Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim
I have always maintained that the Agenda by the vested interests in Goa to communalise the Goan society started with Goa's so called 'liberation' in 1961. Upto that point the Goan communities were not free to show their communal biasies openly. Of course, I am not talking of the isolated communal attrocities that have and/or may have taken place in the 450 year historical period which is plain history. The Savordem-Curchorem riots opened up the communal wounds (thanks to the Hindutva Agenda of the BJP). This was expressed at a meeting at the T B Cunha hall, post S-C riots, chaired by Mrs. Aurora Couto. In my vociferous way, I had brought to the notice of the audience that that the reasons for the S-C riots was the long-standing communal agenda followed by the Goan society starting with the formation of the Maharashtra Gomantak Party prompting me to make an open statement thus:- 1. MGP has always been, IS and will always remain COMMUNAL, and that it was waiting for a big brother to take the lead (BJP) to take this agenda to the head. That the BJP has gobbled the MGP confirms the fact that MGP is communal. Also, I had openly asked anyone in the audience to challenge me on this very sensitive statement. Rightly, there was none. 2. A very prominent member of the Goan society and a prominent Hindu did take the platform after me, prompting me to say 'here comes the challenge' But as it turned out, his worthy statement must have sent shock-waves through the Hindu members of the audience, for he not only did agree to the statement that I had made, but also went on to elaborate in these words:- BANDODKAR, he said IMPORTED HINDU BHATS FROM MAHARASHTRA TO POISON THE MINDS OF THE GOAN HINDUS The prominent person is the pillar of the Goan Hindu society and none other than Mr. Amrut Kansar (ex MGP - Ex MP) floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet mails [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim Apologies in advance for a long mail, but Dr. Virgnicar has raised some very vital issues, and I have tried my best to address them. From: anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim You lived in UK during the rivers of blood days . I live here in a different time when the bigger problem is appeasement of the non-natives. Areas like Bradford have become no go areas for white people.The economic cake is being divided into smaller and smaller pieces. And the extreme right wing British National Party is finding increasing takers.
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim
--- Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to what he does through his inflammatory talk against migrants and poor people and his repeated statements branding entire communities as 'savages' 'filthy', etc. and characterising the whole of India beyond Goa as a 'stinking toilet' -- let us agree to disagree and leave it at that. This talk is merely some cheap entertainment for a small constituency of separatists and segregationists. It is unlikely that Anand agrees with Rajan on this. I doubt if Rajan himself would ever have the courage to use it as a serious argument in support of any PIL in an Indian court. He would be laughed out of the court before anybody got a chance to utter the word prejudice. Cheers, Santosh
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From: Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] MP and Panjim Here in Goa too we hear about shacks which disdain Indian clientele, of certain localities having become foreign (esp Russian) colonies, of communities not mixing like before etc etc. It is not a good sign at all. Yes, you are absolutely right, this problem is pretty common here since at least the 80s, when the shack owners decided that they will pursue the foreign tourist dollar to the exclusion of all else. At one level, it reduced a bit after domestic tourism became a big money-spinner, but has increased elsewhere, e.g., in Morjim, as these areas have virtually been colonised by Russians, etc. We must fight this, but is this what Anand Virgincar meant? See below: Parts of Goa are becoming no go areas for Goan Hindu's, Goan Catholics and Goan Muslims. This seems to imply something else, otherwise why would he specifically say Goan Hindu's, Goan Catholics and Goan Muslims? The discrimination you refer to above is based on skin colour and would be experienced uniformly by all South Asians -- Indians, Pakistanis, Nepalis, Bangladeshis, and Sri Lankans -- as well as other groups. And it wouldn't be restricted to the communities above but would also cover Jains, Buddhists, animists, and atheists belonging to these groups. -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)
