electricity department officials. Navhindtimes.com: -- Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] 1st Konkani Culture and literary festival at Margao
Dears, On Saturday evening, 20 December, 2008, the CM was the Chief Guest at the inaugural function of the 1st Konkani Culture and literary festival at Margao. I was happy to be proved wrong in my assumption, based on otherwise reliable inputs, that is was going to avoid the function. Mr. Mauvin Godinho failed to turn up. So it was a double surprise. The organisers remembered the sacrifice of Florian Vaz, the twenty years old boy who was killed by Police at Gogol-Margao this day 22 years ago, 20 Dec. 1986 during the KPA-led Konkani agitation. Daniel F.D'Souza and Tina D'Costa compered the event. Incidentally, Daniel is the winner of the second Konknni Martir Florian Vaz Puroskar earlier this year. Fr. Pratap Naik SJ, the Director of TSKK thathas instituted the award, was the keynote speaker. The programme continues the whole of Sunday as detailed below. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Subject: 1st Konkani Culture and literary festival at Margao To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Date: Friday, 19 December, 2008, 10:25 PM Dears, Please inform your friends about the Konkani cultural programme tomorrow and on Sunday organised by the Dalgado Konkani Akademi at the Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernandes hall, Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. The programmes are Sunday morning, 21 December, 2008 9.30 A.M. Cultural programme 10.00 TALKS on Novels, Poems, Essays. 12 noon Cultural programme 1.00 P.M. Lunch 3.00 P.M. TALKS Education, Tiatr and Youth 5.30 P.M. Valedictory function. Churchill Alemao is the Chief Guest and you can best your last rupee that he will be there. the South Goa Parliamentary seat will be up for grabs in less than six months from now ...and he has his eyes on it for the love of Valanka. 6.30 P.M. Tiatr Tandellanchem Kestanv written by Pai Tiatrist Directed by Anil Kumar. I know it is almost Christmas time and everyone is busy, but if you can make the time, do come and encourage the people who have put this programme together ...all for the love of Konkani. Mog asundi Miguel Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID. Get yourn...@rocketmail.com. Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Re. Keynote address at First Konknni conference (Roman Script)
Dears, The following is a part of the text of a Keynote address delivered by Dr Pratap Naik, S.J. the Director of Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Alto Porvorim during the opening session (20.12.2008) of First Konkani Literary and Cultural Conference (Roman script) held at Pai Tiatrist hall of Ravindra Bhavan, Margao from 20 to 21 December 2008. Paulo sweats for Pandu's fest is the story of Konkani after the Official Language Act, 1987, was enacted. Those who write Konkani in Roman script are terrorized with fears of being swamped by the Marathi-wadis or of merger with Maharashtra or being de-nationalised by English, while those who write Konkani in Devangri script conveniently send their children to Marathi or English medium primary schools. Such is their duplicity. Principal Newman Fernandes, the former Principal of St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, speaks on education tomorrow afternoon. He knows all too well the risks of being outspoken, but dares to speak his mind. After all, no one lives forever ...and one's career is even shorter. Perhaps, no other Principal has acheived as much in the academic progression of college education in Goa as him in recent years. He was from a different mould altogether. May he live long and prosper where ever he chooses to be. Truth Triumphs or so say the two words on our National Emblem: Satyameva Jayate . Fr. Pratap Naik SJ, the Director of the Society of Jesus managed Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, has the audacity to speak the Truth in a public forum. May his tribe increase. Mog asundi Miguel Romi lipientle Konknnichem Poilem Sahityik ani Sonvskrutik Sommelon 20 -21 Dezembr 2008 Tumkam somestank Dev bori sanz dium. Moddganvchea Pai Tiatirst João Augustinho Fernandes Salant Dalgado Konknni Akademichea fuddarponna khal Az ani faleam Romi lipientlem Konknnichem Poilem Sahityik ani Sonvskrutik Sommelon zata hi khobor fokot amkam mat nhoi punn sogllea Konknni lokak sontosachi ani obhimanachi. Punn aicho dis Konknnichea itihasant dukhacho dis. Kiteak 22 vorsam adim heach disa Konknni bhaxechea chollvolli vellar amchea bhava Floriano Vaz-ak aplo jiv diuncho poddlo. Kal ami Gõycho suttkecho dis monoylo. Gõychi suttka zatoch Gõy Moharaxttrant vechem nhoi punn tem vegllem urche khatir opinion pola vellar Romi lipientli Konknni vaporchea lokan purto tenko dil'lo. Haka lagun az Gõychem khaxeleponn urlem. Romi lipientli ani Kon'nodd lipientli Konknni borpavoll ani vavr polleun 1975 vorsa Sahitya Akademin Konknni sahityachi bhas mhonn manyatay dili. Nagori lipient tednam bhov thoddi Konknni borpavoll asli. Gõyant chimttibhor borovpi Nagori lipient Konknni boroytale ani tech apli borpavoll vachtale. Tea vellar Gõyant Konknni mhonnlear Romi lipientli Konknni hem sot soglleank khobor aslem. Nagori lipi Gõychea Razbhas Kaideant aspaun ghetli. Konknni mhonnje Devonagori lipientli Konknni hem vakya Razbhas Kaideant ghalunk laylem. Gham' kaddunk Pavlu ani khaunk mat Panddu hi got itle dis amchi zal'li. Kama purte mama aslolea hannim amche hok nakarle. Punnpattlea chear vorsam pasun amche modlea kaim zonnamni kelolea vavraklagun Konknnichea mollar novem pan ugtem zaunk laglem. Aichem hem sommelon bhaxe ani lipie mollavoili amchi suttka khunnayta. Itle dis amcho lok Nagori lipiechea ani tantum borounche Konknnichea gulamponnant jiyetalo ani aplem apleponn va osmitay ugtean dakhounk pattim sortalo. Razbhas kaido pas zatoch amcho lok nirxelo. Tankamdislem atam aple Konknnik man ani sthan na.Sotakuch xevttim zoit mellta hi mhalgoddeanchim sangnni. Hi sangnni aiz khori zaunk laglea. Tumkam somestank Dev Borem Korum. Dr. Pratap Naik, S.J. Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr Alto Porvorim, Gõy – 403 521 -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Konknni Martyr Florian Vaz remembered
Dears, Today Goa is a full fledged state because it has a distinct language, KONKANI. The recognition of the language in 1975 by the Sahitiya Akademi was made easy by the collection of books written by Reginald Fernandes, Bonaventure D'Pietro, Xenoi Goembab and others in Roman script, and by Chafra and others in Kannada script. However, the recognition of Konkani as the Official Language of the then Union Territory of Goa, Daman Diu, came at a heavy price of life and property. Floriano Vaz was perhaps the biggest casualty. The people of Goa remembered the sacrifice of Florian Vaz, the twenty years old boy who was killed by Police at Gogol-Margao this day 22 years ago, 20 Dec. 1986 during the KPA-led Konkani agitation. DKA President garlanded the photo of Florian Vaz in the presence of the Chief Minister of Goa, Shri Digamber Kamat. Formewr Speaker of Goa Assembly and DKA's IPP, Tomazinho Cardoz was there. So was the out-going Vice President of Goa Konkani Academy, Dr. Tanaji Halarnkar. Shridhar Kamat of KBM, Author-Editors Yusuf Shaikh [former Station Director of AIR and DD], Pandarinath Lotlikar, Ashok Chodankar [winner of first KMFV Puroskar], Daniel D'Souza [winner of second KMFV Puroskar], Dr. Francisco Colaco and others were present. On the same day, the Panjimites Wefare Society organised a Konkani music evening at Azad Maidan, Panaji-Goa, where the Martyrs Memorial and the Memorial of TB Cunha are located. If the sound of gunfire tormented Florian Vaz on this day 22 years ago, may his soul find peace in the music and the songs sung in the language he died for, Konkani. Mog asundi Miguel Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID get yourn...@ymail.com. Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
Re: [Goanet] Seasonal Goanetters meet in Goa
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:28:09 -0500 Dear me, James Wright seems to have got it all wrong ...unless he is talking of some other BMX event at Palmarinha! The BMX alumni meet was held 17 to 22 December, 2007 [a full year ago] and the next BMX alumni event is due from 11 to 16 April, 2009. Will the next BMX ice-breaker also be hosted there? The Goanetter's meet is normally over some snacks and tea, Dutch style ...hardly the thing for which one will travel by a special cab to Calangute. Mog asundi Miguel From: James Wright ja...@jameswright.org.uk Subject: Re: [Goanet] Seasonal Goanetters meet in Goa Message-ID: blu0-smtp50efb9e84a37d244ace26cb3...@phx.gbl Try Palmarinha resort near Calangute..its fantastic for reunion events and. All in very good condition and prices are much more reasonable than elsewhere ..attended Bmx event recently and cannot recommend it more highly. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Skin-deep secularism
Dears, At least our secularism is skin deep. Our understanding or the ground reality is even shallower: Was IFFI not held in Goa this year? Does IFFI generate tourist flow beyond the delegates? Do we need to promote domestic tourism during the period Goa is crowded for the SFX novenas and feast as IFFI purportedly does? The caste system among Goans in USA and Canada is stronger than among Goans in Goa. Check the social networking and marriage data and the truth will stare you in the face. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:41:14 -0800 (PST) From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Skin-deep secularism Message-ID: 917061.35384...@web46005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com In a world of today, the issues for pre-election discussion should be economic growth, job creation, infrastructure building, law and order, public services, taxes. Did the lack of IFFI in Goa this year generate any discussion on Goanet about the loss of tourism etc etc?? Or was there a sigh of relief?? Regards, GL FREDERICK NORONHA It may sound provocative, but the 'secular' campaigner in Goa isn't so secular. Scratch a 'secular' campaigner, and you would quickly realise that below the skin his or her religious colours and even caste bias come out speedily. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] FIRST KONKNNI (Roman Script) Literary and Cultural Convention
Dear Godfrey, It is universally accepted that Digamber Kamat has done more for Konkani in the Roman script during the last 18 months in office than Pratapsingh Rane, Dr. Wilfred de Souza, Luizinho Faleiro, Francisco Sardinha and Manohar Parrikar have done during their terms in office as CM. However, during his term as Education Minister in Rane's cabinet, Luizinho has freed the candidates who have studied Konkani in school from the burden of getting tested by the GKA for proficiency in Konkani, something that allegedly kept the Director of Education from getting posted on regular basis [as against ad hoc appointment] Digamber has listed what he has done for Konkani in the Roman script today. Let us see what the Anj Bhoddvo has to say about his actions tomorrow. A single page supplement in the Pudari today is little comfort. Will a supporter of the Roman script make it to the President's post in the Goa Konkani Akademi for the first time since its formation ...or will the Roman script protagonists be stuck with a position in the Tiatr Akademi? Mauvin Godinho not turning up for the event that was fixed well in advance is a shame ...specially because the CM came. I do not think people will forget this in a hurry. Can all the MLAs who support Konkai in the Roman script put up their hands in the State Assembly? Or will this issue need to come up through Gram Sabha resolutions in the Panchayats , a process that may well tear the state apart? The interests are the same ... the builders and the mine lease holders are the one's who support Devanagri only for Konkani or prefer English in the Roman script or, increasingly, the roll of the dice in the Casino ships on the Mandovi ...while they target Babush Monserrate to dissipate the public anger. Mog asundi Miguel PS Feni is ek-vis grao and second to none! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:27:43 +0530 (IST) From: godfrey gonsalves gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] FIRST KONKNNI (rOMAN SCRIPT) Literary and Cultural convention begins Message-ID: 53064.90592...@web95302.mail.in2.yahoo.com Floral tribute was paid to late Floraino Vaz who died on this date in 1986. Short of any talk on amendment of the official language to include Romi lipi the CM stated that he had fulfilled most of the demands of the Romi protoganists viz; naming the auditorium after Pai Tiatrist , the grant of 15 lacs to the Dalgado Konknni Akademi and now recently the Tiatr Academy which will be functional in January 2009. and then left the auditorium The speaker who won thunderous applause from the audience was Dr (Fr) Pratap Naik Director TSKK who termed the nagri proponents of Konknni as terrorist and called upon the Goans to take pride in their own language lest they be considered as Ghattis Surprisingly niether Agnelo Alcasoas nor the Dy Speaker Mr Mauvin Godinho were present. from the Pai Tiatrist nagar GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES, gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] GBA on Liberation Day
GBA empowers villagers on Goa Liberation Day The GBA, led from the front by Co-Convener Sabina Martins and Secretary Reboni Saha, made a presentation at Cansaulim Village Panchayat and Gram Sabha on how to read a plan and what to look for in the draft Village Plan given to each Panchayat on 22 November, 2008. The was preceded by hoisting of the national tricolour and followed by a presntation by Julio D'Silva on the village planning done by Chandor Village as well as a demonstration by Mr. Prabhudesai of ICAR on vermicomposting for garbage management. The GBA presentation was based on the DRP 2021 Plan for South Goa district [Map B2], map for and maps for Cansaulim village in DRP 2021 and RP 2011, as well as a Digital Globe image of the village, was followed by an interaction with the participants from the villages and GBA team. From the village of Terekhol in Pernem to the village of Agonda in Canacona, the villagers have noticed the differences between what the DRP 2021 shows and what they can actually see on the ground. Earlier today, the GBA also made a presentation on the DRP 2021 to the Village Committee of Velsao. Garbage and the Draft Regional Plan 2021 are perceived as bigger threats to the village of Cansaulim-Arossim-Cuelim than the terrorists from LeT. The villagers are arming themselves with information to defend themselves against these twin threats. They want compost pits for the garbage and sand dunes to protect their beachfront, not in bunkers on their beaches. In liberated Goa, the people also want the power at the Panchayat level to plan for themselves as guaranteed by the Constitution of India. In the afternoon, the GBA held a meeting of volunteers, both old and new, to plan a strategy for the future. Empowered by the interpretation of the law given by Mr. T. Raghunathan, Joint Secretary [Panchayats] in the Government of India, and the interaction with Mr. Vinod Kumar of MAITHRI-Kerala, the GBA members are guiding the villagers on what can be done at the village levels. Villagers do not want to sacrifice land to provide ten metre wide “Main Village Roads” so that the builders can get “commercial” zoning for apartment blocks in their villages using the ten metre roads as their access. The existing five or six metre wide village roads are good enough for the villagers. They do not want broad roads that have already become difficult for pedestrians to cross in Panaji and other major towns. They also do not want vehicles zooming at high speeds on broader village roads that are proposed in the DRP 2021. The GBA represents the voice of the people. This is quite clear from the support that the GBA has received in the villages across Goa during the December, 2008, as it did in December, 2006. The village level contacts and presentations will continue as requests continue to pour in. Mog asundi Miguel Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
[Goanet] 1st Konkani Culture and literary festival at Margao
Dears, Please inform your friends about the Konkani cultural programme tomorrow and on Sunday organised by the Dalgado Konkani Akademi at the Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernandes hall, Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. The programmes are Saturday evening, 20 December, 2008 1. 4.30 P.M. Official inauguration [for those interested in the status of Konkani in Goa today]. The CM is scheduled to be the Chief Guest. He was also scheduled to be the Chief Guest at the 42nd Mando festival and Tomazinho Cardoz's book release earlier this month ...but was not there. So if he is not there at the festival, I would not be surprised. The Lok Sabha elections do not worry him so much as his own seat and business associates. I would be happy to be proved wrong. 2. 6.30 P.M. onwards Cultural programme/entertainment Sunday morning, 21 December, 2008 9.30 A.M. Cultural programme 10.00 TALKS on Novels, Poems, Essays. 12 noon Cultural programme 1.00 P.M. Lunch 3.00 P.M. TALKS Education, Tiatr and Youth 5.30 P.M. Valedictory function. Churchill Alemao is the Chief Guest and you can best your last rupee that he will be there. the South Goa Parliamentary seat will be up for grabs in less than six months from now ...and he has his eyes on it for the love of Valanka. 6.30 P.M. Tiatr Tandellanchem Kestanv written by Pai Tiatrist Directed by Anil Kumar. On Saturday we remember the sacrifice of Florian Vaz, the twenty years old boy who was killed by Police at Gogol-Margao this day 22 years ago, 20 Dec. 1986 during the KPA-led Konkani agitation. I know it is almost Christmas time and everyone is busy, but if you can make the time, do come and encourage the people who have put this programme together ...all for the love of Konkani. Mog asundi Miguel Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Educate to Liberate
Educate to Liberate How de-colonialized is our thinking? Miguel Braganza Today is Liberation Day, the 47th anniversary of our change-over from being a Portuguese colony with a local co-opted Parliament to being a fiefdom of Delhi with a full-fledged Legislative Assembly to do its bidding. If proof is at all required of the broad spectrum of acceptance of this view, one only has to listen to the recent interview of the former CM and current BJP Leader of the Opposition recorded for a Congress-leaning cable TV network done by Pramod Acharya, a former point man of CNN-IBN in Goa. Said he, If the Government in Delhi changes after the oncoming elections to the Lok Sabha, there will be a change in Government in Goa or words to that effect. That is the truth ever since Goa became a State and joined the National mainstream of politics. In fact the trial run was the first make-over of the Congress-U [for Urs} to Congress-I [for Indira] in January, 1980. Till statehood, the Lieutenant Governor looked after the interest of Delhi. Delhi is the undisputed capital of India since the days of Sher Shah Suri and Akbar, long before Vasco da Gama was even born! The Goanet debate is whether Goa was liberated [as we celebrate while we inebriate] annually on the night of 18 19 December or conquered as stated in the Government of India's affidavit in the Supreme Court of India with respect to Daman and Diu traders, who wanted to continue their trade, or annexed like Sikkim or simply united with the Indian Union through Police Action as in the case of Nizam's Hyderabad. The choices as many as in a Russian roulette, and equally loaded with possibilities and dangers. In any case it is a holiday in Goa and we have to be thankful for that. The reported registration of a complaint under Section 307 IPC for attempt to murder against the young lawyer, Adv. Joao aka John Fernandes, from Quepem makes one wonder if the Freedom Fighters in Goa barked up the wrong tree al this time. Here is a man who is standing up against the establishment to defend the poor Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar [GAKUVED] community members of Colomb, Cavrem, Sulcorna, Rivona, Maina and other villages around the Selaulim dam. These poor, semi-literate to illiterate villagers of the GAKUVED community are struggling to protect the river Kushavati and the Selaulim dam from getting silted prematurely with silt from the mining rejects dumped on their banks. The illiterate know more about environmental protection that many who have done EVS [Environmental Science] from Standard I to Std. XII or graduated in Botany, Geology or Engineering, and even some who have done post-graduate studies in Environmental Engineering. If one wants to know the difference between educated illiterate and the uneducated literate persons one only has to listen to the debate or read mandgoa blogspot. The Naxalite Seby Rodrigues is documenting it for posterity. One wonders how the colonial Titulo de Concessao or the concession given by the colonial regime of Estado da India Portuguesa to exploit the mineral wealth in Goa, is available to people in liberated Goa. How can someone own the mineral beneath someone else's home, field or school [as in the case of Don Bosco's Farm School, Sulcorna, or the Government school at Maina]. Is mining more important than education of our children? Can a Portugese TC continue in liberated Goa when the Communidades can no longer run their own affairs. Does the Land Acquisition Act, 1894, of the British Raj extend and have jurisdiction over the Communidades of the Portuguese Raj? If yes, can the Land Acquisition Act, 1894, also apply to buying surface rights of mines in public interest, or not? Dr. Manohar Rai SarDessai, a linguist and lover of Konkani, wrote thus in his poem dedicated to the 18 June satyagraha of Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia in the run up to the liberation of Goa , Kitle aile ghele, otthra Jun! Ambea-mullant Kuddkuddta Gawdea-por ozun! !19 Decembers also come and go the same way, with no relief to the poor workers, the Gawdi, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar. Reservation of jobs as Scheduled Tribes, The budgetary provision under Tribal Sub-Plan and such other gimmicks are all a joke. Ask Pandurang Madkaikar how it feels to be at the butt end of a joke or Rama Lavu Velip what it feels to be at the wrong end of a lathi. What has been done in 22 long years to compensate the family of Floriano Vaz, who was gunned down in cold blood on 19 December, 1986? The world stands in need of liberation. That is the chorus of a hymn not normally sung at Christmas. I am just back from Orissa that was rocked by violence beginning on 23 December, 2007. The State Assembly was on, and so was the tirade against conversions. The state is tense as there is a 12-hour bandh call issued by the growing number of people who are concerned about the death of Swami Laxmananda and not at all worried about how many lives
[Goanet] Was CREDAI representative a member of the Task Force??
