Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?

2008-01-25 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
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 When the BJP was in power, Goanet was rife with anti-BJP
 posts day in and day out, night in and night out.  I wasn't
 on Goanet then but a coup d'oeil of the archives bears me out.
 Mr Noronha would saturate the Usenet group soc.culture.indian.goa
 with his anti-BJP diatribes masquerading as news.

I have made many hundreds (or thousands) of posts to cyberspace since
1994. It's amazing that these are the only ones you choose to talk
about. It says more about your vision than mine. Or maybe, attack is
the best form of defence. Specially when your own narrow agenda gets
questioned. FN
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Re: [Goanet] Another Illegal Construction

2008-01-24 Thread Pamela D'Mello
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Mr Collaco,

It seems a whole lot of us  are being taken for fools here. One distinctly
remembers the sales pitch taken by the then BJP CM whilst he was putting in
place grandiose plans for IFFI --- it would have a multiplier effect on the
economy and boost multi sectoral growth --- we were told then. If your
pursuing the Cannes model for IFFI, then concrete by the beach is the
necessary corollary. There;s no doubt that IFFI pushed Goa's land market
skywards, but those beating up the brand Goa hype knew that well  then
and now.

Politicians will be politicians --- some more diabolical and crafty than
others. Quite clearly the strategy here  is to whip up we-are-under-siege
sentiments among a section of the population; and direct it against the
Congress, when one is out of power.

Development is alright only as long as it's on your watch --- and you're the
collector on duty --- that's every politician's motto in Goa, at least.

Let's not forget the facts --- Goa has a BJP-dominated government from 1999
to early 2005, nearly five years of the past decade ,when concretisation
and inmigration --- those four letter words -- accelerated in Goa.

But politicians rely on other facts --- that public memory is like a sieve.
And we will only react to snapshots across the bay!

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 My remarks: Goa is being destroyed every single day. The shameless (and
now
 illegtimate) government of Digambar Kamat has no controls, no supervision,
no
 enforcement, no monitoring, nothing! It is a free for all right now. Just
yesterday
 the Utt Goenkara folks interceded in the illegal hill cutting going on in
Curca
 by one Bhagatsingh Sonaye attached to Goa Medical College (reported in
today's
 newspapers such as Tarun Bharat, Herald etc). That violations are
happening all
 over is known to those in the highest rungs of power yet they look
askance, or
 even collude to help the rich and the powerful. I would like to know why,
given
 all this, the GBA Convener Dr Oscar Rebello has issued a paean to Digambar

 Kamat. The same Digambar Kamat and his Congress party who are complicit
 in Goa's ongoing destruction. Now who is going to deal with this Batim
case? Regards,


Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?

2008-01-24 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
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To Goanet -

Pamela D'Mello wrote:
Politicians will be politicians --- some more diabolical and crafty than
others. Quite clearly the strategy here  is to whip up we-are-under-siege
sentiments among a section of the population; 

Ms D'Mello,

A little rearrangement of the fenestration in the portals of your 
mind may help.

My photographs of the violence inflicted on Goa's land, the
flood of migrants coursing through Goa's border - you say
these are being used to whip up the we-are-under-siege
sentiments.  But the Goans I meet everyday in different
parts of Goa - almost all of whom have not even heard 
of Goanet much less seen my photographs or posts - have
identical stories to tell of the land slipping out of Goan
hands, of hill cutting in their villages, of widespread land
illegalities, of ghatis encroaching, squatting, spitting, 
defecating in public spaces and so on.  One possibility is 
that all the rest of us are hallucinating.  I submit that this 
is statistically improbable. 

and direct it against the Congress, when one is out of power.

Partially true.  Partial, because those belonging to the opposition 
parties currently out of power will no doubt have an axe to grind.  
But there is a vast group of ordinary Goans who harbour political 
loyalties, which is their right as citizens in a pluralistic political 
system, but nevertheless to whom the well-being of Goa comes 
before politics.  It is conceivable that a certain percentage of the
members of this group hold the Congress responsible for the 
sordid things done to Goa in the past couple of years since it 
is the Congress that currently has in its possession the reins
of power.  Perhaps they even feel any and every dispensation in 
power must be held to account.  To impute motives to these folks, 
to allege that they have cobbled a skein of some grand conspiracy 
would be foolish.  For we know that it is possible for people who
hew to opposing political views to converge on mutually 
important issues.  Perhaps holding two thoughts simultaneously
in the mind is a novel idea to you?  Don't worry, with practice
you'll get used to it.


Development is alright only as long as it's on your watch --- and you're the
collector on duty --- that's every politician's motto in Goa, at least.

Alright.  I shall resist the temptation of a quibble with the in Goa bit.


Let's not forget the facts --- Goa has a BJP-dominated government from 1999
to early 2005, nearly five years of the past decade ,when concretisation
and inmigration --- those four letter words -- accelerated in Goa.

