Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- When the BJP was in power, Goanet was rife with anti-BJP posts day in and day out, night in and night out. I wasn't on Goanet then but a coup d'oeil of the archives bears me out. Mr Noronha would saturate the Usenet group soc.culture.indian.goa with his anti-BJP diatribes masquerading as news. I have made many hundreds (or thousands) of posts to cyberspace since 1994. It's amazing that these are the only ones you choose to talk about. It says more about your vision than mine. Or maybe, attack is the best form of defence. Specially when your own narrow agenda gets questioned. FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 The Goa books blog: http://goabooks.wordpress.com Goa1556 (alt.publishing.goa): http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] Another Illegal Construction
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- Mr Collaco, It seems a whole lot of us are being taken for fools here. One distinctly remembers the sales pitch taken by the then BJP CM whilst he was putting in place grandiose plans for IFFI --- it would have a multiplier effect on the economy and boost multi sectoral growth --- we were told then. If your pursuing the Cannes model for IFFI, then concrete by the beach is the necessary corollary. There;s no doubt that IFFI pushed Goa's land market skywards, but those beating up the brand Goa hype knew that well then and now. Politicians will be politicians --- some more diabolical and crafty than others. Quite clearly the strategy here is to whip up we-are-under-siege sentiments among a section of the population; and direct it against the Congress, when one is out of power. Development is alright only as long as it's on your watch --- and you're the collector on duty --- that's every politician's motto in Goa, at least. Let's not forget the facts --- Goa has a BJP-dominated government from 1999 to early 2005, nearly five years of the past decade ,when concretisation and inmigration --- those four letter words -- accelerated in Goa. But politicians rely on other facts --- that public memory is like a sieve. And we will only react to snapshots across the bay! --- My remarks: Goa is being destroyed every single day. The shameless (and now illegtimate) government of Digambar Kamat has no controls, no supervision, no enforcement, no monitoring, nothing! It is a free for all right now. Just yesterday the Utt Goenkara folks interceded in the illegal hill cutting going on in Curca by one Bhagatsingh Sonaye attached to Goa Medical College (reported in today's newspapers such as Tarun Bharat, Herald etc). That violations are happening all over is known to those in the highest rungs of power yet they look askance, or even collude to help the rich and the powerful. I would like to know why, given all this, the GBA Convener Dr Oscar Rebello has issued a paean to Digambar Kamat. The same Digambar Kamat and his Congress party who are complicit in Goa's ongoing destruction. Now who is going to deal with this Batim case? Regards,
Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Symposium on Pre-Primary Primary School Education Primary School Students Chess Tournament More information at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/068222.html --- To Goanet - Pamela D'Mello wrote: Politicians will be politicians --- some more diabolical and crafty than others. Quite clearly the strategy here is to whip up we-are-under-siege sentiments among a section of the population; Ms D'Mello, A little rearrangement of the fenestration in the portals of your mind may help. My photographs of the violence inflicted on Goa's land, the flood of migrants coursing through Goa's border - you say these are being used to whip up the we-are-under-siege sentiments. But the Goans I meet everyday in different parts of Goa - almost all of whom have not even heard of Goanet much less seen my photographs or posts - have identical stories to tell of the land slipping out of Goan hands, of hill cutting in their villages, of widespread land illegalities, of ghatis encroaching, squatting, spitting, defecating in public spaces and so on. One possibility is that all the rest of us are hallucinating. I submit that this is statistically improbable. and direct it against the Congress, when one is out of power. Partially true. Partial, because those belonging to the opposition parties currently out of power will no doubt have an axe to grind. But there is a vast group of ordinary Goans who harbour political loyalties, which is their right as citizens in a pluralistic political system, but nevertheless to whom the well-being of Goa comes before politics. It is conceivable that a certain percentage of the members of this group hold the Congress responsible for the sordid things done to Goa in the past couple of years since it is the Congress that currently has in its possession the reins of power. Perhaps they even feel any and every dispensation in power must be held to account. To impute motives to these folks, to allege that they have cobbled a skein of some grand conspiracy would be foolish. For we know that it is possible for people who hew to opposing political views to converge on mutually important issues. Perhaps holding two thoughts simultaneously in the mind is a novel idea to you? Don't worry, with practice you'll get used to it. Development is alright only as long as it's on your watch --- and you're the collector on duty --- that's every politician's motto in Goa, at least. Alright. I shall resist the temptation of a quibble with the in Goa bit. Let's not forget the facts --- Goa has a BJP-dominated government from 1999 to early 2005, nearly five years of the past decade ,when concretisation and inmigration --- those four letter words -- accelerated in Goa. But politicians rely on other facts --- that public memory is like a sieve. And we will only react to snapshots across the bay! While we are at this business of not forgetting the facts, let us not forget to not forget a few other facts :-). When the BJP was in power, Goanet was rife with anti-BJP posts day in and day out, night in and night out. I wasn't on Goanet then but a coup d'oeil of the archives bears me out. Mr Noronha would saturate the Usenet group soc.culture.indian.goa with his anti-BJP diatribes masquerading as news. I recall him seeing a communal snake hiding under every rock and behind every bush, insider every drawer and over every shelf. His complete and utter immersion in saffron would have made Bal Thackeray green with envy (to mix the colour metaphor). No stick was small enough to beat the BJP and Manohar Parrikar with in those halcyon days of Goanet. In my hurried survey of the archives, I must have missed your older postings chastising Goanet posters of having this we-are-under-siege mindset, and you no doubt reminded them about every politician's motto in Goa, at least. And fair-minded that you are, you surely admonished them with, mutatis mutandis, ...and direct it against the BJP, when one is out of power. Warm regards, r Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?