Dears, Reproduced below is my letter sent to all the three known email IDs of the Regional Plan 2021 Division of the TCP Dept., Government of Goa, directly in the care of Mr. Digamber Kamat as Minister of TCP, Chairman of TCP Board and CM of Goa. Let us await the answer. Today, being a Sunday, is a non-working day at TCP. Copies have been sent to newspaper Editors for follow up. Dudh ka dudh, Pani ka pani. Goebbel's theory A lie, oft repeated, becomes the Truth. does not work always. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Sun, 14/12/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Was CREDAI representative a member of the Task Force?? To: taskforcemem...@gmail.com, rpg202...@gmail.com, taskforc...@gmail.com Date: Sunday, 14 December, 2008, 11:38 AM Dear Mr.Morad Ahmad, Mr. Vinod Kumar and Mr. S.T. Puttaraju, Town Country Planning Department, Government of Goa, Patto, Panaji-Goa. Sub: Reference to CREDAI as member of Task Force on RP 2021;confirmation or denial. Ref: Your advertisement in the newspapers on 13 and 14 December, 2008 The Town Country Planning Department, and specially its RPG 2021 Division, seems to have misguided and confused the Chief Minister of Goa, Mr. Digamber Kamat about which organisation Mr. Datta Damodar Naik, the President of Goa Chamber of Housing Industry [GCHI] and Confederation of Real Estate Developers Association of India [CREDAI] represented in the Task Force on Regional Plan 2021. The TCP Ministry has been headed by the CM in his capacity as the Minister for TCP since the very beginning of his term in June 2007. Either he has been misguided, or he has connived with the TCP Dept., to state in a quarter page advertisement in the local newspapers as well as Times of India [Goa Edition] today 14 December, 2008, that the CONFEDERATION OF OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS ASSOCIATION OF INDIA or CREDAI was invited and was a member of the TASK FORCE on RP 2021. I can state with all honesty and sincerity ...basic things that the Government of Goa seems to sorely lack these days that CREDAI was not a part of the TASK FORCE on RP 2021. The Official Gazette notification of 04 October, 2007 and 26 February, 2008, both state that Datta Damodar Naik represents the GCHI [not CREDAI]. The INTERIM REPORT of Task Force [the only document of the Task Force signed by the Convener of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan]issued in April, 2008 bears the signature of Datta Damodar Naik as the representative of GCHI. I have confirmed from an official copy of the DRAFT REGIONAL PLAN 2021 that the DRP also bears the signature of Datta Damodar Naik as representative of GCHI [ and not CREDAI]. In short and in layman's language, the Chief Minister has stated an untruth. If simply put, he is telling us, wittingly or otherwise, a white lie to the people of Goa! It is obvious from the quarter page advertisements of the RPG 2021 Division of the Town Country Planning Dept., Government of Goa yesterday and alongside the signed letter of CM today, where the LIE originates. Will some heads roll in the TCP Department for misleading the CM and/or will the CM apologise owning responsibility for the blatant lie? It is learnt that the man designated as Representative of the'RPG 2021 Division' in the TLTT for the ELEVEN Taluka Level Technical Teams is Deputy Town Planner, Mr. Vinod Kumar [Mobile +91-9423056571 and land line 91-832-2437353 during office hours]. Since he is the Highest Common Factor in the so-called participatory Process of RPG 2021in all the eleven talukas, his honesty, integrity and credibility are of interest to the people of Goa. The RPG 2021 Division has a multiple email ID option, none of them linked to the NIC Net or any Government server. 1. rpg202...@gmail.com as per advt of 13 December, 2008 2. taskforcemem...@gmail.com as per advt of 14 December, 2008 3. taskforc...@gmail.com*as per advt of mid-October, 2007 * Accessed by Mr. S. T. Puttaraju in year 2007 Could you please set up an official email ID for NRI Goans to interact with the TCP Department or endorse that communications to these email IDs are deemed to be Official. I am endorsing a copy to the Commissioner for NRI Goans and tothe newspapers as well some of the persons who have made their presentations before the Task Force or served as part of it officially as per Gazette notifications or quasi-officially to find mention in the acknowledgement page of the Final report or elsewhere in the Interim Report. Please confirm that the revised date for filing objection and/or suggestions to the DRP 2021 has been officially accepted for notification, or if already notified and published in the Official Gazette of Goa. Yours sincerely Miguel Braganza Mapusa Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [Goanet] DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act-By Blaise Costabir
have to provide total sanitation facilities to their labourers, however, according to our sources not all adhere to the rule book. No wonder the number of Malaria cases have risen every year despite the best efforts of the health department. In the last eleven months, the killer mosquito has claimed 20 persons in the State. Sources said that between January to November this year, 20 deaths were reportedly caused due to malaria as against ten in the year 2007. However, according to the health department sources, of the 20 deaths reported this year, in ten cases, malaria was the contributory factor and the persons who died, also suffered from other diseases such as jaundice, heart ailments etc. Candolim: Rs 1,11,000 Panjim: Rs 79,050 Margao: Rs 47,000 Siolim:Rs 80,350 Aldona: Rs 32,310 Mapusa: Rs 24,500 --- On Sun, 14/12/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act-By Blaise Costabir To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Date: Sunday, 14 December, 2008, 12:21 AM Dear Jen, Blaise officially represented GCCI for part of the term of the Task Force [TF] on RP 2021. How many meetings/sittings he atended and for what period of the three-days long, boring sittings, I do not know. He does not state that either. The minutes of the Task Force up to 31 March, 2008, records the attendance at each sitting, but not even that is day wise. Blaise may well wake up to learn that he has been cooking his own goose ...unawares! Miguel Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:54:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jen Lewis jen_l...@yahoo.com Message-ID: 768753.82760...@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act By Blaise Costabir(received by email) TRANSPERANCY FOR AAM ADMI. The Draft RP 2021 also has not converted a square inch of land. RP: Planned, sustainable development. Awake dear friend, you have a lot at stake YOUR FUTURE. *~Jen == Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID get yourn...@ymail.com. Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Exhibition at St.Xaviers High School, Moira 15th Dec Monday
Dears, The exhibition Environment. ...You... ...and I... at St. Xavier HS, Moira, is really impressive. Coming from a person who is difficult to impress, that is really saying things!Surprising that the next-door neighbour, Floriano Lobo, has not posted anything on the net so far about it. The exhibition is open to public from 08.30 A.M. to 1.00 P.M. and there is a talk on Environmental Protection at 11.00 A.M. in the same hall [3 rd Floor] Without such practical and life-oriented projects and exhibitions, school education runs the risk of being a lopsided-- and often unadapted -- verbal transmission of knowledge. These are not my words. They are written in the Message of the Archbishop of Goa and Daman and Patriach of the East Indies, Filipe Neri Ferrao, printed in the Souvenir 2008-09, released by the school We are fortunate to have a genius in ouir school in the person of Mr. Vijaydutta Lotlikar, who is a guiding light and who filled us with optimism, and made us to visualise the positive outcome of this admirable project. wrote Fr. Mariano Goes e Proenca, the Manager of the School and Parish Priest of Moira's Immaculate Conception Church. A prophet is finally recognized in his own school ... a rare thing in a DSE school, if I may add. May the tribe of Fr. Mariano, Vijaydatta and Headmistress Ruby Gonsalves increase. Vijaydutta has been recognised by Limca Book of Records, SFX School Siolim has used himn as a Resource person as has the Goa Handicrafts for his exceptional skills in coconut shell craft, his Crosses have been exhibited at Fundacao Oriente through Alexyz ...and finally his own school gives him the grandstand. I am happy to be associated with Vijaydutta, initially through my sister. Fatima Antao, who recognised his value when she was the headmistress of the same school. thousands of students who have learnt the skill from him bless his name. Some even earn a living. The students are really great. Not only have they been trained to explain the exhibits [ a skill I most admired in the girls of St. Thomas Girls' HS, Aldona, during the time of Sr. Mariola and Sr. Maria Julia AC and in the girls of Carmel HSS, Nuvem, trained by Suvarna Fonseca e Antao in Nuvem as well as at the Konkan Fruit Fest in Panaji] but they have also be trained to do Role Plays to bring home the message. I was floored by two primary school students doing the role of two neighbours and advising the safe distance of 15 metres between the septic tank and the water well. As far as the exhibits go, the stunning frosted lampshades made out of plastic waste using an electric iron and some sheets of paper [to fuse the plastic without getting it stuck to the hot iron] out-do the Coconut shell work as I am seeing a lot of it from Vijaydutta . and now artisans from Kerala. Roland Martins and GOACAN have got some wonderful and useful exhibits, including the DRP 2021 Village Plan for Moira Ms. Sandra Cardoz [Shot-put Steffi's mother] is a familar face as are Ms.Shushila Porobo and Mr. Martin Noronha. I was happy to see Melinda Fernandes e Costa and my dentist-classmate's sister Ms. Carmen Franco, the former brought up in Aldona and the latter married there. Headmistress Ruby Gonsalves has always been dynamic, whether in Corjuem or Santa Cruz or now in Moira. It is a privilege to associate with her in making school a place for learning by doing! If I was not a gardener, I would have been a teacher like my parents or my siblings or my wife. Teaching is a learning experience. If it is not, what are we trying to teach ...old dog tricks to new pups??? Mog asundi Miguel --- On Sun, 14/12/08, Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Day 2 at Exhibition at St.Xaviers High School, Moira 14th Dec Sunday Date: Sunday, 14 December, 2008, 2:47 AM Dears, The exhibition is on at Moira till noon on Monday 15 December, 2008. BOB Roland Martins is the man behind GOACAN. I am delivering the talk on Organic Farming at 4 P.M. before heading to Aldona for the Aldona Bachao Abhiyan public meeting. Vijaydutt Lotlikar's creations are worth seeing. He is world famous all over Goa for Coconut shell craft and has trained students from different Bardez schools in the art at SFX school, Siolim, three years ago. Visit if you can. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Sun, 14/12/08, Goa Desc goad...@gmail.com wrote: - - - - - - Day 2 at St. Xaviers High School, Moira 14th Dec Sun 10am - 5pm at the EXHIBITION on Environment. ...You... ...and I... - - - - - - Exhibition on Environment. ...You and I... Talks on Consumer Rights Responsibilities, Consumer Awareness on Weights Measures, Organic Farming, Treatment of Sewage in Houses Water Harvesting. Also on display - a machine
[Goanet] GBA facilitated interaction on participatory planning with Vinod Kumar
Mr. Vinod Kumar of MAITHRI today interacted with the people at a programme in Panaji on Saturday facilitated by the Goa Bachao Abhiyan to promote a better understanding of the Participatory planning process. Ms.Sabina Martins welcomed the participants and introduced the Resource person. Reboni Saha, Secretary of GBA, explained how to read the Village map and the DRP 2021 Village Plan showing the changes brought about by Gazette notifications after RP 2001 and the proposed changes in different colour schemes. Many villagers present protested that they have not received three maps [Taluka, village and DRP 2021] but just two maps in the Kit given tothe Panchayats. As in the case of Terekhol,Pilerne, Salvador do Mundo, Chicalim and Poinguinim reported earlier, the villagers of Arpora, Nuvem, San Jose de Areal and others complained that forest land and wetlands were shown as orchards or even as settlement in their villages. Reboni offered the GBA's services to the village Committees to help over-lay the village plans with Google Earth imagery provided the group brings a scanned or digital image of the village plan available at the Panchayat or from TCP Dept. One of the participants, Sukhad Keshkamat from Nuvem, presented Google Earth pictures showing the NH-17 highway passing through Nuvem and Verna. There is a need for transparency and coordination in the planning process, he said. Mr. Vinod Kumar presented the GBA with a set of books on Village Planning, Capacity building, Women's empowerment, Gram Sabha and other topics of interest in the planning process. On Sunday there will be a presentation at Burmar-Agonda for villagers of Agonda and Khola in association with the members of the two Panchayats. The Aldona Bachao Abhiyan has organised a meeting at the Tercena which will be addressed by members of ABA and invited speakers including Geraldine Fernandes of GGRM, Soter D'Souza of CPR and Miguel Braganza of GBA. St.Xavier's HS., Moira, is hosting a three day exhibition on Environment at the school premises. It started on Saturday and will end on Monday at 1 P.M. GOACAN, DSTE,GEDA and other organisations are supporting the event. It is open between 10 A.M. and 5 P.M. on Sunday Mog asundi Miguel Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/win/
[Goanet] Bunkers or Bonkers?
Dears, Things are just getting worse. The Goa Police have erected a sand-bags bunker at the Santa Monica jetty from where the river cruises originate on the Mandovi, near the new Patto bridge. Last evening they had a mock drill of a terror attack in Patradevi [the suspended PI Nelson Albuquerque has since been reinstated and put in charge of Immigration and SPCA as per the latest flash at 10 P.M.He must have paid the arrears due higher up.]. Many vehicles damaged their clutch-plates crawling through traffic at Panaji, Mapusa and .. Patradevi ...due to Police checks on photo identity to locate the terrorists. I do not know if LeT or JuD issue ID cards that bear their names and identify the bearers as Fidayeen or terrorist. The Police do not know, either but they hope to find out, at least before they die. ;-) In the meanwhile Russia has issued an advisory to avoid Goa like plague. The cops are waiting for UK, Germany and Portugal to do likewise. Then they can sit in the beach shacks and relax with Kings beer with nary a tourist in sight, save the reported 1,300 sailors and marines on shore leave from the two ships of US Seventh Fleet at MPT and GSL, Vasco, where their ships are being serviced. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:24 +0530 (IST) From: Miguel Braganza miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [Goanet] Bunkers or Bonkers? Message-ID: 433731.5307...@web8704.mail.in.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dears, Then the whole world went crazy. You bet it has scared away even the tourists who were courageous enough to stay back after the terrorist threat. Israel, which sends its conscripted Army recruits as tourists, has issued a Travel Advisory to withdraw from Goa by this weekend and NOT to stay in Goa during the second half of December, 2008 according to the TTAG Chairman. We have do have have full-blooded 'Sardars' at the helm of affairs in Goa, but no Goan expected such a cruel joke on the mainstay of the State's economy: Tourism. Talk about furthering the cause of the LeT terrorists! Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goan Village names
-- Forwarded message -- Dears, It is said that Siolim was Shiva halli or Shivoli Benaulim was Bann-a- halli Vanelim was Vana halli while Panjim was Panjak halli. Halli is a current Kannada word meaning village or hamlet. Dravidian language though the Devanagri Konkani lobby may callit,Kannada has more Sanskrit roots than Marathi. The word Angodd is also derived fromn the current Kannada wardAngddi meaning shopping place or even a ghaddo Goa , for most part of its pre-colonial era was a part of Karnataka-based Kingdoms from Vijaynagar, Bahamani, Bijapur, Sonde or evenKadambas of Banavasi, near Sirsi. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:40 +0530 From: reena.martins reena.mart...@abp.in Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan village names Message-ID: 49437328.6060...@abp.in Dear Antonio, the 'lim' ending you mention, is the abbreviated form of the Sanskrit 'halli', meaning hamlet. Regards, Reena Antonio Menezes wrote: The arrival of the Portuguese in Goa in 1510 was also accompanied by change in the names of villages throughout Goa. Most village names have ended in LIM as follows: Salcete: Ambelim ,Benaulim,Camurlim (Ambora),Cuncolim,Duncolim,Davorlim,Guirdolim, Loutulim,Navelim/Telaulim,Sirlim,Orlim,Seraulim, Gandaulim(Colva),Vanelim and Velim. Mormugao: Cansaulim/Cuelim, Chicalim, Cortalim and Dabolim. Ilhas: Bambolim, Carambolim,Corlim, Gandaulim,Panelim,Navelim (Divar) and Talaulim ( Santana) Bardez: Camurlim ,Candolim, Cunchelim ,Olaulim and Siolim. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] GBA initiatives on DRP 2021 Press note dated 11th DEc
Dears, The GBA will conduct a meeting at Agonda -Canacona at 10.30 A.M. and also participate in the public meeeting organised by Aldona Bachao Abhiyan at 4.30 P.M. on 14 December, 2008 at the Tercena-Aldona. [Press Note has been issued by ABA.] after successfully facilitating an interactive session on PARTICIPATORY Planning Process at Panaji with experienced Resource Person from MAITHRI, Kerala. Other assistance is as listed below. One can take a horse to the water. The horse has to drink to quench its thirst. Neighing will get it nowhere closer to satisfying its thirst. Together we have got the RP 2011 revoked. Together we can make the RP 2021 better than the DRP 2021 proposes that we do. Goa is our land. Bangarallem Goy! Let's make it better!! Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:32:03 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Goanet] GBA initiatives on DRP 2021 Press note dated 11thDec Message-ID: 80972.99691...@web8701.mail.in.yahoo.com GBA's INITIATIVES with the people of Goa include: - 1. GUIDANCE ON VILLAGE LEVEL PLANNING: A] *Mr. Vinod Kumar,* an expert on participatory planning from Maithri, Kerala,will share his experiences on the planning process B]. *GBA will hold awareness meetings wherever requested by village groups, and provide information and suggestions through its website www.savegoa.com, print-outs, CDs etc. C]. *GBA does overlays of Village Survey maps* on the revoked RP-2011, proposed RP-2021, and google satellite imagery for interested groups, provided the group supplies GBA with a copy of the village survey maps or DRP 2021 settlement maps as provided by the TCP Dept on 22 November, 2008,to Village Panchayats and pay the cost of print-out [Around Rs.500/- in all] The DRP 2021 village plans can be used as the basis for developing village plans through the Participatory Rapid Appraisal [PRA].Using this PRA process [basically sitting with the plan and iviting suggestion before finalising aland use for each plot in the village] it will be easier to catch fraud [as in the case of Pilerne] and to ask for facilities that the village needs or wants [a bus stand, a mini market, a cottage hospital, etc]. The DPC can then decide how to share these facilities among village and town clusters. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Wed, 10/12/08, GBA office goabachaoabhi...@gmail.com wrote: *Goa Bachao Abhiyan*, 77, Defence Colony, Porvorim Contact: 9767701245 GBA/PRESS/2008/1111 December, 2008 The GBA was formed on 03 December, 2008, to facilitate the people of Goa in achieving three primary objectives 1. Get the Fraudulent Regional Plan 2011 revoked; 2. Bring about a transparency in participatory planning for Goa in accordance with the rights and duties under Article 243 of the Constitution of India after the 73rd and 74th amendments 3. Help formulate a new Regional Plan in the spirit of the 73rd 74thamendments. Reboni Saha Secretary Goa Bachao Abhiyan - -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 miguelbraga...@yahoo.co.in -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act-By Blaise Costabir
Dear Jen, Blaise Costa Bir is no stranger to me. His wife is the sister of Alfred DeSouza from Saligao [Alfy, to friends], who died at Blaise's house two years ago. Blaise officially represented GCCI for part of the term of the Task Force [TF] on RP 2021. How many meetings/sittings he atended and for what period of the three-days long, boring sittings, I do not know. He does not state that either. The minutes of the Task Force up to 31 March, 2008, records the attendance at each sitting, but not even that is day wise. The representative appointed by the Government from GBA roped in Patricia Pinto and Ritu Prasad to share the boredom so he could attend to his patients. It overwhelmed them even before the Solar eclipse of 01 August, 2008. [Read the newspapers of 02 August, 2008 for all types of details, most of them untrue or inaccurate.] In any case, I would wholeheartedly endorse his view that EVERY RESIDENT OF GOA, Blaise Cost Bir included, should read the RP 2021 document released by the Task Force on 22 September, 2008, approved at the 133 meeting of the TCP Board on 29 September, notified on 08 October, published in the Official Gazete on 16 October, released to the Village Panchayats on 22 November and explained to the Village Panchayat members by TLTTs at Taluka level between 01 and 07 December, 2008. The Goa Bachao Abhiyan [GBA], that Blaise praises without naming, is conducting awareness meetings at the request of the people who want to understand the VILLAGE MAPS that the Task Force has created only up to the Taluka level. They are bad enough. The TCP has further fiddled with the village maps. Today, Sukhad Keshkamat from Nuvem has exposed what tricks have been played by the TCP and NHAI on Blaise's home village of Verna. Perhaps, Blaise would like to explain the TF's view to the villagers in Verna. The TCP team lacks the courage to do that. My friend, Soter De Souza, Director of the Centre for Panchayati Raj made a 25 minutes presentation before the Task Force in my presence. Blaise was not there. Soter presented Edgar Ribeiro with a copy of his presentation on a CD. The Interim Report and the DRP 2021 record three sentences as minutes thereof. There is no mention of Article 243 ZD of the Constitution of India, the main trust of Soter's presentation. Perhaps, Blaise will care to ask the TCP Dept.[Deputy Town Planner Vinod Kumar is in charge of the DRP 2021 cell now]for the audio recording of Soter's presentation on 23 November, 2007. Blaise might have missed the flat, table-top microphone. We have not. The DRP 2021 have two major bypass roads from Usgao to Balli [near Cuncolim] and to Karaswada in Mapusa. The road land acquisition width is 30 metres. Each bypass is about 60 km long. The Draft RP 2021 also has not converted a square inch of land. says Blaise. He is right. The Task Force has used the METRIC system of measurement, not the British FPS [Foot, Pound, Second] system!! Awake dear friend, you have a lot at stake YOUR FUTURE. writes Blaise. I hope he will do the same in his village or in Fatorda, where he lives. If he needs help, he can consult Architect Dean D'Cruz, who has been a member of the Task Force and is now aghast to see how ther TCP has deceived them all. Even the forest on the hill above his house has been shown as Pilerne Industrial Estate Phase -II. Blaise may well wake up to learn that he has been cooking his own goose ...unawares! Jen, why not invite Blaise Costa Bir for the Institute of Engineers [India] Goa chapter interaction with Senior Town Planner, Mr. S.T. Puttaraju [former Nodal Officer of the Task Force] on 16 December, 2008. Blaise lives close by to the venue of the meeting and cocktails. He could be the Guest of Honour . and do the honours of defending the DRP 2021 there. I am sure Mr. S.T. Puttaraju would be happy to have some support. The IEI will also have a resource person in case Mr. Puttaraju develops cold feet or flew Oooops! I mean 'flu. ;-) Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:54:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jen Lewis jen_l...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act-By Blaise Costabir Message-ID: 768753.82760...@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com DRP2021: Your Opportunity to Act By Blaise Costabir(received by email) The idea behind this article is to motivate as many to read the actual text and having read it, to make comments, suggestions and objections to the TCP Department. It in no way will attempt to be a synopsis of the actual document. The RP task force was formed against a backdrop of the most successful people's movement in recent times. Hence any group, starting a new exercise to frame the RP for Goa would have the people's aspirations in front of them. The TF attempted to keep minutes but to my mind an impossible task. My suggestion for future such exercises would be to video record every meeting for posterity. The reconciled maps were
[Goanet] Bunkers or Bonkers?