But politicians rely on other facts --- that public memory is like a sieve.
And we will only react to snapshots across the bay!

While we are at this business of not forgetting the facts, let us 
not forget to not forget a few other facts :-).

When the BJP was in power, Goanet was rife with anti-BJP
posts day in and day out, night in and night out.  I wasn't
on Goanet then but a coup d'oeil of the archives bears me out.
Mr Noronha would saturate the Usenet group soc.culture.indian.goa
with his anti-BJP diatribes masquerading as news.  I recall
him seeing a communal snake hiding under every rock and behind 
every bush, insider every drawer and over every shelf.  His
complete and utter immersion in saffron would have made
Bal Thackeray green with envy (to mix the colour metaphor).  
No stick was small enough to beat the BJP and Manohar Parrikar 
with in those halcyon days of Goanet.  In my hurried survey 
of the archives, I must have missed your older postings chastising 
Goanet posters of having this we-are-under-siege mindset, 
and you no doubt reminded them about every politician's motto 
in Goa, at least.  And fair-minded that you are, you surely 
admonished them with, mutatis mutandis, ...and direct it 
against the BJP, when one is out of power.

Warm regards,


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Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?

2008-01-21 Thread Bosco D'Mello

On Sun Jan 20 20:38:02 PST 2008, Rajan P. Parrikar  wrote:


I asked the Batim villagers below and they said the house is being
constructed by someone from Delhi.. Then he revealed that this
house is being built by one Kiran Dhingra.


RESPONSE:   Kiran?? Did you say Kiran Dhingra?? Could it be this Kiran 
Dhingra??



Ms Kiran Dhingra (dhingrak at ias.nic.in) celebrated her birthday last 
week - half way there..


http://www.indianbuzz.com/index.php?section=home


1) IAS Officer - Class of 1975
- Director General of Shipping, Govt. of India
- Chief Secretary, Govt of Goa
- Secretary of Transportation, Govt of Delhi (circa 1996)
- Development Commisioner, Andaman  Nicobar Islands


2) Author
- The Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Twentieth Century: A Gazetteer

Kiran Dhingra is with the Indian Administrative Service and presently Chief 
Secretary of Goa (circa 2006). She was posted in the Andaman and Nicobar 
Islands for a period of about three years (1992-5) as Development 
Commissioner. She spent another year-and-a-half touring the islands 
extensively when she was commissioned by the Andaman and Nicobar Islands 
Administration to compile this gazetteer.



3) Hired!! (Feb 22, 2005)

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-February/025118.html


4) Fired!! (Jan 18, 2006)

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-January/038250.html
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-February/039020.html


References:
http://www.amazon.ca/Andaman-Nicobar-Islands-Twentieth-Century/dp/0195670531/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1200891489sr=1-1
http://www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-05-48.pdf
http://www.executiveship.com/newslett-apr07PDF.pdf (Photo)


Thank you GoogleManiacs!!! 



Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?

2008-01-21 Thread Jim Fernandes
Darn good research Bosco.

This should give Rajan ample ammo to load up his guns.

Jim F.
New York.

-- Original message --
From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sun Jan 20 20:38:02 PST 2008, Rajan P. Parrikar  wrote:
 
  I asked the Batim villagers below and they said the house is being
  constructed by someone from Delhi.. Then he revealed that this
  house is being built by one Kiran Dhingra.
 
 RESPONSE:   Kiran?? Did you say Kiran Dhingra?? Could it be this Kiran 
 Dhingra??
 
 
 Ms Kiran Dhingra (dhingrak at ias.nic.in) celebrated her birthday last 
 week - half way there..
 
 http://www.indianbuzz.com/index.php?section=home
 
 
 1) IAS Officer - Class of 1975
 - Director General of Shipping, Govt. of India
 - Chief Secretary, Govt of Goa
 - Secretary of Transportation, Govt of Delhi (circa 1996)
 - Development Commisioner, Andaman  Nicobar Islands
 
 
 2) Author
 - The Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Twentieth Century: A Gazetteer
 
 Kiran Dhingra is with the Indian Administrative Service and presently Chief 
 Secretary of Goa (circa 2006). She was posted in the Andaman and Nicobar 
 Islands for a period of about three years (1992-5) as Development 
 Commissioner. She spent another year-and-a-half touring the islands 
 extensively when she was commissioned by the Andaman and Nicobar Islands 
 Administration to compile this gazetteer.
 
 
 3) Hired!! (Feb 22, 2005)
 
 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-February/025118.html
 
 
 4) Fired!! (Jan 18, 2006)
 
 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-January/038250.html
 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-February/039020.html
 
 
 References:
 http://www.amazon.ca/Andaman-Nicobar-Islands-Twentieth-Century/dp/0195670531/ref
 =sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1200891489sr=1-1
 http://www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-05-48.pdf
 http://www.executiveship.com/newslett-apr07PDF.pdf (Photo)
 
 
 Thank you GoogleManiacs!!!