Mr V Gadgil said : All that Manohar Parrikar DID for Panjim whenhe was in power was to indulge in his usual megalomania andbluster. He wanted to convert Goa into Singapore (which,incidentally, is a totalitarian police state). He dropped aturd called INOX on Panjim -- and did it at five times thelegitimate cost (where the rest of the money was channelled isanybody's guess). He wished IFFI on Panjim in perpetuity. Duringthe first year of IFFI, when he was in power, on the principle ofif-they-don't-have-bread-let-them-eat-cake he converted the wholearea into a circus, causing massive traffic jams and making life aliving hell for the residents. Mr P Thomas added : One thing that could be added to this IFFI litany is the mucking up of drains along the arterial roads during the crash (no pun intended) job. This created havoc the following year when there was a heavier than normal monson. MP cooly washed his hands off of this by blaming the latter and the people of Panjim swallowed the line without demur! I concur with the view that MP may be afflicted by megalomania. At least he lacks an administrative sense of long term perspective badly needed in Goa and would not be suitable as a CM unless there are severe checks and balances on his headstrong actions. My comments : As I said , the days of flinging accusations at MP on Goanet without providing factual proof are long gone. I will answer some of the allegations above , which are entirely justified. The rest are indicative of a visceral hatred.May I please request the gentlemen above to select the questions which apply to their statements and provide me with facts to support their allegations. # The INOX cost 5 times the legitimate expenditure. Can we please have the financial figures to back this claim. Can we also have the figures on expenditures for IFFI 2005/2006/2007 and details of what the monies were spent on ( for comparison.) # IFFI 2004 made life a living hell for residents. What made life a living hell for residents ( besides traffic jams...which occur in Goan cities on a daily basis, and were clearly more likely to occur when an event of this scale was being organised in Goa for the first time ) ? # He wished IFFI on Goa for perpetuity Can you please provide evidence that MP forced successive governments to continue with IFFI.Also that successive governments made attempts to get IFFI moved out of Goa. # MP washed his hands off the flooding of Panjim in 2005 by blaming the unusually heavy monsoons Please provide factual data as to what MP said. Also provide evidence that the unusually heavy rains were not a contributory cause. # MP lacks an administrative sense of long term perspective Please provide the name of any other politician in Goa who has a better administrative sense of long term perspective ( with reasons why you feel so ). Lets get one thing very clear , my friends. I have no blind affiliation to MP. My blind affiliation is to Goa. I consider MP merely as the instrument most likely to help us in our task of getting the Goan ship back on even keel. I do not consider MP an angel or a messiah. His faults are aplenty. And I am prepared to admit these faults. But please, please, do not make baseless allegations about him . It makes one wonder as to the agenda of those making these allegations. warm regards, anand _ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim
To Goanet- Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: A few days ago I happened to be browsing through some of the writings of that unfailing fount of wisdom, Gautama Buddha. Jayam ve mannati balo, vaccaya pharusam bhanam; jayancevassa tam hoti, ya tittikkha vijanato. My turn to quote: The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose (that's the Bard of Avon). What are we in for next? A seminar on the virtues of burkha by Rakhi Sawant? Warm regards, r
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--- anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At present , the Goan people are struggling to find affordable housing , reasonably paid jobs...and in some cases their next meal . Work to solve these problems ,as Rajan is doing, rather than engage in MP and BJP bashing. --- I love the premature eulogizing of Rajan in this post. If a man like Gadgil has to take lessons about patriotism from the Parrikers of this world, we can look forward to another totalitarian state. I think doctors on this forum should refrain from prescribing economic solutions, which are not quite the same thing as prescribing aspirin for a headache. The economic sustenance of Goa will necessarily mean being open to other communities coming into Goa and setting up shop. We have to find ways to control this influx to the extent that it serves Goa's purposes, not works to its detriment. There are times when our raw emotions on this matter are evoked to the point of blind hatred of the Outsider, but we need an even tempered approach when dealing with this issue. selma You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)