Dears, The people of Goa are familiar with the term Banca fixada that has nothing to do with a Bank or a Bonk but is a term used to describe a fixed sale point as opposed to the itenerant salesperson withor without a push-cart. Banca = Bench. One could find some of these on the beach front. The kids in Colleges know about bunking classes [not missing periods as some mistakenly call it] and going to the beach. So it was not rare to see the bunkers [as in students bunking class] on the beach. Some of them even bring along sanwiches. Then the whole world went crazy. Some one in Goa's War Cabinet decided to make bunkers a permanent feature on Goa's beaches. He [for there is no She in the Goa cabinet these days as Mummy has been left out even from the Petty coat cabinet] replaced sandwiches with sand bags and the bunkers became the military type with gun-toting police commandos of the India Reserve Battalion or IRB [actually Goa Police but with central pay package and kit] men in them. You bet it has scared away even the tourists who were courageous enough to stay back after the terrorist threat. Israel, which sends its conscripted Army recruits as tourists for Rest Recuperation at Tel-Aviv c/o Ozrant, Anjuna, has issued a Travel Advisory to withdraw from Goa by this weekend and NOT to stay in Goa during the second half of December, 2008 according to the TTAG Chairman. If Goa Policemen without arms can seize passports and extort money from unsuspecting tourists by threatening a ten year jail under NDPS Act [for details, read the Survial Kit of the Lonely Planet entitled simply as Goa or ask Calangute MLA, Agnelo Fernandes how he rescued one such victim] there is no telling what may be at stake when the cop is armed to the gills! The forty percent drop in tourist flow that is predicted by tourism circles is only the tip of the ice-berg. Once photos of the beach bunkers in Goa are on the internet sites and blogs, there will be a chill this winter that crores of rupees in publicity will not be able to undo. We have do have have full-blooded 'Sardars' at the helm of affairs in Goa, but no Goan expected such a cruel joke on the mainstay of the State's economy: Tourism. Who better to know this than someone who has been in the International Civil Avaition Organisation in Canada!! The TV channels were bad enough in Mumbai. Goa Government and Administration seems to leave them as a distant second! Talk about furthering the cause of the LeT terrorists! Our motto: Live and LeT live We have turned from Cowherds to cowards. I-Cow, You Bull ..shi!! Fighting for peace is like FKing for virginity ...but Goa Police obviously know it not! They now have bunkered vision. Mog asundi Miguel Get an email ID as yourn...@ymail.com or yourn...@rocketmail.com. Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] GBA initiatives on DRP 2021 Press note dated 11th Dec
GBA's INITIATIVES with the people of Goa include: - 1. GUIDANCE ON VILLAGE LEVEL PLANNING: A] *Mr. Vinod Kumar,* an expert on participatory planning from Maithri, Kerala,will share his experiences on the planning process on Saturday 13th December, 2008, Institute Piedade, next to SBI Mandovi Branch and Cafe Coffee Day, Panaji, at 4 P.M. sharp. This GBA programme is free and open to public. Members of Village RP Committees and other NGOs/CSOs are cordially invited. Many have already confirmed participation. B]. *GBA will hold awareness meetings wherever requested by village groups, and provide information and suggestions through its website www.savegoa.com, print-outs, CDs etc. The first meeting was held at Shraddanand Hall Poinguinim on 07 December. The second meeting is scheduled of 10.30 A.M. on 14 December at Burmar hall, Agonda [for Agonda and Khola-Canacona Village RP committees and villagers]. The GBA will also participate in the public meeeting organised by Aldona Bachao Abhiyan at 4.30 P.M. on 14 December, 2008 at the Tercena-Aldona. [Press Note has been issued by ABA.] C]. *GBA does overlays of Village Survey maps* on the revoked RP-2011, proposed RP-2021, and google satellite imagery for interested groups, provided the group supplies GBA with a copy of the village survey maps or DRP 2021 settlement maps as provided by the TCP Dept on 22 November, 2008,to Village Panchayats and pay the cost of print-out [Around Rs.500/- in all] The DRP 2021 village plans can be used as the basis for developing village plans through the Participatory Rapid Appraisal [PRA] processes used for developing watershed and other plans, even in Goa. These village plans can then be plotted by a draughtsman or by CAD Design and be sent to the Distric Planning Committee or DPC for North or South Goa as the case may be. ( DPCs, as specified in the 73rd 74th amendment to the Constitution of India, have been constituted in Goa with the ZP Chairperson as the head, but NOT put in operation but powers were fraudulently transferred to the Task Force by notification of 16 February, 2008.) The VILLAGE PLANS [of scale 1:5000 or 1 cm on plan = 50 metres on ground]prepared by the TASK FORCE [actually by the TPC Dept., reportedly through Mr. Ashok Costa of Margao AFTER the Task Force was said to be wound up by its Nodal Officer, Sanjit Rodrigues, while refusing to accept a letter in mid-October, 2008, from the GBA asking for clarification on the DPRs and the DRP abbreviations that can confuse anybody]. The industries [including hotel industry and mining industry and logistics industry], large housing projects, golf courses, etc can be deleted from the Village Plans to reflect the aspirations of the villagers, not the greed of the developers and their cronies in the administration or government. Using this PRA process [basically sitting with the plan and iviting suggestion before finalising aland use for each plot in the village] it will be easier to catch fraud [as in the case of Pilerne] and to ask for facilities that the village needs or wants [a bus stand, a mini market, a cottage hospital, etc]. The DPC can then decide how to share these facilities among village and town clusters. We believe that in the two months it took to release the village maps, vested interests have already 'Paid' to get their work done in the hope that it will go unnoticed.YOU can make the difference now. YOU HAVE A DATE AT 4.p.m. ON SATURDAY 13 DECEMBER, 2008 AT PANAJI. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Wed, 10/12/08, GBA office goabachaoabhi...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Press note for press conference 11th Dec To: Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 7:07 PM *Goa Bachao Abhiyan* *77, Defence Colony, Porvorim** Contact: 9767701245* * * PRESS RELEASE GBA/PRESS/2008/11 11 December, 2008 The GBA was formed on 03 December, 2008, to facilitate the people of Goa in achieving three primary objectives 1. Get the Fraudulent Regional Plan 2011 revoked; 2. Bring about a transparency in participatory planning for Goa in accordance with the rights and duties under Article 243 of the Constitution of India after the 73rd and 74th amendments 3. Help formulate a new Regional Plan in the spirit of the 73rd 74thamendments. GBA members participated in the deliberations of the Task Force on Regional Plan with this objective in mind, however the Government has proved its unwillingness to implement it. # It has still not brought the outdated Town Country Planning Act 1974 in consonance with the Constitutional amendments 73 74, yet has found the will the hurriedly implement draconian amendment 1616A WHICH EFFECTIVELY NULLIFIES any act of participatory planning. The GBA Core Group and Taluka Co-ordinators met on 05/12/08 to review the status of the Draft Regional Plan and participatory processes put in
[Goanet] 2ND DAY MANDO FESTIVAL A ROUSING SUCCESS
Dears, The Mando festival has ended, but not before adding current affairs and political satire to the realm of song! Utorda-Majorda-Calata has been the non-formal university for bakery in Goa. The “Harmonizers’ Chorus” of Utorda, led by Mr. Alvaro de Assumcao Pereira, had its Mando focused on inflation and consumer price index, starting with the daily bread. “Ponk-ponk, ponk korun Goycho poder yeta. Don rupiancho panv ek gansak veta. Tin rupiam panv zanvcho asa mhunn sogleak bobat zata. Poder panv tuge naka, ami bakri korun khatanv!” [this roughly translates as The baker honks each morn. One bite and the two-rupees loaf is gone. Rumour is that the loaf will soon cost Rs.3/-. Mr. Baker, keep your loaves, I will eat chapati!]The reduced size of the loaf on the eve of a price hike makes the consumers remember the good old chapatti or bakri. According to Godfrey, they picked the top prize. The Goenchem Noketram [Goan Stars]from Sarzora, led by Chemistry Lecturer from PES College Marianella Gina Dias, were also very good and first prize winners in the Original Mando category last year. Teaching and non-teaching staff of St.Xavier's HSS, Mapusa, made their debut in the Mando Festival under the leadership of their new Principal Elvis Gonsalves. In October, 2008, I was in the Malaysian state of Sarawak on the island of Borneo. It felt like Goa, with a beach resort, river ferry, cruise boats, Ale-bele, Dodol and a mix of English, Spanish and Portuguese music along with the local music accompanied by the Sape, a guitar-like instrument. What the Singaporeans call a “sarong” is known locally as the “Baju Melayu” or just “Baju”. It is worn by both men and women. So, there are no prizes for guessing where the “Pan-Baju” or “Baju-Toddo” originated from. If one still harbours doubts, the commonality of the hair style with quill-like adornment and the Borneo music will dispel them. Read more about it in the GT tomorrow [Friday] and on Goanet thereafter. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:56:38 +0530 (IST) From: godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] 2ND DAY MANDO FESTIVAL A ROUSING SUCCESS Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He was also not too happy with the present Minister for Culture who incidentally is the Chief Minister of Goa who he feels was paying mere lip sympathy to appease the Catholic vote bank. Not that the earlier Ministers were any better.His actions reveal contrary to what he speaks he warned this writer and pleaded to do some probing to confirm his point. Today it was the turn of Mr Elvis Gomes Director of Tourism to do the honours while the others Minister for PWD and Salcete strongman and the Director of Art and Culture Mr Prasad Lolayekar still on their way according to the compere Dr Ghanekar at the time of filing this report. Mando AWARD to Harmonizers Chorus of Utorda ; also won 1st prize winners of the Senior Group Original and Traditional category Childrens Group 1st prize Mercechim Sobit Fulam Merces Teenagers Dance Group 1st prize Merces Firgojecho Saad Merces Senior Citizens 1st Prize Porvorim Noketram Porvorim from the Dinanath Mangueskar auditorium, GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO 9822158584 (24 HRS) Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] GBA to facilitate People's understanding of Regional Plan 2021
GBA to facilitate People's understanding of Regional Plan 2021 An interactive meeting on Participatory Village Level Planning is being facilitated by the Goa Bachao Abhiyan with Mr. Vinod Kumar from Maitri-Kerala, as the resource person. Members of the GBA Core Group and Taluka Coordinators will attend and participate in the deliberations. Members of Village Committees and others interested in understanding planning are welcome to attend by prior registration. Please reply to GBA office [EMAIL PROTECTED], or SMS, phone on 9767701245 to reserve a seat as space may be a constraint. The meeting will be held from 4.00 P.M. on Saturday 13 December, 2008 at Institute Piedade hall, Near State Bank of India, Panaji.[entrance near Cafe Coffee Day and Bread More, adjoining Virani Sales Corporation] If the number of participants is more, a bigger space and more chairs will need to be arranged. Please confirm by 11 December, 2008, so that arrangements can be made. Mr. Vinod Kumar has done Post Graduate studies in Local Administration and has been involved with Village, District and Perspective Planning for the State of Kerala for the last ten years. He will be bringing along plans prepared through people's participation and implemented in Kerala after the passage of the 73rd and 74 th amendments to the Constitution of India. Those who would like to interact with him are requested to do so by appointment prior to the meeting. He will not be available for consultation after the meeting. The above is the official message. The note below is only indicative nothing official about it. It is proposed to have the meeting structured with a brief presentation of DRP 2021 maps and plans followed by the Keynote address by Mr. Vinod of Maitri [30 minutes] and a Question and Answer Session. The proceedings will be summed up before the adoption of resolutions on the way forward. Time is the essence. Please be on time at 4.00 P.M. An exhibition containing. Taluka level plans as per DRP 2021 of each of the eleven talukas and corresponding Google/ Digital Globe image will be set up, if possible. Participants who have obtained copies of DRP 2021, village maps, etc either by application or through RTI are requested to bring the copies along for discussion and sharing with others. The DRP 2021 Village Plans are quite indicative of what type of land is available and to what uses it can be put. It is for the people to decide on the final land use pattern for their villages in the next five to dozen years. We hope that the interaction will neither lay waste the work put in by the Task Forcenor the land that we love, Goa. This interaction is FACILITATED by the GBA to help reach a common understanding of the WAY FORWARD. The time to score Brownie points is over. It is a time to come together. Together Everyone Achieves More. Let that be our T.E.A.M. spirit. Feedback is solicited. Mog asundi Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] JP's swan song ......The Lying kind?
Dears, Close on heels of the news report in the NT [see clip below]of two fishing trawlers being intercepted by the Coast Guard/MPT and/or Coastal Police at Marmagoa Harbour, comes a report filed by my pretty debonaire friend in the ToI that is headlined Stop watersport activities by sunset:Police to operators followed by a TNN follow-up on the CS-gate that is titled There's hardly any reserve force in Goa. that informs us that even security of the Goa Governor [and former ICAO General Secretary] S.S. Sidhu, has already been outsourced to the CISF . as if Goa's Raj Bhavan was an industrial establishment [CISF = Central Industrial Security Force]. Two more companies of CISF have been requisitioned to bolster the two guarding our Dabolim airport and dear Governor, on either side of the Zuari river. In the meanwhile the USA, notably Ms. Condoleeza Rice, has stirred up the Pakistani curry with big piranha and barracuda-like fish being netted in Muzzafarabad's murky waters. All efforts are being made to clean up the waters of the Arabain Sea and the terror-tainted air above. On the festive day of Bakra Id today comes the story in the GT headlined Security beefed up for foreign tourists.starred hotels. Therein lies the tail of this story in which the tail wags the dog. GT report reads thus:The Mormugao PI, Sagar Ekoskar,informed that two American ships which arrived at Mormugao Port Trust (MPT) with 1300 American crew in goa were given police protectionfrom the time of arrival. A total of 10 police guards and armed personnel accompanied the Americans during their tour on Monday in Goa. Two things are clear: 1. The Goa Police Force is woefully stretched ...ten men to protect 1300 sailors and airmen on shore leave. 2. The US Sevent Fleet is here in Goa for Repairs and Refitting while the sailors head for Rest and Recuperation and the Goans learn to Rock and Roll. Did I hear a whoop? R, R Maha Dave! Let's sing The Al Qaeda does not know to Rock Roll to the tune of a similarly titled song in Goa. Happy C.S. ta! Mog asundi Miguel Coastal police intercept two fishing trawlers NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-12-05 VASCO Ensuring that no stone remains unturned in view of the security aspect in the coastal belt of Mormugao, the MPT, central industrial security force, Harbour Coastal Police, Mormugao police and Vasco police in a joint operation, intercepted a fishing trawler from Alleppy, Kerala on Thursday, and have booked the crew onboard, on suspicion and failing to produce identity cards. Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:23:32 -0800 From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] JP's swan song ..The Lying kind ? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dears, The front page news reports in today's newspapers in Goa have just stopped short of calling the Chief Secretary of Goa a Liar. That is the truth! If there is no Al Qaida terror threat to Goa, the Chief Secretary's note to the Cabinet Ministers, including the CM, is a deliberate attempt to mislead the Government ...officialese for a WHITE LIE. Secret Cabinet note warns of Qaida threat 8 Dec 2008, 0152 hrs IST, TNN PANAJI: The note (No. 1/13/2003-HD(G)/PF2), which was marked secret, states at item no 3 (a), Today Goa faces serious threat from terrorists and there were specific inputs that Al-Quada (sic) would target certain installation/target in Goa. The state of Goa has a vast coastline of 105 km, which has major sea posts and famous beaches. The note was signed by Singh. Get an email ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Old practice as a new Science.
Dears, Close on heels of what Dr. Anthony da Silva SJ, Jesuit Provincial of Goa said at the Principal Eduardo Soares Memorial lecture at St. Thomas HSS, Aldona, on Sunday 07 December, 2008, is this discussion that shows how ineffective corporal punishment is in bringing about desired change in behaviour. Dr Anthony da Silva SJ studied Philosophy in Munich-Germany and completed his doctorate in Psychology from University of Michigan-USA. His students are Pricipals and Headmasters of many institutions and the success of corporal punishment-free institutions has only to be seen. Belief comes immediately. Threat of punishment cannot achieve half of what love and consideration can. India and Pakistan are beginning to learn this, it seems, in dealing with terrorists. Both Asif Zardari and Sonia Gandhi have lost their spouses to terrorists. They know better than to fight terror with terror. If one of the advoctes of corporal punishment is made to kneel down on sand for an error of judgement, he or she will immediately see the other point of view. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:47:27 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Old Practice as New Science Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Threat of Punishment Works, Study Suggests http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081204/sc_livescience/threatofpunishmentworksstudysuggests Corporal punishment is not only found to be ineffective in children, but it has been shown to have deleterious effects on subsequent behavior. This form of disciplining has been banned in public and Catholic schools in 102 countries across the world. Here is an American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement on banning of corporal punishment in school children: http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics%3b106/2/343 Santosh Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
[Goanet] Money makes sense ....worldwide
lawmaker Senator Robert Menendez, Chairman of the subcommittee on foreign assistance, also called for ending aid to the countries which are unwilling to fight terrorism in their own territories. After several Indian community leaders made passionate speeches, Menendez said he would bring their view as also the fact the interests of India and the United States coincide so far fighting terrorism is concerned to the attention of the lawmakers. Expressing their full support to whatever steps the Indian government takes, the community leaders called for strong measures to fight terrorism and warning Pakistan in no uncertain term that New Delhi would not tolerate terrorist planning attacks on India from its soil. On their part, they pledged to continue to lobby with lawmakers to keep a steady pressure on Pakistan to take urgent steps to fight terrorists on its territory and linking aid to its successes in reining in terrorists. Stressing the need for the United States to put more pressure on Pakistan, Pallone said it is essentially a failed state as the central government does not control most of the territory. It is clear that even when it outlaws an organization, it continues to work through agitations, madrassas (religious schools) and social activities, Pallone underlined. He said if they (terror group) continue to exist by providing educational opportunities and social services, the Pakistan government has to go there and provide those services and not let these groups do the job. From the Indian perspective, Pallone said the most important lesson is to work with US and other countries to step up their security. That means sharing intelligence about terrorist cells, increasing cooperation among law enforcement agencies and knowhow on dealing with such situations, he said. Paying tribute to India for being model of cooperation and religious tolerance, he decried the efforts of the terrorists to pose as if they are Indian Muslims. The Congressman from New Jersey also advised foreigners planning to visit India against postponing their trip. They should not allow terrorists instill fear in them, he added. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Why should this not be the answer!!
Dear Dr. Barad, The Prime Minister of India is Dr. Manmohan Singh and the Home Minister is Mr. P. Chidambaram, both Congress MPs. The Chief Minister of Delhi was Ms. Sheila Dixit, also a Congress lady, and most likely she will be CM again as the BJP was hardly to be seen in Delhi on 29 November, 2008, the election day. I was in Delhi. The President of India was not unduly interested in hanging Afzal. If he was, he could have called for the file. He might not have got it, but at least theoretically he caould call for it as old King Cole called for hislute, pipes and his fiddlers three! If that be the case , why do you expect Marshall to execute the Supreme Court order? Do not let his name Marshall mislead you into believe he is some kind of enforcement officer between Air Chief Marshall and the Railwy yard marshall. that is just his name! ;-) May be you should file a contempt of Court against the Government of India, the President and others of your choice. Digu-bab has heard you on Goa University ...and even forgotten to demand for a separate Central University as his other Committees had suggested!! Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:53:01 +0530 From: Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Why should this not be the answer!! To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To read what our respected ex President A P J Abdul Kalam had said, on his last day as President of India, click the link provided: http://indiaabroad.com/news/2007/jul/27parl.htm Under directives of Soniamia, UPA Home Ministry preferred to send the file to Delhi government under a pretext that the petition requires the views of the state where the crime has occurred. And Delhi government, again under instructions of Soniamia, till date, is seen not in any hurry to convey its view on the file/case. Finally, one question to our brilliant Marshall: Now tell me whether Afzal should be hanged or UPA government? Marshall, study the case and come back to this forum again. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Say-I dont want to vote... may be a good option for the dumbos.