On Sun Jan 20 20:38:02 PST 2008, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: I asked the Batim villagers below and they said the house is being constructed by someone from Delhi.. Then he revealed that this house is being built by one Kiran Dhingra. RESPONSE: Kiran?? Did you say Kiran Dhingra?? Could it be this Kiran Dhingra?? Ms Kiran Dhingra (dhingrak at ias.nic.in) celebrated her birthday last week - half way there.. http://www.indianbuzz.com/index.php?section=home 1) IAS Officer - Class of 1975 - Director General of Shipping, Govt. of India - Chief Secretary, Govt of Goa - Secretary of Transportation, Govt of Delhi (circa 1996) - Development Commisioner, Andaman Nicobar Islands 2) Author - The Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Twentieth Century: A Gazetteer Kiran Dhingra is with the Indian Administrative Service and presently Chief Secretary of Goa (circa 2006). She was posted in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands for a period of about three years (1992-5) as Development Commissioner. She spent another year-and-a-half touring the islands extensively when she was commissioned by the Andaman and Nicobar Islands Administration to compile this gazetteer. 3) Hired!! (Feb 22, 2005) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-February/025118.html 4) Fired!! (Jan 18, 2006) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-January/038250.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-February/039020.html References: http://www.amazon.ca/Andaman-Nicobar-Islands-Twentieth-Century/dp/0195670531/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1200891489sr=1-1 http://www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-05-48.pdf http://www.executiveship.com/newslett-apr07PDF.pdf (Photo) Thank you GoogleManiacs!!!
Re: [Goanet] Another illegal construction?
Darn good research Bosco. This should give Rajan ample ammo to load up his guns. Jim F. New York. -- Original message -- From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun Jan 20 20:38:02 PST 2008, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: I asked the Batim villagers below and they said the house is being constructed by someone from Delhi.. Then he revealed that this house is being built by one Kiran Dhingra. RESPONSE: Kiran?? Did you say Kiran Dhingra?? Could it be this Kiran Dhingra?? Ms Kiran Dhingra (dhingrak at ias.nic.in) celebrated her birthday last week - half way there.. http://www.indianbuzz.com/index.php?section=home 1) IAS Officer - Class of 1975 - Director General of Shipping, Govt. of India - Chief Secretary, Govt of Goa - Secretary of Transportation, Govt of Delhi (circa 1996) - Development Commisioner, Andaman Nicobar Islands 2) Author - The Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Twentieth Century: A Gazetteer Kiran Dhingra is with the Indian Administrative Service and presently Chief Secretary of Goa (circa 2006). She was posted in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands for a period of about three years (1992-5) as Development Commissioner. She spent another year-and-a-half touring the islands extensively when she was commissioned by the Andaman and Nicobar Islands Administration to compile this gazetteer. 3) Hired!! (Feb 22, 2005) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-February/025118.html 4) Fired!! (Jan 18, 2006) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-January/038250.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-February/039020.html References: http://www.amazon.ca/Andaman-Nicobar-Islands-Twentieth-Century/dp/0195670531/ref =sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1200891489sr=1-1 http://www.rff.org/Documents/RFF-DP-05-48.pdf http://www.executiveship.com/newslett-apr07PDF.pdf (Photo) Thank you GoogleManiacs!!!