Please provide the name of any other politician in Goa who has a better administrative sense of long term perspective ( with reasons why you feel so ). Dears, This MP to and fro stone throwing getting sicklier by the day. I think the best bet will be to wait it out for the next round of elections and see if MP, DK etc make it or not and then we shall talk about who will be Goa's CM. On the above line from Dr. Anand, my response is that none of the present-day or past (since 1961) politicians and political parties have or have had the long term administrative sense by virtue of spelling out 'good, transparent and satisfying administrative system that will be followed once elected to power to give the people the choice between various systems to be followed, indigenous to each politician and/or each political party. (we see this happening in the US of A with the ongoing primaries) Time has come for the people to demand such a spelt out system from all concerned and leave it to high winds the expectations over individual performances, however brilliant they might have been in the past, to perform in the interest of the people and the state. We have seen how the winds change directions once elected to the offices of power, best summarized by this age-old Konkani phrase ' ATAM MOJEM KAM ZALEM, TUKA MAR ZHOK'. [ I got what I wanted - may you now go to hell]. Let the people elected those who spell out the most likely 'administrative system' that is desired for Goa and who will aggressively standby its implementation as the prime responsibility and not play 'scrabble' once elected. We have had enough post-mortems on Scarlette Eden Keeling of late. Let us not have more on BJP, Congress or MP and DK etc to bore us to death. floriano goasuraj Original Message - From: anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today) Mr V Gadgil said : All that Manohar Parrikar DID for Panjim whenhe was in power was to indulge in his usual megalomania andbluster. He wanted to convert Goa into Singapore (which,incidentally, is a totalitarian police state). He dropped aturd called INOX on Panjim -- and did it at five times thelegitimate cost (where the rest of the money was channelled isanybody's guess). He wished IFFI on Panjim in perpetuity. Duringthe first year of IFFI, when he was in power, on the principle ofif-they-don't-have-bread-let-them-eat-cake he converted the wholearea into a circus, causing massive traffic jams and making life aliving hell for the residents. Mr P Thomas added : One thing that could be added to this IFFI litany is the mucking up of drains along the arterial roads during the crash (no pun intended) job. This created havoc the following year when there was a heavier than normal monson. MP cooly washed his hands off of this by blaming the latter and the people of Panjim swallowed the line without demur! I concur with the view that MP may be afflicted by megalomania. At least he lacks an administrative sense of long term perspective badly needed in Goa and would not be suitable as a CM unless there are severe checks and balances on his headstrong actions.
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Apologies in advance for a long mail, but Dr. Virgnicar has raised some very vital issues, and I have tried my best to address them. From: anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim You lived in UK during the rivers of blood days . I live here in a different time when the bigger problem is appeasement of the non-natives. Areas like Bradford have become no go areas for white people.The economic cake is being divided into smaller and smaller pieces. And the extreme right wing British National Party is finding increasing takers. My cousin, who currently lives in the UK, had a somewhat different tale to recount. She was telling me that with the ugly mood created by the so-called global war on terror, Asians in the UK find themselves targeted quite a lot. She told me she does not go out except in her car, for fear of racist harassment on the streets. But then, I realise different people have different experiences and it may be difficult to generalise. The BNP finding increasing takers I can well understand -- this is a well-established global trend at this point of time, with reactionary right-wing trends finding a receptive audience. It is no different right here in India and Goa, I assure you. Parts of Goa are becoming no go areas for Goan Hindu's, Goan Catholics and Goan Muslims.And the bite of the economic cake coming home in each Goan household is shrinking . This is terrible. Which are these areas? I would like to go and investigate for myself. Of course, as I have been recently been informed yet again on this very forum, I am just another ghati bhailo, so doubtless my experience may be different, with people like me presumably getting easy entree to such areas. But I will certainly speak to some of my Goan Hindu, Catholic and Muslim friends to go to these areas and figure out what is going on and report on the matter. I do agree with you, if this is happening, it is terrible, and we must act to prevent it happening. Do let me know. If you wish to make a real effort to combat communalism in Goa, tackle this core problem. Like Rajan is trying to. You are not going to do it by circulating fabricated documents which highlight only the role of the BJP in the Sanvordem-Curchorem riots ( while turning a Nelson's eye to the invasion of Goa by the madrassawallahs , as JC calls them ) I look forward to the circulation of documents reliably documenting what you mention. We must look into such serious matters; they are a concern for all citizens. You have never specified what your objections to these so-called fabricated documents are. You dismiss some of the comments in these reports as being hearsay, though it is mentioned who was heard to say these things, and they stand by those remarks. I stated in response to yours and JC's comments that I have no problem with this report. I have also supplied additional information from the government's magisterial