Dears, The first and most important lesson to learn is this: WIKIPEDIA IS ONLY INDICATIVE. It is not necessarily the Truth. The specific point to be noted here is that one can go to the polling booth, get oneself identified as a voter, be marked with indelible ink, collect the 'ballot paper' [or, in the case of EVM, the 'polling slip' to be given to the Presiding Officer for release of the voting key of the EVM] and after all the process, refuse to vote. It is perfectly legal exercise of Rule 49-O [Forty-nine Oh , not Zero] of Election Rules under the Representation of the People Act in India. No one hides that law or rule. Very few exercise this rule, knowingly or unknowingly [often leaving the Presiding Officer sweating, if he or she does not know 49-0 either!]. The Presiding Officer puts these details in a separate envelope [with the relevant ballot or slip] and writes it in his diary of election and the Statistics of votes polled sheet. That is all. Rule 49-O in an exercise in futility ...not glamourous as my friend Ethel or others make it out to be. One cannot FORCE RE-POLL by exercising Rule 49-0. The parallel to that can be found in Bollywood films where the heroine is stood up by some vain dude and she marries her childhood love. In the case of a catholic marriage, the bride may end up marrying the Best Man if the Groom develops cold feet at the altar as some voters do at the Polling cubicle or compartment [generally a table with a card board enclosure on the top] where the EVM or the ballot paper is to be marked as per one's choice .or lack of it. In the good old days some people simple stamped the table and inserted a BLANK ballot paper. That option is no longer there with the EVM ...the Electronic Voting Machine that even an illiterate person who is politically savvy uses in an impoverished India, but is yet to make its presence felt in USA ...except in Sci-Fi movies! In any case, most of those who discuss Rule 49-0 are those who have NEVER VOTED in their entire life time thus far and are unlikely to stand in a queue for two or three hours to foolishly tell the Presiding Officer that they will NOT vote. The Presiding Officer cannot allow anyone to make a speech in the Polling Booth ...not even the candidates in the election so the question of making a statement does not arise, save a fashion statement. Even then, one has to go decently dressed to vote, or one can be arrested for indecent exposure under routine Cr. P.C. sections on public morality. I know this because I have served as a Presiding Officer for elections for Parliament, Assembly, Municipality and Panchayat between 1983 and 1996. The only elections I have not helped conduct are Zilla Panchayats [or ZP] as these came in later ...after rules were framed under the Goa Panchayati Raj Act, 1994, and constituencies were delimited for ZP members. However, the same rules apply. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:29:03 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Say-I dont want to vote... may be a good option show anger against politician Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This isn't true! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49-O SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: THE CONDUCT OF ELECTIONS RULES, 1961 http://lawmin.nic.in/ld/subord/cer1.htm 49-O. Elector deciding not to vote.- If an elector, after his electoral roll number has been duly entered in the register of voters in Form-17A and has put his signature or thumb impression thereon as -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] JP's swan song ......The Lying kind ?
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[Goanet] DRP 2021 explained by GBA at Ponguinim on 07/12/2008
Canaconkars understand DRP 2021 better with inputs from GBA The villagers of Poinguinim , Cotigao and nearby villages between the Talpona and Galgibag rivers in coastal Canacona interacted with the GBA team consisting of GBA Co-Convener, Secretary and Joint Secretary along with the technical expert, Architect Dean D’Cruz, Member of the State Level Committee on DRP 2021 and earlier on the Task Force [both chaired by the Chief Minister of Goa], who is an active member of the GBA Core Group. Leroy Veloso, the point man at the GBA office in Porvorim, rendered valuable support in conducting the exhibition and the presentation. The interaction consisted of three parts dove-tailed together: 1. a presentation by GBA Secretary, Ms. Reboni Saha, on how to read a plan and what to look for in the draft Village Plan given to each Panchayat on 22 November, 2008, 2. an exhibition of the DRP 2021 Plan for South Goa district [Map B2], map for Canacona taluka [Map D5] and maps for Ponguinim village in DRP 2021 and RP 2011, both enlarged from the taluka maps and overlaid with Survey boundaries as well as a Digital Globe image of Poinguinim from the internet and 3. interaction with the participants, from the villages and GBA team. The village panchayats have the all important VILLAGE PLANS under DRP 2021, which were prepared AFTER the Task Force was wound up in mid-September, 2008 and the Town Country Planning Dept. took over the responsibility of preparing the plans, ostensibly as decided by the Task Force. Therein lies the catch. The true colours are literally showing in the village plans. The villagers took the enlarged image of the village Poinguinim from the Taluka Plans [Map D5] for comparison with the Village Plan officially given to their Panchayat in the TCP kit that is being expalined by the TLTTs these days in each Taluka. [Bardez, Pernem, Tiswadi and Ponda have been covered so far] Arch Dean D'Cruz, Sabina Martins and Miguel Braganza spoke on the PARTICIPATORY Planning Process and how the Draft Regional Plan 2021 can be the basis of proceeding further as per the Constitution of India in the light of Article 243 after the 73rd and 74th amendments Some residents from Shellim-Loliem had also come for the interaction, armed with a petition opposing the change in zone of the seafront plot under survey No. 330/1 of Loliem village. It is their ardent plea that no one should be allowed to violate CRZ rules by cutting trees and building sheds with 200 metres of HTL as well as sinking four bore wells without NOC of the Panchayat. No it is not a “hotel” project but rather a residential rent-back facility. If you want to know the difference between the two ask the TTAG or TCP Dept. The participants are obviously happy with the interaction. Next Sunday morning [14 December]the GBA Team has been invited to do a presentation at Burmar in Karaxir Moll ward of Agonda village in Canancona for the villagers of Agonda and Kholla. The Aldona Bachao Abhiyan is hosting an interaction in Aldona the same day. Earlier, there was a request from Prasad Shahapurkar to have similar presentations in Mandrem and Kerim village panchayats as the people are greatly troubled by the golf course that appears in their village plan at Terekhol. Prasad was one of the first persons to organize a protest meeting at Mandrem market in Pernem taluka against the now revoked RP 2011 on 24 December, 2006, less than a week after the public launch of GBA at Azad Maidan on 18 December. From Terekhol to Palolem, the people are awakening again. The same restlessness that led to the revocation of RP 2011 is being felt. Republic Day is coming up. The first line of preamble to the Constitution of India that came into force on 26 January, 1950 reads thus: “We, the People of India, solemnly….” The Republic is coming of age in the 25th state of the Indian Union: Goa. Mog asundi Miguel Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
Re: [Goanet] GOA State Police Complaints Authority - Chairman involved in accident
Dears, All my growing up years till age 18 years, I have lived next to a steep gradient on the then NH-17 at Mapusa and have witnessed many a gory accident due to brake failure,driver's inability to shift gears shiftly enough to avoid the fatal back-slide in neutral or sheer reckless driving. Fotunately, I have not lost someone close to a traffic accident as Mr. John Eric Gomes has borne the loss of a teenaged son. I have, however, picked up many a person run over by vehicles, the worst being a boy at Mulgao run over by a mini-bus who died in my arms after first aid at the Bicholim cottage hospital, which had neither doctors nor equipment to handle the traumatic child of about six years. There I was, sitting helplessly with jeans and shirt soaked in the blood of a child unknown to me but nonetheless a precious life as any of my own blood. One should not rule out complicity till one has verified. Murders look more like accidents than real accidents. They are meticulously planned to look that way. The recent example is the accidental death of the Matka King. If the CBI case about 20 something years old Sister Abhaya's death is anything to go by, even priests and nuns are capable of well executed murders that look like suicides or accidental deaths. Cops are much more hardened than priests and nuns. Adv. Aires Rodrigues made a huge hue and cry about Fr. Newton fondling the breast of a 14 year old girl in Ribander and the press lapped it. One married woman in Porvorin says the Police Inspector, while on duty and at the Police station, grabbed her breast in the presence of her husband who had gone to lodge a complaint of assault on her. It made a small mention in one Marathi newspaper. Former ADC to the Governor of Goa is the SP who shares the same premises and controls this Police Inspector. The death of Mrs. Thelma Pinto e Santana Silva and the injury of Justice [Retd] Eurico da Santana Silva should preferably be investigated by the CBI to rule out the possibility of Police complicity in the death. If they can beat up an MLA and a Zilla Panchayat member in full public view, the Goa Police can do anything. Or have we forgotten 19 February, 2008 already?? As head of the Goa SPCA for cops, Justice [Retd] Eurico Santana Silva has hauled up many cops, including Superintendents of the Police and, if I recall right, even their higher ups. They do not exactly love him. If the Goa Police is innocent, the CBI probe will certify that. So where is the cause to fear. Let the truth be known .unambiguously. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:52:52 -0500 From: John Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA State Police Authority - Chairman involved inaccident Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since 1988 when I lost my teenaged son in a road accident,I tried everything, PILs, call on CMs,DG Police,Traffic SPs, Collectors, RTOs, Chief Secretaries, NGos . I found good suggestions cannot be implemented, cockeyed political ideas prevail, and what we have now is madness on the roads. ..JEG -- Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:54:03 -0500 From: Ruben Quadros [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a close member of the extended family. Appreciate your views but the accident was just an accident and not on purpose. Let's not give rise to any doubts in the minds of group members. Ruben Quadros -- Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID. Get [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Can we Walk the Talk? or Are we just a set of Walky-Talkies?
Dears, This forward by Ruben to Vascokars United hits the nail on its head. Everyone wants everybody else to do things for him. One only needs to watch the NDTV show by Srinivasan Jain to know how condescending the affluent self-appointed elite can get! Mumbai Terror ...and that at Taj and Oberoi Trident ...get the prime slots. The Nariman House is of peripheral interest because it had Israeli and USA connections and Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus [CST] does not even enter the camera frame except for glimpses of the terrorist who was caught. The poor can die. It does not matter. Khandhamal, Guwahati, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad? Most of us do not even know where they are ...and if we do, who cares? SUBVERSE Terrorised by TV by Anil Dharkar on Edit page 8 in the Times of India today [5/12/08] says it all. If one needs further reminder, than the Goa-based, Booker Prize nominee, Amitav Ghosh, says it in India's 9/11? Not exactly on page 9. It is no different when it comes to fighting against the Regional Plan for Goa 2021, which seeks to subvert the Constitution of India !!! Elitism is a goal in itself. All the others are cannon fodder for the greater glory of the greatest class . of hypocrites!! Mog asundi, Miguel --- On Fri, 5/12/08, Ruben Quadros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [VascokarsUnited] Interesting To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 5 December, 2008, 10:33 AM This is a report from a friend of mine who was physically present at a rally outside the Gateway of India post the Mumbai attacks. Interesting reading on why we are the way we are . . . . . No other race in the world can beat us at one thing - Expecting others to do what we can . . . .. and complaining if it is not done. Jai Hind! Ruben. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Hi, Was there at gateway... i guess the Indian youth have become masters in mental masturbation. ... or we are all CEO's... i.e we know how to give direction to others ( and when it comes to implement... ahem...) ... Mumbai wanted 3200 bottles of blood..on thursday it took 60 hrs to gather it. and Nariman point itself has 4 lac people working... we should have been able to rustle that quantity in minutes... 100 bottles of blood came from Hyderabad... .and yesterday all youngsters decked up were shouting slogans. Pakistan murdabad.. etc politicians chor hai in a public forum i participated. ... we had some young guys saying we should attack Pakistan I just asked... ( all were 23-28 years old guys) how many of you have even thought of joining army? there was a silence and humming and hawing... i asked an old man... why did you not send your son to army... he didn't have any answer... i just asked... how many of you donated blood in the last 3 days a deafening silence they all want some other guys to storm Pakistan and lay down their lives... but I, or my relatives... well no way we'll do that any guesses as to who is a bigger threat to India... we ourselves... or Pakistan?.. Another joker..a prominent Goan...another archair intellectual. .. said haughtily... name me one politician in India who is not corrupt. an elderly man replied/none. .. we should sack all politicians was his rejoinder... upon being asked what after that no reply how do we clean politics no reply. the elderly man said if you don't have ability to carry multiple people with you... and mobilise people to support you. don't give frivolous views. that elderly mans suggestion was... get some honest candidates.. .. get them to stand for elections... start from corporator level... and then clean the system...yourself. ..because. ... people get the government and society they deserve the elderly man hails from Nuvem and has been a Bandra-ite for over 60 years.. and his nephew has got elected as a Corporator.. . he said... cleaning up system is a 10 year job be prepared for a long trudgeparticipate or you don't have a right to whine and complain like a kid... it struck me that somewhere... we are all failing in our duty as citizens and blaming the system. and everybody else but ourselves. Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Coast Guard, Goa cops: Same difference to terrorists!
Dears, The rich and the powerful think they can get off with anything and everything. It is time Admiral Suresh Mehta realises it is not so simple. It is time the NDTV also gives some respect to privacy and act less condescending about the poor policemen who , like Tennyson's Charge of the Light Brigade died when they were sent in to face an enemy they were not prepare or trained for. One funny thing is that, Dr. Jack de Sequeira, the Father of the Opinion Poll raised daughters who had rather poor opinion of Goan boys: not one married a Niz Goykar. The only parallel that I can think of is Mummy Victoria and Rudolf of Goa Protectors fame who have similar non-Goan in-laws. Asking questions is considered stupid. We even admonish children when they ask questions while we perpetuate the Emperor's clothes scenario. If you see the naked truth, you are dumb! Thankfully, Amitav Ghosh, Anil Dharkar [both in TOI of 5/12/2008], Dr. Teotonio de Souza [Herald 6/12/08] and others have begun asking questions. Otherwise the likes of Soter D'Souza, Adv. Jatin Naik or Miguel Braganza would be considered as unmitigated dolts. Mog asundi Miguel Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: ECONOMIC TIMES: Coast Guard let off Kuber after terrorists gave fake I-cards http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Coast_Guard_let_off_ Kuber_after_terrorists_gave_fake_I-cards/articleshow/3786023.cms INDIAN EXPRESS: Navy Chief fumes at media, gets facts wrong http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Navy-Chief-fumes-at-media--gets-facts-wron g/393869 INDIAN EXPRESS: Navy chief upset with electronic media http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Navy-Chief-fumes-at-media--gets-facts-wrong/393869 THE HINDU: Systemic failure: Navy Chief http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/03/stories/2008120355221000.htm VOANEWS: Indian Maritime Forces Rebuff Criticism in Wake of Mumbai Attack http://voanews.com/english/2008-12-02-voa16.cfm PTI: Navy within law to sink pirated ship: Mehta http://www.ptinews.com/pti\ptisite.nsf/0/900D5013CC4E00EB65257513004962F4?Op enDocument INDIAN EXPRESS: Antony pulls up Navy Chief, asks to explain security lapse http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Antony-pulls-up-Navy-Chief--asks-to-explain-security-lapse/392984 INDIAN EXPRESS: Sideshow: Navy, Army publicity hunt http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sideshow-navy-army-publicity-hunt/392034/ SOME HIGHLIGHTS (Express' view): A day after he lashed out at the media at the annual Navy briefing, calling it a 'disabling factor' and accusing a leading television channel of causing casualties during the Kargil war, Admiral Sureesh Mehta once again showed his disdain for the media at the Navy Day ceremony. The Admiral when approached by mediapersons after the ceremony said I don't talk to fools and left the venue. Senior Defence Ministry officials described the Admiral's comments as 'unfortunate' and 'uncalled for'. Such ranting is uncalled for. He should have exercised restraint. There are other ways of tackling the situation, a senior official said. Meanwhile, NDTV has demanded a public apology from the Navy chief for his charge that the death of three jawans during the Kargil conflict was caused due to coverage by the channel. The Navy is believed to have replied that the comments were made on the basis of a story on a little known TV channel and an internet blog. CHECK BARKHA DUTT'S RESPONSE to criticism on Facebook and Orkut: Finally, I would like to point out that the Navy Chief made a factually incorrect and wholly untrue comment on NDTV's coverage during the Kargil conflict of 1999, claiming that NDTV asked for a gun to be triggered for the benefit of the camera. I want to state for the record: no such incident ever took place and we have an official aknowledgment of that, including from then Army Chief, V.P Malik. I would urge Admiral Mehta to read General V.P Malik's book on Kargil for further clarity. General Malik was the Army Chief during the operations and puts to rest any such controversy in his book. In a formal letter, NDTV has also asked for an immediate retraction from the Navy and officially complained that the comments amount to defamation. Several writers have already pointed out how the Navy Chief has got his facts wrong. (DNA, Indian Express, Vir Sanghvi in The Hindustan Times, Sankarshan Thakur in The Telegraph). This, incidentally, was the same press conference where the Admiral threatened literally to chop the heads off of two other reporters who aired his interview ahead of schedule. http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/mumbaiterrorstrike/Story.aspx?ID=COLEN2 0080075194type=opinion -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490 Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID get [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Goanet] GOA State Police Authority - Chairman involved in accident
Dears, It will be interesting to know to whom the water tanker GA-01-T-7272 belongs. Numbers with repetition of digits come at a price [officially since the 1990s] from the RTO. The Cortalim-Margao road has a RCC median at Verna but not at Kesarval, where the accident reportedly occured. Mog asundi. Miguel Tanker driver arrested NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-12-05 VASCO The Verna police have arrested the driver of a tanker, Kamlesh Kumar Bind (26) of Vasco, which was involved in an accident that was reported on the highway at Verna on Wednesday. A woman was killed in the accident. According to the investigating police officer, Mr Nolasco Raposo said that he has been arrested under section 304 (A) of Indian Penal Code upon a complaint lodged by Mr Carlos Santana Da Silva on Thursday. Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:46:10 -0500 From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GOA State Police Authority - Chairman involved in accident Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Things like teaching people safety, civil behavior, driving etiquette, courtesy, etc., other than the obvious A lot of social education was left undone and unfinished. Perhaps we do not take to self-education too kindly. There was no honking, no startling the children in anyway including sudden braking, yelling, leering, just, I presume a certain dignity towards them. That image has stayed with me. Some day I hope people are taught to look across classes and social positions -- taking into consideration their circumstances. I would think these are issues that the Governments Secretaries should be looking at. This is not rocket science we are talking about, and that too is pretty simple as shown by our earlier President. People matter dammit. This business of taking, taking, taking -- has to end someplace. My condolences to the family of Mr Eurico Santana Silva. May Thelma Pinto e Silva rest in peace. Venantius J Pinto From: godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GOA State Police Authority - Chairman involved in accident In a tragic accident last night at 2220 hrs the official car No: GA-03-G-8008 in which Justice (Retd) Bombay High Court , Mr Eurico Santana Silva was travelling collided with an oncoming water tanker GA-01-T-7272 just beyond the Titan junction on the NH 17 towards the Cortalim- Margao road as confirmed to this writer telephonically with the Verna Police Station today. The accident took place at a spot where there is no road divider, according the police official . Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Vasco based cops getting efficient overnight? or just media savvy?
Dears, Below are three clippings from the Navhind Times today 5/12/08] Days after reports and even editorial criticism in the NT [besides the Prudent Media video footageon 4.12/08], the Coastal Police Station, Mamagoa Harbour/Vasco has Intercepted two fishing trawlers. Hey! Don't go into a dream sequence imagining the CPS staff, freshly back from Law Disorder duty at INOX or Kala Academy for IFFI, chasing pirates in their speed boats and blazing away with 20 mm cannons or putting a shell across the bow of the erring vessel. All the CPS-Harbour has is a canoe with an outboard motor ...and no technical staff to operate it!! The boats were apparently detained after they had docked to pick up provisions and to get medical treatment to one of the ailing fisherman! Makes a good news item ... Detaining [NOT arresting] 18 fishermen just the same. The Actionable word intercept also embellishes the news to make it worthy of mention in a James Bond Film. The 300 persons held or rounded up [again NOT arrested] in the raids at Khariwada will turn out to be Oriya or Bengali fishermen employed by the fishing trawlers. If they are detained over the weekend, your fish will cost you dearly. I do hope that the accident of Justice Eurico Santana da Silva's car was not on purpose. He lost his wife, Thelma, in the tragic accident and is seriously injured. As the Chairman of the Goa State Police Complaints Authority [the SPCA for Police men], he was a thorn in the side of many a senior policeman, hauling them up for harrassing the people whom they are supposed to serve. Accidents can be quite convenient. They say Mark Fernandes and Evagrio Jorge died of an accident right near what is now the Panaji Residency. When I was still a school boy, my classmate Debashsih Burman's, father died of an accident. Accidents do happen, you know. these are dangerous days. See what happened in the accident of 9/11 in New York. Why do they build such tall buildings when there are planes flying in the air? If one values one's life, one should travel in an APC or a Battle tank! Even after the transfer of Mohan Naik and others from Panaji city to Altinho, it looks like the Indian sun [Ravi] will still miss home. May be Public Works will be a suitable golden handshake. With all the fishermen from Orissa being harrassed, Churchill may have an uphill task ...and I am not Joking! ;-) Mog asundi Miguel PS I just love the SRK in Rab ne banaya jodi look of the Mapusa MLA, also a Ba-bush at a time Obama is saying to the other Hogo- Bush to George Bush or to use Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan's father's words, Po da ;-) .. Coastal police intercept two fishing trawlers NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-12-05 VASCO Ensuring that no stone remains unturned in view of the security aspect in the coastal belt of Mormugao, the MPT, central industrial security force, Harbour Coastal Police, Mormugao police and Vasco police in a joint operation, intercepted a fishing trawler from Alleppy, Kerala on Thursday, and have booked the crew onboard, on suspicion and failing to produce identity cards. In another incident, the Harbour Coastal Police have also detained one fishing trawler from Tamil Nadu, which had entered into Goan waters seeking medical attention for one of its onboard crew member. In all 18 crew from these two trawlers have been arrested under section 41 of Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC). According to the information, the MPT vessel while patrolling the sea along with the help of CISF personnel intercepted a fishing trawler at around 5.30 p.m. namely, Cinan, which is registered in Alleppy, Kerala. The MPT personnel passed the message to the Coast Guard who in turn intimated the Harbour coastal police and Mormugao police. Upon verification and search conducted by the police personnel, it was found that the trawler was carrying only fish. The fishing trawler has entered Goa to buy food and provisions for their return journey. While in the second case, the Harbour coastal police have detained a fishing trawler namely Arokya Annai which is registered at Tamil Nadu Over 300 held in Vasco combing operation NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-12-05 VASCO In a joint combing operation conducted by Vasco, Mormugao and Verna police, over 300 suspected persons were rounded up from Khariwada area of Vasco on late Thursday night. The deputy superinten-dent of police, Vasco, Mr Deu Banaulikar informed that the police picked up over 300 persons from Khariwada jetty, Non-Mon, Saibini Bhaat and Khariwada Hindu crematorium locality. The persons who failed to provide their identity and have been residing as tenants in fishermen?s dwellings in entire Khariwada belt were picked up, said Mr Banaulikar. The combing operation is part of security check and it would continue in the other parts of Mormugao taluka. Informing that more migrants would be picked up from coastal
[Goanet] Check how 'dirty' Goa Police can be..
Dear Joe, When we were little children we played the game of Cops and Robbers or Chor-Pulis. It is only in recent years that we have learnt that the Konkani term for the game is more appropriate ...robbing cops! The game begins with the need to pay a fee allegedly of Rs.13 lakhs... to confirm one's berth in the selected list after passing the physical, written and oral tests in the selection process to become a trainee Police sub-inspector. Once you begin the recovery process, the sickness afflicts one like AIDS or drug addiction. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:25:08 + (GMT) From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Check how 'dirty' Goa Police can be.. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you ever hear the Goa Police involved in stealing ? read this.. At Goa Dabolim International Airport, some unknown culprit entered into the Flamingo Duty Free Shop by digging a hole into the wall and attempted to steal Duty Free items worth about Rs. 3.5 lacs. Investigation revealed that it was none other than a Police Constable Hemant Kankonkar who was actually involved in the burglary. Mr. Kankonkar was attached to the Police Outpost at Dabolim Airport. Ever heard of Goa Police selling drugs in Goa? Two Calangute constables caught selling heroin Panaji: Two constables from Calangute police station were caught red-handed while trying to sell heroin worth about Rs 3 lakh at Calangute late Wednesday evening. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOI/navigator.asp?Daily=TOIGOlogin=default GOEMCHEA MHOJEA POLICE MAMA, KITEM GA TUMCHIM KAMA ?? Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Seminaron RP 2021-16th Dec 2008-Nanutel, Margao
Dears, A copy of the regional plan is available at http://goagovt.nic.in/tcp/ . Also see www.savegoa.com Dr. Jenifer Lewis Kamat from Vasco, with a Ph.D in engineering from Birmingham-UK, is perhaps the most qualified Civil Engineer in Goa today. You bet, I am proud to know her and her engineer husband, Rotarian Bharat Kamat, personally. I do hope Mr. S.T. Puttaraju goes well prepared to answer how public roads have disappeared from DRP 2021 plans, how Eco Sensitive Zone-1 paddy fields in Chicalim wetlands have been painted as settlement zones, how non-convertible Private Forests have become convertible Orchards or directly as industial estates in the DRP-2021. May be it will be nice to invite the Margao based graphic artist, Mr. Ashok da Costa, to explain the disrepencies in the DRP 2021 plans which he reportedly plotted for the Task Force on RP 2021 from which fortunately the Goa Bachao Abhiyan extricated itself before the final report fulfilling the prophesy of druze poet from Lebanon, Khalil Gibran, when he wrote thus in The Prophet: No Problem approaches a Man except with an Opportunity in its hands. We grabbed that Opportunity while the moon overshadowed the sun on 01 August, 2008, ...and have hugged her tight ever since. It is time to tell the Emperor [of Goa] that he is naked ... just as his name says it in Sanskrit and many other Indian languages. That is the naked Truth. After that, let Goa go to the Drawing Board ...village by 189 villages, taluka by taluka for North and South Goa Districts. Let the District Planning Committees [DPC] finalise their plans for each half of Goa ...and send it from their drawing boards to the TCP Board. That is what is called Bottom-Up Planning. [What we say at cocktail dinners is BottomS-Up ...and it is often unplanned.]. That is what the Article 243 of Constitution of India says .and the Governments in India are sworn by the Constitution of India, not by the Regional Plans!! Since Civil Engineers know how to read Plans, it is hoped they will expose the Renegades!! The Goa Bachao Abhiyan [GBA], the Ganv Ghor Rakhon Manch [GGRM], the Council for Social Justice Peace, Utth Goenkara [minus Advocate-at-large], Aldona Bachao Abhiyan, Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan, the Village-level Civic and Consumer Forums of GOACAN, the Centre for Panchayati Raj [CPR], the Panchayat Mahila Shakti Abhiyan [PMSA], the Zilla Panchayats, the Village Gram Sabhas and others will be debating the DRP 2021 with the people of Goa. Those who do not debate and take the issue forward are heretics who do not bear witness to the Truth and , to borrow Dr. Oscar Rebelo's terminology, anti-Goans !! I do not know if anti-Goans who pervert the Constitution of India can be true Indians ...even if they get mistaken recognition as leaders like some smugglers who become Freedom Fighter pensioners by paying for a co-prisoner certificate in the 1970s as candidates pay for selection as PSI's or RTO inspectors now. How can one uphold the law with a stolen goose in hand or bank? Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:50:04 -0500 From: Jen Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Seminar-Symposium on RP 2021-16th Dec 2008-Hotel Nanutel Margao Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, Please find below an invitation from the Institution of Engineers (India) Goa local center to all its members, for a seminar/symposium on Goa Regional Plan 2021. The Government of Goa calls upon us as a body of Engineers to give our views on the Regional Plan. This seminar is meant to discuss and form our representation to the RP 2021. A copy of the regional plan is available at http://goagovt.nic.in/tcp/ . See you there, Regards, Dr.Jen = = = == Seminar on Tuesday 16th December at Hotel Nanutel Margao from 3:30PM to 8PM. (1) Presentation of the RP2021 document by Shri. S.T. Puttaraju, Senior Town Planner and Member of Task Force. 2. Question Hour to clarify any doubts 3. Recording of suggestions/ objections from members for compilation of the submission document. The Seminar is open to all members of the Institution. The Seminar will conclude with cocktails and dinner. PRAKASH BORKAR (Chairman) MARIA PEREIRA (Hon. Secretary) P.G. KANTAK (Convener, Civil Engineering Division) E. MONIZ (Convener, Civil Engineering Division) THOMAS D'COSTA (Convener,Civil Engineering Division) == Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID get [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Konkani adages: A long loin-cloth, an useless boast
Dear Rico, Laamb til naikanche, ghorant hal bailanche Longer the 'til' (vermillion line applied on forehead after morning puja) of the lords, greater the trouble for their wives at home The actual connotation of Bail in a Naik's house is generally about a Naikinn or external service provider also known as Kolvont, Rakhel or Thaylleli ...the woman ...other than one's wife ...who was kept at home by the Naik or Sawkar. This system was similar to the Devdasi system but without the elaborate dedication in the temple as at Soundatti or Yellapur till CM Gundu Rao had the guts to stop it by force [In 1980, even a lady Superintendent of Police was paraded nude while trying to prevent the practice. In 1981 Gundu Rao sent Armed Police in full riot gear and issued shoot at sight orders to finally stop the teribble practice of dedication once and for all times] There is a reason why the word laamb is used instead of vhoddlo to describe the Til or Tilak To translate that as mere harrassment of wife by an externally devout Hindu of a higher social bracket such as Naik or Lieutenant [as in Naik Hawaldar or Naik Subedar], is to forget history and context of the saying. Mor sundor, paiem kalle The peacock is beautiful but his legs are dark Would also translate as Even a beautiful peacock has black feet meaning metaphorically Even the apparently beautiful have something to hide. Literal translation hardly do justice to the beautiful sayings in Konkani. Morunk zai ieketch pavtti, toiar raunk sobar pavtti One must die but once, but be prepared all the time. That is the unfortunate truth for the brave. Cowards die a thousand times, anyway! ;-) I would also suggest that TSKK or GKA look at the orthography/spelling Perhaps the suggested correct spelling of once is yekech. Fr. Matthew Almeida sj's book Konkani Course in Roman Script available for Rs.250/- at Broadway Book Centre and the GKA book 'Methodology orf Writing Konkani in Roman script available at GKA at Patto, opposite Shyansundar Photo studio for Rs.20/- are good guides, even though they differ slightly on some issues. There is still some confusion ...but we are on the right track. The good news is that Daniel D'Souza's Konknni Martir Florian Vaz Puroskar winning book Koslich Malis Nastana not only won the KBM award this year, but has also gone into a revised edition. This is something rare in Konkani publication [other than text books and orthography] . in any script !! Having said that, it is really wonderful that Valmiki Faleiro is documenting some of the sayings that may otherwise be lost to posterity. Great job in itself. I hope we can help to make it better. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:57:47 +0530 From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Konkani adages: A long loin-cloth, an useless boast Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laamb til naikanche, ghorant hal bailanche Longer the 'til' (vermillion line applied on forehead after morning puja) of the lords, greater the trouble for their wives at home Morunk zai ieketch pavtti, toiar raunk sobar pavtti One must die but once, but be prepared all the time Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Police Intelligence: Paradox or possibility in Goa?
discussed at length, in a bid to strengthen security at these sensitive sites. Sources in the collector's office informed that oil companies have been asked to take additional security measures since the both IOC and HPCL are located very close to the Khariwado sea shore. Later in the evening, Mormugao Deputy Collector Levinson Martins, Vasco DySP Deu Banavlikar and oil company official inspected the Indian oil tanks and Hindustan oil tanking in Vasco and Ammonia tanks at Sada. A report in this regard will be submitted to the collector's office regarding additional security measures to be adopted by the oil companies. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Festachim Porbim - Happy Feast
and the local Portuguese commandant of the region. His efforts with the Parava fishing community to the east of Cabo Camurin [Cape Camorin] were being watched with interest by the Mukuva fisherfolk who lived on the western side of the Cabo Camurim. Fr. Francisco's efforts in 1544 ensured their conversion to Christianity. By now, he had memorised the necessary phrases and sentences in the Tamil language. Several thousand Mukuvas were baptised and given Portuguese names. It is while he was with the Mukuvas that Fr. Francisco heard about the massacre of several hundred natives of nearby Mannar. The Hindu King of Jaffna, in northern Ceilao, now Sri Lanka upon hearing of the conversion of these Mannars to Christianity, sent his men to their villages and slew them. In another part of Ceilao, the Crown Prince of Kotte was murdered after he was baptised . The fate, befallen these martyrs greatly disturbed Fr. Francisco. He had to find a method of protecting his flock. What is quite clear from all accounts is, that Fr. Francisco communicated quite regularly with his fellow Jesuits, the Portuguese Governor of Goa, King Joao III of Portugal and Pope Paul III . Many of these letters were written in Cochin, then an important Portuguese port, now Kochi, in the Indian State of Kerala. He returned to Goa in 1548. A new Viceroy, Dom Joao de Castro was in office. The Portuguese elite and some members of the clergy in the city, still smarting from the stinging comments about them by Fr. Francisco to their King, began a smear campaign against the Jesuit. The Viceroy was advised that Fr. Francisco was a 'meddler' and 'mischief maker', who was 'partial' to his fellow Spaniards. Upon meeting Fr. Francisco, however, Dom Joao realised that he was an honest and religious man who had a gripe against the immorality and corruption among the government officials in Goa. Thereafter, he frequently sought advice and guidance from Fr. Francisco. Fr. Francisco formally took over teaching at the College of the Holy Faith in 1548. This college trained secular priests from all over Asia and the eastern seaboard of Africa. These 'natives of distant lands' travelled back to their homelands to carry on the work of the Church. ( The majority of priests in Goa today are secular. They provide for the flock of Goan Catholics in parishes all over Goa. ) Fr. Francisco's next journey would be to Japan. The evil ways of the Portuguese officials and elite in Old Goa, the perils of the numerous sea journeys to the far flung lands, the complicated politics of the days - some involving the duplicity and cunning of the Portuguese commandants in those lands - the struggles with the poor fisherfolk on either side of the Cabo Camurim, the anxiety over the risks these poor people faced for having converted to the Christian way of life and the horrible massacre of the Mannars by the Hindus must have caused deep anguish to Fr. Francisco. The Paravas, however, resisted all the pressure they faced from the neighbouring peoples. They have remained faithful to Christianity till this day - a fine testimony to the effort of Fr. Francisco. Conversions from Hinduism on the Indian subcontinent have mainly been from the lower classes and castes. It was also a means for the people of the lower castes to escape the unmitigated, unrelenting subjugation to and humiliation by the upper castes. After all, the structure of the caste system ensured that the down-trodden had no hope of overcoming the caste based discrimination - ever. In the 1950s, millions of lower caste Hindus escaped this 'Karma' or 'fate' by converting to Buddhism. Francisco de Xavier was canonized in 1622, along with his mentor Ignacio de Loyola. Today, the unpreserved but as-yet-undisintegrated body of St. Francisco lies in a wooden coffin inside a silver casket in the Basilica de Bom Jesus in Old Goa. It can be seen in the chapel, as one turns right, at the main altar of the basilica. The casket has a glass window through which, the head is clearly seen. There have been numerous expositions and millions of people of all faiths and countries have seen the body. The body has gradually lost some of its moisture and future expositions have been restricted. Photography during The Feast Of St. Francis Xavier By William Rodrigues KEEP IN TOUCH WITH GOA THROUGH THE PRINT MEDIA http://www.v-ixtt.com http://www.gulabonline.com http://www.oheraldo.in http://www.navhindtimes.com COLLECTION OF KONKANI POEMS OF LINO B. DOURADO http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems/ http://www.ordinarywords.com/questforlife/ Source: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1544 *** -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Terror: Appropriate response from the state.
that also cost time and lives. In addition to the creation of a special police unit devoted to going after identified terrorists, India needs to ensure that political correctness does not stand in the way of combating terrorism. Also, reform within the police is badly needed to ensure that political interference in its work is reduced. The reforms must also target endemic corruption, which too often enables terrorists to make their way through security screens. Does the country have the political will necessary for such reform? If not, India will continue to pay a heavy price in lost growth and lives. The rest of the world also needs to heed the wake-up call of Mumbai. Because many of those killed in Mumbai were affluent, the elite in India has at last awakened to the reality of terrorism. Over the past five years, more than 2,000 lives have been lost because of terrorist-related activities just in Maharashtra, yet little has been done because the victims were almost all poor and dispossessed. Now that the terrorists have struck at India's billionaires and millionaires, perhaps the elites will finally take action to reduce the country's vulnerability. Unless the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks -- whoever they are and wherever they may be -- are identified and punished, this tragedy will be followed by similar attacks in the West as surely as the Kandahar hijacking (during which key terrorist leaders were released in exchange for hostages) was the precursor to 9/11. M. D. Nalapat holds the UNESCO Peace Chair and is a director of the Department of Geopolitics at Manipal University in Southern India. The views expressed in this commentary are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect those of RFE/RL Source: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goa AS I SEE IT by Tomazinho Cardoz
Dears, A compilation of articles written by Tomazinho Cardoz and published in the Gomantak Times in the recent past is set for release as a book on 05 December, 2008 just hours before the GBA meeting to discuss the implications of the Draft Regional Plan 2021 in an environment where the TCP Departments Town Planners are hesitant to go to the villages for Gram Sabha meetings as envisioned by the now defunct Task Force and announced by the Chief Town Planner. Time to think of Goa as one will see it in 2021. Your views, Ladies and Gentlemen. Mog asundi Miguel --- On Tue, 2/12/08, Tomazinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'ASRO' Orda, Candolim, Goa Phone: 9822170102 Date: 02 . 12 . 08 Press Release As I See It! to be released on 5th December. As I See It! - an English book written by Tomazinho Cardozo will be released on 5th December, 2008 at 5.00 p.m at the Black Box, Kala Akademy, Panjim. Shri. Digamber Kamat, Chief Minister of Goa, will be the Chief guest and release the Book. Dr. Nandakumar Kamat, a Scientist at the Goa University, will be the Guest of Honour. Shri. Juino De Souza will speak on the book on the occasion. As I See It! is a compilation of articles written by Tomazinho Cardozo on the Gomantak Times - an English daily - during the past two and half years. The articles deal with issues affecting Goa and Goans on various fields such as politics, education, art culture, social issues, etc. All are invited to attend the function. Tomazinho Cardozo Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID. Get [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Turning a Nelson's eye?
Dears, The Digital News service has just flashed the news that Pernem Police Station's Inspector Nelson Albuquerque has been suspended for ...hold your breath ... failure to curb corruption by his subordinates at Patradevi check post! Obvioulsly, the senior Police Officers do not believe that they have a responsibility, too. Is Dy. S.P. Gundu Naik or SP Bosco George going to be suspended for Inspector Gad's alleged indecent assault on a 25 year old married woman who had gone along with her husband to the Porvorim Police Station to lodge a complaint of assault? The lady has reportedly filed a written complaint with the IGP on 20 November, 2008, copies of which are available with the Press. Or are a little bit of physical molestation and a few lewd remarks by a Police Inspector on duty okay? Incidentally, PI Nelson Albuquerque is the elder brother of PSI Nerlon Albuquerque, who is fighting the Police establishment in the High Court after summary termination without even a show-cause notice in the infamous Scarlett Keeling alleged rape and alleged murder case where the most serious offence as of now is harbouring a minor [below 18 years] not related by blood or marriage. This is a charge that some restaurant owners in Goa could well be booked when keeping below 18-year old boys to clean the tables and floors. If one is expecting these cops to defend us against terrorists ...with a motorised canoe and a junk jeep in one of the 3 Coastal Police Stations [the other 2 stationas allegedly do not even have a means of transport and a SP of ANC doubles up as the SP-Coastal Police], one must think again. Perhaps the Taj, Marriott, Leela and other hotels should file an RTI application with the SP-HQ at Panaji to wake the Goa Police or petition the Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Suresh Mehta [son-in-law of Dr. Jack Sequeira] or pray to St. Jude, the Patron Saint of the hopeless cases ... for protection from terrorists. When the Panaji Police Station was attacked on 19 February, 2008, they literally put the girls [20 to 25 year old IRB rookie police women] to defend the Police honour .and the SP, Dy SP and Panaji Police Inspector are rueing their actions to this day ...in the GRP barracks. As long as SFX's body is in Goa we are safe is one way of looking at it. The other view was expressed by Mark Twain in few simple words: God protects the idiots. Mog asundi Miguel Get an email ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Colomb delegation submits petition at CCF's office, Panaji.