enquiry report. I will endeavour to put that whole report on-line, but it is a massive document, and it takes some time to digitise it (I have to do this in between earning a living, which is a duty none of us can shirk, unfortunately). Do let me know specifically what you object to, and I will try to engage with your concerns. Of course, before we get into this, I once again direct your attention to the Goanet archives and Goan newspaper archives, where all these matters were thrashed out in detail. This will save us all the trouble of covering the same old ground, on which the views of various people (including myself) are readily available. Nor are you going to do so by getting the Puniyani's to vent their anti-BJP vitriol at meetings where the audience does not include a single Hindutva fanatic.I have heard him talk at Rajan Narayan's 60th birthday celebration and had to go home to stand under an ice cold shower to wash away the hatred against non-Hindu's that I felt for the first time in my life ( after listening to a man who was supposed to have been speaking on communal harmony ! ) I am glad you mention this. I am rather taken aback. I was in the audience at this lecture, and the audience appeared very appreciative. I spoke to a number of people -- Hindu, Catholic and Muslim -- afterwards and I did not get a single negative comment on the lecture. I am also surprised by your comment, because Dr. Ram Puniyani is a highly regarded public personality, and lectures extensively all over India. His column is syndicated in over a score of newspapers all over the country, in at least four languages. In Goa, the Goan Observer carries his weekly column, and Tarun Bharat and other Marathi newspapers also carry his articles from time to time. He was recently awarded the Indira Gandhi award for national integration, along with Prof. J.S. Bandukwalla. I mention this just to put in context my surprise at your reaction to his talk
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Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: My turn to quote: The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose (that's the Bard of Avon). What are we in for next? A seminar on the virtues of burkha by Rakhi Sawant? r, Since you bring up the devil, how about this quote? These scum should be kicked out of Goa. For these chaps, the applicable point concerning the law is: you are guilty until proven guilty. Now get lost. In case you cannot recollect who said the above, it is a direct quote from you. I am amazed that anyone would even bother to debate you after such a gem. Mervyn3.0 __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar is not CM today)
To Goanet - Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: As usual, when you don't have anything really meaningful to say, the strategy is clear -- engage in invective, ridicule, labelling and ad hominem attacks. Let's clarify this a bit: I rubbish the Comrade's piffle and he cries foul about my manner. When Dr. Virgincar makes his case in the most courteous manner possible, he declaims it as a whitewash. Only the Marxists can attempt this - point fingers at others for doing something they themselves habitually practice. Months ago, when I first talked on Goanet about the corrosive ghati menace in Panjim (and Goa), Gadgil sauntered in peddling his obscurantist apologia. In the months since, the mythology he had imagined for the ghati hordes has been decisively busted. So what does he do now? Why, look to slay the familiar bugbear Manohar Parrikar, of course. Ghatis swamp Panjim, defecate urinate on the footpaths, encroach squat on pavements, and while all this is happening the CCP goes AWOL. According to Gadgil, it's Manohar Parrikar's fault that the CCP is not doing its job. Someone has a bout of indigestion - target Parrikar. The high humidity right now - oh, Parrikar is to blame. But all this is beside the point. The provenance of the latest round of whingeing is generally known to those who know the ways of the Indian Marxists. It is the realization that the days of unfettered and unchallenged shoveling of sludge about Hindus, Hindu politics and communalism (by which he means Hindu communalism) on Goanet are numbered. That Goan Hindus like I are not going to play possum. The anti-Hindu Marxist brigade had calculated - correctly - that it takes only a few chosen keywords such as RSS, Modi, Hindutva, with an arrow pointing towards BJP, to stoke Catholic anxiety and incite minority fears. This patronising bhailo, cleverly pressing his Hindu name to advantage, posturing as the conscientious self-critical Hindu, knew he would find an appreciative Catholic audience nodding agreeably at his caricature and demonization of the Hindu Right. All was going well until this pesky Parrikar fellow, who had been away from Goa, showed up and turned into a party-pooper. That's all there is to this Marxist tiatr. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim
From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar is not CM today) Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: As usual, when you don't have anything really meaningful to say, the strategy is clear -- engage in invective, ridicule, labelling and ad hominem attacks. Let's clarify this a bit: I rubbish the Comrade's piffle and he cries foul about my manner. When Dr. Virgincar makes his case in the most courteous manner possible, he declaims it as a whitewash. Only the Marxists can attempt this - point fingers at others for doing something they themselves habitually practice. Rajan Parrikar and I have been taking issue with each other on various subjects on this forum for many months now. In all this period, I have been at pains not to use foul, abusive language, to avoid communal talk and stereotyping, to avoid labelling, etc., while continuing to make my points, about which I feel strongly. Whether I have succeeded or not I leave to the members of this forum to judge. Mr. Parrikar, on the other hand, does not appear to be bound by any such rules of elementary courtesy. He appears pathologically incapable of making even a single post without seeking to denigrate, humiliate, abuse, belittle, mock, or ridicule somebody or the other. Often, rather than restrict his broadsides to any one person, he targets entire communities, probably on the principle of wholesale being better than retail. You know, one can make quite scathing critiques without stooping to such levels. One can make very strong, trenchant points without being communal and engaging in name-calling. Make strong social and political points by all means, but what is achieved by the kind of invective and bile that Mr. Parrikar seems to specialize in whenever he posts? Months ago, when I first talked on Goanet about the corrosive ghati menace in Panjim (and Goa), Gadgil sauntered in peddling his obscurantist apologia. In the months since, the mythology he had imagined for the ghati hordes has been decisively busted. So what does he do now? As to the whole issue of migrants, let me state my position once again. I have never denied that uncontrolled influxes of migrants into any place creates problems, you can re-read my various articles for verification of this. I grew up in Pune when it was a fantastic place; seeing what it has become now makes me want to weep. But the whole issue has to be approached in a rational manner. As I (and far better people than me) have repeatedly stated, there needs to be a just, transparent, pro-people development policy to tackle the problem. Irrational name-calling and branding of entire communities is not helpful in this regard. It only excites base passions and leads to the communalization, polarization, and fragmentation of society, without providing any meaningful answers. There is something within me that rebels against targeting poor, struggling people, who are just trying to survive in extremely difficult circumstances. If that makes me a bleeding-heart 'obscurantist', so be it. Let me illustrate what I mean, by introducing a personal note. I spent a few years of my childhood in the UK. That was the heyday of Enoch Powell and the BNP and their anti-migrant rhetoric (does anybody here remember all that rivers of blood stuff?). My father was part of the academic community, and we lived in an all-white neighbourhood and I attended an all-white school. The British are pretty nice people overall (like most people all over the world), but the mood created by Powell led to a situation where the nicest word I was called in school was 'wog', and I was beaten up on a daily basis in the schoolyard for the sin of being Asian. The UK has moved on since then, and is now trying to tackle the issue in a more rational manner. But the legacy of Enoch Powell is still alive and kicking, as anybody who lives in the UK will testify. And that is what I do not want to see happening in Goa, where I now live. Powell solved no problems, only created many, many more. He did irreparable, long-lasting damage to the social atmosphere in the UK. Certainly let us tackle the issue of migration. But let us do so in a rational manner -- not engage in inflammatory, communal talk and xenophobia. It is a slippery slope once you decide to take that path. But all this is beside the point. The provenance of the latest round of whingeing is generally known to those who know the ways of the Indian Marxists. It is the realization that the days of unfettered and unchallenged shoveling of sludge about Hindus, Hindu politics and communalism (by which he means Hindu communalism) on Goanet are numbered. That Goan Hindus like I are not going to play possum. Again, I leave this forum to judge who is whingeing here. I try to make my arguments on the basis of facts and figures. That is conspicuous by its absence in Mr. Parrikar's posts. All we have is the same old
Re: [Goanet] MP and Panjim (was Why Manohar Parrikar is not CM today)