Dears, A delegation of villagers from Colomb village in Sanguem [ Quepem Police station jurisdiction] submitted a petition to the office of the Chief Conservator of Forests. The CCF [Shashi Kumar IFS], the CF [C.A. Reddy, IFS] and the powerful DCFs were out of station, so it fell to the lot of Mr. Santosh Kumar,IFS, the DCF [Planning Statistics] at the old Passport Office to receive the delegation, give it a patient hearing and direct them to submit the petition to the Inward Clerk. The CCF is likely to return to office next week. The delegation consisting of Rama Lavu Velip, Mathew Motes Antao, Dument Peter D'Souza [all veterans of arrests by Quepem Police beginning 25 March, 2007 under Dy. Collector Johnson Fernandes and thereafter under Dy. Collector Venancio Furtado and recently under Mamlatdar Matu] and others were part of the delegation of farmers affected by the illegal mining in the Titulo de Concessao of Hiralal Khodidas, allegedly without any Forest or Environmental clearance, with a case [filed by Rama, Dr. Avadhoot Prabhudesai and Goa Foundation against Fomento Group company ILPL and Goa Department of Forests and GSPCB] pending in the court of law. The villagers allege that the DCF-South is colour blind and cannot see the difference between the forest and the mine but that is compensated by a sharper sense of taste for chicken xacuti and currency. A similar petition was to be handed to the Chairman of GSPCB and the Chief Secretary of Goa. Mog asundi Miguel Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] Save Goa Front candidate gets just 158 votes, Pratap Gawas wins
Dears, Successful strategy of the Congress in roping in the support of Vishwajeet Rane and his father saved the day ...and an MLA ... for the party. Manohar Parrikar has once again become a textbook character like Gauri the dreamer.BJP government in six months after BJP candidate wins in Pale? Bah! No point crying over spilt milk now! A BJP-led Government is a distant dream. Here is Delhi, the Congress candidates are celebrating victory even before the counting has begun. Inspite of Mr. V.K.Malhotra, the BJP support base is near non-existant. The Taj raid may garner it some sympathy ...or negative ...votes. But that is not enough to win a seat for the assembly with far more than 18,000 votes. The Goa Su Raj Party showed some wisdom in not fielding a candidate in the mining area, and 'Naxalite' Seby showed sense in declining to be a candidate. Save Goa Front made a political statement for the 'bleeding for Goa' when convenient South Goa strongman and the suddenly more honest than thou bureaucrat who resigned to turn in to a thus far unsuccessful politician but gained a meagre 158 votes. these are the numbers that have been GSRP's daily bread. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa Front candidate gets just 158 votes, Pratap Gawas wins Pale assembly seat Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pale reposes trust in Congress NT NETWORK Posted on 2008-11-30 PANJIM - The Congress party retained the Pale assembly seat when its nominee, Mr Pratap Gawas, was declared elected by a margin of 1,534 votes. Mr Gawas polled 7,867 votes from among 18,391 votes polled on Wednesday. He defeated his nearest rival, Dr Pramod Sawant of the Bharatiya Janata Party who polled 6,333 votes. Dr Suresh Amonkar who had quit the BJP on being denied ticket took away as many as 3,682 votes. Of the other two contestants; Mr Rajendra Rane got 351 votes while Mr Jose Lobo of Save Goa Front managed to get just 158 votes. Addressing a press conference soon after the results were declared Mr Subhash Shirodkar, the president of Goa Pradesh Congress Committee, said that the victory of Mr Gawas was possible due to wholehearted support of the independent MLA and the Health Minister, Mr Vishwajit Rane, and the Speaker, Mr Pratapsing Rane. Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Vote and what not: Pali Konnachi?
Dears, I am away in Delhi but Digital News service keeps me abreast of the news via SMS for just Rs. 100/- a month. There has been a record 81 percent voting in the mining belt of Sanquelim [includes part of Harwalem] town and the villages of Kudne, Naveli, Amona, Pale and Velguem. It passed of peacefully although dynamite/gelatine and liquor are available in plenty, tempers are short and unemployment and frustration levels are as high as the dust pollution from mining operations and transport trucks. A key player in this area is Baba Vishwajeet Rane, officially an independent MLA but the son of the Congressman who is also independent by virtue of being the Speaker of Goa Assembly. It was the Wee Rane who saw that the twice defeated Gurudas Gawas was the third time lucky. On stage , he supported the Congress candidate and brother of the deceased MLA. Off-stage what he has done is more relevant to the results. If I was a gambler, I would place my bets on a win by former BJP President-turned-independent candidate, Dr. Suresh Amonkar. An independent candidate is useful to all for a negotiated settlement. A party candidate has the excess baggage of the disqualification under the X Schedule of the Constitution. Even small and new parties like the SGF give stalwarts like Churchill headaches and sleepless nights. So, where's the party tonight? Hold your breath till 29 November when the results will be declared. Mog asundi. Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goanet WHERE IS GOA GOING? OR IS IT ALREADY GONE?
Dear Freddy, Unfortunately I do not have the answers to everything. That is the truth. It is also the truth that I do not have any animosity towards Floriano Lobo. He was my mother's student for SSC at St. Xavier's School, Moira, during the year I was conceived and I was born soon after he answered the final exams. So we have a history of assocaition as long as my life. I also joined Goanet because of him ...and his attack on the DSE management of the same school, represented by my sister as the then Headmistress. I do not hold it against him, for his antipathy led me to discover the diabolical plan of BJP to force feed students with the VCD Goa's Freedom Struggle on 19 December, 2004. The furore ultimately led to the fall of the BJP-led Govt. on 28 January, 2005 ...soon after the first IFFI. Floriano is a wonderful activist, even if sometimes barking up the wrong tree. He deludes himself by thinking that he is also a politician. Ihave both told and written this to him. Gentleman that Floriano is, he will not deny it either. Goa Su-Raj Party is not the answer to Congress, BJP, MGP or UGDP. Any political party that can match the expense of about Rs.7 crores per constituency per election to win will be no less corrupt. Look at the RTO inspectors and Police Sub-Inspectors ...all of whom have to pay to enter and to get a suitable posting [outside GRP and IRB] ...and you will see how they recover their investment. Nerlon Albuquerque is no demon, I can assure you. He is my junior in school and contemporary of my nephews. The Assembly is not a solution. We have to look at the Village Panchayats and the Zilla Panchayats, empower them and control them through the Gram Sabha. There is no equivalent of the Gram Sabha for the Legislative Assembly or Municipality. It is like a Hero Honda advertisement, Fill it and forget it for five years. That is why we are fighting for 73rd and 74th amendment to the Constitution India to be implemented in toto ..and the reason why the Government of Goa is dragging ists feets on devolution of powers, funds and amendment/enactment of laws the power goes to the people with the 73rd and 74th amendment. Rajiv Gandhi has paid for it with his blood. Rajiv was not Jesus Christ or Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi .but his work for emancipation was no less than theirs. The present Congress is not his successor,: it is his failure. So, Freddy, we do not need a PARTY. We just need good people at every Panchayat and Zilla Panchayat .. and good people like you and me and Floriano and Rama Velip and Shamsunder Naik and Soter and Sabina and Fr.Valerian and Fr. Maverick and Annand Madgavkar and . to support, encourage and praise them when they do good. We genrally are quick to criticise and condemn and slow to support and congratulate. We report rapes and riots but not events where rape or riots are prevented. so what is the incentive for being good? Crucifiction? Floriano Lobo has my unstinted support in his campaigns against noise pollution, irresponsible garbage dumping by municipalities, responsible garbage collection in some panchayats and other issues. I will continue to expose the fallacies of GSRP ...although it has a fantastic Constitution for a college students association with all its idealism and more. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:16:32 +0400 From: Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Ref: WHERE IS GOA GOING? OR IS IT ALREADY GONE? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Miguel Irmao, You are very much right in what you say of the few jokers you mentioned from the former UGDP camp, With regards to my post, I have not mentioned anything about UGDP or rest of Fr. Antonio's post, my only interest was in his call for unity, and if you have read my post carefully I have asked only the NGO's and the Social workers to come together on one forum so that people at large don't get confused and fall prey to the jokers you mentioned and those on their band wagon. It has not been too difficult to notice your open animosity and cynicism towards a certain individual called FL and the GSRP. I am looking forward to your guidance, so would be kind enough to enlighten me and a lot others on this forum as to which PARTY according to you, we should look forward to, for our SALVATION (Goa Goans). Freddy Agnelo Fernandes -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goanet: 25 November Real Liberation Day
Dear BC, AD, FN and the rest, Sad but true, Santa Katarina has been stripped of her sainthood and of the position as the Patroness of Goa. Times are changing and so are the saints. Fr. Jose Vaz is blessed to be the patron of Goa without being a saint. SFX, whose feast we will celebrate in a few days, has his body that turned 500 years old earlier this year [the feast day is the day of mortal death, not the saits birthday!] still in Goa and revered the world over. He is reviled only by the fringe elements in the VHP in Goa. To each his own icons. But I am surprised that Bernardo chose Admiral Timmaji and Mhalu Poi Vernekar for his Team. Can he be so anti-Kapistan as to love the enemy of the enemy when even Datta Naik is canvassing for a Kabrastan in Pajifond-Margao in the Third Millenium of Anno Domini? Is this some other TIA Talk or Tiatok [hybrid of 'Tiatr' and 'Natok' proposed to the DKA by the Third Millenium baker] Mog asundi Miguel Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:26:59 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha [??? ???] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] 25 November Real Liberation Day of Goa Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 BC, Do you belong to the same team as Timoja, etc? FN 2008/11/25 Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Goans for the past 46 years have been given to believe that 19 of Dec is the 'Liberation' Day of Goa. In 1510 Afonso de Albuquerque on the behest of my cousins Timoja and Poi Liberated Goa from the Mouros. Incidentally the day celebrates the feast of St. Catarina. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goa Cops going a cropper?
Dears, The Scarlet Keeling case of 18 February, 2008, its first killing with PSI Nerlon Albuquerque getting dismissed from service. I am not going into its merits, the Panaji Bench of the Goa High Court is. The raid on the Vivenda Monserrate on 19 February, 2008, unceremoniously sent a SP, a Dy. SP and the Police Inspector of Panaji packing to the GRP barracks. The SP was of IAS cadre and the other two were of the Home Minister's Bhandari cadre ...but neither aspects helped them. Yesterday [25 Nov. 2008], the District Sessions Court, south Goa-Margao, convicted Asst. Sub-Inspector Sripati Desai and Head Constable [Hawaldar] Madhu Desai for custodial deat of Dattu Desai at Cuncolim. He called it murder. Last night a Home Guard [Auxillary Police] Honu Gawde was reportedly murdered at Bhoma-Khandola in Ponda taluka by the family of a girl he was allegedly having an alleged affair with. Kya karum mai ake Khandola?. Sun, Sunah! Ati kya khandola? San-sannah is more like it. On 24 November, 2008, I listened with shock to a 25 year old married Goan girl recounting her brush with the Goa Police at the Porvorim Police Station, not too far away from the Secretariat. The policeman's surname sounds like Guard but he is actually an Inspector. He seems to be a little confused about his designation and attempted to inspect her. He thought he was a sprinter breasting the tape ...and literally grabbed her there. Her mistake, accompanying her husband to file a complaint against a migrant boy who had assaulted her in an incident of road rage on Bakibab Borcar Road, near Xavier Centre for Historical Research, not too far away from the controversial SAI nagar Gokulashtami-Krishna temple confrontation in August this year. In a queer twist to the tale, when her husband was being sent to Asilo for alcohol test ...and she insisted on going to the hospital as she was suffering from pain as a result of the assault the Police Inspect her Guard allegedly told her to stay put in the Police station. His parting comment, I will come back here, I know how to take care of your pain! or suggestive words to that effect in Konkani. The place: Police station, Porvorim. The audience: Male cops, the migrant and his female partner [No lady police woman around] The time : 23.00 hours [11 P.M. at night!] By George! SP Bosco George [former ADC to the Governor of Goa and well aware of the protocol and law on women in police stations at night] also has his office in the Porvorim Police station building and is the supervisory officer responsible for Porvorim PI Gad's behaviour has something sticky to deal with. The young married lady has already written a narrative letter that only an abused innocent can write to the Inspector General of Police and reportedly inwarded it on 20 November, 2008. It has been forwarded by the IGP to Dy. SP Gundu at Porvorim for enquiry and report. Exemplary punishment should be forthcoming for verbal and physical abuse and simple sexual assault under IPC or Cr.P.C [on lines of Section 8 [1] of the Goa Childrens Act, 2003, though the girl involved is not a minor] and under CCS Conduct Rules as well as the Polic Manual. This is not what is expected of a Police Inspector while on duty and in the Police Station. What was done to Jenifer Monserrate on 19 February, 2008, was justified as a reaction to the charged event. What was the justification for this physical assault? I am sure the people of Porvorim will rise to the occasion and take concerted action to prevent this sickness from spreading to other cases like the SAI nagar one. The migrant is already threatening the witnesses to keep silent, it is reported. Just a week ago the Prime Minister of India thought it fit to ask heads of Police from all the states of India at a televised conference in Delhi to restore the faith of the people in the Police. Such behaviour is hardly helpful. It is hoped that Bosco George's handing of this issue is not as bad as the handling of the Archbishop's traffic arrangements last year on the feast day of St. Francis Xavier ...and the Archbishop of Goa is number 3 after the Governor and CM of Goa in official protocol. Mog asundi Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Octogenarian Ravindra Kelekar selected for 42nd Jnanpith Award 2006
Dears, The very first Jnanpith award for a KONKANI writer has gone to a life time of work by the son of Cuncolim, Shri Ravindra Kelekar [not to be confused with Shri Gurunath Kelekar of Margao]. He shares the award with Prof Satya Vrat Shashtri for Sanskrit, also for the first time. CONGRATULATIONS to Xri Ravindra Kelekar, an associate of the Benaulim-based Xri Correia Afonso, the founder of Konkani Bhasha Mandal. Mog asundi. Miguel Jnanpith award for Kelekar HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, NOV 22 Noted Konkani litterateur Ravindra Kelekar was today named for Jnanpith award — country’s highest literary award — bringing joy to the Konkani world as this is the first time the prestigious award has gone to Konkani language and also the first time to a Goan writer. According to reports reaching here, Kelekar has been named for the award jointly with a Sanskrit scholar Dr Satveet Shashtri. A Gandhian, Kelekar devoted his entire life for Konkani literature. He has penned several literary works some of the well-known ones include – Ashe Axil’le Gandhiji, Amchi Bhas Konknich, Himalayant, Kaledioscope, Tataghat, Uzvadecho Sur, Vellevoilo Ghullo, etc. He also has many translations to his credit. The prestigious award was announced today by Bharatiya Jnanpith Trust for the year 2006. Kelekar was in a clinic undergoing some treatment when the good news came from New Delhi. He reportedly said that the award is a fitting reply to those who maintained that Konkani is a dialect. In June this year, Kelekar was honoured with the prestigious Padmabhusan award. CONGRATULATIONS: Chief Minister Digambar Kamat congratulated Kelekar for getting the prestigious award saying he has brought a great honour and pride to Goans. He said Kelekar participated in Goa’s freedom movement and worked tirelessly towards promotion of Konkani language. Rajya Sabha MP and President of All India Konkani Parishad Shantaram Naik has in a statement issued Saturday evening from Jalgao Maharashtra, congratulated Kelekar for being a proud recipient of Jnanpith award. Kelekarbab is not only a literary figure but also a thinker and philosopher who never toed the line of expecting opinion in a routine manner but always expressed himself in a way which make people think about this thoughts and ideas, Naik said. Through Ravindrabab, Konkani has reached high pedestal and glory, Naik further said adding that potentiality of Konkani language has once again become transparent and crystal-clear now. BJP also congratulated Kelekar. He has made Goans very proud, spokesman and Fatorda MLA Damu Naik said. The award includes Rs 5 lakh, a citation plaque and a bronze replica of Vagdevi, the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music and arts. Prior to 1982, the awards were given for a single work by a writer. Since then, it is for a lifetime contribution to Indian literature. Kannada writers have won seven awards, followed by six for Hindi, four for Malayalam, three for Marathi and three for Urdu. Other languages include Asomi, Oriya, Kashmiri and now, Konkani. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Garbage Dump at Old Goa in the garb of Bainguinim?
Dears, It is not every day that Fr. Valerian Vaz, Director of Caritas-India and of the Council for Social Justice and Peace, intervenes in public debates on socially relevant issues. The last time Fr. Valerian made a telling difference was when one tabloid tried to defame the Executive Secretary of CSJP with the assistance of quotes leaked by an accidental social activist. At a public meeting held at the Se-Old Goa Village Panchayat hall [between the Basilica of Bom Jesus and the Augustinian Tower archaeological excavation site]at Old Goa/Velha Goa on Saturday 22 November, 2008, he said, Let the Government tell the people of Goa that the proposed garbage dump is at Old Goa and then face the reaction. So far, the Government has refrained from indicating that the Bainguinim site is actually close to the Augustinain Church and Santa Monica Convent [where the mother of Abe Faria lived when he went to become a priest] and other heritage structures of the World Heritage Site of Velha Goa or Cidade de Goa, the Rome of the East, while it is in a hurry to find a dump for the garbage from the emrging Las Vegas of the East in the river Mandovi. The whole set of the protests against the Anaerobic Digester at Patto Plaza in Nova Cidade of Panjim were designed to reactivate the land acquisition at Bainguinim which was about to lapse due to the 2-year time bar of Section 6 notification under Land Acquisition Act, 1894. A colonial Act being applied to the colonial capital to promote neo-colonization. It is not as if the Goa Government does not know that it owns and controls thousands of square metres of land under Survey Numbers 40/1, 40/2 and 40/3 in adjoining village of Chimbel [a former garbage dump area] that it wants to convert into a Film City. It has inherited it from the colonial rulers. The Government can make public the plans and technical details of different kinds of Garbage Treatment Plants under its consideration in GSUDA, DMA, DoP or DSTE. the District Planning Committees can consider which model is suitable for their towns and which for their villages. The Gram Sabhas can choose from the options available for village scale treatment. Some villagers have already seen the working of the vertical Garbage treatment unit at the Codli mine of Sesa Goa Ltd in Snaguem taluka. Perhaps, Panaji's hotels could set up such units. Some of these hotels are owned/managed by companies that dabble in iron ore mining. Other hotels, owned by companies involved in real estate and construction could divert some old cement mixers to treat biodegradable garbage with EM or Panchagavya or other activated solutions to accelerate decomposition of garbage. they can have in-house construction of masonary garbage tanks. Why terrorise the only ST MLA in his Cumbarjua constituency? Mog asundi. Miguel Storm brewing in Bainguinim HERALD CORRESPONDENT Madkaikar ups ante again OLD GOA, NOV 22 The Old Goa Garbage Action Committee on Saturday convened a meeting at Old Goa panchayat hall to protest the State Government’s decision to hand over the Bainguinim site to the Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP) for garbage disposal. The meeting was convened to discuss various steps to stop the moves of State Government and CCP to set up solid waste management project. Apart from Cumbharjua MLA Pandurang Madkaikar, St Cruz MLA Victoria Fernandes, Director of Caritas Goa Fr Valerian Vaz, Old Goa Sarpanch Janita Madkaikar, Old Goa Deputy Sarpanch Prakash Amonkar, Carambolim Sarpanch Wilson Valladares, over 500 people attended the meeting. Madkaikar stated that he never thought that once again they would have to come together to fight against the Government’s move to set up garbage disposal site at Bainguinim. “The movement had started two years ago, but once again we are forced to fight against the Government,” he stated. Madkaikar said that it was a sad thing that he and St Cruz MLA Victoria Fernandes, being from the Congress-led Government, have to talk tough against the chief minister since he has gone against the wishes of people. Madkaikar said that two years ago when the issue had come up, people from various parts of the State had raised their voices in such a way that it reached in every corner of the State. “When such a project is coming up at Bainguinim, one has to think that the project is coming at Old Goa and not Bainguinim since Bainguinim is a part of Old Goa, which is known as a holy and famous place of the world,” he stated. “The Government is misguiding the people by taking only the name of Bainguinim and not informing that Bainguinim is a part of Old Goa, which is very close to important churches, school etc”, said Madkaikar. He said that he raised the issue in the Assembly, after which a House Committee was formed where Opposition Leader Manohar Parrikar, Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, Nilkhant Halarnkar and Victoria Fernandes were members. “But now it is
[Goanet] All in a day [21 Nov. news on 22/11/08]: Proper ty rights all wrong!
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DAILY GOA NEWS CLIPS 22 Nov 2008 Goa NEWS pictures
Salcete sarpanchas, secretaries collect DRP 2021 kits:
Salcete recorded a cent per cent response from the Sarpanchas and Panchayat
secretaries of the 30 village panchayats vis-à-vis collection of kits of the
Draft Regional Plan 2021. The kits, consisting of seven items, were distributed
to the Sarpanchas this morning in the office of the Block Development Office,
followed by briefing from the Senior Town Planner, S K Byakod. And, come
Saturday, the Sarpanchas and Secretary will put up the plans and other
publicity material in the Panchayat notice board for the information of the
villagers. [NT]
{Miguel's note: The Kit contains the Draft Regional Plan 2021 document AND the
Village Plan as a Map, besides a Questionaire for People's Participation in
the planning process.. Members of the public an obtain copies of the Village
Plan/Map from the office of the Chief Town Planner, Govt. of Goa, near Shiv
Towers, Patto-Panaji, on payment and a wait of a week or more. It may be
cheaper and faster to get the Panchayat Secretary to make Jumbo xerox copies of
the Map and give. A scan of the plan could also be obtained from the digital
xerox machine and uploaded on the village yahoogroups. those who know how to
do it than can overlay the Map on the Google Earth ingaes of the village to
Ground Truth the information.Together Everyone Achieves More . The T.E.A.M.
spirit for Goa.]
Bogus Saiba!!
Builder, govt employees accused of grabbing land:
Area admeasuring 5,40,784.95 sq mts acquired by the government for purpose of
construction of office building and police quarters for police department was
allegedly grabbed by Ms Clotilda Fernandes, Mr Joe Mathias and certain
employees of directorate of Settlement and Land Records and PWD, revealed the
deputy SP, Mr Chandrakant Salgaonkar investigating the case under the
supervision of SP (crime), Mr Mangaldas Dessai. [NT]
Rs 1 cr worth property sold illegally at Anjuna; 2 held:
A property at Anjuna was allegedly illegally sold by six persons, who were not
the rightful owners to a resident of Punjab. Two of the six persons have been
arrested. According to the Anjuna police, Mr Sunil Khosla from Jalandhar,
Punjab and a director of Hindustan Hydraulics Pvt Ltd had purchased a
property in survey number 540/07 at Gaumvache Arradi at Anjuna. The property is
reportedly valued at Rs 1.4 cr and admeasures 2525 sq metres. The complaint to
police has alleged that six persons Benedict D?Souza, Paras Doctor, Luis
Fernandes, Philomena Fernandes, Mathew Luis Fernandes and Amresh Sawant had
allegedly prepared forged documents and sold Mr Khosla the property. [NT]
UCTAG opposes GU upgrading:
During a meeting held this week, the University and College Teachers
Association of Goa (UCTAG) has decided to oppose the centralisation of Goa
University (GU). The UCTAG has also expressed unhappiness with the state
government for keeping the teaching fraternity and concerned university bodies
'in the dark' while taking the decision of upgrading the Goa University to
central status. UCTAG is an association of teachers of non-government colleges
affiliated to Goa University. [TOI]
[Miguel's note: On 22 November, 2007, the current CM of Goa, then also holding
the Mintery of Education, had communicated to the Union Minister for HRD that
Goa Government had no objection to upgradation of Goa University to a Central
University as Goa was too small to have two universities ...though it was
big enough to half more than a dozen SEZs and 8% of its surface area under
mines. Whether the CM can single-handedly over-rule the Goa University Act,
1985, is not known. Now everyone is in denial mode, including the Director of
Higher Education, Shri Bhaskar Nayak, who is apparently suffering from an all
time low in his C-drive memory! ]
Candolim hit by water shortage:
Residents of Candolim and surrounding areas have been facing acute shortage of
water for the last one-week and there has been no respite despite repeated
complaints from the residents. We have not been getting water for the last
eight days and with no well nearby, how are we going to survive, a resident
from Candolim told Herald. If you go to the PWD, they give us a point blank
reply saying 'There is no release of water from Porvorim', does this solve our
water problems, he stated. [H]
[Miguel's note: Candolim gets its water supply from Assonora river, that is
bound to suffer water deficits due to renewed mining in Advalpal and Pirna
and its possible extension to Nadora and Tivim, if the proposal put for Public
Hearing on 14 November for Pirna and Nadora residents in Bardez, goes through.
All these villages have fountains and streams that feed the river. We may soon
[Goanet] Congratulations to Shri Ravindra Kelekar ...Jnyanpith Awardee
Dears, At last an author of books in KONKANI, octogenarian RAVINDRA KELEKAR, has received the prestigious award in Literature in an Indian language, the Jnyanpith award. He shares the 42nd Jnyanpith award for 2006 with an author of poems in Sanskrit, Prof. Satya Vrat Shashtri. The 41st Jnyanpith award went to Hindi poet, Shri Kunwar Narain for 2005. Since 1982, the Jnyanpith is a Life time achievement award. It has been won 7 times by Kannada writers, 6 times by Hindi writers, 4 times by Malayalam writes, thrice by Marathi writers, thrice by Urdu writers and once each byAssamese, Oriya and Kashmiri writers. this is the first time Konkani and Sanskrit writers are receiving the award. Born on 07 March, 1925, at Cuncolim, Ravindra-bab is a freedom fighter. He was awarded the Padma Bushan by the President of India earlier this year. Shri Ravindra Kelekar is reported to have stated that this was a fitting reply to those who insisted that Konkani was a DIALECT even after the Constitution of India recognised it as a LANGUAGE since 1992. The Jnyanpith award is a recognition of the literary value of the Konkani language today, he said. He received the Sharadha Puraskar of Kala Academy earlier this year. Books by Shri Ravindra Kelekar include AMCHI BHAS KONKNNICH, UZVADDACHO SUR , VELLE VOILO GHULLO , XALLENT KONKNNI KITYAK and HIMALAYANT. Shri Kelekar writes Konkani in both, Devanagri and Roman scripts, and has written in favour of continuation of the three major scripts for Konkani till one common script is accepted for all Indian languages. Shri Ravindra Kelekar has made all those who truly love Konkani, proud of their language. Mog asundi. Miguel --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Tomazinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of Consensus, Devnagori Script and Konkani. When anybody writes or makes a statement on any issue, even if it is a false statement, it appears as a truth if its falsehood is not exposed at the right time. The same thing has happened in building a base for Konkani in Devnagori script. For example some people make a categorical statement that since 1939 or even earlier, when Dalgado produced his Konkani-Portuguese Dictionary, a consensus was built that one common script and proper script for Konkani would be the Devnagori script. This statement is confusing in nature. When was the so called consensus achieved? Let us see what Shri Ravindra Kelekar, considered as a visionary of Konkani language, said just 55 years back about the numerous scripts of Konkani. In the foreword of the book Lokbhas Mala published by Orient Longmans Ltd. 1963, writing in Konkani in Roman script he says We have always said that we should learn Konkani in Devnagori script. This will help us to learn Hindi and Marathi. Nevertheless, today Konkani is written in Roman as well as Kannada script. Till the time all will begin to write Konkani in Devnagori script we should use Roman and Kanada scripts along with Devnagori script. When all the Indian languages will be written in one script which may be either Devnagori or Roman, we too will write Konkani in that script. Till such time let us develop Konkani in all the three scripts. Shri. Ravindra Kelekar is still living. Why his statement of developing Konkani in Devnagori, Roman and Kannada scripts simultaneously till all Indian languages accept one script �C Devnagori or Roman - is not even being mentioned in the deliberations and discussions. This is only because we close our eyes to facts which go against our selfish interests. The hardcore protagonists of Devnagori script are all out to eliminate Konkani in Roman script. This act goes against the vision of Shri. Ravindra Kelekar of developing Konkani in all three scripts till all Indian languages accept one script i.e. Devnagori or Roman. Shri. Kelekar too is silent on this issue. Has he changed his views after 55 years? ● Tomazinho Cardozo -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Schooling, Education, Culture and Garbage: How do we perform?
residents. It is not that we lack the know-how or access to the wherewithal to do it. It is our greed that is making things impossible. There is money to be made in any purchase or work order for garbage management. “Wealth out of waste” hjas other connotations as well. If one finds the truth hard to digest, the ‘anaerobic digester’ finds the garbage equally difficult! Do not for a moment believe that the protest “Morcha” by students of five schools in Fontainhas-Mala was spontaneous. The organization and the choreography were more meticulous than that achieved by Farah Khan for Bollywood. The IFFI, incidentally, is the target of the whole drama that is being projected as education’s “dharma”. The last valid week of the Section 6 notification under Land Acquisition Act, 1894, a British Raj law still in use and used to acquire land in Bainguinim in remembrance of the plague that led to the shifting of the capital from Cidade de Goa [Old Goa] to the Nova Goa [Panaji], was in the supporting role. The off-location ‘item dance’ is at Surla-Pale-Amona that could move the action from one hotel to another in the new plague that afflicts Goa. That the smarth are smart is an undeniable fact of life. So are the others living across the Zuari river, as the Sonsoddo episode will reveal. The winner takes it all. The poor, or middle class, students from Fontainhas-Mala who were caught on film and electronic storage devices may still get the rap for an act that they did by following their teachers as if they were the Pied Piper of Hamelin. In that story, too, it was the rats that drowned and the Pied Piper lived to tell the story. Fontainhas-Mala is a place always associated with some issue at IFFI. Next year it could receive the award for the cleanest location for a film shoot, with composting stations in every street. Miguel Braganza is the Additional Director of Organic Farming Association of India. This article appeared in the HERALD MIRROR on 23 November, 2008 Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Goa news for November 23, 2008
Dears, 'Goa Police' and 'successful investigations' are like two sides of the same coin ... never on the same side! It is high time that the Law Order section or Band-o-bust section is separated from the Detective Investigation wing. In Goa, the SP - Traffic of yesterday become the SP -Crime Branch today. From the lucrative and regular hafta collection of truck and bus drivers and the helmet-less 2-wheeler riders he is forced to earn a living by fudging evidence in rape of minors and such sporadic crimes. Any Police Inspector in Calangute will not be interested in a case of a a rupee earning Indian resident German when foreign tourist season is on and more money can be made in one evening of raids and detentions [without arrests, naturally] under NDPS to extract Euros, Pounds and/or Dollars. Read Lonely Planet's Goa Survival Guide for details. If Rajan Narayan is to be believed, the case has been milked dry by the Advocate-at-large No.1. There is no money in the Fr.Eusebio Ferrao murder case. A potential exists in the case of mining trucks in the region hit by desecrations of shrines. As in any Multi-Level Marketing [MLM] scheme, the chaps who invested all their earnings from transportation of ore into brand new trucks after April, 2008, are the real suckers. Like the guys who invested in the transcription fraud or even the much touted Amway at the end of the season, they have discovered that there is no money to be made. Extortion from the mining companies also does not work as half the mines have not re-opened after the monsoons due to a 40% fall in export demand. The opportunity to transport Panaji garbage to Bainguinim-Old Goa is also not opening up as Pandurang Madkaikar, Victoria Fernandes and the CSJP have all become smarter with the experience of 2006. Annand Madgavkar has written in the Goan Observer a detailed analysis of what Casino and gambling culture costs the state in the long run. It is worth a little attention now. Goa cops they will get copped out with the Casinos going full swing, offshore in Goa's ongested inland waterway called the River Mandovi. Casinos, cruise terminals, marinas, sex tourism,paedophilia ... Goa is going the same way as Angel City, Subic Bay, Pattaya and Phuket. Perhaps, the US Seventh Fleet that we shivered to hear of during the Bangla Desh Liberation war in December, 1971 ... will be literally screwing our happiness henceforth. Tourism Goa began as a Vietnam hang-over in the end-1960s and early 1970s. thanks to Iraq and Afganistan, it is now going the Vietnam way ... as a Rest Recreation centre. Casinos are only the tip of the ice-berg of crime and decadence. Mog asundi. Miguel On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Rape case: court issues notice to Goa government - Hindu [Nov 21, 2008] PANAJI: Reprimanding the Goa police for their inability to carry out a fair investigation in the German minor's alleged rape case, the Goa Bench of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/22/stories/2008112260681100.htmcid=1272933365ei=C6QoSdn1CIKQNfmd-AQusg=AFQjCNG52L1uXI2TIxfU-gijmayNPz2zdQ *** Goa: Acquittal in case involving 2006 stabbing of priest - Catholic Culture [Nov 21, 2008] The South Goa Sessions Court on Monday acquitted two men accused of smothering, strangling, and stabbing Father Eusebio Ferrao to death in 2006. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=1206cid=0ei=C6QoSdn1CIKQNfmd-AQusg=AFQjCNEBCnU1G3Vtzd04q1wRDlBXJTVeTg *** The darker side of sunny Goa - Daily News Analysis [7 hours ago] Sitting in sunny Goa one might feel all worries wash away. Tourists come to Goa for its famous susegad, best explained as a languid, laidback attitude that ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1208633cid=0ei=C6QoSdn1CIKQNfmd-AQusg=AFQjCNETiZXAfCTlnUuVCc6FNjOBJ6PVYA *** Iron ore export at Goa falls to 40% - Times of India [Nov 21, 2008] PANAJI: Goa, which accounts for a large chunk of the country's iron ore exports, is seeing huge mineral deposits gather dust at ports and traffic from the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/India_Business/Iron_ore_export_at_Goa_falls_to_40/articleshow/3742748.cmscid=1273124489ei=C6QoSdn1CIKQNfmd-AQusg=AFQjCNEVfijkSSWsJw_BiScYin9YWJx3ag Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] WHERE IS GOA GOING? OR IS IT ALREADY GONE?
Dears, Freddy Fernandes has the good of Goa at heart as do most people in Goa. Unfortunately, Fr. Antonio Rodrigues C.Ss.R has prescribe a medicine that is worse than the disease. He does not even seem to remember that Atanasio Babush Monserrate was elected on an UGDP ticket last June or that Matanhy Saldanha was similarly elcted on UGDP ticket in 2002 and Radharao Gracias himself was elected in 1989 on UGDP ticket. Chuchill Alemao even went to the Lok Sabha on a UGDP ticket. So what is the UGDP's track record that inspires Fr. Antonio Rodrigues C.Ss.R that he want to give it redemption? Perhaps, this is a fit case for quoting the good book to him, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34 Fr. Antonio is likely to find that there will be hell to pay for making such ridiculous statements. What Freddy wrote about the labyrinth of manipulation is the best suited description for the UGDP. I will reserve my views on the Goa Su-Raj Party performance in legislation once it is able to get even one candidate elected to a Panchayat, Municipality or Assembly ...even by fluke! Please read Frederick Noronha's article in the GT last week. It has been posted on Goanet, too. Salvation does not come easy. There is a heavy price to pay. One would think that a Redemptorist priest would know that better thanthe rest of us! Alas, the comforts of priesthood in the post-Constantine period may have led to the delusion. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:11:36 +0400 From: Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Ref: WHERE IS GOA GOING? OR IS IT ALREADY Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In response to: From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FR. ANTONIO RODRIGUES C.Ss.R. said: Providentially we got two Regional Parties now, the Su-Raj mostly in the North and the UGDP mostly in the South generate the force needed to bring about the needed change. Dear Fr. Antonio Rodrigues, Your post has certainly inspired me. I hope and pray it engulfs a lot more Goans. all the numerous NGO's working under different umbrellas do tend to be labyrinthine tangles of confusion for the general public and leave them vulnerable to the mercy of our manipulative, perverse and conniving members of the elite. It will only be in the interest of Goa and Goans that we all stand united and move cohesively towards making our dreams for Goa a reality We, as humans, think with our minds and feel with our hearts, lets us not keep our minds and hearts, apart and let them wander in different direction, but get them to work in unison for the restoration of our pride of being Goans. Our united fight is the only way to change the actual depiction, of the debauched and despicable reputation, that Goa has attained, during the last decade or so, Thanks to our very own politicos. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Motiam Pearls fromWilmix Sharon: 27 Nov. at Mapusa, 29 Nov.at Margao
Dears, Those of you who are in Goa on 27 or 29 November evening after 6.30 P.M. ...and love music or Konkani or both this is for you. Mog asundi. Miguel --- On Sat, 22/11/08, Wilson Mazarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wilson Mazarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Press Note from Wilmix Sharon Date: Saturday, 22 November, 2008, 12:57 PM Wilmix n' Sharon [Professional Stage Screen Artistes, Playwrights Producers Directors] Off: Rhythm House (Goan Music Shoppe), 12A Ashirwad, Opp.Meenaxi Hotel, Margao, Goa 403 601 Tel:2714299 Res: T1/C, Kurtarkar Nagar, Near Stadium, Fatorda, Margao, Goa 403 602. Tel:2742844 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 9822386579 Ref :W.S/ Press Date:22. 11. 2008 Press Note Sharon to perform during IFFI-2008 Sharon the Original Voice of Goa and the reigning Queen of Konkani Music, will be performing for the Entertainment Society of Goa, during the forthcoming IFFI-2008.
[Goanet] The make-up is peeling off .... to expose the pimples on the nose.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Dears, The newspaper banner headlines, lead story and photo on 13 November, 2008, in Goa were all devoted to the students of FIVE schools from Fontainhas-Mala area throwing garbage on the table and seat of the Mayor of the capital city of Panaji, a post created by the Corporation of the City of Panaji Act, 2003 enacted at the behest of the Manohar Parrikar led Government in Goa. The allegedly spontaneous but entirely despicable act was condemned by more than one newspaper, on the front page. Imagine leaving students aged 10 to 15 years with the smoking gun in front of Press cameras and media glare. Now the names are slowly tumbling out: Adv. Avinash Bhosle as Chairman of the PTA of the lead school, Mr. Dattatray Ghanekar as a teacher, Adv. Satish Sonak as a NGO leader, a so far unknown to me Mr. Anil Kerkaer as envirnmentalist, Dr. Shekar Salkar for the Indian Medical Association [though NOT the President, Secretary or Treasurer of IMA] with Dr. Rufino Monteiro in tow, Amol Navelkar of Utth Goenkara with Adv. Jatin Naik [also present but not participating as victim in the Advocate-at-large assault on 13 October, in which Prajal was the collateral damage] and now the real MacCoy, Manohar Parrikar, asking the Additional Collector, Mr. Swapnil Naik to provide Police protection to the students ...against the foul smell of the allegedly malfunctioning ANAEROBIC DIGESTOR that is giving the Congress party political indigestion on the eve of IFFI and the Pale byelection. Of course, all this got nothing to do with the dirt thrown on the Mayor's desk and the documentation there of. That is the responsibility of the management of the five schools to which the parents send their children to learn how to be better citizens ! The Goa Police better be careful. After the uncermonious transfers of a SP, Dy SP and a PI incharge of Panaji Town Police station to the GRP for their act of vainglory last February, the police are left without a hint of protection for themselves. The visuals before the news headlines on PRUDENT Media should be a chilling reminder of how the police can also be at the receiving end without even Protective clothing. When one is playing a game for high stakes, who bothers about the loose change, even if it jingles in the pocket? If the small change becomes really inconvenient it is ejected. Nerlon's brother has to turn a Nelson's eye even though he has no connection with Trafalgar Square .. or Chowk!! Aur to chara nahin!! After the hue and cry, the students begin to fall sick in the lead school and one of them happens to be a Bhosle. What a coincidence! A Bhosle also happens to be a Corporator in the CCP by another sheer coincidence. Sarvanash!!! The Police go to the schools and the doctors go to the garbage dump ... transferred epithets!! Read more about it tomorrow. It is not published by Penguins who are turning pink inspite of the stink ! Thankfully, the Anaerobic Digestor is not a religious symbol or the Indian Mujaheedin or SIMI would be blamed for its malfunction and there would be a search for some Abdul Razak to be converted and called Battlo before being detained like Venita Coelho ...without arrest. In the meanwhile, the stink will be home delivered to the children of the lesser gods . with 12% ST or VAT, 69 or otherwise. Mog asundi. Miguel -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Of Consensus,Devnagori Script and Konkani.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Dears, This article has been obtained from Tomazinho Cardoz. It states the factual position as far as the recognition of Konkani by the Central Sahitiya Akademi [Literary Academy] in 1975 and the Federal Parliament [Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha] in 1992 are concerned. The chauvinists ...Catholic priests like Fr. Mousinho de Ataide from Salvador do Mundo included . are marketing a pack of lies. It is NOT a difference of perception or opinion. Rather, it is a perversion of truth that they want to perpetuate. Satyameva Jayate says the National Emblem of India. I beleive it does tell the Truth. Mog asundi. Miguel --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Tomazinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Of Consensus,Devnagori Script and Konkani. Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 7:58 AM Of Consensus, Devnagori Script and Konkani. ● Tomazinho Cardozo When anybody writes or makes a statement on any issue, even if it is a false statement, it appears as a truth if its falsehood is not exposed at the right time. The same thing has happened in building a base for Konkani in Devnagori script. For example some people make a categorical statement that “since 1939 or even earlier when Dalgado produced his Konkani-Portuguese Dictionary a consensus was built that one common script and proper script for Konkani would be the Devnagori script.” This statement is confusing in nature. When was the so called consensus achieved? In 1939 or at the time when Mons . Dalgado published his Konkani-Portuguese dictionary? The statement has no clarity because it is not built on the foundation of truth. Let us first understand what exactly is meant by the term ‘consensus’. ‘Consensus’ is a generally accepted opinion or decision among a group of people. This meaning of consensus implies that in order to reach to a consensus there should be people of different opinions in that group. When these people of different views sit together, discuss the pros and cons of all the diverse opinions and finally come out with a solution which is acceptable to all the members of that group, then only we can say that they (members of that group) have reached a consensus. Has anything of this sort taken place in 1939 or during the time when Mons . Dalgado published his dictionary? No! In 1939 a handful of protagonists of Konkani in Devnagori script, belonging to a particular caste, organized a ‘sammelon’ (conference) and in that conference took a decision that the script of Konkani should be Devnagori. All of them were the supporters of Konkani in Devnagori script. How can such a decision be termed a consensus? Let us take the case of Mons . Dalgado. The Konkani-Portuguese Dictionary that he published was the result of his hard work and deep love for Konkani. He alone was responsible for that dictionary in which he wrote Konkani in Roman script. The foreword that he wrote to that dictionary in which he said about Devnagori script for Konkani was also his personal view. There were no other persons having different opinions with Mons . Dalgado. Hence under no circumstances it can be termed a ‘consensus’. Whatever Mons . Dalgado had written about Devnagori script and Konkani language almost 250 years back should be analyzed by taking into consideration the circumstances existing at that time. If he was living today, who knows, he might have totally changed his opinion on the script issue considering the technological development and the process of globalization in this modern world as it is happening in every part of the world. Let us see what Shri Ravindra Kelekar, considered as a visionary of Konkani language, said just 55 years back about the numerous scripts of Konkani. In the foreword of the book “Lokbhas Mala” published by Orient Longmans Ltd. 1963, writing in Konkani in Roman script he says “ We have always said that we should learn Konkani in Devnagori script. This will help us to learn Hindi and Marathi. Nevertheless, today Konkani is written in Roman as well as Kannada script. Till the time all will begin to write Konkani in Devnagori script we should use Roman and Kanada scripts along with Devnagori script. When all the Indian languages will be written in one script which may be either Devnagori or Roman, we too will write Konkani in that script. Till such time let us develop Konkani in all the three scripts.” Mons . Dalgado is no more with us yet his statement, which he made over
[Goanet] Education Minister Goa University
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Dear Dr. Barad, You have misdirected your questions, if the Times of India is to be believed. Please read the banner headlined article Will Mr. Kamat please clarify? with the self-explanatory sub-title CM's 2007 letter to Centre contradicts present stand on Goa Varsity on page 1 of Saturday, 15 November, 2008. Also read Take Goa Univ off Bill, CM to tell Centre with the sub-title State has realised mistake of agreeing to Upgradation:MP [referring to Shantaram Naik's hindsight, which is perfect . as the US Marines saying goes Hindsight is 20/20 ] in TOI of Sunday 16 November, 2008. The CM's letter of 22 November, 2007 was a well kept secret till now. Please send a letter to the CM [and the then Minister of Education to boot!], Shri Digamber Kamat who sent the letter dated 22 November, 2007 [almost one year old today]to the Ministry of Human Resources Development conveying the consent of the Government of Goa for UPGRADING Goa University Central University, reportedly with the concurrence, or prodding, of the Director of Higher Education, Mr. Bhaskar G. Nayak asking whether it had the cuncurrence of the cabinet, ruling coalition and/or the Goa Legislative Assembly as the case may be. There is a window of opportunity to know the truth: Apply for a certified copy of the proceedings of the Goa Legislative Assembly between 01 August, 2007 [the month in which the GOI Ministry of HRD wrote to Govt. of Goa] and 22 November, 2007. If I am not mistaken, there was no Assembly session during this period. The MLAs were elected in June, 2007 and after the monsoon session took a well deserved rest till the winter session, save for the toppling games in July, 2007, led by Mr. Manohar Parrikar of the GDA [not GBA] fame. The main door to the truth would be access to the agenda of the Cabinet meetings to see if the subjected was ever listed for discussion. Goa University's status would not be discussed as Any Other Business or A.O.B. in a cabinet meeting. An RTI with the Cabinet Secretary/Chief Secretary should do the trick for Rs.10/- and stationary costs not exceeding Rs.100/-, including Rs. 12/- for Speed Post to send the RTI application. One simple question and a request will do the trick: 1.Was the proposal for the change of status of Goa University to a Central University and/or its implications on the agenda of any cabinet meeting between 01 August and 22,November, 2007? 2. If YES, please furnish a copy of the relevant Agenda and extract of Agenda note pertaining to the issue. If SECRECY or CONFIDENTIALITY clauses are applied at the Cabinet Secretary level, the last resort is to file an RTI application with the Director of Higher Education ...still the self same Mr. Bhaskar G. Nayak, former Principal of Saraswat College of Commerce Management [now Sridora Caculo College of C M, Khorlim-Mapusa] and of Government Colleges in Pernem and Quepem, who could not take over the post of Principal in Dhempe College for want of a Ph.D in his Curriculum Vitae but now controls the funding of not only 28 'traditional courses'[Arts, Science, Commerce and Management] or Non-Professional colleges, each of them headed by Ph.D holding Principal without a single exception which cannot deny access to the note prepared by it for the CM in this context. For any researcher in caste dynamics of Goa, it offers a wonderful opportunity to study it in the context of the proposed UPGRADATION of the Goa University ...including the dynamics of the ephemeral CITIZENS of Goa INITIATIVE created by Floraino Lobo at the instance of one Dr. U.G. Barad, Mr. Srinivas Kamat, Dr. Jayant Budkuley, Prof. Madhav S. Kamat and others earlier this year. We have discussed the caste divide on the dais at the contributory [your contribution was Rs.50/- besides free speech for the proponents of the opposition to the upgradation, if I remember right] debate in the Institute Menezes Braganza hall, Panaji-Goa, earlier this year. Why treat Atanasio Babush Monserrate now as you treated Floriano Lobo for the debate earlier this year? Floriano had the courage to admit that he had been had ... almost as if in revenge for the way Admiral Afonso de Albuquerque had taken the pseudo Admiral Timmaji in 1510 A.D. there is a moral in the story: 1. Not all Catholics are dumb or slow witted as they are thought/taught to be; and 2. Not all Hindu GSBs are as smart as they think they are! Dr.