You know, given all this, I think I will withdraw my request thatParrikar actually do something for his constituency. It is betterthat he continues to do nothing rather than put in a performancelike that again.[ Vidyadhar Gadgil ]I wholeheartedly second this idea. If possible MP should renounce his Panjim seat and stand for some other place where he can do least harm and carry on as leader of the opposition.[ Philip Thomas ] My comments are specifically directed to Bab Philip ( whose views on the aviation industry in Goa are thought provoking and for whom I have a lot of respect for his obvious deep knowledge of that matter ) Can Mr P Thomas please give reasons why he agrees with Mr Gadgil ? He should note : # The days when one Manohar Parrikar hater made a comment berating MP ( without providing any factual support ) and there was a chorus of agreement from others with the same partisan mentality . with no meaningful challenge from other posters on this forum ( apart from the viva viva MP posters who again provided no factual data as to why they support MP ) ARE LONG GONE. # What we have now is individuals who are presenting a case as to why MP should be in charge of Goa. These individuals are backing their case with facts. They are also not afraid to admit to his faults.They are even open to other solutions for Goa's ills ( which do not include any role for MP ) provided the persons forwarding these solutions are prepared to demonstrate their feasibilty. # So wake up , Bab Philip , to the new Goanet boat ( at least as far as political discussions go on this forum ). As Bosco pointed out to me ( and rightly so ) , I was at a risk of sinking my boat by digressing from my core agenda and engaging in meaningless rants. SO ARE YOU. warm regards, anand _ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com
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To Goanet - What's this, Comrade Einstein, a devastating comeback or what? Of course, the MLA of Panjim is the very first fellow I took my case to. What's more, I found out that he was already seized with the issues. As usual, when you don't have anything really meaningful to say, the strategy is clear -- engage in invective, ridicule, labelling and ad hominem attacks. All this does not obscure the bottom line of your response -- which is that MP has done absolutely nothing to tackle these problems. When one is out of power one's options are very limited, even more so when the slate of CCP corporators is also controlled by the other side. It is generally known that the BJP has a lot of power and influence within the CCP. Even assuming that it is controlled solely by Babush, Manohar Parrikar keeps hopping in and out of bed with Babush every few months when his desperation for the CM's chair becomes too intense to resist. Next time he's all cosy with Babush, do find out if he can spare some time from his machinations to topple the government and find a few moments to do something for Panjim. When Manohar Parrikar was in power he DID show how Panjim could be managed. This is really rich. All that Manohar Parrikar DID for Panjim when he was in power was to indulge in his usual megalomania and bluster. He wanted to convert Goa into Singapore (which, incidentally, is a totalitarian police state). He dropped a turd called INOX on Panjim -- and did it at five times the legitimate cost (where the rest of the money was channelled is anybody's guess). He wished IFFI on Panjim in perpetuity. During the first year of IFFI, when he was in power, on the principle of if-they-don't-have-bread-let-them-eat-cake he converted the whole area into a circus, causing massive traffic jams and making life a living hell for the residents. The garbage problem continued during his reign. He unveiled the grandiose CCP plan which met with vociferous opposition. So he implemented a truncated version, which has only increased the costs without any attendant benefit over the earlier municipal model. It was as a result of some mysterious plan he had that the municipal garden was dug up and destroyed. Mala and Fontainhas vandalism took place. Oh yes, not to forget, when he was in power he anointed Babush the TCP minister, enabling him to dream up and implement plans for the destruction not only of Panjim but of the whole of Goa. You know, given all this, I think I will withdraw my request that Parrikar actually do something for his constituency. It is better that he continues to do nothing rather than put in a performance like that again. Parrikar has been trying to resolve the garbage issue for weeks and has worked the ministers and authorities concerned (the issue was brought up during this Assembly session) but this is a non-functioning Digambar Kamat administration. This is not merely my view - this view has been expressed time and again by the Justices in the High Court over the past few months IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CASES! Has Comrade been in coma all this time? Yes, we have noticed. Unfortunately you don't seem to have noticed that this is very much a continuity in Goan governance, the Parrikar regime included. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that Panjim/Goa has been on a steady decline all the time except for when the great man was in power? Do you believe it yourself? If you do, you need to examine exactly who is in a coma. Finally - regardless of the political cast at the helm, I would urge the citizens to remain actively involved. This must be a novel idea to the Comrade, citizen participation and all. While your efforts with the writ petition are laudable, it ill behoves someone who has just returned to Goa after a long absence to go around mocking and ridiculing others. In any case, such pissing matches are very tedious, and I leave you to play them all by yourself. -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