[Goanet] Is Kundapur a remote village in Udupi district, near Mangalore?
are two probable chief guests who will open the two-day event. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Gram Sabha and Panchayat have a role in Land Use Planning..loop in the LUP.
translation of the news report appearing in the Times of India [ Goa Edition] page 2 on Wednesday, 12 November, 2008. Very similar reports have appeared in the Navhind Times, Herald and GT prior to that starting from Herald on the day after the event. Translated by Mr. Jose Salvador Fernandes at the request of Roland Martins and Miguel Braganza .. Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address
[Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Accidental Activism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Accidental Activism Intentional pseudo-activism is getting popular! Miguel Braganza Do village self-governing bodies or panchayats have the ability to govern the village? Do they have the Constitutional mandate and powers under the Goa Panchayati Raj Act, 1994, to decide on the so-called mega projects or should they limit themselves to building PCC gutters under the Japanese-aided projects. Should a party to the dispute also seat in judgement? Can a babu like a Deputy Director of Panchayats determine the extent of his or her powers and the limit of the powers of the elected village bodies? Should a legal counsel for one builder be considered a social activist at another project? So many questions though they may seem, one man had all the answers. One person who has not won a Panchayat or Municipal election in his area of residence, and has proved unequal to the task of bring home his birthday shopping, seems to think he can control the whole of rural Goa. Then came his nemesis. The Joint Secretary in the Union Ministry of Panchayati Raj, T Raghunathan was in Goa for an interactive programme with the increasingly vocal women members of village panchayats. It was organized by the Bailancho Saad [BS], the call of the women that is being heard loud and clear, and the Panchayat Mahila Shakti Abhiyan [PMSA]. This official, who is of the rank many notches above the Babus' and the Babis in the state Directorate of Panchayats, has said that panchayat bodies are indeed empowered to decide on land use or spatial planning along with socio-economic planning of the villages. As the Salcete strongman would ask, Ani anink zai? Article 243-G of the Constitution provides that the Panchayat can plan for the economic development, social justice and implementation of the scheme. My friend, Soter D'Souza, had been shouting this from the roof-tops but a prophet is never recognized in his own town. This is specially so if he cannot afford a media publicist like the pseudo activists who build their own profile with proper investments in HR. The Constitution has not said that the Panchayat cannot plan for spatial development of the village, said the Joint Secretary who knows what Panchayati Raj is all about. The Constitution provides for statutory District Planning Committees [DPCs], mandated to prepare a draft development plan having regard to matters of common interest between the panchayats and the municipalities, including spatial planning. The Government of Goa has constituted the DPCs but not empowered them. Instead, it vested the powers of the DPCs in the Task Force, a blatantly anti-Contitutional act that seeks to disempower the people. It was bad enough that the Task Force incorporated into the Regioanl Framework Plan for Goa 2021 the Mission Bypass road from Balli in Quepem to Sanvordem, a critical railway station and barge loading jetty for the iron ore extractors to ship the cargo to down the Zuari river to the port. The mine operators in Colomb, Cavrem Cuprem, Maina, Rivona will bless the Task Force as much as the poor villagers in these areas will curse them. Just today the Goa Police detained people agitating against the flooding of the paddy fields ready for harvest in Colomb. It was the same story in Advalpal last season. Incidentally, one of the mine operators fomenting the trouble is common. It is living up to its name and 'naxalite' Seby is unhappily documenting it at www.mandgoa.com . Venancio can apply for a Police medal or perhaps for some corporate award for excellence created recently in Goa. He is doing a great job of arresting the people's agitation. If he was in Mapusa sub-division, he might have detained Venita for a longer period, for her own safety. He is a part of the Aam admi sarkar. Arresting the aam admi is his job. The Task Force approved bypass from Karaswada junction on NH-17 within the Mapusa city limits to Sanquelim on the old NH-17 enroute to Usgao and Dharbandora on NH-4A is ostensibly to connect Mopa airport to the hinterland. One is supposed to swallow the stupidity, that the facilitation of ore movement from Advalpal and Shirigao mines to Amona and Vagus jetties, is only incidental. This is an issue that needs to go to the Gram Sabha meetings in villages like Tivim, Revora, Nadora, Pirna, Advalpal, Assonora, Bordem, Karapur, etc on the route. Are they ready for the 24 x 7 movement of the trucks over-loaded
[Goanet] Goa Portugal Looking Ahead - By Maria Aurora Couto
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dears, At least Dr. Samir Kelekar has learnt to appreciate an article although he does not seem to have comprehended it fully.It is progress just the same. Portugal has been given the male gender and its colonial rule is refered as his. One may accept that of a Patria. However, from where does Dr. Samir Kelekar source his 450 year draconian colonial rule? Was it really so for 450 years when one compares with contemporary rulers in the rest of India during those 450 years? Should Goa celebrate its Liberation Day before the Government of India clarifies whether it was a 'conquest' or 'liberation' or 'annexation' of Goa or before the Government of Goa 'liberates' the vestiges of colonial rule like the Village Proprietorship of the Ranes in Sattari and the Titulo de Concessao of the iron ore mines TC holders ? Your take, Samir-bab. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:00:36 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goa Portugal Looking Ahead - By Maria Aurora Couto Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good article by Maria Aurora Couto. 1) Portugal is now a democracy. But have the wounds of the freedom-fighters healed ? For instance, has Portugal apologized for his 450 year draconian colonial rule or is it all as if nothing had happened ? These issues need to be discussed point blank before holding all kinds of celebrations. regards, Samir -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Citizens avoiding responsibility and blaming freedom fighters
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dears, Floriano has articulated a view that is shared by many. Though I do not share the concept of a separate nation for Goa, I whole heartedly share his view that most of the pensioners and fighters for all sorts of FF reservations for self and kin, do not deserve any gratitude. They are paid in cash! Where are the freedom fighters when it comes to liberating the Titulo de Concessao properties? Where are the freedom fighter when it comes to protecting Goa's land, culture and identity? At least one of them wielded a pickaxe to break name plaques of streets in Fontainhas ...while proudly speaking Portuguese. Hypocrites! Mog asundi Miguel Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:57:22 +0530 From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Citizens avoiding responsibility and blaming freedomfighters Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you get the message, Sam?? I have said it before and I will say it again and again until I die. Our miserable freedom fighters have failed us. Fine, they liberated themselves. But they became slaves all over again. And got us into a worse mess than before. If they had to leave the liberating to us, we would have stayed independent, autonomous, enjoying the fruits from both ends. Perhaps you are blind to see that they are looting us naked and destroying us with their communal shit. floriano - Original Message - From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:56 PM Are you guys citizens so impotent so as to only blame others? Samir -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Goa rape case: Victim's mother withdraws charges
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dears, As far as I know the Indian legal system,a complainant/plaintiff can withdraw a CIVIL suit from the Court. In the case of a CRIMINAL suit filed under Cr.P.C., IPC or GCA, the complainant's role is limited to filing the complaint or F.I.R. The case is a STATE v/s the accused and only the Police or Directorate of Prosecution can withdraw the case. The case of the German minor is currently in three courts 1.JMFC, Mapusa 2.Children's Court and 3.Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court. Medical examination has reportedly revealed that the victim is not a virgin and hence there is a prima facie indication of statutory rape as even her mother cannot give consent till she is 16 years old ...the girl is aged 14 years. It will be interesting to see what the State of Goa will do in this case: withdraw or go the whole hog. Flip-flops are nothing new to Adv. Aires Rodrigues. One only has to see what his [back] track record in the infamous Fr. Newton molestation case of Ribandar or his record in politically motivated activism since the turn of the millenium. Poor Prajal Sakhardande's credibility is being eroded in the process. Collateral damage, one may say as if the injuries suffered on 13 October, 2008 were not bad enough for the history lecturer. In class, one is taught a lesson and then put to the test. In life, one is put to the test and learns his lessons therefrom. Samir has learnt nothing from his Goanet posting 100 girls, or on Rajan Parrikar, or Semana Portuguesa or any other episode, including life in the ITCG Board and out of it! There is no reason to believe that the situation will change soon. Rape, Mother German, Portuguese and such other words that denote sex or gender or skin tone act like flame baits for his puerile diatribes. C'est la vie! Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:40:44 +0400 From: Querobino Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa rape case: Victim's mother withdraws charges Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a development !!! Any comments from the master Samir or any excuses ??? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The mother of the German minor, who was allegedly raped by Goa Education Minister Atanasio Monserratte's son Rohit, has withdrawn the charges against him. The German woman has written a letter to police, saying 'the whole system has failed her'. He was booked by Goa police on October 14 for allegedly raping the German girl and had gone missing after that. http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080071951 -- -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Naguesh Karmali
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dr. Samir Kelekar, A total imprisonment of four years, eight months and two days is long ... but less than half of the term one is sentenced under NDPS today for possessing 5g of heroin in India. Did anyone dispute Nagesh Karmali's credentials as a FF or was his continuation of disruptive activities in liberated Goa [as the Fontainhas vandalism was in 2004] that was being questioned? Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:06:50 + (Hora padrão de GMT) From: Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Naguesh Karmali Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naguesh Karmali, b. at Kakoda, on 5th Feb 1933 ; arrested on 16th Sept. 1954; was kept in police custoy for about eight months, then tried and sentenced to eight years of rigorous imprisonment ; was kept at Reis Magos jail and then shifted to Aguada till he was released on 17th May 1959 under General Amnesty;suffered total imprisonment of four years, eight months and two days; Source: *Who's Who of Freedom Fighters*, Goa Gazetteer Dept, 1986, Vol. 1, p 169 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:23:59 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Naguesh Karmali and Portuguese empregad Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Naguesh Karmali was one of the freedom fighters who was given a huge imprisonment by the Portuguese. Those Goanetters who call him fake dont know history. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Hit over the boundary
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hit over the boundary It is the beginning of a four! Miguel Braganza With this week's column, the 'Konkan Curry' is entering the fourth year, almost without a break. 'Almost' because one article did not make the printed pages due to some inexplicable reason then, which is crystal clear now. The article was critical of the double standards practiced by the then editor of the Devanagri lobby's only newspaper in Konkani, with whom the then Editor of GT was going to work in the foreseeable future. Nothing is free from bias. I make no such claim for this column, either. While the Congress party is yet to find its candidate from among the many aspirants to the vacancy created by the sad demise of the young teacher-turned-politician, Gurudas Prabhakar Gauns, the BJP has found a young doctor to replace an older one who has served it as a Minister of Health before. The current Minister for Health is a major player in the area, and he is independent to do as he pleases. He has no party to represent. Gurudas hailed from a farming community in the mining belt of Kudne-Naveli-Amona with whom I deal quite routinely to study the impact of mining on livelihoods of the farmers. As the world goes into recession and there is a slump in the market for low grade iron ore after the Beijing Olympics, there is going to be a melt down in this mining belt where everyone and his uncle has bought trucks when iron ore ruled at US $100 a tonne and a truck carried material worth Rs.72,000/- in a single over-laden trip of 18 tonnes. The choice of a candidate will be critical. People are unwilling to s wallow electoral promises. They do not even have a placebo effect any longer. The story of the German girl, who has been identified by the local and national media to need repetition, and her alleged statutory rape as per the current law is intriguing. In the previous generation in Goa, where even my grandmother was married at age 13 years, the German girl would have been past marriageable age. My grandmother's brother was a well known lawyer in the Nova Cidade of Panjim and there was nothing illegal or illicit about the marriage in a colonial era that worked by the rule. With the present day level of nutrition one is physically much more precocious. Hence, the law was enacted to restrict fecundity. There are casualties when the hormones rev out of control. The Ministers' kin may drive fast cars but even they need to exercise caution on curves. Curves can be dangerous, some are learning to their eternal regret. There is an old Hindi saying that goes, Aurat hai woh ladoo, jo khaye, woh pachtaye; jo nahin khaye, woh bhi pachtaye! It is not my intention to 'commodify' women, but the saying encapsulates the male perspective about relationships with women. Sigmund Freud emphasizes that the driving force behind man is a woman; even if she turns out to be a woe to man! A friend of mine insists that the Sanjiv Kumar starrer should have been named Pati, Patni and Woe instead of Pati, Patni aur Woh. So whether, the 'extra' is extra-marital or pre-marital, woe to him who indulges in it! The corollary to the saying, Behind every successful man there is a woman. is Behind every unsuccessful man there are two women. Whether one has an 'extra' or is a Mama's Boy who is unhappily married, two women at the same time in one life can be quite overpowering for a man, whether single or married. While some of the Ministers, and former Ministers now in the opposition ranks, grapple the issue of girls who have turned into women, the party high commands are dealing with issues of men. No they are not gay; neither are they happy. Is it okay to give the dog a bad name and shoot it? With one Pandurang, one party seems to have shot itself in its foot. Instead of ridding itself of one problem, it now has two problems to deal with. Jesus the Nazarene may have picked up fishermen and made them 'fishers of men'. The local Government has got itself entangled in the net. To make matters worse, the casinos have got entangled in the trawler nets at Malim. The Minister for Fisheries is trying to sort out the issue created by the dropping of the Finance Minister. That is the naked truth that the naked one in Emperor's clothes needs to deal with. All the abbreviations like SC,ST, OBC, etc do not actually reduce the problem. If that is a fishy issue, try this dusty
[Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dears, Dr. Samir Kelekar, Ph. D. seems to have part of his memory disc corrupted. He can remember the so-called RAPE of Goa by the Portuguese but seems to forget who were the two PIMPS who sold Goa to Afonso the Albuquerque in 1510 A. D.. Their decendents and kinsmen continue to blatantly rape the land using the colonial Titulo de Concessao in liberated Goa as against conquered Daman and Diu. So who is sucking up to Portugal, to use Samir's own words? A distinction needs to be made between the Portuguese colonialists and the Portuguese people, language and culture. The Portuguese people have suffered more under the Salazarists than Goans have. General Vasalo Silva had to suffer imprisonment from 1962 to 1975 for not destroying Goa on 18 December, 1961 as he was ordered to. Other Portuguese who opposed the Salazarists disappeared without trace. Portuguese is spoken with pride by those Goans who know the language. Samir does not have to go far to find that out. All he needs to do is to ask his father. Assim sao coisas do Mundo, quem nao sabe nadar bato os culhoes o fundo Papa Kelekar will tell you what it means. It is a profound and sobering thought. Just consider these two points: 1. Goa was liberated by the INDIAN ARMY on 18 and 19 December, 1961, NOT by the Freedom Fighters as if they were some ANC or MPLA. 2. if not for the Portuguese, the so-called Freedom Fighters would not have received the substantial pensions [totally Rs.14,600/- per month at last reports]. those who fought against the Sultans, Rajas, Nawabs and the like between 15 August 1947 and 19 December, 1961, do not receive any pension! So as Siddhanath Ulhas Buyao once said in public forum in the presence of pensioned Freedom Fighters . the appropriate term is Pension Fighters. If not, at least the affluent among them should stop being a burden on the State and Nation and stop their pensions ...and stop fighting for reservations in educational institutions and jobs for their children 46 years after freedom from colonial rule ...thanks to military action. Samir-bab, please learn the history of Goa before you debate on the subject. It does not befit a Ph. D holder to make allegations like the 100 girls provided to company executives in a 5-star hotel. Sex is interesting, but there is a limit to whicvh one can flog an alleged rape of one's mother land or sister. Even Aires is learning that these days, according to Tomcat today. Mog asundi Miguel PS Did you sort out that issue that you had with Rajan Parrikar on a similar subject that later went offline for a long time? --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 5:27 PM Portuguese slave oops citizen Paulo Colaco Dias writes some good things about democracy, but then he calls freedom fighters who opposed this so called celebration fake. Would anyone in their sane minds celebrate their mother's rape ? That is what happened to us 450 years back, but perverse mentalities have sprung up celebrating such rape nowadays. Naguesh Karmali gave most of his young life for Goa's freedom. Digambar Kamat and his corrupt cronies are now reaping the fruit. And activitist are hiding away when elections come near. And the Jose Colacos are dancing their kathakalis sucking up to Portugal. Does Portugal count in today's world first of all ? regards, Samir -- Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 01:19:01 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] The opposition from the freedom fighters Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cip writes: Samir, why Mr Timblo, Engineer Anil Counto and many others are celebrating their mother's rape now in Goa? Perhaps, these above mentioned people have better state of mind' as well as know our history better than you? Is it not? Are Mr Timblo, Engineer Anil Counto and many others are insane? Samir responds: I hope you know that Timblo is a mine owner too; and you perhaps thinks he has a better state of mind. I mean come on Cip grow up. Use those grey cells! Cip writes: Dr Caissore is a Goan and now taking active part in Portuguese politics in Portugal and couple of years back, Goa Government has felicitated him in Goa. What have you got to say to Dr Caissore? ... insane? ... slave?
